Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 --- Mehner <valiegal50@...> wrote: > What happened to me on Friday set me off. I fixed > a big bag of candida safe foods for breakfast, > lunch, and supper as I knew that I would be leaving Hi again Val.. I'm not Bee, but I hope you don't mind me responding to this message. It sounds like you had a really difficult challenge on friday. I had something similar happen to me when I was in bed for three days with a migraine. My days always start with planning and cooking my food for the day. But with the migraine I didn't eat for three days, and when I finally barely stumbled out of bed starving, I wasn't up to cooking and ate some processed meat and fruit because it was easy to grab. After that experience I realized that I need to have a back up plan, because for me eating this way is a very important thing. oing off plan even just a little means cravings, terrible physical symptoms for a long period of time, so I use strategies to support myself. So what I did was cook up some chicken and green beans in coconut oil and stick it in the fridge. So now, all I would have to do is stick that in the toaster oven, no real cooking (or energy required). I also plan to stock up on canned meat and veggies (better than processed foods) in case of emergency or disaster. I know this wouldn't help in your situation but here's another idea specific to you. Maybe you can make yourself some homemade beef jerky (ask if you need an oven recipe - I can send to you) and keep it in your car. Or perhaps some canned meat and veggies and a can opener in you car. This way if something happens to your food again you have a back up. One time my son knocked my food onto the floor and I had to cook it again.. good thing it was a weekend. I have found for me it is so critical I stay on plan I have all sorts of strategies and back up plans just in case. If I were in that situation I would have said I'm not feeling well, I need to go home. Or I would have said I have severe wheat allergies and I need to go get some appropriate food. Or I'm diabetic and I can't eat all that sugar or I will get sick. I would have probably cancelled one of my appts. But that's just me, I don't know what your work situation is. Eating this way is a huge priority for me and maybe it's selfish but I can't take care of others when I'm sick. So if I have to put other people off to take care of myself I do. > Bee, the question I have concerns cholesteral. I > know and have read the things that you have written > about the theory of the medical beliefs on this. I have similar concerns although I have no problem believing cholesterol is a non-issue. My concerns about cholesterol were more because even though I don't care about the issue, I know others do, and I'd love to be able to hold up my results and wave them in their face. They are much better than they used to be but still need some work. I figure if I eat this way with lots of fat and my good cholesterol goes up and bad cholesterol goes down, that's good enough. If it doesn't, it won't change the way I am eating, because I don't need any convincing that this is the way I should eat. Just how good I feel and the results I've gotten with my weight and health are proof enough for me. As far as why you have family members that had cholesterol in their arteries, let me give you an analogy. What do you put in your engine when you want to lubricate it? Oil right? Now what happens if you put sugar in your engine. It gets sticky and gums up right? Well your body works very much the same way. The more sugar you put in your body, the more it makes the oil in your body sticky, and it sticks and clogs the arteries. You must have oil to lubricate your body. Hormones are created from cholesterol, 70 or 80 percent (never remember the exact figure) of your brain is cholesterol, your skin needs it, etc. What you don't need is sugar.. your body can create all the sugar it needs, which isn't much. Hope this helps some Val.. hang in there.. Luv, Debby San , CA It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves into a new action. My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 <snip> > Today I had to be gone most of the day, as it was a day off. My husband and I went on a color tour and took a ski lift up to the top of a mountain to view the colors. At a restaurant nearby I ate some soup and caved into a piece of rich dessert. Well, all the way home I had a heavy feeling in my chest, heartburn, and shortness of breath. I was getting so nervous about it being a heart attack. Well, it subsided a couple of hours later, but I'm concerned as I'm diabetic and have had high blood pressure in the past. I know that your diet is the best for keeping my blood sugar under control and my blood pressure down. That is one reason that I should stay with it always. Try convincing myself of this. I've tried and tried, and failed miserably. I hope that I haven't damaged my heart with all of the no- no foods I've eaten lately. ==>Your heart isn't so easily damaged by a couple of days of indescretions. > > Bee, the question I have concerns cholesteral. I know and have read the things that you have written about the theory of the medical beliefs on this. Well, I need to know what you feel is causing people to have heart attacks and hardening of the arteries. The reason I ask is that this has been running rampent in our family for years. My mother comes from a large family and all of her brothers and sisters have had heart problems, strokes, many have died young, did not smoke, were not overweight, nor did any of them have diabetes. Most of them ate fairly well. They were raised on a farm and ate lots of veggies, meat, eggs, lard, butter and fat off the meat. Now I don't think that this was the cause of their heart problems. I feel strongly it is, that they got away from those good foods and eventually turned to processed, boxed and rich sweets, white flour, high carbs, and bad fats ie: margarines, canola, and shortenings. I'm sure you would agree here. BUT, what I don't understand is, If the cholesterol theory is false, why did they all get clogged arteries that caused strokes and heart disease??? Val, the worst foods for people that are malnourished and tend to have heart problems, strokes, etc. are sugar, high carbs and particularly bad fats and oils, along with all of the toxins in processed foods and grains, seeds, nuts and legumes that are not properly prepared. The body doesn't even make cholesterol from fats however, it makes it from carbs. The major problem with bad fats is that the body uses it to make cell membranes, which makes them weak and flabby, which makes weak hearts, arteries, veins, etc., etc. Healthy cells must be 50% good saturated fats. Go to www.westonaprice.org and start reading articles about the causes of heart disease, or go to The Optimal Diet websites (I don't have time to look up the URLS, but they are in our Links. Dr. Jan K. has been practicing in Poland for over 30 years and he cures heart disease, diabetes, etc. with The Optimal Diet but it has high good saturated fats which are the ratios of protein to fat to carbs I recommend. >The numbers showed high cholestoral in each one. And many had bypasses and arteriorgrams that showed a buildup of plaque and cholesteral. If that is not true about plaque build-up, what did cause this? My one uncle had a stroke and no longer can talk. He was only 60, when he had it, and it was discovered that he had a 90% blockage in his neck arteries. My dad died suddenly of a heart attack and also had high cholesterol. You can see my concern here, and why I'm worried about my family history. Please explain or direct me to some sources to understand this better. I'm a researcher on health issues and need to understand this better. I really try to look at both the medical and alternative health, side of things. And I'm going 80-90% alternative. And I also need to be more convincing to my family about the cholesterol issue. Thank you Bee, and > I'm sorry this is so long. Val You inherit both of your parents " nutritional status " upon conception and DNA is influenced and can be changed by nutrition. Also see www.thincs.org which is a group of doctors and others who do not believe in the cholesterol theory. Dr. Uffe Ravnkov wrote the book Cholesterol Myths. Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 > > > Bee, the question I have concerns cholesterol. I know and have read the things that you have written about the theory of the medical beliefs on this. Well, I need to know what you feel is causing people to have heart attacks and hardening of the arteries. The reason I ask is that this has been running rampent in our family for years. My mother comes from a large family and all of her brothers and sisters have had heart problems, strokes, many have died young, did not smoke, were not overweight, nor did any of them have diabetes. Most of them ate fairly well. They were raised on a farm and ate lots of veggies, meat, eggs, lard, butter and fat off the meat. Now I don't think that this was the cause of their heart problems. I feel strongly it is, that they got away from those good foods and eventually turned to processed, boxed and rich sweets, white flour, high carbs, and bad fats ie: margarines, canola, and shortenings. I'm sure you would agree here. BUT, what I don't > understand is, If the cholesterol theory is false, why did they all get clogged arteries that caused strokes and heart disease??? Hi Val, we really could be sisters. I have the same history of heart problems in my family. My gr-parents and mom when growing up lived on a farm and ate all those good fresh foods, fresh pork and beef etc. Plus my grandpa was a commercial fisherman and they had lots of fresh fish. I do not think at that time they were eating much if any processed foods. I know home-baked goods were consumed but I'm sure nothing like the sugar and junk people eat today. And all the way back to the 1700s on my mom's maternal side of the family they were falling over from heart attacks. I have 5 bro and sis and only 1 has never had high cholesterol. The other 4 all have had either bypasses or angioplasty. The fact that the 1 whose cholesterol has always been low has not had any of the heart problems enforces the belief to me that it does play a part. This 1 is not a healthy eater either - lots and lots of sweets and saturated fatty foods and overweight. So this has been a big concern for me too and it is the reason I went on the low-fat/high carb diet years ago (thinking that was the healthy choice) and started taking lots of supplements that are beneficial to good heart health. Course I kept going on and off the diet. I'm still uncertain that eating all these fatty meats & butter, etc are really good for my heart. But the fact that so many other physical ailments I was having have gone away since I've been on this diet makes me feel that it's got to be doing good. I need to read up on some of Bee's recommendations and do some further research so I can really put this to rest for me. But I know exactly how you feel. If I find any good reference material, I'll pass it along to you. Sorry you had such a bad couple of days and hope things are getting better for you now. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Thanks Debby for takiing the time to help me. I am feeling better, except for the cold. I could not go home that day as I do private duty and no one else to call in. I had to tough it out and I'm so glad that day is behind me. I've had a couple of 12 hour shifts this week though. I'm trying to be more prepared and keep food in my car. I'm glad for the cooler weather, so I don't have to worry about things cooking in the car. Canned meats are great. And I just so happen to have some homeaide beef jerky. I hope it keeps long. I made it before my trip out west in July. It still tastes ok. Val Debby Padilla-Hudson <debbypadilla@...> wrote: --- Mehner <valiegal50@...> wrote: > What happened to me on Friday set me off. I fixed > a big bag of candida safe foods for breakfast, > lunch, and supper as I knew that I would be leaving Hi again Val.. I'm not Bee, but I hope you don't mind me responding to this message. It sounds like you had a really difficult challenge on friday. I had something similar happen to me when I was in bed for three days with a migraine. My days always start with planning and cooking my food for the day. But with the migraine I didn't eat for three days, and when I finally barely stumbled out of bed starving, I wasn't up to cooking and ate some processed meat and fruit because it was easy to grab. After that experience I realized that I need to have a back up plan, because for me eating this way is a very important thing. oing off plan even just a little means cravings, terrible physical symptoms for a long period of time, so I use strategies to support myself. So what I did was cook up some chicken and green beans in coconut oil and stick it in the fridge. So now, all I would have to do is stick that in the toaster oven, no real cooking (or energy required). I also plan to stock up on canned meat and veggies (better than processed foods) in case of emergency or disaster. I know this wouldn't help in your situation but here's another idea specific to you. Maybe you can make yourself some homemade beef jerky (ask if you need an oven recipe - I can send to you) and keep it in your car. Or perhaps some canned meat and veggies and a can opener in you car. This way if something happens to your food again you have a back up. One time my son knocked my food onto the floor and I had to cook it again.. good thing it was a weekend. I have found for me it is so critical I stay on plan I have all sorts of strategies and back up plans just in case. If I were in that situation I would have said I'm not feeling well, I need to go home. Or I would have said I have severe wheat allergies and I need to go get some appropriate food. Or I'm diabetic and I can't eat all that sugar or I will get sick. I would have probably cancelled one of my appts. But that's just me, I don't know what your work situation is. Eating this way is a huge priority for me and maybe it's selfish but I can't take care of others when I'm sick. So if I have to put other people off to take care of myself I do. > Bee, the question I have concerns cholesteral. I > know and have read the things that you have written > about the theory of the medical beliefs on this. I have similar concerns although I have no problem believing cholesterol is a non-issue. My concerns about cholesterol were more because even though I don't care about the issue, I know others do, and I'd love to be able to hold up my results and wave them in their face. They are much better than they used to be but still need some work. I figure if I eat this way with lots of fat and my good cholesterol goes up and bad cholesterol goes down, that's good enough. If it doesn't, it won't change the way I am eating, because I don't need any convincing that this is the way I should eat. Just how good I feel and the results I've gotten with my weight and health are proof enough for me. As far as why you have family members that had cholesterol in their arteries, let me give you an analogy. What do you put in your engine when you want to lubricate it? Oil right? Now what happens if you put sugar in your engine. It gets sticky and gums up right? Well your body works very much the same way. The more sugar you put in your body, the more it makes the oil in your body sticky, and it sticks and clogs the arteries. You must have oil to lubricate your body. Hormones are created from cholesterol, 70 or 80 percent (never remember the exact figure) of your brain is cholesterol, your skin needs it, etc. What you don't need is sugar.. your body can create all the sugar it needs, which isn't much. Hope this helps some Val.. hang in there.. Luv, Debby San , CA It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves into a new action. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Thanks Gail, for your response. Yes, I'm feeling better now. I've been working alot and could not get back to everyone till tonight. It is late. 2:00 in the morning. So I need to get to bed. I have a head cold now and feel run down, but at least the chest thing cleared up. Everything you wrote, sounds alot like my family. So naturally we would have our concerns about cholesterol. I plan to read up on all the stuff I printed from the files to better understand. I know that I worried about all the fats also, in the beginning. But, I really did feel good on them. I noticed that all my fibromyalgia and arthritis cleared up while on the diet and following strickly. I think that it was lubricating my joints and muscles. Now I'm trying hard to get back to it and always try to take things slow, so I won't have too much die off. Boy, if my doctor knew how much saturated fats I eat, I'm sure I'd get a lecture. As a diabetic, I've been warned alot of the dangers of those fats. I took the class for diabetics, and always felt that with my studying over the years on natural health, that the American Diabetes Assoc. has it all wrong. They recommend way too many carbs and it is causing people to turn to the drugs and insulin. I really think that is the plan with their diet. Take care and hang in there. Keep in touch! Val Now I don't think that this was the cause of their heart problems. I feel strongly it is, that they got away from those good foods and eventually turned to processed, boxed and rich sweets, white flour, high carbs, and bad fats ie: margarines, canola, and shortenings. I'm sure you would agree here. BUT, what I don't > understand is, If the cholesterol theory is false, why did they all get clogged arteries that caused strokes and heart disease??? Hi Val, we really could be sisters. I have the same history of heart problems in my family. My gr-parents and mom when growing up lived on a farm and ate all those good fresh foods, fresh pork and beef etc. Plus my grandpa was a commercial fisherman and they had lots of fresh fish. I do not think at that time they were eating much if any processed foods. I know home-baked goods were consumed but I'm sure nothing like the sugar and junk people eat today. And all the way back to the 1700s on my mom's maternal side of the family they were falling over from heart attacks. I have 5 bro and sis and only 1 has never had high cholesterol. The other 4 all have had either bypasses or angioplasty. The fact that the 1 whose cholesterol has always been low has not had any of the heart problems enforces the belief to me that it does play a part. This 1 is not a healthy eater either - lots and lots of sweets and saturated fatty foods and overweight. So this has been a big concern for me too and it is the reason I went on the low-fat/high carb diet years ago (thinking that was the healthy choice) and started taking lots of supplements that are beneficial to good heart health. Course I kept going on and off the diet. I'm still uncertain that eating all these fatty meats & butter, etc are really good for my heart. But the fact that so many other physical ailments I was having have gone away since I've been on this diet makes me feel that it's got to be doing good. I need to read up on some of Bee's recommendations and do some further research so I can really put this to rest for me. But I know exactly how you feel. If I find any good reference material, I'll pass it along to you. Sorry you had such a bad couple of days and hope things are getting better for you now. Gail --------------------------------- All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 --- Mehner <valiegal50@...> wrote: > I could not go > home that day as I do private duty and no one else > to call in. I had to tough it out and I'm so glad > that day is behind me. I had a feeling that was the situation. Sometimes I get in situations where it is difficult to get my food cooked too. That's why I keep emergency food in the fridge. I was just thinking just in case something happens in the future, just make sure you keep stuff in the car so you won't be in that situation again. I know it must have been tough. Luv, Debby San , CA It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves into a new action. My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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