Re: Re: Dr, Jeckel and Mr, Hyde cheating and after effects

[Guest guest]

So my cheating seems to happen the same time every night, and I can not figure

out why. Other than some coffee drinking with a spot of cream or goat milk, I

can follow the diet perfectly every day and almost every day I do! I can go to

business lunches and just have a piece of meat, some vegies and or salid and for

dinner I am fine. Then around 10 or 11 I go to sleep and then at like Midnight

or 1am I get up like a zombie and go into my kitchen and eat like crap, in every

since of that phraze. Mostly Dairy like a whole quart of whipping cream or 1/2

gallon of ice cream, or a box of gram crackers and then I the Zombie go back to

bed. The only time I do not do this is if I am in a hotel where I am fine! I

did do this diet for like 12 weeks and felt great, but I can not seem to get

back on it! Help? What is up with me? Also my second question is am I

wasting my time on diet if I am cheating at night? Is all the good I have done

undone? To ask that question

another way, I have cut and pasted someone elses question that seems to not

have been answsered:::

So what happened? Did that splurge increase the candida levels in my

>body that much? Did I completely ruin any progress I had made up until

>then?

Thanks, Bob.

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[Guest guest]

If it was that easy, I have a 30 year old son, a roommate and at times a wife

and 4 step kids that live with me!

Bob

O <mike225@...> wrote:

Yes welll I havnt had any ice cream in my house or any sweet of any kind for

close on 10 years now .... & I dont miss sweets in the slightest.

[Guest guest]

Yes, i have read the file and I think my last post that pointed out that I live

with up to 8 people most of whom will have nothing to do with this diet explains

why I can stay on this with no problem when I am on the road! I am also fine

with a kitchen full of cakes, breads and cooked rice dishes and by the way, my

30 year old son has been a chef in 4 star restaurants and he cooks all day.

For dinner every night I eat a program meal, small steak, wild salmon add

coconut oil and all organic vegies, hcl and perhaps some cod liver oil and I eat

sourkrut with everymeal. Truth is I am good from 6am till 1AM. Then after I

have been sleeping most nights from 1 to 2 hours, I get up and it is almost like

sleep walking and go into kitchen and go crazy. Hey one night it was 3 bottle

of baby formula and it is mostly dairy related from ice cream, to one night 2

quarts of whipping cream. A homupathic nuturpath friend of mine seems to think

that there is something that is not

on the diet that I crave that I may need and my subconsciaus is forcing me to

eat??? I just do not know!

jeccajay <jeccajay@...> wrote: Hi Bob,

Bee has a some great info on cheating and cravings, have you read it

yet? http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/help3.php

I must say though, I agree with Doug's advice, if you remove the

temptation, out of sight, out of mind, right? Well, at least more out

of mind than if its right there on hand. Removing those bad foods

might make things easier on you.

Also, I was wondering, when do you eat in the evening, and what do you

eat? If you wake up that hungry in the middle of the night, maybe a

bigger meal (with much more fat to sustain you through the night)

closer to bed time would help eliviate the hunger you feel when you

wake up.

And are you following the ratios and taking all the supplements?

The ratios, especially the fat, help make up for the lack of energy

from carbs, so if you are not eating enough fat, by the middle of the

night, your body would be starving.

As for the supplements, hunger sometimes is a response to being low on

certain nutrients and vitamins. Your body can push you to eat, until

it gets the nutrients it needs. So if you are eating foods low in

those nutrients, your desire to eat may continue for prolonged periods

of time until the need for those nutrients is satiated.

That said, I hope you are not too hard on yourself for cheating. In

my mind, its not a lack of will power, as much as a lack of proper

balanced nutrition in the foods being consumed. Solve that issue, and

I think you will find those cravings more manageable.

In my experience, my urges to cheat usually came from the fact that my

body was trying to figure out a way to tell me it needed something.

When I make an increased effort to eat nutritiously and listen to my

body's HEALTHY cravings (like for more salt, or egg yolks, or

magnesium) I have less cravings for food that can be problematic.

I also have noticed that when I first was on the diet, eating no no

foods, made it more likely that I had cravings for other problematic

foods. So getting on the diet, 100% may be helpful for you too.

Having goat milk or a spot of cream, only sets you up to crave other

foods that can more problematic. Its a slippery slope. In the

morning you may have just a spot of cream, for lunch a glass of goats

milk, and then all of a sudden you are eating a gallon of ice cream at

night. Sometimes, even though daily cheats don't seem problematic,

they have insidious side effects, that sabotage even the best efforts.

That said, I hope you find some relief. It sounds exhausting to get

up and eat that much each night. I can't imagine how frustrating that

must be.

Jecca

--- Bob <thismanwillmakeyousay@...> wrote:

...So my cheating seems to happen the same time every night, and I can

not figure out why. Other than some coffee drinking with a spot of

cream or goat milk, I can follow the diet perfectly every day and

almost every day I do! I can go to business lunches and just have a

piece of meat, some veggies and or salad and for dinner I am fine.

Then around 10 or 11 I go to sleep and then at like Midnight or 1am I

get up like a zombie and go into my kitchen and eat like crap, in

every sense of that phrase. Mostly Dairy like a whole quart of

whipping cream or 1/2 gallon of ice cream, or a box of gram crackers

and then I the Zombie go back to bed. The only time I do not do this

is if I am in a hotel where I am fine! I did do this diet for like 12

weeks and felt great, but I can not seem to get back on it! Help?

What is up with me? Also my second question is am I wasting my time

on diet if I am cheating at night? Is all the good I have done

undone? To ask that question another way, I have cut and pasted

someone else's question that seems to not have been answered. So what

happened? Did that splurge increase the candida levels in my body that

much? Did I completely ruin any progress I had made up until then...

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[Guest guest]

By by your saying " get rid of ice cream and other cheats " in my house to you

mean my roommate, 30 year old son and wife an 4 step kids all of whom I am

enabling by allowing them to stay off the diet when I buy all their food?

Except for the roommate who is the best of all of them, even if he will not take

the time ro read this diet! Not sure if I would kick them out, but it is an

interesting idea!

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[Guest guest]

Bob, have you tried taking more magnesium citrate before going to bed? Years

ago I used to wake up around 1 or 2 AM and would go in the kitchen and dig

in. I didn't have much " bad " food but enough to make me feel bad. Now that I

take 1,000 mg of magnesium citrate at night in addition to the cal-mag, I go

to sleep and next thing I know it's time to get up.

a

>If it was that easy, I have a 30 year old son, a roommate and at times a

wife and 4 step kids that live with me!

>Bob

>O <mike225optusnet (DOT) <mailto:mike225%40optusnet.com.au> com.au>

wrote:

>Yes welll I havnt had any ice cream in my house or any sweet of any kind

for close on 10 years now .... & I dont miss sweets in the slightest.

[Guest guest]

I second that. Or an epsom salts bath before bed helps my sugar cravings.

Irene

At 05:34 AM 1/11/2008, you wrote:

>Bob, have you tried taking more magnesium citrate before going to bed? Years

>ago I used to wake up around 1 or 2 AM and would go in the kitchen and dig

>in. I didn't have much " bad " food but enough to make me feel bad. Now that I

>take 1,000 mg of magnesium citrate at night in addition to the cal-mag, I go

>to sleep and next thing I know it's time to get up.

>

>a

>

> >If it was that easy, I have a 30 year old son, a roommate and at times a

>wife and 4 step kids that live with me!

>

> >Bob

>

> >O <mike225optusnet (DOT) <mailto:mike225%40optusnet.com.au> com.au>

>wrote:

>

> >Yes welll I havnt had any ice cream in my house or any sweet of any kind

>for close on 10 years now .... & I dont miss sweets in the slightest.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Vitamin C is one of those miracle things. I've found it will get rid of

almost all food cravings.

Good luck, Bob! We're here to help you stick with it.

Zack

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Bee wrote:

>

>>

>> If it was that easy, I have a 30 year old son, a roommate and at

> times a wife and 4 step kids that live with me!

>>

>> Bob

>

> ==>Dear Bob. It certainly isn't easy my friend. It IS extremely

> tough for you when you cannot control the foods that are in your

> home. The only way to approach this is from the viewpoint that you

> are addicted. See these articles:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu_2_5_3.php

>

> I suggest you stock up on vitamin C and when you feel that craving

> have the vitamin C bottle hanging in your face on the fridge. Take

> 2,000 mg with water and be determined to go back to bed. If that

> doesn't help in 15 minutes take another 2,000 vitamin C, and so on.

> Vitamin C curbs cravings, but it will take some willpower and

> determination on your part too. Getting healthy is hard work, at

> least at the beginning until you get past the cravings and withdrawal

> symptoms.

>

> You can do this Bob! We are all rooting for you!

>

> Onward and upward my friend!

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

funny but vit c was one tthing I was not doing and with no fruit that may be

what I was craving!

Zack Widup <w9sz@...> wrote:

Vitamin C is one of those miracle things. I've found it will get rid of

almost all food cravings.

Good luck, Bob! We're here to help you stick with it.

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[Guest guest]

So I think the mystery is solved. 1st, I had to read all the post about not

having the food in house to realize how hard it is from me with all the

saboteurs in my home and then we I see the power of that, I can fight it off.

Then I think I was craving vit C, largely due to no fruit and what brought that

home in addition to the email is how of all things I also craved bell peppers

and hot peppers too! I am back on track for 3 days now!

Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> Yes, i have read the file and I think my last post that pointed out

that I live with up to 8 people most of whom will have nothing to do

with this diet explains why I can stay on this with no problem when I

am on the road! I am also fine with a kitchen full of cakes, breads

and cooked rice dishes and by the way, my 30 year old son has been a

chef in 4 star restaurants and he cooks all day. For dinner every

night I eat a program meal, small steak, wild salmon add coconut oil

and all organic vegies, hcl and perhaps some cod liver oil and I eat

sourkrut with everymeal. Truth is I am good from 6am till 1AM.

Then after I have been sleeping most nights from 1 to 2 hours, I get

up and it is almost like sleep walking and go into kitchen and go

crazy. Hey one night it was 3 bottle of baby formula and it is

mostly dairy related from ice cream, to one night 2 quarts of

whipping cream. A homupathic nuturpath friend of mine seems to

think that there is something that is not

> on the diet that I crave that I may need and my subconsciaus is

forcing me to eat??? I just do not know!

==>Bob, if you are taking " all " of the supplements and sticking to

the diet there is nothing else your body needs in order to heal.

Sometimes cravings are caused by a lack of certain nutrients, but on

this program nothing is lacking, if it is followed. No supplements

should be left out, and other supplements are not necessary.

The only way to cure candida is by building up your immune system

with nutrients, which includes eliminating toxins, foods that damage

the body, and foods that feed candida, etc. It is also well-known

that sugars and high carbs feed cancer too. I don't want to scare

you, but if candida is not handled the next step is cancer. See

these articles:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_1_2.php

You are the lucky one. You " know " you have candida and you have a

program which will cure it, while many other people wake up one

morning and they have cancer but they are helpless to do anything

about it.

You know the drill Bob! I encourage and support you completely with

sticking to your gut feelings about this program. Please bite the

bullet and do it.

The best to you, Bee

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[Guest guest]

good confirmaton is that i came to the vit c conclusion before I read this!

Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> If it was that easy, I have a 30 year old son, a roommate and at

times a wife and 4 step kids that live with me!

>

> Bob

==>Dear Bob. It certainly isn't easy my friend. It IS extremely

tough for you when you cannot control the foods that are in your

home. The only way to approach this is from the viewpoint that you

are addicted. See these articles:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu_2_5_3.php

I suggest you stock up on vitamin C and when you feel that craving

have the vitamin C bottle hanging in your face on the fridge. Take

2,000 mg with water and be determined to go back to bed. If that

doesn't help in 15 minutes take another 2,000 vitamin C, and so on.

Vitamin C curbs cravings, but it will take some willpower and

determination on your part too. Getting healthy is hard work, at

least at the beginning until you get past the cravings and withdrawal

symptoms.

You can do this Bob! We are all rooting for you!

Onward and upward my friend!

Bee

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