Guest guest Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Michele: this is far from a typical CRON diet. If you haven't read Walford, take a look at the files which describe the kinds of foods CRONIES eat. What about green salads? They're practically a must for a CRONIE. Aside from your one apple, you don't have any other fresh veggies or fruits in your diet. Have you tried eating a bigger breakfast and a smaller dinner e.g. switching around when you eat the most calories? That works for some people. Have you tried any exercise? Also I would highly recommend reading Walford's book and coming to your own conclusions about how to change your diet. Also, although this is what you ate today, I would suggest writing down everything you eat for at least one week. It could be you're " snacking " (those cloud cookies are delicious!) and not realizing it. Happens to the best of us. on 10/23/2003 9:09 PM, Michele Pitonyak at map1@... wrote: > What I ate today is typical for me. > breakfast 11 am 1 large apple and a 20 oz mug instant coffee (1/2 decaf 1/2 > regular) and 1/2 cup 1%milk. > lunch 1:30 pm 3 oz piece of breaded ocean perch cooked in microwave. > Dinner 6pm 2 cups beef and veggie broth with mushrooms. A 6oz (raw weight) > Yukon gold potato cooked in microwave then topped with sauerkraut (about 1/2 > cup) and 2 tablespoons potato topping (cottage cheese and yogurt creamed > together...tastes like sour cream) and a 5 oz stuffed pepper that my grandma > made. I will have another 1/2 cup of milk with my tea tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Francesca, I said nothing about my diet being ON...I didn't even say it was CR. What I said was it only takes 1000 cal per day to maintain me as I am and I would have to go lower to actually be calorie restricted. But I am new at this so I may be misunderstanding the ideas here. What I was trying to say is that the 1000 cal may be CR for most people but I would have to go lower and I don't know if I want to do that. I don't usually have a tendancy to snack unless i am over grandmas. Gram always has cookies, one of my weaknesses. There is an unopened bag of pretzels on top of the fridge that have been there for at least 6 months. But I do have a tendancy to binge when I get a taste for a particular food. Most unnoticed calories sneek into my diet in beverages. As far as excercize goes...I wish I could. My joints are all disintegrating. I would love to take my dog for a walk. I am scheduled for arthroscopic surgery next Tuesday to clean out the loose chunks and file the rough spots to try and get me through a few more months. I don't even train him for obedience anymore because I am so unstable on uneven surfaces that almost fell on him this past spring. Michele & the Fur Kids Conneaut, Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: " Francesca Skelton " <fskelton@...> < > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [ ] CRON foods to eat > Michele: this is far from a typical CRON diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Hi Michele: I hope you'll pardon my misunderstanding you. I still think it might be worthwhile trying CRON, adding fresh veggies/fruits to your diet and moving more of the calories to the start of your day. What do you have to lose? I would toss the pretzels and any other temptations that are empty calories hanging around your house. For beverages, Warren's fruit punch, and or lemonade or limade sweetened with splenda are delicious. Good luck with the surgery! Please take my suggestions as a sincere desire to help. on 10/23/2003 10:22 PM, Michele Pitonyak at map1@... wrote: > Francesca, > I said nothing about my diet being ON...I didn't even say it was CR. What I > said was it only takes 1000 cal per day to maintain me as I am and I would > have to go lower to actually be calorie restricted. But I am new at this so > I may be misunderstanding the ideas here. > What I was trying to say is that the 1000 cal may be CR for most people but > I would have to go lower and I don't know if I want to do that. > I don't usually have a tendancy to snack unless i am over grandmas. Gram > always has cookies, one of my weaknesses. There is an unopened bag of > pretzels on top of the fridge that have been there for at least 6 months. > But I do have a tendancy to binge when I get a taste for a particular food. > Most unnoticed calories sneek into my diet in beverages. > As far as excercize goes...I wish I could. My joints are all disintegrating. > I would love to take my dog for a walk. > I am scheduled for arthroscopic surgery next Tuesday to clean out the loose > chunks and file the rough spots to try and get me through a few more months. > I don't even train him for obedience anymore because I am so unstable on > uneven surfaces that almost fell on him this past spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 I can't find Warens fruit punch recipe in the files. Could you please post it. If I remember right it was a small amount of frozen juice concentrate a quart of water and sweetner to taste, but I cant remember the exact portions. Also, I was wondering if there is a difference between the frozen juice concentrates and the nonfrozen concentrates. I was going to save the pretzals for the birds this winter. Michele & the Fur Kids Conneaut, Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: " Francesca Skelton " <fskelton@...> < > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [ ] CRON foods to eat > Hi Michele: I hope you'll pardon my misunderstanding you. I still think > it might be worthwhile trying CRON, adding fresh veggies/fruits to your diet > and moving more of the calories to the start of your day. What do you have > to lose? I would toss the pretzels and any other temptations that are empty > calories hanging around your house. For beverages, Warren's fruit punch, > and or lemonade or limade sweetened with splenda are delicious. > > Good luck with the surgery! > > Please take my suggestions as a sincere desire to help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Hi Michele: There certainly are many reports where people say even if they eat very small amounts of calories they still are unable to lose weight. This is difficult to understand from a calories in/calories out analysis. But if it is true, then it seems that once an individual exceeds a certain weight threshold something in the body changes its 'thermostat' (to take a poor analogy) so that thereafter losing weight becomes very very difficult. SO, if this is the way things are it really points out the importance for people to NEVER get anywhere near that weight threshold, wherever it is, if it exists. In other words major, perhaps life long, problems will result if weight is even once permitted to get out of control. Perhaps kids should be taught this. The other point I would make on this is that I have seen how even VERY nutrition-conscious parents are unable to recognize it when one of their kids becomes grossly over weight (presumably because it creeps up on them very gradually). I know because it happened in my family. The parents were in disbelief when I told them that one of their kids (only one of the two) was GROSSLY overweight. But they took notice and fixed the problem, and years later when looking at photos of the kid from that period remarked that they are dumbfounded that they couldn't see it at the time. The lesson from that, in my opinion, is that people should perhaps be less sheepish about informing their friends if they consider a kid to be over weight. Difficult to do tactfully, though. Rodney. --- In , " Michele Pitonyak " <map1@s...> wrote: > > Francesca, > I said nothing about my diet being ON...I didn't even say it was CR. What I > said was it only takes 1000 cal per day to maintain me as I am and I would > have to go lower to actually be calorie restricted. But I am new at this so > I may be misunderstanding the ideas here. > What I was trying to say is that the 1000 cal may be CR for most people but > I would have to go lower and I don't know if I want to do that. > I don't usually have a tendancy to snack unless i am over grandmas. Gram > always has cookies, one of my weaknesses. There is an unopened bag of > pretzels on top of the fridge that have been there for at least 6 months. > But I do have a tendancy to binge when I get a taste for a particular food. > Most unnoticed calories sneek into my diet in beverages. > As far as excercize goes...I wish I could. My joints are all disintegrating. > I would love to take my dog for a walk. > I am scheduled for arthroscopic surgery next Tuesday to clean out the loose > chunks and file the rough spots to try and get me through a few more months. > I don't even train him for obedience anymore because I am so unstable on > uneven surfaces that almost fell on him this past spring. > > Michele & the Fur Kids > Conneaut, Ohio > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Francesca Skelton " <fskelton@e...> > < > > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:38 PM > Subject: Re: [ ] CRON foods to eat > > > > Michele: this is far from a typical CRON diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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