Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 In a message dated 03/14/2001 1:19:57 PM Central Standard Time, obie2@... writes: << Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's causing the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the additional products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. wrote it's nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us hurt -- nickel that has come in minute quantities over the years from manufacturers' conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans and the stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes enlargement, hardening and pain. Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie.>> ____________________________________________ Obie, My dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer last Nov. Another doctor suspected it due to enlargement and continuing elevation of PSA. I took him for biopsy and the specialist confirmed it. Then we got a bone scan for him...that was clear. The MD told him all the options but dad refused all treatment opting for natural treatment. It's all in his diet. He says he has more energy than in years, all his sinus and allergy problems have gone away. Two weeks ago I took him back for a check up. The doc asked if there were any changes and dad told him his bald spot was filling in. I could tell doc was surprised and delighted. Sure enough when we got the new PSA report it was down from 33 to 11.6. Edith ps the MD wrote dad a letter and told him to stay on what ever diet he had chosen for himself...it seems to be working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 Reduce inflammation, Restore circulation, with Hyperbaric Oxygen, Using Mega vitamins and minerals IV, Also Chelation, using EDTA by IV will help www.hbot4u.com Prostate Pain Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's causing the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the additional products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. wrote it's nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us hurt -- nickel that has come in minute quantities over the years from manufacturers' conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans and the stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes enlargement, hardening and pain. Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 , thanks for your post. Let me reply and ask a question. I don't think I have any inflammation, not bad circulation to my perineum, that I know of, I agree with mega vits and mrls, probably, don't know much about EDTA, but IV, I mean, at the IV docs I'm aware of, it's $85 a pop and 15 to 20 pops. I don't think so, and HOBT, I mean, how does one afford these really high cost treatments? Is this the only way? Obie. Prostate Pain > > > Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a small > amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only assume > it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now but I > assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's causing > the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the additional > products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. wrote it's > nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us hurt -- nickel > that has come in minute quantities over the years from manufacturers' > conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans and the > stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes enlargement, > hardening and pain. > > Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life > without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come > along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 Dear Obie, There is life without your prostate, but it isn't as much fun. The prostate is a prime area for the body to store toxins in. Like any toxic dump, it must be cleaned up. Start with Homozon and work your way up from there. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH Prostate Pain > Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's causing the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the additional products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. wrote it's nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us hurt -- nickel that has come in minute quantities over the years from manufacturers' conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans and the stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes enlargement, hardening and pain. > > Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 Dear Obie, Clean your bowel. Soak your feet in 3% h2o2 making sure that the soles of your feet are exposed to the peroxide. Use one of those foot massager baths as the little tips will keep your soles surrounded by the peroxide. This will oxygenate the body in general and this soak seems to benefit the prostate more particularly. The prostate is a dense organ and is subject to circulation problems a degree or two more severely than other organs. It would be a good idea to bath in water with peroxide in it as well. Do some of the other oxy routines as described on this list. Homozon strikes me as good for you. In the center of the perineum between the anus and the base of the scrotum is a meridian point. Apply pressure to it daily. Get some sunlight especially, else some intense photon energy to that area of your body (as in a heat lamp at an appropriate distance so as to not cause burning). Clean your bowel, dammit. The colon wraps a goodly portion around the prostate. Take Saw Palmetto and Gingko biloba (best together). It would not hurt to begin a regiment of Panax ginseng as well. Work up to at least twice as much Gingko as everybody else says and factor your weight into it. (your weight/150) A swelling of the prostate could be prostatitis, an inflammation of the prostate usually caused by microrganism. Take echinacea, garlic, and astralagus. I would also stop eating sugar as most bugs dine robustly upon the myraid sources of refined sugars we ingest. Do the mucusless diet and avoid pesticides, dyes and other additives, and the white things (sugar, refined starches, table salt, fat from meat (meat in general), and dairy). If you eat meat, observe the restrictions in Leviticus 11--not pork, shellfish, and scaless fish (eg. catfish) AND as fat free as possible. Get your fats from pre-soaked nuts-filberts, almonds, brazils, etc. Not peanuts, which are legumes and not a true nut. Do Kegel exercises. Also, do stretching exercises to loosen up the pelvis--we are looking for blood flow not the buns of steel! ---- Kind regards, K -------- OBIE wrote: > Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a > small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can > only assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally > right now but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if > you know what's causing the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, > it's meat, it's the additional products food manufacturers put in > their products, Dr. wrote it's nickel in the male Prostate, the > female Breast that makes us hurt -- nickel that has come in minute > quantities over the years from manufacturers' conveyor lines and > equipment, our own stainless pots and pans and the stainless tableware > we serve and eat with -- that causes enlargement, hardening and > pain. > > Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing > life without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for > me to come along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding > that? Obie. > > -- Scientists tell us that the fastest animal on earth, with a top speed of 120 ft/sec, is a cow that has been dropped out of a helicopter. -- Dave Berry B R T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 get a good book on cultivating sexual energy....like Mantak Chia's and start energizing your prostate and learn how to keep from deenergizing it. it works Prostate Pain Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's causing the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the additional products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. wrote it's nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us hurt -- nickel that has come in minute quantities over the years from manufacturers' conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans and the stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes enlargement, hardening and pain. Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 > > > Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a > small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only > assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now > but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's > causing the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, In the meantime, while you are reading the dire responses to your post, try some flax seed oil or even some cod liver oil. Can't hurt, and it got me past something similar more than 10 years ago.... Try not to let your fear be fertilized for now. There is plenty of time for that... later. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 Other than oxygen therapies, Dr. Schulze thinks it is toxins from the intestines and bowel and bowel cleansing will help. Call 1-800-HERBDOC and request a free catalog. Also what about the master cleanser? http://www.prostate90.com/ >Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have >a small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I >can only assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening >ocassionally right now but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell >me, please, if you know what's causing the Prostate to enlarge. I >hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the additional products food >manufacturers put in their products, Dr. wrote it's nickel in >the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us hurt -- nickel >that has come in minute quantities over the years from >manufacturers' conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots >and pans and the stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that >causes enlargement, hardening and pain. > >Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing >life without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting >for me to come along, please, and is there, really, any chance of >avoiding that? Obie. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 Dear Obie: I've seen good results with my patients using a combination of 2 tablespoons Barleans Flax/Borage Oil mixed into 1/2 cup cottage cheese or plain unsweetened yogurt, once or twice a day, combined with PolyMVA and Beta Glucan, and topical Progesterone...yes, that's right, I said topical progesterone...the prostate gland is the equivalent of a womens' ovaries, and unopposed estrogen causes enlarged polycystic ovaries, it is also involved in enlarged prostate (BPH)...I'd use it over PCSpes because PCSpes is estrogenic and causes enlargement of the breasts in men...and also, get a home trampoline and just bounce while the news is on or something, 15 min. day to encourage prostate circulation. Hot sitz baths work well too and also cayenne pepper or niacinimide.... My 2 cents for this beautiful morning... Dr.Bormann OBIE wrote: > , thanks for your post. Let me reply and ask a question. I don't > think I have any inflammation, not bad circulation to my perineum, that I > know of, I agree with mega vits and mrls, probably, don't know much about > EDTA, but IV, I mean, at the IV docs I'm aware of, it's $85 a pop and 15 to > 20 pops. I don't think so, and HOBT, I mean, how does one afford these > really high cost treatments? Is this the only way? Obie. > > Prostate Pain > > > > > > Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a > small > > amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only > assume > > it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now but I > > assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's > causing > > the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the additional > > products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. wrote it's > > nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us hurt -- > nickel > > that has come in minute quantities over the years from manufacturers' > > conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans and the > > stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes enlargement, > > hardening and pain. > > > > Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life > > without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to > come > > along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 I forgot in my earlier post that we also use topical application of 5% DMSO solutions rectally also to reduce the pain and swelling. Dr.B. Saul Pressman wrote: > Dear Obie, > > There is life without your prostate, but it isn't as much fun. > > The prostate is a prime area for the body to store toxins in. Like any > toxic dump, it must be cleaned up. Start with Homozon and work your > way up from there. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH > > Prostate Pain > > > Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a > small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only > assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now > but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's > causing the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the > additional products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. > wrote it's nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us > hurt -- nickel that has come in minute quantities over the years from > manufacturers' conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans > and the stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes > enlargement, hardening and pain. > > > > Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life > without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come > along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Obie, I hear fear and resignation in your words. I believe the first step to getting well is learning that we don't have to be resigned to getting sick and dying like others do! We don't! Cutting out body parts is an idiot's answer to disease! Life's little inconveniences called disease are warnings that Destiny sends us to change our ways. We don't have to resign ourselves to get sick unless we are unwilling to change. As for the cost of things to heal, it costs less money and takes less time to clean out than it does to become toxic. It's just that we have spent so long getting sick that it seems expensive to get well. It is cheap at any price. Buy a home ozone sauna or even a HBOT and you STILL have saved money! Plus, you can have health in the bargain! But, there is little positive result to hope for if you put a price on your health, because then you will forego things that would benefit you, and take longer getting to wellness, if you indeed do get there. Changing a life's bad habits and forging new ones is a full-time task for some people. But, if bad habits made us sick, what options do we have. And, how could money be better spent than on your health? I would rather be a healthy pauper than a wealthy sick man. jim OBIE wrote: > > Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's causing the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the additional products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. wrote it's nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us hurt -- nickel that has come in minute quantities over the years from manufacturers' conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans and the stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes enlargement, hardening and pain. > > Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie. > ----- carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 I know some men who have gotten relief from prostate enlargement with 1/8th tsp of progesterone cream daily applied to their " boys " . This was after they had tried numerous other male prostate formulas. Apparently the same estrogen in women that causes breast cancer also causes prostate cancer and progesterone cream raises the levels of the healthy estrogens that are cancer fighters and for some reason, in the process reduces swelling. This is according to Dr. Lee who wrote the best book on women's hormones, " What Your Doctor Might Not Tell You ABout Menopause. " It is not in the book. I actually found that info on the net from a copy of a live interview with him. Sorry I have no idea where it is. Just a thought, Donna Re: Prostate Pain , thanks for your post. Let me reply and ask a question. I don't think I have any inflammation, not bad circulation to my perineum, that I know of, I agree with mega vits and mrls, probably, don't know much about EDTA, but IV, I mean, at the IV docs I'm aware of, it's $85 a pop and 15 to 20 pops. I don't think so, and HOBT, I mean, how does one afford these really high cost treatments? Is this the only way? Obie. Prostate Pain > > > Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a small > amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only assume > it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now but I > assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's causing > the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the additional > products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. wrote it's > nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us hurt -- nickel > that has come in minute quantities over the years from manufacturers' > conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans and the > stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes enlargement, > hardening and pain. > > Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life > without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come > along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Obie wrote: Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a > small amount of sensation in my perineum ------------------------------- After all these posts on prostate, I'm starting to have a small amount of sensation in my perineum too. . . Ha. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Hi, Jim. I don't know, was it fear, resignation? Maybe yesterday it was. I tell ya, I'm starting to wish I wasn't in this California. I'm in San /Santa Clara. And don't think I'm prejudiced, in fact, I know I'm not but I haven't see so many Oriental people since I was in Japan right after the war. These are the nicest people, the most polite folks. When I'm driving here, all I have to do is turn on my indicator, they slow down and let me turn in. Not in Texas. In Texas, they sped up, shoot ya a little hand signal, cuss ya. But I think the retailers are taking advantage of them here. A half gallon of milk and a loaf of bread, $5.25; in Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, $2.80. When I drove out of Texas, my gas was $1.319, here they want $l.819. Been here five weeks, can't wait to get back to Texas. Then I fell helping a neighbor and broke my leg, my employer is taking too many deductions out of my check. Maybe yesterday wasn't the day to respond. I guess when I read a post that indicated this little problem would cost thousands, I mean, IV and Hyperbaric therapy is just outta site for me, I assume; even before I look into it. Tell you what I _did_ do. I got my Alpine Ozone machine out, it's got a negative ion antenae and 3 ozone plates. I turned it on and I'm feeling teriffic right now. Next, I'm going to catalog the responses the list made to me, even IV and HBOT, assign priorities, make tables to check my progress and I'm getting started. I like the way you put things in your post; especially about Destiny. I call Him by another name but that's okay. Destiny and I are friends, close ones, and I'm going to make these little changes. I mean, I changed to a vegetarian in 1976, been healthy all my life. I took the Dale Carnegie Course as a young man and haven't known fear of anything since then. Of course, I've never felt this sensation in my perineum and let my mind wonder to where that's going to take me, either. Now, that _is_ fear. Anyway, wish me luck, remember me when you speak to Destiny and post to me occassionally when you can. I think the world of you, Jim, glad you moderate this list. Thank you for this post. Obie. Re: Prostate Pain > Obie, > > I hear fear and resignation in your words. I believe the first step to > getting well is learning that we don't have to be resigned to getting > sick and dying like others do! We don't! Cutting out body parts is an > idiot's answer to disease! > > Life's little inconveniences called disease are warnings that Destiny > sends us to change our ways. We don't have to resign ourselves to get > sick unless we are unwilling to change. > > As for the cost of things to heal, it costs less money and takes less > time to clean out than it does to become toxic. It's just that we have > spent so long getting sick that it seems expensive to get well. It is > cheap at any price. Buy a home ozone sauna or even a HBOT and you STILL > have saved money! Plus, you can have health in the bargain! > > But, there is little positive result to hope for if you put a price on > your health, because then you will forego things that would benefit you, > and take longer getting to wellness, if you indeed do get there. > > Changing a life's bad habits and forging new ones is a full-time task > for some people. But, if bad habits made us sick, what options do we > have. And, how could money be better spent than on your health? I would > rather be a healthy pauper than a wealthy sick man. > > jim > > OBIE wrote: > > > > Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's causing the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the additional products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. wrote it's nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us hurt -- nickel that has come in minute quantities over the years from manufacturers' conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans and the stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes enlargement, hardening and pain. > > > > Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie. > > > > ----- > carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. 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Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Man, I'm beginning to like the idea; to energize my prostate. But I don't have the slightest idea of how to learn about the subject except by a search of the net. Any chance you'd suggest several arthors or sources? Obie. Prostate Pain > > > Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a > small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only > assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now > but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's > causing the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the > additional products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. > wrote it's nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us > hurt -- nickel that has come in minute quantities over the years from > manufacturers' conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans > and the stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes > enlargement, hardening and pain. > > Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life > without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come > along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Dr. , thanks for the post but how will I be able to accomplish metal reduction, ozone saunas and electrotherapeutic treatment, please? Obie. Prostate Pain > > > Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a small > amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only assume > it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now but I > assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's causing > the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the additional > products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. wrote it's > nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us hurt -- nickel > that has come in minute quantities over the years from manufacturers' > conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans and the > stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes enlargement, > hardening and pain. > > Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life > without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come > along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Donna, maybe you've been playing with the " boys " too much Re: Prostate Pain Obie wrote: Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a > small amount of sensation in my perineum ------------------------------- After all these posts on prostate, I'm starting to have a small amount of sensation in my perineum too. . . Ha. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Mantak Chia.....Cultivating Male sexual energy. Prostate Pain > > > Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a > small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only > assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now > but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's > causing the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the > additional products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. > wrote it's nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us > hurt -- nickel that has come in minute quantities over the years from > manufacturers' conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans > and the stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes > enlargement, hardening and pain. > > Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life > without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come > along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 In a message dated 03/16/2001 1:15:39 PM Central Standard Time, obie2@... writes: << Well, you've worked my curiosity to a peak with this post, Ms. Edith. Did you furnish your Dad's diet, prepare if for him? >> ______________________________ My dad does not live with me but comes to stay for extended times. I took him to a seminar where the speaker had overcome cancer using diet and he stressed lots of digestive enzymes but we could not afford that particular brand so I shopped around and bought what we could. My dad does not live in an area where organic veggies are available (east Texas) and does not have the money for them anyway so I decided he should sprout so he does and also soaks 1 t. of each: wheat, barley, pumpkin seed and flax seed in distilled water for 24 hrs and blends that with a piece of fruit using the water. Takes barleygreen and that type thing several times a day. He takes 25 drops of devils claw, dandelion root, and echinacea tincture in water 4days on...3 off. In the beginning he did a thing with a spoon of dry cottage cheese, 2 grated small beets and a fertile raw egg in the blender every morning for 30 days. We have a friend that recouped from this malady that gave us this tincture and such info. He eats lots of raw things with the sprouts and never eats meat or diary products except for the above 30 day ordeal. I wish you much success!! Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Well, you've worked my curiosity to a peak with this post, Ms. Edith. Did you furnish your Dad's diet, prepare if for him? Re: Prostate Pain > In a message dated 03/14/2001 1:19:57 PM Central Standard Time, obie2@... > writes: > > << Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a > small amount of sensation in my perineum; in fact, any more and I can only > assume it would be slight pain. It's only happening ocassionally right now > but I assume it's going to get worse. Tell me, please, if you know what's > causing the Prostate to enlarge. I hear it's fat, it's meat, it's the > additional products food manufacturers put in their products, Dr. wrote > it's nickel in the male Prostate, the female Breast that makes us hurt -- > nickel that has come in minute quantities over the years from manufacturers' > conveyor lines and equipment, our own stainless pots and pans and the > stainless tableware we serve and eat with -- that causes enlargement, > hardening and pain. > > Also, short of avoiding the above, is there any hope for continuing life > without a Prostate; if it gets down to that? What's waiting for me to come > along, please, and is there, really, any chance of avoiding that? Obie.>> > ____________________________________________ > > Obie, > > My dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer last Nov. Another doctor > suspected it due to enlargement and continuing elevation of PSA. > I took him for biopsy and the specialist confirmed it. Then we got a bone > scan for him...that was clear. The MD told him all the options but dad > refused all treatment opting for natural treatment. It's all in his diet. > He says he has more energy than in years, all his sinus and allergy problems > have gone away. Two weeks ago I took him back for a check up. The doc > asked if there were any changes and dad told him his bald spot was filling in. > I could tell doc was surprised and delighted. Sure enough when we got the > new PSA report it was down from 33 to 11.6. > Edith > ps the MD wrote dad a letter and told him to stay on what ever diet > he had chosen for himself...it seems to be working. > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2001 Report Share Posted March 19, 2001 Sadly, no. Re: Prostate Pain Donna, maybe you've been playing with the " boys " too much Re: Prostate Pain Obie wrote: Well, Listmembers, I think I need to say that I'm beginning to have a > small amount of sensation in my perineum ------------------------------- After all these posts on prostate, I'm starting to have a small amount of sensation in my perineum too. . . Ha. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 i was wondering if anyone has had problems with prostate pain since going on this diet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 > > i was wondering if anyone has had problems with prostate pain since > going on this diet? ==>You can get prostrate pain during the healing process if that area has taken on toxins, or needs repair or rebuilding. Candida toxins could also migrate to that area. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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