Re: Vitamin D May Help Prevent Onset of Arthritis and MS

[Guest guest]

Hi folks:

Just for the record, vitamin D is one of the vitamins you CAN get too

much of. Here are the symptoms of vitamin D excess - just so we

know. It is from Merck, so it should be reliable:

" Vitamin D Excess

Taking very high daily doses of vitamin D over several months can

cause toxicity and a high calcium level in the blood (hypercalcemia

(see Section 12, Chapter 155)).

Early symptoms are loss of appetite, nausea, and vomiting, followed

by excessive thirst, weakness, nervousness, and high blood pressure.

Because the calcium level is high, calcium may be deposited

throughout the body, particularly in the kidneys, blood vessels,

lungs, and heart. The kidneys may be permanently damaged and

malfunction. As a result, urination increases, protein passes into

the urine, and the level of urea (a waste product) increases in the

blood. Kidney failure may result.

Vitamin D excess is usually diagnosed when blood tests detect a high

calcium level in a person who takes high doses of vitamin D. The

diagnosis is confirmed by measuring the level of vitamin D in the

blood. Treatment consists of discontinuing vitamin D supplements,

following a low-calcium diet for a while to offset the effects of a

high calcium level in the body, and taking drugs to suppress the

release of calcium from the bones. "

> Here's an article which says that Vitamin D supplements are

actually MORE

> desirable than getting Vit D from food. Curiously there is no

mention of

> the fact that one of the best sources of Vit D is from sunlight. (

A while

> back we had a discussion of the many desirable aspects of getting

enough

> light through the retina and going outside even on dark cloudy

wintry days.)

>

> If anyone has the actual study which is pointed out below, please

post.

> Thanks in advance:

[Guest guest]

Also, colon cancer is far more prevalent in northern climates. So

that may (POSSIBLY) also be prevented by vitamin D supplements in

modest amounts.

Rodney.

> Here's an article which says that Vitamin D supplements are

actually MORE

> desirable than getting Vit D from food. Curiously there is no

mention of

> the fact that one of the best sources of Vit D is from sunlight. (

A while

> back we had a discussion of the many desirable aspects of getting

enough

> light through the retina and going outside even on dark cloudy

wintry days.)

>

> If anyone has the actual study which is pointed out below, please

post.

> Thanks in advance:

>

[Guest guest]

While the statement below is technically correct, according to

government/university studies I read before beginning vit. D

supplementation (sorry, I cannot remember or cite the exact sources),

virtually everyone can tolerate 2000 IUs of vit. D per day without

adverse effect and most people can tolerate 3000 IUs per day. I

believe these numbers are well above the daily dosage level of most

people. FWIW, I personally take about 1600 IUs per day without

apparent problem and hopefully it has some benefit to me.

--- In , " Rodney " <perspect1111@y...>

wrote:

> Just for the record, vitamin D is one of the vitamins you CAN get

> too much of.

[Guest guest]

VERY interesting post, Apricot (thank you). It raises a whole bunch

of questions ......... I hope you don't mind my asking them!

--- In , apricot85 <apricot85@a...>

wrote:

> Based on results of chronic low D test, I tried D supps in dry

capsule

> form.

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How did you find out you were D deficient? Did you have symptoms of

some kind?

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For 6 mos, I took 3,000 to 6,000 with no effect on blood levels.

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Now isn't that interesting. WOW.

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> Was worse than nothing since I paid for the dang supps, & my D

declined

> further. It may be that this form is useless (for ME), while oil

based

> would've worked fine.

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Do you know for sure that: " ... oil based would've worked fine. " ?

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> Spring/summer sun returns (Sun definitely works per testing) & D

levels

> are satisfactory with 15 mins 3 times/wk on sunny days.

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So for a satisfactory vitamin D level how much of your skin surface

has to be exposed to the sun 15 minutes 3 times/wk ???? (Is just

the face/hands enough? Or do you have to be in a swimsuit?)

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> With low D again this winter I tried a sun lamp (encouraged by

studies &

> Univ of Boston). Suprise, this worked... and I don't even get a

tan.

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If you don't mind my asking (!) how often per week and how long per

session did you use the sun lamp (that DID work for you) and roughly

what percentage of your skin was exposed to the UV under the lamp for

that period?

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> The lamp is a bit of a hassle & now that my D is OK, I'm

periodically

> using emulsified cod liver oil. Effect CLO on blood testing not

yet

> known.

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Please let us know whether or not the CLO works for you.

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> If you don't get sun, office worker, washington state area, I would

> definitely get tested. D is essential to bone health & so many

critical

> metabolic processes. For me, I couldn't sleep for more than 2

hours

> everytime my D was low... it was BAD & the problem always goes away

when

> I get sun/D ... I am so happy to be able to sleep again.

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Thanks Apricot.

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