niacin flush

[Guest guest]

i was just wondering what a " flush " is. I've been trying to look

for it, but I can't seem to find it in your files bee.

SG

> >

> > Hurray Hurray! I FINALLY had my first Niacin flush yesterday! I

> had to finally up my intake to 400 mgs, broken up into 200 mgs

twice

> a day. I was complaining to my husband earlier in the day about

not

> getting a flush, and about 30 mins after I took my evening 200

mgs,

> it finally happened! It was just slightly uncomfortable, but OMG!

> the after affects where awesome! I could breath so much easier, I

> had tons of energy, AND I was soooooo giddy! I felt like I was on

> speed! I was laughing and joking with my husband on the phone and

he

> actually said, " Lori, you sound like the woman I first met and

> married, so happy and giddy. " THAT was the best compliment he

could

> have given me! I will definitely look forward to today's flush!

And

> to think, some people actually take asprin to prevent the flush..

> they don't know what they are missing!

>

> ==> Wowser dowser Lori! You've hit the jackpot. See what more

> oxygen can do for your dear body? Bless you my friend. I'm so

> happy for you!

>

> with Metta, Bee

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> i was just wondering what a " flush " is. I've been trying to look

> for it, but I can't seem to find it in your files bee.

==>Hi SG. The flush people get after taking niacin (B vitamin) is

where body flushes, i.e. turns red, mostly in the head, face, ears and

neck (sometimes other places too), and it may even itch. It lasts

maybe 1/2-1 hour. Sometimes the reaction may be more intense than

other times, and sometimes there is no reaction at all to taking

niacin. The reaction is because niacin is very oxygenating and it

dialates (opens up) the entire cardiovascular system (veins, arteries,

capillaries, etc.). The redness is caused more blood being brought to

the surface of the skin. Niacin also helps flush out toxins through

the skin which may cause itching and because it is oxygenating it

spurs the body to increase its product of hydrogen peroxide and other

healing substances, i.e. histamines. It is uncomfortable but nothing

to worry about.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> i was just wondering what a " flush " is. I've been trying to look

> for it, but I can't seem to find it in your files bee.

> SG

>

>

Greetings SG! Symptoms of a flush is a rash-like appearance on your

face, neck, chest and arms (at least for me). Your face will feel hot,

perhaps even itchy for a few minutes. From what I have learned, that

is your blood getting oxygenated and it feels awesome!

with Metta,

~Lori~

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

No, it is not safe to take while pregnant. Niacin causes toxins and

impurities in the body's fatty tissues to break up and unleash into the

bloodstream and the rest of the body. If one were doing L. Ron Hubbard's

Purification program, one would be sweating these impurities out in a

sauna. Even then, it is not recommended that a woman do the program

while pregnant or breastfeeding.

For the sake of your child, hold off on the niacin until after nursing.

See the book " Clear Body Clear Mind " which was referenced on a posting

recently.

http://www.clearbodyclearmind.com/index.php

Zack

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Kay Ehlers wrote:

> I added niacin to my supplements last night for the first time and I

> immediately broke out in what I thought were hives. I went back and

> read the supplements info and realized that this is " normal " and even

> good. The flushing went away after about an hour, though my forearms

> have felt tingly all through today.

>

> But doing some research on the 'net I read someone on a message board

> who said that niacin raises prolactin levels. I'm still nursing my

> two-year old and hoping to get pregnant again soon, so I may already

> have raised prolactin levels (from breastfeeding) and I don't want it

> raised further. Does anyone know if this is true? And is niacin safe

> to take while nursing/pregnant?

>

> Also...will I get this reaction every time I take niacin, or does it

> eventually get less and less?

>

> TIA!

>

> Kay

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Zack,

The amount of niacin I recommend is 50 mg 2 times a day which I do

not believe is enough to cause any problems during pregnancy or while

breastfeeding. If a person is doing the purification program they

would be taking much high doses. Pregnant and breastfeeding moms

still need to obtain vitamin B complex which includes niacin, but the

problem is that most vitamin B complex contains niacinamide which is

synthetic. I agree that pregnant and breastfeeding moms shouldn't

take high doses of niacin but they still to take a minimum amount.

Pregnant moms are also perscribed folic acid, which is one of the B

vitamins. We know that all B vitamins need to be taken together

otherwise taking some without others depletes other B vitamins,

including niacin. Besides your own body creates niacin in a healthy

large colon.

The best, Bee

>

> > I added niacin to my supplements last night for the first time

and I

> > immediately broke out in what I thought were hives. I went back

and

> > read the supplements info and realized that this is " normal " and

even

> > good. The flushing went away after about an hour, though my

forearms

> > have felt tingly all through today.

> >

> > But doing some research on the 'net I read someone on a message

board

> > who said that niacin raises prolactin levels. I'm still nursing my

> > two-year old and hoping to get pregnant again soon, so I may

already

> > have raised prolactin levels (from breastfeeding) and I don't

want it

> > raised further. Does anyone know if this is true? And is niacin

safe

> > to take while nursing/pregnant?

> >

> > Also...will I get this reaction every time I take niacin, or does

it

> > eventually get less and less?

> >

> > TIA!

> >

> > Kay

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I added niacin to my supplements last night for the first time and I

> immediately broke out in what I thought were hives. I went back and

> read the supplements info and realized that this is " normal " and

even good. The flushing went away after about an hour, though my

forearms have felt tingly all through today.

>

> But doing some research on the 'net I read someone on a message

board who said that niacin raises prolactin levels. I'm still nursing

my two-year old and hoping to get pregnant again soon, so I may

already have raised prolactin levels (from breastfeeding) and I don't

want it raised further. Does anyone know if this is true? And is

niacin safe to take while nursing/pregnant?

>

> Also...will I get this reaction every time I take niacin, or does it

> eventually get less and less?

>

==>Hi Kay. Your own body makes niacin in a healthy large colon, but

most candida sufferers aren't as able to produce it. When taking B

vitamins they " all " need to be included, otherwise taking some and

not others depletes the ones not taken. The amount I recommend is a

very small amount compared to what Zack is talking about when a

person does the Purification Program.

This is what I wrote to Zack:

Dear Zack,

The amount of niacin I recommend is 50 mg 2 times a day which I do

not believe is enough to cause any problems during pregnancy or while

breastfeeding. If a person is doing the purification program they

would be taking much high doses. Pregnant and breastfeeding moms

still need to obtain vitamin B complex which includes niacin, but the

problem is that most vitamin B complex contains niacinamide which is

synthetic. I agree that pregnant and breastfeeding moms shouldn't

take high doses of niacin but they still need to take a minimum

amount.

Pregnant moms are also perscribed folic acid, which is one of the B

vitamins. We know that all B vitamins need to be taken together

otherwise taking some without others depletes other B vitamins,

including niacin. Besides your own body creates niacin in a healthy

large colon.

==>Kay, you won't get a flush every time you take niacin. It will

vary from day to day. Only take a maximum of 50 mgs twice a day, and

no more while you are pregnant or nursing. It is very important that

you get all of the B vitamins, including niacin.

The best, Bee

>

> Kay

>

[Guest guest]

Bee, I was only able to find niacin in 100mg capsules. Is it all right

to take that once a day while I'm breastfeeding/TTC? And have you

heard anything about niacin raising prolactin levels or interfering

with conception/pregnancy at all?

Kay

>

> Dear Zack,

> The amount of niacin I recommend is 50 mg 2 times a day which I do

> not believe is enough to cause any problems during pregnancy or while

> breastfeeding.

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee, I was only able to find niacin in 100mg capsules. Is it all

right

> to take that once a day while I'm breastfeeding/TTC? And have you

> heard anything about niacin raising prolactin levels or interfering

> with conception/pregnancy at all?

==>Hi Kay. You should cut the tablet in half so you can take it in 2

doses. No I haven't heard about niacin raising prolactin levels but

since your own body makes niacin I don't believe the small amount I

recommend would raise prolactin enough to interfere with conception.

==>As Dr. Weston A. Price writes in his book " Nutrition and Physical

Degeneration " it is most important to cure your candida before you

conceive, otherwise your babe will acquire it upon conception. Dr.

Price writes that babies inherit both parents " nutritional status "

upon conception and it is very critical that it be as good as

possible. If not, the child will have to deal with the consequences

most of his/her life, particularly with head, facial and dental

problems, and will acquire candida from you and/or your spouse.

==>Dr. Price proved that increasing both parents nutritional status

prior to conception produced healthy normal babies, even when

previous offspring were born unhealthy. In fact the primitive groups

he studied " knew this " instinctively so they ensured special

nutrients were given to both the man and woman before they

conceived. If you want to learn more you can read most of Dr.

Price's book online at:

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Bee, for the info about getting healthy before conceiving.

Unfortunately DH and I needed to undergo IVF in order to get pregnant.

We have one frozen embryo left. So the embryo was already conceived

almost three years ago.

I am hoping to become healthier in the next two months prior to

implantation (if it works) and my diet is SO much better now.

Hopefully my diet during gestation will help, and then I will raise

the second child on this diet as well. My son (who was conceived at

the same time) is gorgeous with no major health problems, but I will

be starting him on this program next month.

Kay

> ==>As Dr. Weston A. Price writes in his book " Nutrition and Physical

> Degeneration " it is most important to cure your candida before you

> conceive, otherwise your babe will acquire it upon conception.

[Guest guest]

>

> Thank you, Bee, for the info about getting healthy before

conceiving. Unfortunately DH and I needed to undergo IVF in order to

get pregnant. We have one frozen embryo left. So the embryo was

already conceived almost three years ago.

==>I understand Kay.

>

> I am hoping to become healthier in the next two months prior to

> implantation (if it works) and my diet is SO much better now.

> Hopefully my diet during gestation will help, and then I will raise

> the second child on this diet as well. My son (who was conceived at

> the same time) is gorgeous with no major health problems, but I will

> be starting him on this program next month.

==>I'm sure you will be in much better condition to carry your next

baby Kay. I commend you for deciding to put your son on this program

too. The more the merrier! It is so important for children to

understand the importance of nutrients for their well-being

throughout their lives.

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

//> Laurie, all I can offer you is my personal experience. After

taking niacin with my meals, I typically would experience the flush 10

- 20 minutes after swallowing the dose. I've never experienced a flush

anywhere close to 5 hours after ingestion.

>

> Hi Bee and everyone,

>

> I've been taking niacin in increasing amounts, and just had my

first flush at 500 mg (plus 100mg as niacinamide in my vitamin B

supplement). I took the niacin after breakfast, and experienced the

flush after lunch about 5 hours later. I thought I read that the flush

occurs 20 minutes after taking the niacin. Is that normal?

>

> More importantly, do I keep increasing the amount of niacin until

I'm taking 1000mg per day (not including the niacinamide), and then

continue to take the 1000 mg each day?

>

> Thanks so much for your help!!

> Enjoy!

> Laurie

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee and everyone,

>

> I've been taking niacin in increasing amounts, and just had my

first flush at 500 mg (plus 100mg as niacinamide in my vitamin B

supplement). I took the niacin after breakfast, and experienced the

flush after lunch about 5 hours later. I thought I read that the

flush occurs 20 minutes after taking the niacin. Is that normal?

>

> More importantly, do I keep increasing the amount of niacin until

I'm taking 1000mg per day (not including the niacinamide), and then

continue to take the 1000 mg each day?

>

> Thanks so much for your help!!

> Enjoy!

> Laurie

==>Hi Laurie. Niacin flushes typically occur 20 minutes to an hour

after taking it, but if you take it with food it could take longer.

I've also had niacin flushes occur hours later, so timing is of no

concern.

==>You can continue taking 1,000 mg niacin per day for as long as you

need to, but I suggest you start lowering the doses to 500 mg after 6

months, and 6 months after that lower them to 250 mg. There is no

need to continue for very long periods of time on higher doses,

particularly since your body will produce niacin as you progress on

this program.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I am confused.I thought we were supposed to take a B-complex

supplement that has 50 mg niacin in it.

>

> Are we to take 1,000 mg niacin in addition to the b-complex?

==>Some people are taking more niacin to help get rid of toxins and to

oxygenate their system, and it won't hurt you. The minimum amount is

50 mg niacin twice a day along with a B complex.

Bee

[Guest guest]

More importantly, do I keep increasing the amount of niacin until I'm taking

1000mg per day (not including the niacinamide), and then continue to take

the 1000 mg each day?

Thanks so much for your help!!

Enjoy!

Laurie

Hi,

I am confused.I thought we were supposed to take a B-complex supplement that

has 50 mg niacin in it.

Are we to take 1,000 mg niacin in addition to the b-complex?

I am back home now (US) and want to buy my supplements today. Just making

sure I have it all right. :-)

Thanks,

a

[Guest guest]

I have suspended taking the niacin for the time being because the

flush is causing me to lose too much heat and afterwards I am chilled

and feel quite unwell. Any ideas to combat this appreciated!

Miriam

> Niacin flush

>

> Niacin flushes come in various intensities from mild to severe. It

> starts at the forehead with a warming tingle and intensifies. From

> there, the tingle travels down the rest of the body, stopping

anywhere

> between the chest to the toes. With continued use, the flush

gradually

> lessens until only a mild tingling in the forehead may be detected.

If

> you skip your niacin for a day or two, the flush will reappear. Many

> factors can influence the flush reaction, so its difficult to

predict

> what your experience will be like.

>

> Factors that decrease the intensity of a flush include:

>

> * a cold meal

> * taking niacin on a full stomach

> * taking aspirin or an antihistamine prior to taking niacin

>

> Factors that increase the intensity of a flush include:

>

> * a hot meal or a hot drink

> * Taking niacin on an empty stomach

> * chewing the tablets, helping them break down faster

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 03/01/2008 11:55:18 GMT Standard Time,

miriam_hinch@... writes:

" I have suspended taking the niacin... the

flush is causing me to lose too much heat and afterwards I am chilled

and feel quite unwell. Any ideas? Miriam "

Interesting; I've sometimes noted that cooling effect too, probably because

of the niacin dilated blood vessels close to the skin exposing more blood to

the cooler surroundings - Seems to me you could layer up your clothes and/or

reduce the dosage 'til the flushing gets a little less.

I don't know that the flush sensation, " ..starts at the forehead with a

warming tingle and intensifies. From there, the tingle travels down the rest of

the body, stopping anywhere between the chest to the toes " does this with

everyone, I experience it in different ways, often by my whole body just warming

up until I start needing a good satisfying scratch, other times my face just

feels hot - interestingly, the first time I ever took niacin about 20 years

ago, the first, (unexpected and alarming) sensation was a fierce burning

sensation across the top of my back exactly where I'd had severe sunburn when I

was

a child....

Cheers.

Ed.

[Guest guest]

>

> I have suspended taking the niacin for the time being because the

> flush is causing me to lose too much heat and afterwards I am

chilled and feel quite unwell. Any ideas to combat this appreciated!

> Miriam

==>Even though it may cause you to feel bad after, it is a very

important supplement with many health benefits. Niacin helps your

body detoxify, opens up blood vessels and capillaries, and it

oxygenates the body. Candida toxins make all of the body's cells go

rigid/stiff so that red blood cells cannot fold as they should to get

into capillaries. Niacin doesn't make your body lose heat; it

creates heat because it is flushing out toxins along with radiation

from the sun (sunburns) and other sources.

When you feel chilled afterward take a hot shower or Epsom salt bath,

or bundle up in warm blankets. Also ensure the air in your home has

plenty of moisture. For more information about the benefits of

niacin see: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/niacin.php

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bee for explaining the health benefits of niacin, and for the

informative web-page reference.

I must explain that I have CFS/ME, so I have problems with a low core

body temperature to start with. The niacin really does cause me to

lose heat. Anything that dilates the peripheral blood vessels can

cause heat loss, which is why the St Bernard dogs shouldn't carry

brandy to those people rescued from avalanches! However, I take on

board what you say about the importance of taking the niacin and I'll

just have to be ready to wrap up well afterwards.

Miriam

> >

> > I have suspended taking the niacin for the time being because the

> > flush is causing me to lose too much heat and afterwards I am

> chilled and feel quite unwell. Any ideas to combat this

appreciated!

> > Miriam

>

> ==>Even though it may cause you to feel bad after, it is a very

> important supplement with many health benefits. Niacin helps your

> body detoxify, opens up blood vessels and capillaries, and it

> oxygenates the body. Candida toxins make all of the body's cells

go rigid/stiff so that red blood cells cannot fold as they should to

get into capillaries. Niacin doesn't make your body lose heat; it

> creates heat because it is flushing out toxins along with radiation

> from the sun (sunburns) and other sources.

>

> When you feel chilled afterward take a hot shower or Epsom salt

bath, or bundle up in warm blankets. Also ensure the air in your

home has plenty of moisture. For more information about the benefits

of niacin see:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/niacin.php

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Me too. I always get sleepy after a good flush. " )

>

>

> Speaking of Niacin.....I discovered something interesting about Niacin

> for myself.

>

> If I can't relax to get to sleep at night, I take a dose of Niacin on

> an empty stomach that I know (by experience) will give me a flush. In

> a little while, the flush will come on, I get very warm, relaxed and

> happy. The next thing I know it's morning. :-)

>

> For me it has worked every time.

>

> Has anyone else experienced this?

> Debra NW

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks Bee for explaining the health benefits of niacin, and for the

> informative web-page reference.

>

> I must explain that I have CFS/ME, so I have problems with a low core

> body temperature to start with. The niacin really does cause me to

> lose heat. Anything that dilates the peripheral blood vessels can

> cause heat loss, which is why the St Bernard dogs shouldn't carry

> brandy to those people rescued from avalanches! However, I take on

> board what you say about the importance of taking the niacin and I'll

> just have to be ready to wrap up well afterwards.

==>Good for you Miriam. CFS/ME are both caused by candida. See

" Candida Causes Cell Membrane Defects " to understand the problems that

candida toxins cause;

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cabout1.php

==>Low core temperature involves many functions and organs in the

body, but with candida it is mainly caused by malfunctioning adrenals

and thyroid. That is because candida toxins makes all body cells go

rigid, which interferes with the functioning of all organs, and the

hormones that are produced aren't as able to get into rigid/stiff

cells where they are needed to do their job. You only need to do this

program to correct those problems, as well as your CFS.

Bee

[Guest guest]

I have had my 6th niacin flush today. Two days ago I had a similar

flush with 5/5 intensity level. I have been keeping track of each

flush and rating them (crazy, I know).

Question - the flushes are lasting around 25 mins and boy are they

intense. Rapid heart beat, hard to breath normally, chills (except my

head feels hot like it is going to explode) and internal trembling. Is

this normal? Seems like all my reactions to anything (coffee enemas

etc.) are the same - a feeling like a jumbo panic attack.

Thanks -

[Guest guest]

>

> I have had my 6th niacin flush today. Two days ago I had a similar

> flush with 5/5 intensity level. I have been keeping track of each

> flush and rating them (crazy, I know).

>

> Question - the flushes are lasting around 25 mins and boy are they

> intense. Rapid heart beat, hard to breath normally, chills (except my

> head feels hot like it is going to explode) and internal trembling. Is

> this normal? Seems like all my reactions to anything (coffee enemas

> etc.) are the same - a feeling like a jumbo panic attack.

>

> Thanks -

==>Yes, those are normal reactions to niacin, depending upon the dose

and your toxic levels. To minimize reactions take less.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bee - I am only taking 50mg per day right now. I guess I could

cut that in half and split out AM/PM.

> >

> > I have had my 6th niacin flush today. Two days ago I had a similar

> > flush with 5/5 intensity level. I have been keeping track of each

> > flush and rating them (crazy, I know).

> >

> > Question - the flushes are lasting around 25 mins and boy are they

> > intense. Rapid heart beat, hard to breath normally, chills (except my

> > head feels hot like it is going to explode) and internal trembling. Is

> > this normal? Seems like all my reactions to anything (coffee enemas

> > etc.) are the same - a feeling like a jumbo panic attack.

> >

> > Thanks -

>

> ==>Yes, those are normal reactions to niacin, depending upon the dose

> and your toxic levels. To minimize reactions take less.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks Bee - I am only taking 50mg per day right now. I guess I could

> cut that in half and split out AM/PM.

>

>

==>Yes, that would be a good idea so your niacin flush isn't so

dramatic.

Cheers, Bee

[Guest guest]

Does it matter when doing a niacin flush if it is done with the

following:

1.sunshine

2.a hot bath

3.with exercise

Thank you.

Happiness, Ellen " -)