milk (was Re: Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon)

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I read the first link. Very scary. However Dr. Kradjian doesn't cite the

sources of any of the actual studies he alludes to (the abstracts or

scientific journals). Anyone can say anything they want on the web (and

they often do). For all we know he's head of a soymilk company and is

trying to drum up business!. So if you have ACTUAL scientific studies by

reputable scientists, by all means please post.

on 8/16/2003 7:52 AM, Dowling at dowlic@... wrote:

> Yeah, I'll have to check it out. Meanwhile, I'm still avoiding milk. Some

> more food for thought links below:

>

> http://www.notmilk.com/kradjian.html

>

> http://www.notmilk.com/

>

>

>> From: " paultheo2000 " <paultheo2000@...>

>> Reply-

>>

>> Subject: [ ] Re: Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon

>> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:04:24 -0000

>>

>> I'm afraid I can't tell you what enzymes, but I suggest you read

>> Fallon's book...it's a good read.

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>>>>>>>>> Ultrapasturized milk may be the really healthy way to go:

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>>>>>>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/08/08/Consumers/Crohns_030808

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>>>>>>>>>> From: " Mark S " <senorsuave@h...>

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[Guest guest]

> I read the first link. Very scary. However Dr. Kradjian doesn't

> cite the sources of any of the actual studies he alludes to (the

> abstracts or scientific journals). Anyone can say anything they

> want on the web (and they often do). For all we know he's head of

> a soymilk company and is trying to drum up business!. So if you

> have ACTUAL scientific studies by reputable scientists, by all

> means please post.

*****Yes, this is a MAJOR concern of mine. Not only can " anyone say

anything they want on the web " ... they can say it in non-internet

print as well. The distortions and misinterpretations are rife.

Sometimes they are well-meaning; other times they are calculated.

For some unbiased insight into how " scientific " myths get created and

spread, I STRONGLY encourage anyone interested in this to read

Kolata's recent book, " Ultimate Fitness: The Quest for Truth About

Exercise and Fitness. " The author is a writer for the New York Times

and the entire book debunks many of the myths that are prevalent in

both exercise and nutrition.

Further, she demonstrates, by doing a LOT of legwork, research,

calling, recalling, checking sources, back-checking, etc., how myths

arise and get disseminated.

Having read the book I look at much " published " stuff - even that

within " respected journals " - with something of a jaundiced eye now.

And I have come to no longer expect certainty in most areas of

science.

~andy