Re: CR advisable for autoimmune disease?

[Guest guest]

: how old are you? How tall are you? What do you now weigh? Did you

lose the weight fast or slow? All such facts are relevant.

Yes, CR and even just ON should benefit auto-immune diseases just as Walford

states in BT120Y diet.

on 12/1/2003 10:42 PM, gn_montag at armadllo@... wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I have been a long-time reader of this list, without much to

> contribute. I do appreciate having this resource. Have been

> interested in CR for over 3 years since using the ON guidelines in

> Walford's book to lose over 100 lbs. I am now no longer obese (bmi

> 24), get regular cardio and consider myself relatively fit, and am

> still " ONing "

>

> I realize that CR is kind of a new science, and there's not data out

> there to cover every health scenario, but I was hoping to get some

> opinions about a question I have:

>

> I've been sick for about 5 months with a kind of

> rashy/arthritis/fatigue kind of thing and my doctors are stumped but

> think that it could possibly be the beginnings of some type of

> autoimmune disease like Lupus or Rheumatoid Arthritis. My question

> is, if that turned out to be the case, would CR likely improve or

> exacerbate the condition? I have read that certain autoimmune

> conditions like Schleroderma are sometimes benefited by a low-calorie,

> low protein diet. My wife and I had planned to start CR in earnest at

> the beginning of 2004 as a resolution. Since I had read that CR is a

> booster of the immune system, I was wondering if it would in fact be a

> good choice for me.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

P.S. to : Have you added any new foods to your diet in the last 5

months? Examples might be certain nuts, flax seeds or other CRON/exotic

food that you didn't eat before? For example, a couple of years ago, I

added a Brazil nut a day to my diet because of the health benefits of

selenium. I was fine at first, but after a few months, I began to get a

slight rash on my arms. The rash got worse and worse until I finally

figured out (myself) that I was allergic to the nuts. I almost wound up in

the hospital. By the time I figured out what the problem was, I was

completely swollen all over and was on steroids.

on 12/2/2003 7:57 AM, Francesca Skelton at fskelton@... wrote:

>> I've been sick for about 5 months with a kind of

>> rashy/arthritis/fatigue kind of thing and my doctors are stumped but

>> think that it could possibly be the beginnings of some ty

[Guest guest]

could be negatively affected by all that fish oil, which conveys a huge

amount of vitamin A. Peg

[Guest guest]

I am 34 years old. 5'11 " tall. I now weigh approximately 170 lbs. I

lost the weight over a period of about 15 months. I know slower would

have been better, but I had other concerns such as hypertension and

diabetes. BP is now normal (about 110/65, pulse 55 whenever it's

checked), as is blood sugar (usually in the 90's). I am on no

prescription medications. As for supplements I currently take a

multivitamin, 400 iu vitamin e, and 6g of fish oil, 1800 mg of

curcumin for mild arthritis in my spine. Although I have taken those

supplements for over 3 years, I went off all of them for nearly a

month to see if it made any difference in my condition. It didn't. I

try and get everything else I need from a low-glycemic, mostly whole

foods diet consisting of a wide variety of vegetables both cooked and

raw, legumes, small amount of whole grains and nuts and seeds, lower

g.i. fruit, some egg whites, fish and poultry, plus a little lean red

meat maybe once a week. I get maybe 1800 calories on an average day.

Exercise is between 30 min and an hour of cardio 5 times a week,

along with a little weight training.

Had read BT120Y diet/Anti Aging Plan several years ago. Couldn't

remember if he mentioned auto-immune disease.

Thanks!

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > I have been a long-time reader of this list, without much to

> > contribute. I do appreciate having this resource. Have been

> > interested in CR for over 3 years since using the ON guidelines in

> > Walford's book to lose over 100 lbs. I am now no longer obese (bmi

> > 24), get regular cardio and consider myself relatively fit, and am

> > still " ONing "

> >

> > I realize that CR is kind of a new science, and there's not data out

> > there to cover every health scenario, but I was hoping to get some

> > opinions about a question I have:

> >

> > I've been sick for about 5 months with a kind of

> > rashy/arthritis/fatigue kind of thing and my doctors are stumped but

> > think that it could possibly be the beginnings of some type of

> > autoimmune disease like Lupus or Rheumatoid Arthritis. My question

> > is, if that turned out to be the case, would CR likely improve or

> > exacerbate the condition? I have read that certain autoimmune

> > conditions like Schleroderma are sometimes benefited by a low-calorie,

> > low protein diet. My wife and I had planned to start CR in earnest at

> > the beginning of 2004 as a resolution. Since I had read that CR is a

> > booster of the immune system, I was wondering if it would in fact be a

> > good choice for me.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Nothing I can really think of. Did increase my consumption of red

tea. So maybe I'll try cutting that out for a while. I do know that

I can't tolerate flaxseed. It's a shame because I really liked the

fat-free cottage cheese and flax snack someone on here suggested.

Whenever I ate it in any quantity, I got peculiar sensations of heat

running down my limbs. That was enough to put me off of it!

>

> >> I've been sick for about 5 months with a kind of

> >> rashy/arthritis/fatigue kind of thing and my doctors are stumped but

> >> think that it could possibly be the beginnings of some ty

[Guest guest]

: you're very young for any arthritic conditions. Is this your family

history?

I don't think a month is long enough to go off of your supplements. I would

think at least 6 weeks or even more would be better. Personally the only

supplement I now take is melatonin - preferring to get my nutrients from

diet.

Have you tried ginger? It's an anti-inflammatory and sometimes recommended

for arthritis.. Read Dr Weil's website and books for some unorthodox (and

harmless) possible remedies such as ginger.

on 12/2/2003 8:03 PM, gn_montag at armadllo@... wrote:

>

> I am 34 years old. 5'11 " tall. I now weigh approximately 170 lbs. I

> lost the weight over a period of about 15 months. I know slower would

> have been better, but I had other concerns such as hypertension and

> diabetes. BP is now normal (about 110/65, pulse 55 whenever it's

> checked), as is blood sugar (usually in the 90's). I am on no

> prescription medications. As for supplements I currently take a

> multivitamin, 400 iu vitamin e, and 6g of fish oil, 1800 mg of

> curcumin for mild arthritis in my spine. Although I have taken those

> supplements for over 3 years, I went off all of them for nearly a

> month to see if it made any difference in my condition. It didn't. I

> try and get everything else I need from a low-glycemic, mostly whole

> foods diet consisting of a wide variety of vegetables both cooked and

> raw, legumes, small amount of whole grains and nuts and seeds, lower

> g.i. fruit, some egg whites, fish and poultry, plus a little lean red

> meat maybe once a week. I get maybe 1800 calories on an average day.

> Exercise is between 30 min and an hour of cardio 5 times a week,

> along with a little weight training.

> Had read BT120Y diet/Anti Aging Plan several years ago. Couldn't

> remember if he mentioned auto-immune disease.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>>

>>> Hello,

>>>

>>> I have been a long-time reader of this list, without much to

>>> contribute. I do appreciate having this resource. Have been

>>> interested in CR for over 3 years since using the ON guidelines in

>>> Walford's book to lose over 100 lbs. I am now no longer obese (bmi

>>> 24), get regular cardio and consider myself relatively fit, and am

>>> still " ONing "

>>>

>

>>> I realize that CR is kind of a new science, and there's not data out

>>> there to cover every health scenario, but I was hoping to get some

>>> opinions about a question I have:

>>>

>>> I've been sick for about 5 months with a kind of

>>> rashy/arthritis/fatigue kind of thing and my doctors are stumped but

>>> think that it could possibly be the beginnings of some type of

>>> autoimmune disease like Lupus or Rheumatoid Arthritis. My question

>>> is, if that turned out to be the case, would CR likely improve or

>>> exacerbate the condition? I have read that certain autoimmune

>>> conditions like Schleroderma are sometimes benefited by a low-calorie,

>>> low protein diet. My wife and I had planned to start CR in earnest at

>>> the beginning of 2004 as a resolution. Since I had read that CR is a

>>> booster of the immune system, I was wondering if it would in fact be a

>>> good choice for me.

>>>

>>> Thanks!

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

What an inspiring success story. Where does your strength and

your motivation come from?

You are going to help a lot of us succeed.

Keep teaching us your secrets, please!

-- Warren

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On 02 Dec 2003, wrote:

>

> I am 34 years old. 5'11 " tall. I now weigh approximately 170 lbs. I

> lost the weight over a period of about 15 months. I know slower would

> have been better, but I had other concerns such as hypertension and

> diabetes. BP is now normal (about 110/65, pulse 55 whenever it's

> checked), as is blood sugar (usually in the 90's). I am on no

> prescription medications. As for supplements I currently take a

> multivitamin, 400 IU vitamin e, and 6g of fish oil, 1800 mg of

> curcumin for mild arthritis in my spine. Although I have taken those

> supplements for over 3 years, I went off all of them for nearly a

> month to see if it made any difference in my condition. It didn't. I

> try and get everything else I need from a low-glycemic, mostly whole

> foods diet consisting of a wide variety of vegetables both cooked and

> raw, legumes, small amount of whole grains and nuts and seeds, lower

> g.i. fruit, some egg whites, fish and poultry, plus a little lean red

> meat maybe once a week. I get maybe 1800 calories on an average day.

> Exercise is between 30 min and an hour of cardio 5 times a week,

> along with a little weight training.

> Had read BT120Y diet/Anti Aging Plan several years ago. Couldn't

> remember if he mentioned auto-immune disease.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Francesca: Thanks for the suggestions. Yes, there is a family

history of arthritis on my mother's side. Particularly in the spine.

I get a lot of fresh ginger in my diet and like the powder in hot

beverages. Reading Dr. Weil's 8 Weeks to Optimum Health got me

started on that. I'll consider a longer hiatus from supplementation.

> : you're very young for any arthritic conditions. Is this your

family

> history?

>

> I don't think a month is long enough to go off of your supplements.

I would

> think at least 6 weeks or even more would be better. Personally the

only

> supplement I now take is melatonin - preferring to get my nutrients from

> diet.

>

> Have you tried ginger? It's an anti-inflammatory and sometimes

recommended

> for arthritis.. Read Dr Weil's website and books for some

unorthodox (and

> harmless) possible remedies such as ginger.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks. Hadn't considered that. Will take a longer break from all

supplements and see what happens.

> could be negatively affected by all that fish oil, which

conveys a huge

> amount of vitamin A. Peg

[Guest guest]

Thanks Warren,

I used to have a irrational disregard for my health. I ate whatever I

wanted and led a sedentary life. Maybe some people have the genes to

cope with that lifestyle. I didn't. The path of least resistance led

me to morbid obesity. In September of 2000, I had some kind of a fit

while camping. That resulted in seeing doctors and having tests. I

realized then I had made myself pretty sick and was almost certainly

cutting my life short. I made kind of a pact with myself that I'd

never again do anything or participate in any lifestyle that would

intentionally damage my health. Then I set out to better educate

myself about health and nutrition. Walford's book was one of the

first that I read. Not being debilitated by obesity is a great

freedom that I don't take for granted. Obesity, diabetes, arthritis

and hypertension are prominent in my family history and I have a big

impetus to try to offset the effects of those any way I can. My wife

has been very supportive and adopted this philosophy with me. She's

also in better health now. Sure the grocery bill is much higher. We

spend a lot more time chopping vegetables and cooking. But it's been

worth every dollar and minute. Life's too precious to squander

because fast/junk food is convenient or smells good!

> >

> > I am 34 years old. 5'11 " tall. I now weigh approximately 170 lbs. I

> > lost the weight over a period of about 15 months. I know slower would

> > have been better, but I had other concerns such as hypertension and

> > diabetes. BP is now normal (about 110/65, pulse 55 whenever it's

> > checked), as is blood sugar (usually in the 90's). I am on no

> > prescription medications.