Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 I've been taking melatonin nightly for years for it's antioxidant and possible other health and longevity benefits, but, although I regularly take 6 grams/night, I really never noticed any detectable clinical effect I could discern. " E-Mail is not to be used to pass on information or data. It should only be used for company business. " --Dilbert " Ahh, they have the internet on computers now " - Homer J. Simpson " The human race has only one truely effective weapon, and that is laughter! " - Mark Twain >From: Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...> >Reply- >support group < > >Subject: [ ] melatonin >Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:30:19 -0400 > >As the veterans in the group know, I've often complained about poor sleep. >In the past I had tried melatonin and never noticed a difference in sleep. >A few days ago I again tried melatonin and am sleeping somewhat better, not >perfect, but better. It's possible I didn't take a high enough dose in the >past and even now perhaps I should take a bit more (I'm taking about 2 >mgms). > >However I have noticed a tremendous increase in energy. I wake up in the >am >raring to go (which is itself unusual as I've always been a slow riser) and >accomplish much more than I used to. Is anyone else taking melatonin? If >so, any beneficial side effects such as what I think I'm getting from it? > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with MSN Messenger 6.0 -- download now! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Is melatonin expensive? Is it useful for those who already have perfect or near perfect sleep? - > As the veterans in the group know, I've often complained about poor sleep. > In the past I had tried melatonin and never noticed a difference in sleep. > A few days ago I again tried melatonin and am sleeping somewhat better, not > perfect, but better. It's possible I didn't take a high enough dose in the > past and even now perhaps I should take a bit more (I'm taking about 2 > mgms). > > However I have noticed a tremendous increase in energy. I wake up in the am > raring to go (which is itself unusual as I've always been a slow riser) and > accomplish much more than I used to. Is anyone else taking melatonin? If > so, any beneficial side effects such as what I think I'm getting from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Melatonin is very inexpensive. But young people have lots of it. It's us old fogies who no longer make enough of it. You have 30 years or so before you need to concern yourself with it. on 9/15/2003 4:14 PM, paultheo2000 at paultheo2000@... wrote: > Is melatonin expensive? Is it useful for those who already have > perfect or near perfect sleep? > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 This is my side effect of melatonin: When I take melatonin every day for many month, I become to be in sync with sun. Then at 8 pm, I want my bed I stop to use it because I have need make some overtime. Now, I use it in dermal way. The name Melatonin mean than it is a dermal hormone, and I think than can help my skin more in dermal way than in oral Bye (and sorry for my english) > As the veterans in the group know, I've often complained about poor sleep. > In the past I had tried melatonin and never noticed a difference in sleep. > A few days ago I again tried melatonin and am sleeping somewhat better, not > perfect, but better. It's possible I didn't take a high enough dose in the > past and even now perhaps I should take a bit more (I'm taking about 2 > mgms). > > However I have noticed a tremendous increase in energy. I wake up in the am > raring to go (which is itself unusual as I've always been a slow riser) and > accomplish much more than I used to. Is anyone else taking melatonin? If > so, any beneficial side effects such as what I think I'm getting from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 In a message dated 9/21/2003 4:03:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, dowlic@... writes: By "dermal way," do you mean you take exogenous melatonin transdermally or are you augmenting your endogenous melatonin via your sun exposure? Thanks. You guys are getting your melanins and your melatonins all mixed up. Sun exposure does not increase melatonin. Winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 By " dermal way, " do you mean you take exogenous melatonin transdermally or are you augmenting your endogenous melatonin via your sun exposure? Thanks. " E-Mail is not to be used to pass on information or data. It should only be used for company business. " --Dilbert " Ahh, they have the internet on computers now " - Homer J. Simpson " The human race has only one truely effective weapon, and that is laughter! " - Mark Twain >From: " leopardmike " <leopardmike@...> >Reply- > >Subject: [ ] Re: melatonin >Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:16:34 -0000 > >This is my side effect of melatonin: >When I take melatonin every day for many month, I become to be in >sync with sun. Then at 8 pm, I want my bed I stop to use it >because I have need make some overtime. > >Now, I use it in dermal way. The name Melatonin mean than it is a >dermal hormone, and I think than can help my skin more in dermal way >than in oral > >Bye >(and sorry for my english) > > > > As the veterans in the group know, I've often complained about >poor sleep. > > In the past I had tried melatonin and never noticed a difference >in sleep. > > A few days ago I again tried melatonin and am sleeping somewhat >better, not > > perfect, but better. It's possible I didn't take a high enough >dose in the > > past and even now perhaps I should take a bit more (I'm taking >about 2 > > mgms). > > > > However I have noticed a tremendous increase in energy. I wake up >in the am > > raring to go (which is itself unusual as I've always been a slow >riser) and > > accomplish much more than I used to. Is anyone else taking >melatonin? If > > so, any beneficial side effects such as what I think I'm getting >from it? > > _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos without swamping your Inbox. Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 I'm not mixed up at all. I was simply asking a question. We have not been discussing melanin. Melatonin secretion can be suppressed by sun exposure, at least, and some sun or light exposure may be required to help regulate melatonin secretion: " Daily sun exposure enhances sleep. Lack of sleep results in daytime fatigue. Melatonin, a natural hormone produced in the pineal gland of the brain and the retina of the eye, enhances sleep, thereby energizing the body. Daily exposure to bright sunlight increases the production of melatonin and other pineal chemicals such as serotonin. The production of melatonin is carefully regulated by the light-dark cycle. Peak melatonin production only occurs at night, in a dark environment. Melatonin is not stored in the body. Thus, we need a liberal supply each night to sleep well. " " Exposure to bright light, such as that emitted by the mid-day summer sun, causes the brain to suppress the release of the hormone melatonin " Also, the prior poster is correct: " The sleep hormone (melatonin) and the anti-stress hormone (DHEA) are both found in human skin. Both are converted to other entities with important jobs to do. DHEA is converted into estrogen and androgen-type metabolites found only in skin. Melatonin is synthesized in skin. In low concentrations it can stimulate cell growth. This type of on-site, organ-specific production of hormones is called intracrine biosynthesis. Intracrine biosynthesis allows different organs to manufacture the substances they need without flooding the entire body with growth factors. " " Studies show that both DHEA and melatonin are absorbed by skin when applied topically. A study from CHUL Research Center (in Canada) shows that the activity of DHEA applied topically is 85-90% greater than when taken orally (at least in rodents). No special carriers are needed to get DHEA and melatonin into skin. A properly formulated topical preparation of melatonin and DHEA will contain just enough hormone to benefit skin without providing enough to escape into circulation. It makes sense to apply the hormones directly to the skin if skin protection is the goal, since ingested hormones may end up everywhere but the skin. " " Melatonin is another antioxidant that protects against UV radiation. A group at the University of Zurich has shown that topical melatonin gives excellent protection against sunburn if applied before sun exposure. Melatonin also appears to have a role in repairing burned skin. In a study published in Brain Research Bulletin, melatonin levels rose 6 hours after burn injury, then fell to normal. " " E-Mail is not to be used to pass on information or data. It should only be used for company business. " --Dilbert " Ahh, they have the internet on computers now " - Homer J. Simpson " The human race has only one truely effective weapon, and that is laughter! " - Mark Twain >From: WinterQQ@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: [ ] Re: melatonin >Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 06:49:53 EDT > >In a message dated 9/21/2003 4:03:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, >dowlic@... writes: > > > By " dermal way, " do you mean you take exogenous melatonin transdermally >or > > are you augmenting your endogenous melatonin via your sun exposure? > > > > Thanks. > > > >You guys are getting your melanins and your melatonins all mixed up. Sun >exposure does not increase melatonin. > >Winter _________________________________________________________________ Instant message during games with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 > Dowling " > By " dermal way, " do you mean you take exogenous melatonin >transdermally or are you augmenting your endogenous melatonin via >your sun exposure? I take exogenous melatonin transdermally. I takes a capsule of 1.5 mg which I dissolve in water and then I apply to the skin with a moisturizing lotion. It is possible because melatonin is very small and lipo-soluble P.S. I make the same for the DHEA. Night with melatonin and morning for DHEA. I think than CRON is a good thing is health is excellent, to many people forget the skin. Bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 That's what I thought. Thanks for your reply. " E-Mail is not to be used to pass on information or data. It should only be used for company business. " --Dilbert " Ahh, they have the internet on computers now " - Homer J. Simpson " The human race has only one truely effective weapon, and that is laughter! " - Mark Twain >From: " leopardmike " <leopardmike@...> >Reply- > >Subject: [ ] Re: melatonin >Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:55:32 -0000 > > > > Dowling " > > By " dermal way, " do you mean you take exogenous melatonin > >transdermally or are you augmenting your endogenous melatonin via > >your sun exposure? > >I take exogenous melatonin transdermally. > >I takes a capsule of 1.5 mg which I dissolve in water and then I >apply to the skin with a moisturizing lotion. >It is possible because melatonin is very small and lipo-soluble > >P.S. I make the same for the DHEA. Night with melatonin and morning >for DHEA. > >I think than CRON is a good thing is health is excellent, to many >people forget the skin. > >Bye > _________________________________________________________________ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Hello Francesca and CR ALL: I take melatonin when I want to be certain to sleep well. Take too much however, and you can be drowsy the next day. Take the right amount just before bedtime, and you will probably sleep well and wakeup energized. Trial and error the dosage to fit your age and situation. I take 3 mg, simply because 1 mg doesn't work quite as well for me. If you exercise a lot on a given day, you normally sleep quite well, and don't need melatonin. Also, if you eat a high carb diet, you sleep better. If you cheat with extra carbs on a low carb diet, esp before bed, or you happen to eat a big or heavy meal, then you don't have as much need to take melatonin to sleep better. Also eating lightly just before bed (not too much) can help you sleep better too. Exercise invariably helps you sleep better. Taking holidays from melatonin can be good, to achieve maximum effectiveness and response when you want to achieve it. -- Warren ====================================== ============================== -----Original Message----- From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:30 AM support group Subject: [ ] melatonin As the veterans in the group know, I've often complained about poor sleep. In the past I had tried melatonin and never noticed a difference in sleep. A few days ago I again tried melatonin and am sleeping somewhat better, not perfect, but better. It's possible I didn't take a high enough dose in the past and even now perhaps I should take a bit more (I'm taking about 2 mgms). However I have noticed a tremendous increase in energy. I wake up in the am raring to go (which is itself unusual as I've always been a slow riser) and accomplish much more than I used to. Is anyone else taking melatonin? If so, any beneficial side effects such as what I think I'm getting from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 I've heard nothing but good about melatonin and I'm sure I would take it if it weren't for the fact that my anti-depressant medication makes me sleepy enough most nights. -Dominick > Hello Francesca and CR ALL: > > I take melatonin when I want to be certain to sleep well. > Take too much however, and you can be drowsy the next day. > Take the right amount just before bedtime, and you will > probably sleep well and wakeup energized. Trial and error > the dosage to fit your age and situation. I take 3 mg, > simply because 1 mg doesn't work quite as well for me. > > [...] > > -- Warren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Peg: it's a different dosage for everyone. For me, I've found that 2 mg is about right. on 11/6/2003 2:51 PM, hsanborn2@... at hsanborn2@... wrote: > I am hoping you will also tell us the dosage of melatonin you favor as your > only supplement. Best, Peg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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