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Liver: I have read from others who have claimed good success with the

herb Milk Thistle. Good luck & don't give up..

Eri Gentry wrote:

> I have been having problems with my liver - I don't

> drink but I have elevated enzymes and do not know the cause of this. Does

> anyone have any recommendations on a possible detox or other option?

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As I recall, Eri told us nothing about what her diet was like (only that she

was on CRON) or lifestyle when she gave us this info about her liver

enzymes. How about more info Eri?

on 11/15/2003 12:55 PM, apricot85 at apricot85@... wrote:

> Liver: I have read from others who have claimed good success with the

> herb Milk Thistle. Good luck & don't give up..

>

> Eri Gentry wrote:

>

>> I have been having problems with my liver - I don't

>> drink but I have elevated enzymes and do not know the cause of this. Does

>> anyone have any recommendations on a possible detox or other option?

>

> >

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Whoops, I apologize for not including more info.

I eat about 3 larger meals and 3 smaller snacks per day, all

consisting primarily of raw vegetables. Included, as well, in my

diet is roughly 2 servings of non-fat, plain yogurt per day, several

servings of legumes and a half-handful of nuts. To go with this I

will use vinegar, herbs and spices, and mustard. I will usually have

about 3 pieces of fruit a day, usually cantaloupe, apple, orange,

pineapple and papaya. A few times per week I will have egg whites or

fish. I do not drink coffee or soda but include plenty of green and

herbal teas as well as additional dietary supplements (soluble fiber,

vitamin e/c, digestive enzymes and multi-vitamin). I am not

currently on any medications or OTC drugs. I walk every day (about

30 minutes) and get to the gym several times a week, doing low-

intensity cardio and a strengthening program. I am 68.5 inches tall

and weigh about 126lbs. I estimate that I intake about 1300-1400

calories at this time. My blood glucose is 64, blood pressure is

100/60 and resting pulse is 70. I am wondering about the lower limit

to CR (where you can achieve maximum life extension). I have no idea

how far down I should aim in calorie intake or the other factors.

Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks again!

Eri

> >

> >> I have been having problems with my liver - I don't

> >> drink but I have elevated enzymes and do not know the cause of

this. Does

> >> anyone have any recommendations on a possible detox or other

option?

> >

> > >

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Sounds good to me!! Just a few simple suggestions: Since you seem to be a

vegetarian, the only thing I might suggest is some fish oil supplementation

(if it's not against your ethics) for the many benefits, Also if you never

cook anything you may not be getting the benefits of such nutrients as

lycopene which is released with cooked tomatoes and a bit of fat (such as

olive oil). Raw tomatoes don't cut it.

on 11/15/2003 2:20 PM, gumbyscousin at erica.gentry@... wrote:

>

> Whoops, I apologize for not including more info.

> I eat about 3 larger meals and 3 smaller snacks per day, all

> consisting primarily of raw vegetables. Included, as well, in my

> diet is roughly 2 servings of non-fat, plain yogurt per day, several

> servings of legumes and a half-handful of nuts. To go with this I

> will use vinegar, herbs and spices, and mustard. I will usually have

> about 3 pieces of fruit a day, usually cantaloupe, apple, orange,

> pineapple and papaya. A few times per week I will have egg whites or

> fish. I do not drink coffee or soda but include plenty of green and

> herbal teas as well as additional dietary supplements (soluble fiber,

> vitamin e/c, digestive enzymes and multi-vitamin). I am not

> currently on any medications or OTC drugs. I walk every day (about

> 30 minutes) and get to the gym several times a week, doing low-

> intensity cardio and a strengthening program. I am 68.5 inches tall

> and weigh about 126lbs. I estimate that I intake about 1300-1400

> calories at this time. My blood glucose is 64, blood pressure is

> 100/60 and resting pulse is 70. I am wondering about the lower limit

> to CR (where you can achieve maximum life extension). I have no idea

> how far down I should aim in calorie intake or the other factors.

> Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks again!

>

> Eri

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Eri...

Lots of things cause " elevated enzymes " and low elevations of enzymes may

not be of any major importance but you should get an answer as to how

important this really is. Many people take SAMe (s-adenosylmethionine) for

minor liver problems and you can buy it OTC at places like

Costco...relatively cheaply. Google SAMe for more information and check the

web pages of some of the suppliers. Welcome to the CRON lifestyle.

Rob

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:47:32 -0500

From: " Eri Gentry " <erica.gentry@...>

Subject: New, with questions

Hello there, all. I am a 20 y/o university student in CT, USA and have

been practicing CR for about 1.5 years (rather strictly for the past few

months). It is good to have found this group and my first few days have

already proven quite informative. Thank you, everyone. First off, I was

wondering about a figure of total daily calories for CR. Dr. Walford's site

has calcuated 1400 for me but does anyone know of any other (perhaps quite

comprehensive) calculators? Does anyone know how to determine a good measure

of optimal glucose level or have any information about what this level means

and how it affects health? Mine has been decreasing steadily (I *think* this

is a good thing) but I am concerned that there could be a point which is too

low. I want to increase life span, not hurt my body. Hehe, another concern:

I have been having problems with my liver - I don't drink but I have

elevated enzymes and do not know the cause of this. Does anyone have any

recommendations on a possible detox or other option? OK, LAST THING... I

know this is a bit cutesy to ask, but is there anyone in CT or the Northeast

who might be interested in being a CR " buddy " ? Actually, I would even love

to speak with people online (I use AIM and MSN) to go over issues (I

wouldn't abuse with silly gossip chat =P). Please, please e-mail me if you

are interested in this. Thank you so much and a special note of

appreciation to Francesca for inviting all newcomers to speak out. =) Take

care, all.

Eri

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Hi a,

Welcome to the group.The only thing that I have found that really helps me

is resting. I get up fix breakfast for hubby then go bqck to bed for a

couple of hours.Then I get up and start to do whatever has to be done for

the. I generally lay down and try to at least meditate if not sleep for an

hour in the afternoon. That usually gives me th energy to get thrpugh the

evening. I am not working now and I can do this. But even if you are woking

try to rest as much as possible. I know it sounds crazy but I do feel better

overall when I get the needed rest.

Heidi M

On 12/29/07, fcpionegro <fcpionegro@...> wrote:

>

> Hello everybody,

>

> I joined this group sometime back but had not found an opportunity to

> post and introduce myself. I'm a, 44, and have just developed RA

> over last spring/summer.

>

> I had moved from the west coast to the east coast and attributed my

> fatigue to following up on the endless details that were involved. I

> came down with flu-like symptoms that lasted three or four days in

> May. I feel like I have never recovered from that episode.

>

> Though I had noticed pain in both of my wrists a couple of months

> earlier, I then lost all strength in my hands/arms as a result of that

> " flu. " Yet what finally scared me was the debilitating fatigue which

> never ceases and often prevents me from even climbing my own stairs.

>

> The joint pain has continued to grow, now involving my wrists,

> fingers,elbows, knees, and terrible foot pain. Somehow though, I think

> this would be bearable if I had even some of my energy back.

>

> That is my question here - what have all of you found to help with

> energy levels? My insurance will start again next month - I've been

> without it through all of this. So there will finally be doctor's

> visits - yet, I'm also interested in what I can do for myself to

> support the pharmacological piece.

>

> my best,

>

> a

>

>

>

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> > >

> > > Hello everybody,

> > >

> > > I joined this group sometime back but had not

> > found an opportunity to

> > > post and introduce myself. I'm a, 44, and have

> > just developed RA

> > > over last spring/summer.

> > >

> > > I had moved from the west coast to the east coast

> > and attributed my

> > > fatigue to following up on the endless details

> > that were involved. I

> > > came down with flu-like symptoms that lasted three

> > or four days in

> > > May. I feel like I have never recovered from that

> > episode.

> > >

> > > Though I had noticed pain in both of my wrists a

> > couple of months

> > > earlier, I then lost all strength in my hands/arms

> > as a result of that

> > > " flu. " Yet what finally scared me was the

> > debilitating fatigue which

> > > never ceases and often prevents me from even

> > climbing my own stairs.

> > >

> > > The joint pain has continued to grow, now

> > involving my wrists,

> > > fingers,elbows, knees, and terrible foot pain.

> > Somehow though, I think

> > > this would be bearable if I had even some of my

> > energy back.

> > >

> > > That is my question here - what have all of you

> > found to help with

> > > energy levels? My insurance will start again next

> > month - I've been

> > > without it through all of this. So there will

> > finally be doctor's

> > > visits - yet, I'm also interested in what I can do

> > for myself to

> > > support the pharmacological piece.

> > >

> > > my best,

> > >

> > > a

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Yep, agreed. Fatigue is one of the worst components of this disease. I

sleep 10-12 hours per 24 as well. On weekends, because of the MTX, I

sleep 18 hours on Saturday/Sunday. My fatigue started a year ago after

a bad flu which I thought at the time, I just never recovered from.

Then 3 months ago the physical pains started in earnest.

I just try to rest whenever I can. I'm learning to not push myself.

Good luck!

Kim

>

> I was diagnosed in 2003 and the fatigue for me has only gotten worse.

When I told my rheumy that I needed 12 hours sleep per 24 hours I think

he felt that was excessive, but that is the way my life is. I am

fortunate in that I was able to sell my home a little over 1 year ago

for an inflated price and I relocated in a warmer climate with

reasonable home prices.

>

> When I am very stressed, required more sleep than ever. The only

time that I feel " normal " is when I am on steroids. I don't require as

much sleep and my joints don't hurt as much.

>

>

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