Re: CRON and infections (Was: How Low Can You Go?)

[Guest guest]

SUZ wrote:

" Speaking of SARs...the SARs virus has me entirely rethinking the

wisdom of calorie restriction. It would be interesting to see how

CRONed immune systems react to such an infection. Do you suppose

CRONies would fare better or worse than the general population when

exposed to SARs? "

Tom wrote:

" PS: As for proof, who on these various boards is really qualified to

judge the quality and results of the large numbers of studies

reported on a daily basis? My answer would be: very few, if any. So

tell me, why do you practice CRON? I guess you must have found

absolute proof somewhere that it applies to humans, as well as to

rats and monkeys. "

I wonder how many (pampered?) lab mice, rats, monkeys were

deliberately exposed to various pathogens to test for AL vs. CR

survivability???

Anyone know of the research?

Just to enter the labs with the CR monkey studies I believe one is

required to wear surgical/bio masks, so I doubt there is much

deliberate disease exposure in CR science studies???

Considering we, the human race, are likely to face a REAL

bioterrorist attack OR a mutated (natural occurrence) resistant

bacteria/virus during our lifetime, which overcomes most natural body

defenses or external medication/vaccine defenses, what additional

threat might this pose for a CRONIE? (Thanks Suz!) More body fat

(reserve energy) might be the best life extension advantage in such

circumstances?

ARE WE JUST FOOLING OURSELVES ROLLING THE STERILIZED DICE WITH

PAMPERED LAB ANIMAL REFERENCE SUBJECTS LIVING IN CONTROLLED UNREAL

NON-BIOTHREAT LAB ENVIRONMENTS? HOW DO WE REFERENCE THIS LAB SCIENCE

TO THE REAL WORLD LIFE OF LIVING IN OUR UNCONTROLLED, UNLAB, " SARS

BIOTHREAT " ENVIRONMENTS???

Best, deVries

[Guest guest]

I believe SARS has a lower mortality rate than the flu... I have a family

member who works in infectious disease control, and his opinion is that like

the flu, SARS is primarily a concern for the elderly, already ill, and so

forth. It's also not a wasting disease, so I should think that being fit,

healthy, and with a good immune system (all characteristics of CRONies, in

general) would all be 'good' things.

If you're all that worried, avoid hospitals where infections have appeared

and wash your hands. As for the other big culprits in infectious disease,

stay away from IV drug use, practice safe sex, and wash your hands...

People are still more likely to die of heart disease than SARS, and malaria

kills more people than AIDS, so sometimes I think we are bad at prioritising

our fears (and TV doesn't help that).

Cheers,

> -----Original Message-----

> From: numicucamonga [mailto:dean2u@...]

> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:20 AM

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> Subject: [ ] Re: CRON and infections (Was: How Low Can You

> Go?)

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> SUZ wrote:

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> " Speaking of SARs...the SARs virus has me entirely rethinking the

> wisdom of calorie restriction. It would be interesting to see how

> CRONed immune systems react to such an infection. Do you suppose

> CRONies would fare better or worse than the general population when

> exposed to SARs? "

>

> Tom wrote:

>

> " PS: As for proof, who on these various boards is really qualified to

> judge the quality and results of the large numbers of studies

> reported on a daily basis? My answer would be: very few, if any. So

> tell me, why do you practice CRON? I guess you must have found

> absolute proof somewhere that it applies to humans, as well as to

> rats and monkeys. "

>

> I wonder how many (pampered?) lab mice, rats, monkeys were

> deliberately exposed to various pathogens to test for AL vs. CR

> survivability???

>

> Anyone know of the research?

>

> Just to enter the labs with the CR monkey studies I believe one is

> required to wear surgical/bio masks, so I doubt there is much

> deliberate disease exposure in CR science studies???

>

> Considering we, the human race, are likely to face a REAL

> bioterrorist attack OR a mutated (natural occurrence) resistant

> bacteria/virus during our lifetime, which overcomes most natural body

> defenses or external medication/vaccine defenses, what additional

> threat might this pose for a CRONIE? (Thanks Suz!) More body fat

> (reserve energy) might be the best life extension advantage in such

> circumstances?

>

> ARE WE JUST FOOLING OURSELVES ROLLING THE STERILIZED DICE WITH

> PAMPERED LAB ANIMAL REFERENCE SUBJECTS LIVING IN CONTROLLED UNREAL

> NON-BIOTHREAT LAB ENVIRONMENTS? HOW DO WE REFERENCE THIS LAB SCIENCE

> TO THE REAL WORLD LIFE OF LIVING IN OUR UNCONTROLLED, UNLAB, " SARS

> BIOTHREAT " ENVIRONMENTS???

>

> Best, deVries

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