Re: trans fat labeling in the news

[Guest guest]

Thanks. Can I ask, I know it's not the healthiest, but I love tortilla chips with salsa once in a while. My very fav salsa has no sugar in it, of course, but I've been looking for healthy tortilla chips that don't cost a fortune. I found some "Blue Farm" ones that list as the ingredients: "Organically grown blue corn cooked in water with a trace of lime, safflower oil, and sea salt"

Can I assume that since there is no "hydrogenated" oils that these are trans fat free, or no?

TIA,Jody

[Guest guest]

Yes you can. I believe these are available in health food stores (not that

everything in health food stores is necessarily healthy). However watch the

calories in too many of those chips but the salza is a great CRONIE food.

on 11/12/2003 8:01 PM, Jody Mack at jdmac@... wrote:

> Thanks. Can I ask, I know it's not the healthiest, but I love tortilla chips

> with salsa once in a while. My very fav salsa has no sugar in it, of course,

> but I've been looking for healthy tortilla chips that don't cost a fortune. I

> found some " Blue Farm " ones that list as the ingredients: " Organically grown

> blue corn cooked in water with a trace of lime, safflower oil, and sea salt "

>

> Can I assume that since there is no " hydrogenated " oils that these are trans

> fat free, or no?

>

> TIA,

> Jody

>

[Guest guest]

Kroger sells kroger brand tort chips cooked in soy oil. Also lower sodium.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jody Mack

Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:01 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] trans fat labeling in the news

Thanks. Can I ask, I know it's not the healthiest, but I love tortilla chips with salsa once in a while. My very fav salsa has no sugar in it, of course, but I've been looking for healthy tortilla chips that don't cost a fortune. I found some "Blue Farm" ones that list as the ingredients: "Organically grown blue corn cooked in water with a trace of lime, safflower oil, and sea salt"

Can I assume that since there is no "hydrogenated" oils that these are trans fat free, or no?

TIA,Jody

[Guest guest]

Regarding tortilla chips and salsa ............. look out for "

*** BAKED *** Tostitos " . Their fat content is WAY less than the

regular Tostitos and they taste almost as good.

Of course they are baked, instead of deep fried in, no-doubt-

dreadful, fat in the case of the regular Tostitos.

Rodney.

--- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...>

wrote:

> Kroger sells kroger brand tort chips cooked in soy oil. Also lower

sodium.

>

> Regards.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Jody Mack

>

> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:01 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] trans fat labeling in the news

>

>

> Thanks. Can I ask, I know it's not the healthiest, but I love

tortilla chips with salsa once in a while. My very fav salsa has no

sugar in it, of course, but I've been looking for healthy tortilla

chips that don't cost a fortune. I found some " Blue Farm " ones that

list as the ingredients: " Organically grown blue corn cooked in water

with a trace of lime, safflower oil, and sea salt "

>

> Can I assume that since there is no " hydrogenated " oils that

these are trans fat free, or no?

>

> TIA,

> Jody

[Guest guest]

Bear in mind that several studies indicate a link between consumption

of 'alpha-linolenic acid' and prostate cancer (source: Physicians

Health Study). The more of it, the more cancer. Soybean oil and

canola oil both contain considerable quantities of it. Safflower oil

contians hardly any.

Against this it can be argued that the japanese who eat a fair amount

of soy have a remarkably low level of prostate cancer - so the jury

is out on this one. But I do not think it is likely that there is

harm in avoiding those two oils. Just my opinion.

Rodney.

--- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...>

wrote:

> Kroger sells kroger brand tort chips cooked in soy oil. Also lower

sodium.

>

> Regards.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Jody Mack

>

> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:01 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] trans fat labeling in the news

>

>

> Thanks. Can I ask, I know it's not the healthiest, but I love

tortilla chips with salsa once in a while. My very fav salsa has no

sugar in it, of course, but I've been looking for healthy tortilla

chips that don't cost a fortune. I found some " Blue Farm " ones that

list as the ingredients: " Organically grown blue corn cooked in water

with a trace of lime, safflower oil, and sea salt "

>

> Can I assume that since there is no " hydrogenated " oils that

these are trans fat free, or no?

>

> TIA,

> Jody

[Guest guest]

It's the only fat added I eat, Rodney.

Temper those test data with a 20% fat diet diet. 'alpha-linolenic acid' IS an Ess fatty acid. Eating safflower oil is nonsense - don't eat any oil you don't need.

Except olive oil - I LIKE olive oil(pesto) and avocadoes.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rodney

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:25 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: trans fat labeling in the news

Bear in mind that several studies indicate a link between consumption of 'alpha-linolenic acid' and prostate cancer (source: Physicians Health Study). The more of it, the more cancer. Soybean oil and canola oil both contain considerable quantities of it. Safflower oil contians hardly any.Against this it can be argued that the japanese who eat a fair amount of soy have a remarkably low level of prostate cancer - so the jury is out on this one. But I do not think it is likely that there is harm in avoiding those two oils. Just my opinion.Rodney.

[Guest guest]

I ate baked tostitos once. Then I had to ask why?

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rodney

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:20 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: trans fat labeling in the news

Regarding tortilla chips and salsa ............. look out for " *** BAKED *** Tostitos". Their fat content is WAY less than the regular Tostitos and they taste almost as good.Of course they are baked, instead of deep fried in, no-doubt-dreadful, fat in the case of the regular Tostitos.Rodney.> Kroger sells kroger brand tort chips cooked in soy oil. Also lower sodium. > > Regards.

[Guest guest]

Hi JW:

I estimate that for the past thirty years my diet has had between 15%

and 20% of its calories from fat. However, while I have been warned

to prevent my LDL from getting any lower, my HDL is low too. The

Nurses Health Study (Willett - Healthy Women, Healthy Lives)

suggests that polyunsaturated oils may (apparently do in women) raise

HDL without raising LDL. So I am currently experimenting with that

by adding some of the polyunsaturated oil that contains the smallest

amount of alpha-linolenic acid. And that happens to be safflower oil.

It remains to be seen if it raises my HDL materially.

As for the Baked Tostitos, I was rsponding to someone who was eating

the full fat variety of corn chips. It seems to me that if you are

going to be eating them, the baked variety is likely to be far

healthier.

Rodney.

--- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...>

wrote:

> It's the only fat added I eat, Rodney.

> Temper those test data with a 20% fat diet diet. 'alpha-linolenic

acid' IS an Ess fatty acid. Eating safflower oil is nonsense - don't

eat any oil you don't need.

> Except olive oil - I LIKE olive oil(pesto) and avocadoes.

>

> Regards.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Rodney

>

> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:25 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: trans fat labeling in the news

>

>

> Bear in mind that several studies indicate a link between

consumption

> of 'alpha-linolenic acid' and prostate cancer (source:

Physicians

> Health Study). The more of it, the more cancer. Soybean oil and

> canola oil both contain considerable quantities of it. Safflower

oil

> contians hardly any.

>

> Against this it can be argued that the japanese who eat a fair

amount

> of soy have a remarkably low level of prostate cancer - so the

jury

> is out on this one. But I do not think it is likely that there

is

> harm in avoiding those two oils. Just my opinion.

>

> Rodney.

[Guest guest]

The way I figure it is I want the least oil calories for the EFA alpha-linolenic acid. I like the nurses study of 1.1 gms of linolenic(18:3). One tbls of soy is about right for the EFA. 0.57 oz of soy provides 0.61 of 18:0, 3.7 18:1, 8.25 18:2, and 1.1 18:3.

It takes 9.7 oz of safflower oil to provide 6.05 18:0, 32.2 18:1, 203.8 18:2 (also a poly), and 1.1 18:3. Obviously I won't use saff oil (~2800 kcals) for EFA ALA.

Walnut and wheat germ oil are a little better than soy - calories per gm of ALA. BTW, 1 oz of the corn chips have 7 gms of soy oil. Flax oil provides more ALA with less calories but I think no one fries in it. And I don't eat fish.

If I eat extra oil, it will be olive, not saff.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rodney

Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 1:32 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: trans fat labeling in the news

Hi JW:I estimate that for the past thirty years my diet has had between 15% and 20% of its calories from fat. However, while I have been warned to prevent my LDL from getting any lower, my HDL is low too. The Nurses Health Study (Willett - Healthy Women, Healthy Lives) suggests that polyunsaturated oils may (apparently do in women) raise HDL without raising LDL. So I am currently experimenting with that by adding some of the polyunsaturated oil that contains the smallest amount of alpha-linolenic acid. And that happens to be safflower oil.It remains to be seen if it raises my HDL materially.As for the Baked Tostitos, I was rsponding to someone who was eating the full fat variety of corn chips. It seems to me that if you are going to be eating them, the baked variety is likely to be far healthier.Rodney.> It's the only fat added I eat, Rodney.> Temper those test data with a 20% fat diet diet. 'alpha-linolenic acid' IS an Ess fatty acid. Eating safflower oil is nonsense - don't eat any oil you don't need. > Except olive oil - I LIKE olive oil(pesto) and avocadoes. > > Regards.