Guest guest Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 Hi Francesca, Warren and Rodney: I readed the entire paper of Dr. Spindler at PNAS that the Warren cited below in 1999. What Spindler claims is quite surprising: CR imposes imediate changes in gene expression (measured by DNA microarray experiments). The gene expression when CR is imposed, changes to the same patterns seen in youth. CR changes the activity of 11.000 genes and not only delays aging, but partially *reverses* it. But only *partially*. What cames into mind of people affictioned in science, like I am, is that CR may be turning on genes that can potentially reverse aging. The microarray (DNA chip put inside the cell) shows that these genes are off when the cell is producing energy. But are turned on when the cell produces less energy. In other words, the production of energy is something that do little " biochemical hurts " inside the cell and the genes that can potentially recover from these hurts are off when cell is producing energy, that is, hurting itself. When the hurt stops, the miraculous nanorobots of nature (proteins) that are produced by the mRNA trascribed by the genes turned on by CR, begin their work correcting these damages in a very efficient and perfect way. The reconstruction is not perfect: Some information is lost, of course. This is one point: The view of aging as something like " information loss " process. This view can be considered consistent with studies on Hutchinson-Gifford syndrome (cromossomal abnormalities lead to lifespan of 16 years in children). Such syndrome involves lots of information lost. Information loss aging, is rather especulative, but is nonethless plausible, and deserves attention. That may be for example, the reason fasting and EOD feeding can increase lifespan. Not because aging is only retarded, but perhaps because it is even being reversed in such experiments and that is the " exposure to the calories by tissues " that counts, not only calories, calories... The second point is that reversing aging is aways impossible without modifications on the cell's energy production structure : The energy necessary for the *complete* reversion of cells aging is *aways* grater than the energy that the damaged mithocondria can provide. You ask: How can we solve this problem? Possible answer: By nanothecnology. Put extra nanorobots inside the cell. Not only nanorobots that repair structural damage in the cell (what is already done by miraculous reparative proteins) but nanorobots that correct what is making energy production less eficient. What is going wrong for this process happen. The possibility to do this *today* is science fiction, because we just don't know what exactly is going wrong. To acess this we would need an analisis and simulation tool unacessible: Large Scale Computer Data Analisis and Simulation of an ENTIRE cell. The power of computers today (believe me) is yet a bottleneck for real time simulations of the cell, of this kind. But there's hope!! Just stay alive in the next 30-50 and you will see things that no one could imagine when was get born. -- The inspired student Gandhi. http://www.rense.com/general1 __________________________________________________________________________ Acabe com aquelas janelinhas que pulam na sua tela. AntiPop-up UOL - É grátis! http://antipopup.uol.com.br/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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