how much carbohydrate per day

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Hi, there.

Can anyone tell me the minimum amount of carbohydrate they consume on

a daily basis?

I once made a menu that was pretty low in carbohydrate (30% RDA), it

turned out to be a complete disaster.

I became weak towards the end of the day and severly affected my

sleeping and daily routine. Has anyone found a minimum amount of

carbohydrate intake through trial and error.

johnny

[Guest guest]

--- In , " temma675 " <temma675@y...>

wrote:

> Hi, there.

>

> Can anyone tell me the minimum amount of carbohydrate they consume

> on a daily basis?

>

> I once made a menu that was pretty low in carbohydrate (30% RDA),

> it turned out to be a complete disaster.

>

> I became weak towards the end of the day and severly affected my

> sleeping and daily routine. Has anyone found a minimum amount of

> carbohydrate intake through trial and error.

>

> johnny

Hey ny ~

Before I answer, can you clarify what YOU mean by " carbs, " please.

Are you thinking of refined and UNrefined carbs only (breads, rice,

pasta) or would include veggies and fruits and legumes as part of the

carb intake? Your answer will help me better respond accurately.

Thanks.

~ andy

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey ny ~

>

> Before I answer, can you clarify what YOU mean by " carbs, " please.

> Are you thinking of refined and UNrefined carbs only (breads, rice,

> pasta) or would include veggies and fruits and legumes as part of

the

> carb intake? Your answer will help me better respond accurately.

> Thanks.

>

> ~ andy

To Andy,

Thanks for replying to my message. I am consuming unrefined

carbohydrate mostly in the form of wheat germ and beans, not much

vegetable or fruit. I am currently consuming around 50~70%RDA for

carbohydrate, of which 100%RDA for dietary fiber. I am getting 100%

RDA for almost all other vital nutrients from food.

I once made a menu where the only carbs came from an orange, nuts and

500g of spinach. I was getting enough dietary fiber but I think my

low carbohydrate intake had too much of a bearing on my daily routine.

I read the book by Dr. Wolford but I cant remember if he said

anything about RDA cabohydrate. Can you tell your minimum/average

carbohydrate consumption (in g,%)?

Hope you can help me, thanks again for the reply,

johnny

[Guest guest]

ny: we recommend (as does Walford) eating a wide variety of vegetables

and fruit. Nutrients are constantly being discovered in these foods that

prevent disease and keep one healthy.

See Suzi Cart's " Checklist for CRON Variety " in the files. Uou may have

read Walford, but when you say: you're " not consuming much vegetable or

fruit " , you are not on a CRON diet.

on 10/23/2003 3:16 AM, temma675 at temma675@... wrote:

> Thanks for replying to my message. I am consuming unrefined

> carbohydrate mostly in the form of wheat germ and beans, not much

> vegetable or fruit. I am currently consuming around 50~70%RDA for

> carbohydrate, of which 100%RDA for dietary fiber. I am getting 100%

> RDA for almost all other vital nutrients from food.

>

> I once made a menu where the only carbs came from an orange, nuts and

> 500g of spinach. I was getting enough dietary fiber but I think my

> low carbohydrate intake had too much of a bearing on my daily routine.

>

> I read the book by Dr. Wolford but I cant remember if he said

> anything about RDA cabohydrate. Can you tell your minimum/average

> carbohydrate consumption (in g,%)?

>

> Hope you can help me, thanks again for the reply,

[Guest guest]

A possibly relevant question ....... Who originated the term " CRON

diet " ? If it was Walford then when referring to the CRON diet we may

properly say it is defined as being what Walford recommends.

If it was not originated by Walford then the " ON " part of the term

may depend on who one is talking to.

Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks.

>

> > Thanks for replying to my message. I am consuming unrefined

> > carbohydrate mostly in the form of wheat germ and beans, not much

> > vegetable or fruit. I am currently consuming around 50~70%RDA for

> > carbohydrate, of which 100%RDA for dietary fiber. I am getting

100%

> > RDA for almost all other vital nutrients from food.

> >

> > I once made a menu where the only carbs came from an orange, nuts

and

> > 500g of spinach. I was getting enough dietary fiber but I think my

> > low carbohydrate intake had too much of a bearing on my daily

routine.

> >

> > I read the book by Dr. Wolford but I cant remember if he said

> > anything about RDA cabohydrate. Can you tell your minimum/average

> > carbohydrate consumption (in g,%)?

> >

> > Hope you can help me, thanks again for the reply,

[Guest guest]

--- In , " temma675 " <temma675@y...>

wrote:

> Thanks for replying to my message. I am consuming unrefined

> carbohydrate mostly in the form of wheat germ and beans, not much

> vegetable or fruit. I am currently consuming around 50~70%RDA for

> carbohydrate, of which 100%RDA for dietary fiber. I am getting 100%

> RDA for almost all other vital nutrients from food.

>

> I once made a menu where the only carbs came from an orange, nuts

> and 500g of spinach. I was getting enough dietary fiber but I

> think my low carbohydrate intake had too much of a bearing on my

> daily routine.

>

> I read the book by Dr. Wolford but I cant remember if he said

> anything about RDA cabohydrate. Can you tell your minimum/average

> carbohydrate consumption (in g,%)?

>

> Hope you can help me, thanks again for the reply,

Hi ny ~

I can't help you, but you may, perhaps, help yourself. ;-)

First: consider what is the rationale for being on CRON? To be as

healthy as possible for as long as possible (and possibly to lose

excess bodyweight & fat in the process for some of us). But the

first reason is the PRIMARY one (within it is included the notion of

staving off illness and disease).

Second: how does one achieve the result above?

There are *several* pov on this issue. You will have to read and

weigh them and then a decision will be reached and followed.

If you read my Message 8466, you will learn about the amount and

type of carbs that I consume. I have been losing weight, pretty

steadily, by eating only UNrefined carbs (which are lightly cooked:

e.g., oat groats and whole wheat for breakfast = a very chewy meal,

unlike oatmeal; when I add the fruit -- either berries or a chopped

up apple -- this meal takes a LONG time to eat and is digested

slowly = low glycemic index). I've found that eating predominantly

fruits and vegetables and relatively UNrefined carbs (e.g., whole

wheat pasta; brown or wild rice; dense, chewy whole-grain bread)

leaves me feeling satisfied. As well, I suspect that I am probably

getting adequate nutrition (I eat a small amount of protein at every

meal as well: either nuts/nut butter, or soy, or salmon, or white-

meat chicken).

I began using a technique that I later learned was actually part of

the Okinawa Program: eating until I just begin to feel satisfied and

then stopping (in the book, the authors quantify this amount at

80%...although I have no idea how one determines when he/she is

80% " full " ). It is true that when eating in this manner (as I have

been for five months now) I don't ever feel *really* full, but I

don't feel " deprived. " Sure hunger returns in a few hours, but that

isn't really a problem. I merely have a slice of dense, chewy whole-

grain bread or an apple or pear, or a handful of nuts and I'm fine

until the next meal. I really don't think carbs are the " bad guys "

that many others do, provide that they are either UNrefined or only

mildly refined (e.g., cooked brown or wild rice). And...one must

eat them in moderation.

However...

Each person has his or her own:

physiological " history, "

set of genes (and thus genetic predispositions),

unique metabolism (based on size and lean tissue mass),

and individual " allergic " responses to particular foods.

Thus there is no one diet that fits all. You must custom tailor it

to *your* body, lifestyle, and psychological comfort (if you feel

deprived, you will eventually cease following the diet). As

Sheehan, the late cardiologist/runner/philosopher wrote, " We are

each of us an experiement of one. "

~ andy