Re: Food/eating habits that affect hunger?

[Guest guest]

Do you mean how to abate hunger? See our files especially " Aids and Tips " .

Some feel that eating in the " Zone " helps abate hunger i.e. protein, and a

tiny amount of healthy fat with each meal or snack helps.

on 1/11/2004 9:32 PM, temma675 at temma675@... wrote:

> Hi, all

>

> Has anyone out there discovered a diet plan which succesfully targets

> the issue of hunger?

>

> I am thinking that many people have experienced " hunger pains " to

> some degree. Can any one give me some tips on foods/eating habits

> that seem to affect " hunger " sensation? I realize " fiber " and

> moderate portions are some things that affect " hunger " , but I am

> looking for things like food composition (fat, carbs, protein),

> specific foods and eating patterns that affect how hungry you get.

>

> Thanx in advance

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Temma675,

While I haven't experimented with macronutrient profiles as much as some

here have, I think that a general consensus is that reasonable intake of fat

and protein seems to help with hunger (anecdotally, I find just a few

almonds will stave off any early pangs until I'm ready for a meal -- this

can be helps for CR or non-CR, given the exigencies of most peoples' work

schedules).

More personally, I find that making 'good' meals, nicely presented, and with

multiple courses helps me to feel well nourished. I usually start with a

soup, which is known to help with satiety, and then go onto the more typical

plate of veggies, salad, and usually a meat entree (N. American, not French

entrée/appetizer).

For snacks throughout the day, avoiding anything with refined sugars will

help to stabilize your blood-sugar, which should help a *lot* with hunger.

Essentially, there's no good reason for simple carbs, unless they come in a

very nutritious food, put white flour, sugar, etc. are not really necessary.

Otherwise, caffeine is a known hunger suppressant, and it can easily be

obtained in non-food snacks, like coffee, black tea, & green tea

(unfortunately, I can't drink black or green tea due to the tannins). What

is perhaps *most* important is water -- most North Americans are so

chronically dehydrated that we're unable to distinguish between hunger and

thirst. It sounds odd to most people, but try to ensure that you drink a

litre or two of water each day and see how you feel after a week. I drink

even more than that when I'm in a production (yes, a skinny opera singer)

and I feel great, plus have no hunger.

If you're in the midst of a hunger pang, try having a couple of glasses of

water, then wait 15 minutes. If you're still hunger, then it's real hunger,

but you'll probably find that most of the time you were really just thirsty.

Best,

________________________

Gifford

3-5 Humanities Centre

Department of English

University of Alberta

www.ualberta.ca/~gifford

[Guest guest]

I think salt, artificial flavoring/coloring, corn syrup, excess fat play a large role in hunger. I'm almost never hungry but I don't go much below 1800 kcals on any given day. I eat steamed brown rice, steamed veggies, ffmilk, some hard cheeses, and very little other animal products. There have been a very few days when I got very hungry and then I ate an ounce of peanut butter.

But let me add that as far back as 1963 I had to cut out breakfast to hold my weight near nominal. In that time I learned to drink coffee with sugar a cupla times before lunch and I quickly "learned" to overcome the hunger from no breakfast. In 1970 I started 300kcals of manual labor and I had to add eggs and milk to keep up my energy past 2PM.

Growing to 233# by 1994, I had to rethink breakfast and relearn not to get hungry before lunch. Now I eat a 350kcal brkfast with a major meal at lunch(1200 kcals) and a snack for supper (250 kcals). So part of the problem may be overcome by the "right" spacing of meals.

When I dropped intake I started at setting 3000kcals as my goal. nothing happened. I dropped it to 2500 kcals and found the right foods so I wouldn't be hungry. That didn't lose weight in 3 months so I dropped to 2000 kcals.

Then I dropped to 1800 kcals and I could lose some weight, especially if I did some exercise. It took several years. So another rule is you don't have to hurry it.

Watch for the certain foods that make you hungry. If you eat a bowl of stew and you feel like you could eat another, ask yourself why. Something in that stew, maybe a canned product you added when making it, contains something that makes you hungry. Don't use that product anymore.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: temma675

Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 8:32 PM

Subject: [ ] Food/eating habits that affect "hunger"?

Hi, allHas anyone out there discovered a diet plan which succesfully targets the issue of hunger?I am thinking that many people have experienced "hunger pains" to some degree. Can any one give me some tips on foods/eating habits that seem to affect "hunger" sensation? I realize "fiber" and moderate portions are some things that affect "hunger", but I am looking for things like food composition (fat, carbs, protein), specific foods and eating patterns that affect how hungry you get.Thanx in advance

[Guest guest]

Thanks jwwright,

I must have missed your link, I just read it now. That advice is very

helpful.

--- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...>

wrote:

> I think salt, artificial flavoring/coloring, corn syrup, excess fat

play a large role in hunger. I'm almost never hungry but I don't go

much below 1800 kcals on any given day. I eat steamed brown rice,

steamed veggies, ffmilk, some hard cheeses, and very little other

animal products. There have been a very few days when I got very

hungry and then I ate an ounce of peanut butter.

>

> But let me add that as far back as 1963 I had to cut out breakfast

to hold my weight near nominal. In that time I learned to drink

coffee with sugar a cupla times before lunch and I quickly " learned "

to overcome the hunger from no breakfast. In 1970 I started 300kcals

of manual labor and I had to add eggs and milk to keep up my energy

past 2PM.

>

> Growing to 233# by 1994, I had to rethink breakfast and relearn not

to get hungry before lunch. Now I eat a 350kcal brkfast with a major

meal at lunch(1200 kcals) and a snack for supper (250 kcals). So part

of the problem may be overcome by the " right " spacing of meals.

>

> When I dropped intake I started at setting 3000kcals as my goal.

nothing happened. I dropped it to 2500 kcals and found the right

foods so I wouldn't be hungry. That didn't lose weight in 3 months so

I dropped to 2000 kcals.

> Then I dropped to 1800 kcals and I could lose some weight,

especially if I did some exercise. It took several years. So another

rule is you don't have to hurry it.

>

> Watch for the certain foods that make you hungry. If you eat a bowl

of stew and you feel like you could eat another, ask yourself why.

Something in that stew, maybe a canned product you added when making

it, contains something that makes you hungry. Don't use that product

anymore.

>

> Regards.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: temma675

>

> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 8:32 PM

> Subject: [ ] Food/eating habits that affect " hunger " ?

>

>

> Hi, all

>

> Has anyone out there discovered a diet plan which succesfully

targets

> the issue of hunger?

>

> I am thinking that many people have experienced " hunger pains " to

> some degree. Can any one give me some tips on foods/eating habits

> that seem to affect " hunger " sensation? I realize " fiber " and

> moderate portions are some things that affect " hunger " , but I am

> looking for things like food composition (fat, carbs, protein),

> specific foods and eating patterns that affect how hungry you get.

>

> Thanx in advance