Re: A CRON kit for traveling

[Guest guest]

One such food that comes to mind are the " Rebars " I ordered on the web at

http://www.healthcocanada.com/index.htm. Perfect for traveling and I plan

to use them on my next trip. Another easy food to take is my recipe for

" healthy cake " or " Chessy-poo cake " which is in the recipe file.

Perhaps we'll make a file containing these suggestions.

on 11/6/2003 9:42 PM, thin_man02 at thin_man02@... wrote:

> It occurred to me that it might be a good to come up with ideas for=

>

> a

> CRON " kit " of foods one could take while traveling (if this hasn't been don=

>

> e

> already on this forum), either to supplement carefully chosen meals in

> restaurants, or as a substitute when choices are limited. It would be

> interesting to see what ideas we can come up with.

>

> Thin Man

[Guest guest]

Some supermarket road food that I've used (in addition to fruit and nuts) is

beef jerky... low carb/high protein.

JR

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From: thin_man02 [mailto:thin_man02@...]

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:42 PM

Subject: [ ] A CRON " kit " for traveling

I had the interesting experience today of having lunch with a friend (I had=

a

salad) who is a type II diabetic, but not really overweight by conventional=

standards. He travels a lot for work, and complained about the difficulty =

of

eating well due to stress and an uncertain meal schedule while on the road.=

Recently, skipping lunch during a midday drive between cities, he resorted =

to

a candy bar (!) instead of a proper, low glycemic index meal or snack. I t=

old

him that he should put a " kit " together for such a situation. So, after lu=

nch we

went to a super market (Giant Stores, here in the D.C. area). The best we =

could do was a " kit " that included nuts (almonds, walnuts), little cans of =

V-8

juice (low sodium), no sugar-added apple sauce in snack sized containers,

and pitted prunes (probably these contain too much sugar, but are high in

ORAC value). There wasn't much else in the store we could think of that

would fit the criteria of a " kit. " The contents of such a kit should be fo=

ods that

can last for weeks to months, conveniently packaged items, relatively easy =

to

eat, low fat (or with good fats) and low in carbs, good nutrients—that kind=

of

thing. It occurred to me that it might be a good to come up with ideas for=

a

CRON " kit " of foods one could take while traveling (if this hasn't been don=

e

already on this forum), either to supplement carefully chosen meals in

restaurants, or as a substitute when choices are limited. It would be

interesting to see what ideas we can come up with.

Thin Man

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But nitrite/nitrate rich?

Tins of herring, tuna for me.

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>From: " john roberts " <johnhrob@...>

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>Subject: RE: [ ] A CRON " kit " for traveling

>Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:50:28 -0600

>

>Some supermarket road food that I've used (in addition to fruit and nuts)

>is

>beef jerky... low carb/high protein.

>

>JR

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: thin_man02 [mailto:thin_man02@...]

>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:42 PM

>

>Subject: [ ] A CRON " kit " for traveling

>

>

>I had the interesting experience today of having lunch with a friend (I

>had=

>a

>salad) who is a type II diabetic, but not really overweight by

>conventional=

>standards. He travels a lot for work, and complained about the difficulty

>=

>of

>eating well due to stress and an uncertain meal schedule while on the

>road.=

>Recently, skipping lunch during a midday drive between cities, he resorted

>=

>to

>a candy bar (!) instead of a proper, low glycemic index meal or snack. I

>t=

>old

>him that he should put a " kit " together for such a situation. So, after

>lu=

>nch we

>went to a super market (Giant Stores, here in the D.C. area). The best we

>=

>could do was a " kit " that included nuts (almonds, walnuts), little cans of

>=

>V-8

>juice (low sodium), no sugar-added apple sauce in snack sized containers,

>and pitted prunes (probably these contain too much sugar, but are high in

>ORAC value). There wasn't much else in the store we could think of that

>would fit the criteria of a " kit. " The contents of such a kit should be

>fo=

>ods that

>can last for weeks to months, conveniently packaged items, relatively easy

>=

>to

>eat, low fat (or with good fats) and low in carbs, good nutrients—that

>kind=

>of

>thing. It occurred to me that it might be a good to come up with ideas

>for=

>a

>CRON " kit " of foods one could take while traveling (if this hasn't been

>don=

>e

>already on this forum), either to supplement carefully chosen meals in

>restaurants, or as a substitute when choices are limited. It would be

>interesting to see what ideas we can come up with.

>

>Thin Man

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Tuna now comes in tear-open envelopes. The water/oil has been pressed out of the

fish, so you can eat this with a plastic fork without making a mess of the

airport.

Safari Snacks: http://www.safarisnacks.com/

Suz

[Guest guest]

Safari Snacks also appear to be rich in nitrates and nitrites.

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>From: " Suzanne Cart " <massuz@...>

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>Subject: [ ] RE: A CRON " kit " for traveling

>Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:49:11 -0800

>

>Tuna now comes in tear-open envelopes. The water/oil has been pressed

>out of the fish, so you can eat this with a plastic fork without making

>a mess of the airport.

>

>Safari Snacks: http://www.safarisnacks.com/

>

>Suz

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[Guest guest]

> To construct a food 'kit' containing long-lasting items, isn't it just a

> simple matter of restricting your database to only long-lasting foods, and

> then just letting the program determing a set of foods that work at 1600

> calories, 1500 calories, 1400 calories, or whatever your personal target is?

>

> Be well,

> Zack

While " ON " is very important in CRON, I've always considered " CR " to be the

most critical aspect of the diet. I don't believe that the " chows " fed to

animals

in CR experiments are perfectly optimized, yet the results are always

extended longevity for the CR animals. Walford writes that the important thing

is optimizing nutrition over time. That is, an occasional conventional meal

won't likely derail one's CRON benefits. Indeed, Walford admits to sometimes

eating in restaurants, and in his books provides suggestions on how to best

choose foods when eating out.

It's much easier to apply computer analysis to one's CRON diet at home. But,

on the road, the goal should be to at least minimize damage. That's the idea

behind the travel " kit. " Some who are excessively compulsive about CRON

soon drop out because they can't achieve perfection. As Francesca is always

preaching, and I agree, moderation is key.

Thin Man

[Guest guest]

Zack: many of us do us a database. Some of us don't. The " kit " is just an

emergency list of foods on the run, or for travel - not a total CRON diet.

Many CRONIES feel that " optimizing' their diet is not necessary. I myself

fall somewhere inbetween. I don't use a database because I don't want the

feeling that my life revolves around food -i.e. for my own mental health and

so that I don't become " obsessive. Yet I know I'm on CRON from my bloodwork

and the fact that I hardly ever get sick. There are also other ways of

knowing that one is a CRONIE.

Welcome to the group and good luck on your way to becoming a CRONIE!

on 11/7/2003 10:12 AM, Zack Brown at zbrown@... wrote:

> I'm confused. From the other replies to this, it seems that people are not

> using the computer to determine the food list. I thought the CRON diet was

> all about 'optimizing' nutrition, while exerting a corresponding control

> over caloric intake. To do that pretty much requires a computer to balance

> out the linear inequalities.

To construct a food 'kit' containing long-lasting items, isn't it just a

simple matter of restricting your database to only long-lasting foods, and

then just letting the program determing a set of foods that work at 1600

calories, 1500 calories, 1400 calories, or whatever your personal target is?

[Guest guest]

so far we have these suggestions for the long-term or " travel " kit:

from thin_man:

nuts (almonds, walnuts), little cans of V-8 juice (low sodium), no

sugar-added apple sauce in snack sized containers, and pitted prunes

(probably these contain too much sugar, but are high in ORAC value).

Francesca:

Rebars " I ordered on the web at

http://www.healthcocanada.com/index.htm.

:

Some supermarket road food that I've used (in addition to fruit and nuts) is

beef jerky... low carb/high protein.

Dowling:

Tins of herring, tuna for me.

Suzie Cart:

Tuna now comes in tear-open envelopes.  The water/oil has been pressed out

of the fish, so you can eat this with a plastic fork without making a mess

of the airport.  

 Safari Snacks: http://www.safarisnacks.com/

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

If I am out and needing something to eat I often go into the nearest

supermarket and buy a bag of half a dozen whole wheat pitas. Would

not do well in an emergency kit as they only have a shelf life of a

few days.

I find them tasty enough to eat on their own. And they certainly

tide me over until I am back in a safe food environment (home)!

I may also buy almonds; or the mixed nuts, no peanuts.

Rodney.

> so far we have these suggestions for the long-term or " travel " kit:

>

> from thin_man:

> nuts (almonds, walnuts), little cans of V-8 juice (low sodium),

no

> sugar-added apple sauce in snack sized containers, and pitted prunes

> (probably these contain too much sugar, but are high in ORAC value).

>

> Francesca:

> Rebars " I ordered on the web at

> http://www.healthcocanada.com/index.htm.

>

> :

> Some supermarket road food that I've used (in addition to fruit and

nuts) is

> beef jerky... low carb/high protein.

>

> Dowling:

> Tins of herring, tuna for me.

>

> Suzie Cart:

> Tuna now comes in tear-open envelopes.  The water/oil has been

pressed out

> of the fish, so you can eat this with a plastic fork without making

a mess

> of the airport.  

>  Safari Snacks: http://www.safarisnacks.com/

>  

>

>  

>  

>  

>  

[Guest guest]

What about a high-protein bar or canned beverage like Ensure or Slim-

Fast? Those kinds of drinks may have too much sugar for a diabetic.

Does Atkins have something like that? Does Atkins offer something

like a high-protein cracker? Also, maybe your friend could do a

search on the Internet for companies that offer non-perishable foods

for diabetics.

Anyway, those are my $.02.

[Guest guest]

Hi : our list is for CRONIES (us) . You're right about Ensure and

Slimfast. Although touted as " healthy " - those drinks have gook in them

like " corn syrup " and other dubious ingredients.

Some of the high protein bars are Ok. One has to read the ingredients

carefully as with everything.

on 11/8/2003 7:12 AM, crazymom23boys1girl at gobrien25@... wrote:

> What about a high-protein bar or canned beverage like Ensure or Slim-

> Fast? Those kinds of drinks may have too much sugar for a diabetic.

> Does Atkins have something like that? Does Atkins offer something

> like a high-protein cracker? Also, maybe your friend could do a

> search on the Internet for companies that offer non-perishable foods

> for diabetics.

>

> Anyway, those are my $.02.

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 11:33:57AM -0500, Francesca Skelton wrote:

> Rebars " I ordered on the web at

> http://www.healthcocanada.com/index.htm.

Now those look nice! I know a lot of non-CRONies who would benefit from

one of those each day.

I didn't see 'rebars: multi' listed as available for online ordering,

though they're listed from the main page. My web browser could be

messing up. Could someone confirm that the 'multi' is actually available

in the online ordering page?

Be well,

Zack

--

Zack Brown

[Guest guest]

I didn't get it on my page either. I actually had to call them for my order

as the order page wasn't working right. So if you're interested in the

multi, give them a call toll free at: 877-468-2875 or e-mail them at:

kerry@...

(BTW I am not affiliated in any way with this product. It's just handy for a

snack if you're on the run. In fact it was who first brought it to the

attention of the group)

on 11/8/2003 2:50 PM, Zack Brown at zbrown@... wrote:

> Could someone confirm that the 'multi' is actually available

> in the online ordering page?

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I recently ordered some rebars at the number listed in Francesca's post below.

Here's what I learned:

First of all, rebars are very delicious, although the first one I ate

struck me oddly. I wasn't expecting it to taste the way it did, but once

I got used to it, I found them to be very tasty. My first order was for

one box, and I just ordered another 4 boxes.

When I called up the place, a very nice man answered. We got to

talking, and I mentioned caloric restriction. He seemed very interested,

and I gave him a couple Walford references.

They offer a number of different kinds of rebars. Some are experimental,

and they are very up front about that. The experimental rebars sometimes

change in response to feedback.

Overall, once the rebars were in my possession (see below), I really enjoyed

them, in spite of the fact that the experimental bars are completely unlabeled,

except for one bar of each type, which does contain an ingredient list. but

if the bars come out from the rubber band during shipping, they all look

identical and so it is impossible to tell which is which without eating

them. To solve this, you can order one full box of each flavor. That will

keep them properly separated.

The other problem is shipping. Standard shipping takes about 10 days if the

bars have to go outside of Canada. If you ask, the guy will offer to use a

faster method for more money, but he can't guarantee that it will actually

be faster in all cases, because sometimes getting past the border just takes

time. There may also be a still faster method, but I didn't try that one.

I recommend rebars for anyone who likes good-tasting, healthy snacks.

They are nutrient-rich, low in calories, and tasty. YUM! I just ordered 4

more boxes, and I plan to keep them around my house from now on.

Be well,

Zack

On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 03:05:37PM -0500, Francesca Skelton wrote:

> I didn't get it on my page either. I actually had to call them for my order

> as the order page wasn't working right. So if you're interested in the

> multi, give them a call toll free at: 877-468-2875 or e-mail them at:

> kerry@...

>

> (BTW I am not affiliated in any way with this product. It's just handy for a

> snack if you're on the run. In fact it was who first brought it to the

> attention of the group)

>

>

> on 11/8/2003 2:50 PM, Zack Brown at zbrown@... wrote:

>

> > Could someone confirm that the 'multi' is actually available

> > in the online ordering page?

>

>

>

>