Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 > > Dr. Mercola states that eating 1 french fry is much worse than smoking > 1 cigarette. > > Bee That may be true, but why are my friends who are heavy smokers dying of lung cancer? French fries may be bad, but I don't see how this makes cigarettes any better, given its addictive nature. In November, I lost a good friend I had known since we were teen-agers. He smoked 3 packs a day and died at the age of 59 after battling lung cancer for 10 years. I don't know too many people who just smoke one or two cigarettes a day. To the contrary, the smokers I know are heavy smokers, with their gums, teeth and mouth in awful condition, not to mention their frequent coughing and frequent bouts with respiratory illnesses. Smokers' breath smells awful and being kissed by a smoker is like coming in close contact with an ash tray. Another consideration: the pesticides they use on the plants are terrible. Kathleen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Agreed. I smoked for 18 years, most of that time 1 pack per day. I quit back in 2001. I know many people who quit and years later died of lung cancer. I'm sure all the pesticides and chemicals are horrible for our bodies. Another piece of evidence that tobacco causes cancer directly is those who chew or dip tobacco in thier mouths who end up getting cancer specifically in the mouth, jaw or throat as a result. Just one of the many reasons I'm doing this diet is to detoxify, and to rebuild each of my organs and cells with GOOD things. I know it will take years, but I believe it's worth it! - > > That may be true, but why are my friends who are heavy smokers dying of > lung cancer? French fries may be bad, but I don't see how this makes > cigarettes any better, given its addictive nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 > > > > Dr. Mercola states that eating 1 french fry is much worse than > smoking > > 1 cigarette. > > > > Bee > > That may be true, but why are my friends who are heavy smokers dying of > lung cancer? French fries may be bad, but I don't see how this makes cigarettes any better, given its addictive nature. In November, I lost a good friend I had known since we were teen-agers. He smoked 3 packs a day and died at the age of 59 after battling lung cancer for 10 years. ==>The point IS that foods/nutrients go into making the body's cells, and french fries contain " bad " fats that do more damage than smoking. The reason is, all of the body's cell membranes need to be made out of 50% saturated fats (the lungs need 100%). However when the person consumes " bad " fats the body incorporates them into making cell membranes, which makes them weak and more susceptible to toxins (like smoke) and less able to get rid of waste products from inside the cells. ==>Since the government, medicine, etc. lump saturated fats with trans-fats as equally damaging, most people are not consuming good fats their bodies require. There are just as many people who don't smoke getting lung cancer so the statistics are being twisted, making us believe it's mainly smokers that get lung cancer, which isn't true. The true cause of lung cancer is " lack of saturated fats " along with poor nutrition. ==>Smoking certainly isn't good for anyone, but getting the nutrients the body needs to keep healthy and eliminating damaging foods is more important! The best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 > ==>Since the government, medicine, etc. lump saturated fats with > trans-fats as equally damaging, most people are not consuming good > fats their bodies require. There are just as many people who don't > smoke getting lung cancer so the statistics are being twisted, making > us believe it's mainly smokers that get lung cancer, which isn't > true. The true cause of lung cancer is " lack of saturated fats " > along with poor nutrition. > > ==>Smoking certainly isn't good for anyone, but getting the nutrients > the body needs to keep healthy and eliminating damaging foods is more > important! > > The best, Bee If you google " lung cancer non-smokers " , the first two on the list, medicine.net and ABC news both state that 10% of those with lung cancer are non-smokers, therefore 90% of those with lung cancer are smokers. I don't doubt the importance of good fats and a good diet, but they need to go hand in hand with other behaviors, like not smoking, for ideal health. Yes, I am down on smoking. I hate having to inhale someone else's stale cigarette smoke from their exhalation when they are close to me, sometimes unavoidable, and I hate losing friends to lung cancer. Kathleen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 If you google " lung cancer non-smokers " , the first two on the list, medicine.net and ABC news both state that 10% of those with lung cancer are non-smokers, therefore 90% of those with lung cancer are smokers. I don't doubt the importance of good fats and a good diet, but they need to go hand in hand with other behaviors, like not smoking, for ideal health. > Kathleen Hi Kathleen...if the above 2 sources you list are accurate, the other 90% with lung cancer are not necessarily smokers. There are many whose cancer spreads to the lungs from another primary site & also those who contract lung cancer from sources other than tobacco. Honest. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Kathleen, I'm the opposite. I love the smell of smoke on my guy. My father died of lung cancer long after he stopped smoking. It was not his smoking that killed him. My father remarried and she always feed him deep fat fried foods cooked in canola oil. When he lived alone he was healthy eating roasted meats. I personally got emphysema *after* I quit smoking! I tried moving, cutting out the use of chemicals, wearing natural fibers, exercise and all the drugs the doctors would give me. I only got well after going on Bee's diet. Nan >That may be true, but why are my friends who are heavy smokers dying of lung cancer? French fries may be bad, but I don't see how this makes cigarettes any better, given its addictive nature. In November, I lost a good friend I had known since we were teen-agers. He smoked 3 packs a day and died at the age of 59 after battling lung cancer for 10 years. I don't know too many people who just smoke one or two cigarettes a day. To the contrary, the smokers I know are heavy smokers, with their gums, teeth and mouth in awful condition, not to mention their frequent coughing and frequent bouts with respiratory illnesses. Smokers' breath smells awful and being kissed by a smoker is like coming in close contact with an ash tray. Another consideration: the pesticides they use on the plants are terrible. Kathleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Im with you fwiw...when I was very sick ....second hand cigarette smoke really knocked me around ,,,..even now it dosent agree with me but nowhere as bad as before . I used to go to the nearby surfbeach to get fresh air when I was ill.... & some obliging smoker would come & light up directly upwind of me ...lol. All the smoking bans in public places around the world lately is one of the best ideas governments have come up with as far as I'm concerned. Re: Dr. Mercola & Smoking Posted by: " kathleen_dobek " kdobek@... kathleen_dobek Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:24 am (PST) Yes, I am down on smoking. I hate having to inhale someone else's stale cigarette smoke from their exhalation when they are close to me, sometimes unavoidable, and I hate losing friends to lung cancer. Kathleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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