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I had a similar experience when taking part in a bridge group in which snacks

were put on all the tables. The other women were conveyor belt eaters but

had no conscious knowledge that they were eating continuously. In fact the

subject was discussed, and the nibblers were shocked when others pointed out

to

them their habit! When it was my turn to host, I never put out a thing, and

I don't think anyone even noticed. Peg

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Last weekend we had a dinner out and were joined by another couple who are

good friends. We ate until satisfied (all four of us) and there was also

plenty of food left over to bring home in " doggy " bags (yes, this list is

going to the dogs :-). We sat around to chat with each other for a while

after we had finished

As we sat around talking, I couldn't help but notice that one of our friends

kept continually picking at his leftovers. This happened continuously for

the hour or so that we sat talking until he had almost finished his

leftovers. No doubt even though he was full, he just continued eating

simply because the food was " there " .

So the moral is: know what and how much you're eating. If you have to

write everything (with the number of calories) down on paper for a while (I

did this for about 3 months when I started on CRON), then do that. After a

while you probably will no longer need to keep such constant track of what

you're eating or not eating :-)

BTW, our friend is quite overweight. If he just stopped his " mindless "

eating, I bet he'd be more fit.

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Hello CR ALL:

This has got to be one of the BEST posts for succeeding at CR

that I have ever read. Understand and do what is below, and

you will save yourself tens of thousands of calories.

Plus you will save yourself much grief besides.

-- Warren

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-----Original Message-----

From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:41 AM

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Subject: [ ] " mindless " eating

Last weekend we had a dinner out and were joined by another couple who are

good friends. We ate until satisfied (all four of us) and there was also

plenty of food left over to bring home in " doggy " bags (yes, this list is

going to the dogs :-). We sat around to chat with each other for a while

after we had finished

As we sat around talking, I couldn't help but notice that one of our friends

kept continually picking at his leftovers. This happened continuously for

the hour or so that we sat talking until he had almost finished his

leftovers. No doubt even though he was full, he just continued eating

simply because the food was " there " .

So the moral is: know what and how much you're eating. If you have to

write everything (with the number of calories) down on paper for a while

(I did this for about 3 months when I started on CRON), then do that.

After a while, you probably will no longer need to keep such constant track

of what you're eating or not eating :-)

BTW, our friend is quite overweight. If he just stopped his " mindless "

eating, I bet he'd be more fit.

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This reminds me of my Buddhist friend's " eating meditation " practice.

To my understanding, it's the practice of bringing as much awareness

as possible to each moment of the eating experience: biting, tasting,

chewing, consciousness, etc. I think it's the ultimate way to find

satisfaction in what little food cronies consume, with the possible

side effect of enlightenment. :)

Cheers,

Vegan_

> Hello CR ALL:

>

> This has got to be one of the BEST posts for succeeding at CR

> that I have ever read. Understand and do what is below, and

> you will save yourself tens of thousands of calories.

> Plus you will save yourself much grief besides.

>

> -- Warren

>

> =================================== ===============================

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@e...]

> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:41 AM

> support group

> Subject: [ ] " mindless " eating

>

> Last weekend we had a dinner out and were joined by another couple

who are

> good friends. We ate until satisfied (all four of us) and there

was also

> plenty of food left over to bring home in " doggy " bags (yes, this

list is

> going to the dogs :-). We sat around to chat with each other for a

while

> after we had finished

>

> As we sat around talking, I couldn't help but notice that one of

our friends

> kept continually picking at his leftovers. This happened

continuously for

> the hour or so that we sat talking until he had almost finished his

> leftovers. No doubt even though he was full, he just continued

eating

> simply because the food was " there " .

>

> So the moral is: know what and how much you're eating. If you

have to

> write everything (with the number of calories) down on paper for a

while

> (I did this for about 3 months when I started on CRON), then do

that.

> After a while, you probably will no longer need to keep such

constant track

> of what you're eating or not eating :-)

>

> BTW, our friend is quite overweight. If he just stopped

his " mindless "

> eating, I bet he'd be more fit.

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Yes. This would be wonderful if we could all be like this. I wish I could

in fact. I'm sure I would eat less and enjoy it more.

The next best thing is to " hold yourself accountable " by having to write

down every morsel. There it will be in black and white and even if you're

the only one who " knows " what's on that list, at least you can't be fooling

yourself .

on 10/24/2003 1:54 PM, vegan_alex at alexlerman@... wrote:

> This reminds me of my Buddhist friend's " eating meditation " practice.

> To my understanding, it's the practice of bringing as much awareness

> as possible to each moment of the eating experience: biting, tasting,

> chewing, consciousness, etc. I think it's the ultimate way to find

> satisfaction in what little food cronies consume, with the possible

> side effect of enlightenment. :)

>

> Cheers,

> Vegan_

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Hello CR ALL:

The presence of food sustains the appetite. Banish (get rid of)

the food, and you conquer the appetite. See Jay's remarks below.

-- Warren

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On 24 Oct 2003, Jay wrote:

The moral I see in the story is that the presence of food sustains the

appetite, preventing it from disappearing back into the void. Remove the

sight and smell of food, and the desire for food will begin to dissolve.

This is a great example of the impermanence of all things. Playing with

appetite is a great way to begin to understand how everything arises out of

nothing, exists for a while in an ever-changing state, and then disappears

back into nothing. Anger, appetite, your car, Mt. Everest, the Republican

party, and everything else are subject to that truth. Kind of liberating

really: If you don't like the way things are right now don't worry. They're

guaranteed to be different in a moment.

Many on this list have mentioned the enormous amount of self-discovery

available through CR. This story points to a wonderful opportunity for that.

I've found myself in the mindless eating mode many times, but I now realize

it's mostly due to the presence of food. Take the food away and the desire

goes with it.

Enough with the Buddhist ramble,

Jay

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Warren " <warren.taylor@...>

<crsociety@...>

Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:09 AM

Subject: Re: [CR] [ ] " Mindless " Eating

Hello CR ALL:

This has got to be one of the BEST posts for succeeding at CR

that I have ever read. Understand and do what is below, and

you will save yourself tens of thousands of calories.

Plus you will save yourself much grief besides.

-- Warren

=================================== ===============================

-----Original Message-----

From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:41 AM

support group

Subject: [ ] " mindless " eating

So the moral is: know what and how much you're eating. If you have to

write everything (with the number of calories) down on paper for a while

(I did this for about 3 months when I started on CRON), then do that.

After a while, you probably will no longer need to keep such constant

track of what you're eating or not eating :-)

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> So the moral is: know what and how much you're eating.

If you have to

> write everything (with the number of calories) down on

paper for a while

> (I did this for about 3 months when I started on CRON),

then do that.

> After a while, you probably will no longer need to keep

such constant track

> of what you're eating or not eating :-)

My plans include: Watch my weight,

do what you said (a wonderful conseil),

from time to times weight everything in precision

ballance and myself too

(anal behavior for the porpouse of

being extremist, but only certain periods in the

life) calculate calories and loose weight until BMI

reach 17. I keep my BMI in the range 17-19 becase I'm a

long living creature. Do not need to worrie all the

time for 'constant' day by day calorie intake (like

mice in the lab), just

watch my weight and everything is all right because

I passed my 28... at this age of mine each

9 calories = 1 gram of FAT. I remember this all the time.

Remember that folks and enjoy life :) :) ;)

-- Gandhi

>

> BTW, our friend is quite overweight. If he just stoppe

d his " mindless "

> eating, I bet he'd be more fit.

>

>

>

>

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