Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 In a message dated 4/11/00 4:58:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mhorten@... writes: << Has anyone ever heard about EMDR? I can't remember the exact name but it >> Dear Mona, EMDR is eye movement desensitization retraining(?) and there is a book you can get on it, available probably in most bookstores. It is an attempt to reach the limbic area of the brain, which stores trauma and does not interface with the logical areas--hence we get " stuck " in certain patterns that do not respond to talk therapy, etc. It works, supposedly, when the rapid eye movements, accomplished with the aid of the therapist's fingers, or a flashing light machine, bridge the gap between the two areas of the brain, allowing our stored traumas to " open up " to our reasoning, thinking mind. I went for a series of treatments this past summer to address some childhood traumas. It did not work for me, but this doesn't mean it won't work for others. AntJoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 Dear Mona, They have info and discussion also, I think, on EMDR on the Internet. AntJoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 Thanks for the info. I wonder what the success rate is? I'd like to talk someone that was treated and responded well. Thanx again. Mona Re: Emotions In a message dated 4/11/00 4:58:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mhorten@... writes: << Has anyone ever heard about EMDR? I can't remember the exact name but it >> Dear Mona, EMDR is eye movement desensitization retraining(?) and there is a book you can get on it, available probably in most bookstores. It is an attempt to reach the limbic area of the brain, which stores trauma and does not interface with the logical areas--hence we get " stuck " in certain patterns that do not respond to talk therapy, etc. It works, supposedly, when the rapid eye movements, accomplished with the aid of the therapist's fingers, or a flashing light machine, bridge the gap between the two areas of the brain, allowing our stored traumas to " open up " to our reasoning, thinking mind. I went for a series of treatments this past summer to address some childhood traumas. It did not work for me, but this doesn't mean it won't work for others. AntJoan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Whatever you want, chances are you'll find it at one of the hundreds of sites in The PointClick Network--like Disney.com, eCost.com, FogDog.com and many more. You get paid as you shop and an additional 10% off any purchase, anytime. 1/2994/7/_/6563/_/955491454/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2000 Report Share Posted April 12, 2000 I am supposed to go through this type of therapy in my sessions with my counselor. I am improving daily now with talk therapy, and so are all my skin rashes, food sensitivities etc. I still believe very strongly in the mind/body connection. I would like to take a poll among us and ask how many in the group have experienced childhood trauma? I'll bet it is at least half of us... Sheri Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2000 Report Share Posted April 12, 2000 I would bet you're right. I believe in the mind-body connection as well and to that end have started seeing a hynotherapist to help me in healing those parts that haven't been healed. Lynn Re: Emotions I am supposed to go through this type of therapy in my sessions with my counselor. I am improving daily now with talk therapy, and so are all my skin rashes, food sensitivities etc. I still believe very strongly in the mind/body connection. I would like to take a poll among us and ask how many in the group have experienced childhood trauma? I'll bet it is at least half of us... Sheri Lynn ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get paid for the stuff you know! Get answers for the stuff you don’t. And get $10 to spend on the site! 1/2200/7/_/6563/_/955543280/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2000 Report Share Posted April 12, 2000 Hi Sheri Lynn - This childhood trauma poll sounds like an interesting idea. Not sure if you were asking for the actual stories or not. I'm also not sure whether this would be considered childhood trauma, but for what it's worth: When I was a toddler (weird, but I can remember small blips of this period) my parents had to devote most of their time to my younger brother who was not expected to live because of a serious heart defect he was born with. My parents would not opt for open heart surgery because it was still so very risky in the early 50's, especially for an infant. It was their heartbreaking choice to bring him home and care for him the best they could. I think I may have resented feeling " left out " even tho I'm certain my wonderful parents did all they could for me as well. He needed constant attention because he was extremely weak, and couldn't even sit up on his own at 18 mos of age. He died at home when he was 22 months. Every family member suffered tremendously, but I was too young to understand what was really going on. I thought for years that I had helped to kill him because I resented him and of all the attention he seemed to be getting. However, I understand it now and have learned to deal with it. Hope this helps some - Best wishes to all, Chris > I am supposed to go through this type of therapy in my sessions with my > counselor. > I am improving daily now with talk therapy, and so are all my skin rashes, > food sensitivities etc. I still believe very strongly in the mind/body > connection. > > I would like to take a poll among us and ask how many in the group have > experienced childhood trauma? I'll bet it is at least half of us... > > Sheri Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2000 Report Share Posted April 12, 2000 Sheri, In answer to your poll, the answer is yes....if you want more particulars let me know I can provide them. It would be interesting to see the results of this poll. Thanks, Carolann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2000 Report Share Posted April 12, 2000 Dear Sheri Lynn, As I indicated earlier, I experienced childhood trauma (count me as a definite " yes " !). AntJoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2000 Report Share Posted April 12, 2000 Dear Shari Lynn, Yes, count me in as Hypo/Childhood trauma. J in VT +====>>>>>>=====>>>>>>>>........<<<<<<<<<=======<<<<<<<<==========+ " Truth is a shining goddess, always veiled, always distant, never wholly approachable, but worthy of all the devotion of which the human spirit is capable. " Bertrand +====>>>>>>=====>>>>>>>>........<<<<<<<<<=======<<<<<<<<==========+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 Maybe it is not so much what has happened to us as children, but how we perceived the disruption, internalized it, and later in life, acted out the problem by becoming ill ourselves like the child that still needs the attention to fill the inner void. The mind never forgets and can carry excess baggage that can sabotage us as adults which makes more stress and results in illness...I am convinced the rat story posted has a lot to tell us, if we have a strong mental foundation, the immune system should be better able to defend us. I think therapy along with all the other good things we all must do can accelerate the healing process. Sheri Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 Carolann, Thank for responding, I would ask if your emotional disruption began in childhood? Sheri Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 Childhood trauma? hmmmm, don't think I had anything out of the ordinary... how young are you talking about? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 As young as you can remember and usually never forget it either...Sheri Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 Yes, that would count! Childhood is meant to be carefree, fun, filled with happy warm memories, it is not suppose to be a stressful event in the least. I think you have some deep memories you need to bring out of hiding, and see if you can heal; become healthier. I know it is working for me. Sheri Lynn P.S. Get the book " Toxic Parents " see if you can identify and Bradshaw's book, " Home Coming. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 What is entire childhood was stressful? Does that count as tramatic experience? Re: Emotions As young as you can remember and usually never forget it either...Sheri Lynn ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free E-Cards, Screensavers, and Digital Pictures! Corbis.com: 1/3358/7/_/6563/_/955650552/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2000 Report Share Posted April 14, 2000 I work with people who come to clinic who are ugly-yeh I know physical ugliness when I see it-and I talk to them to see if they are mentally well off-often they are and I am surprised but pleasantly surprised. The philosophy I developed after being told as an adolescent that people get what is coming to them and these events are karma is this: It takes great courage to live in this world where even the family members will ambush and betray on a daily basis and call that a ways to the means of building confidence and self- defense. It takes great courage to be beaten up and face others who are judging you who don't know you weren't asking for it. It takes great courage to choose to come into this world to play a part of victim and watch the world sneer at you. It takes great courage to have Graves, a disease that is isolating because no one can see your heart racing and breathlessness. I actually imagine the folks I see as great generals and heros/heroins of an ancient era with great values and courage who have come to this society to play the role of being looked down upon and forgotten. It takes greater courage to be humbled after greatness. Swan On 13 Apr 00, at 13:49, Horten, Mona wrote: What is entire childhood was stressful? Does that count as tramatic experience? Re: Emotions As young as you can remember and usually never forget it either...Sheri Lynn ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free E-Cards, Screensavers, and Digital Pictures! Corbis.com: 1/3358/7/_/6563/_/955650552/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1.6 Million Digital Images! Download one Today from Corbis.com 1/3356/7/_/6563/_/955658993/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2000 Report Share Posted April 17, 2000 I missd something?! What poll? I want to participate. --kathleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2000 Report Share Posted April 18, 2000 Just asking how many of us have experienced childhood trauma...many have in this group and have thyroid problems. Sheri Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2000 Report Share Posted April 18, 2000 > This childhood trauma poll sounds like an interesting idea. You mean like growing up with a single mother before single mothers existed? Being beaten so often your older sister had to hide you in the closet until your mother calmed down? How about running with a street gang for four years? Gee, and I thought I was one of the lucky ones..... ;-) Me. -- It does not require many words to speak the truth. - Chief ph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2000 Report Share Posted April 18, 2000 So sad, I am afraid you would qualify. I think we internalize our pain and get sick physically. I think a good counselor can really help. Sheri Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2000 Report Share Posted April 18, 2000 Hi, I took a personality test yesterday at the career education class in order to help me focus on a career. It was right on the mark. I do NEED quiet when I work. I need to work in a group of respectful/respected individuals. And I do become physically ill when I am criticized too often and in fact, I respond to approval in a positive way. Interestingly, I have never-NEVER-been criticized the way I was at the job I became unfunctional at with Graves. Employers, even the ones who thought I was 'odd' thought I was very productive, assertive, and eager was the best part of my personality. My heart actually wells up to my throat as I think of her image. So I won't. I am sensitive in how others are treated and I definitely expect respect toward me whether someone is like me or not. And I think having several different types of people is a good thing. Swan On 18 Apr 00, at 20:36, bpicker2@... wrote: So sad, I am afraid you would qualify. I think we internalize our pain and get sick physically. I think a good counselor can really help. Sheri Lynn ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Whatever you want, chances are you'll find it at one of the hundreds of sites in The PointClick Network--like Disney.com, eCost.com, FogDog.com and many more. You get paid as you shop and an additional 10% off any purchase, anytime. 1/2994/7/_/6563/_/956104829/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2000 Report Share Posted April 19, 2000 " SELF " is the first step in becoming stronger, and you not only need to be respected, it becomes the first requirement in any ongoing relationship. You cannot fix them, they can only repay you through their deeds if they are humble enough to do so... Sheri Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2000 Report Share Posted April 19, 2000 INclude me in childhood trauma poll. Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2000 Report Share Posted April 19, 2000 You can include me, also. I think I could write a three inch novel! debspiritwalker@... wrote: > INclude me in childhood trauma poll. > Deb > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > 1/2885/7/_/6563/_/956175767/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2000 Report Share Posted April 19, 2000 please include me as well...I guess all of our stories might make for an interesting novel. Thanks, Carolann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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