Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 Yes if the tomato paste has been cooked (I guess that's how they make tomato paste) then it should be fine. But as Bob says below, you need to add a bit of fat to get the most lycopene (which btw is very beneficial in preventing prostate cancer) on 12/31/2003 10:53 PM, RJB112 at rjb112@... wrote: > It seems to me that cooking splits the cell walls. Once that's been > accomplished (prior to canning), the lycopene is then far more > available. > > I take my tomato paste with some fish oil, but I don't cook it, since > it's already a cooked product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 Raw foods rule, lol. They are so much better for you than anything that is cooked. ) Helps you live longer too. ----- Original Message ----- From: " Francesca Skelton " <fskelton@...> > Yes if the tomato paste has been cooked (I guess that's how they make tomato > paste) then it should be fine. But as Bob says below, you need to add a bit > of fat to get the most lycopene (which btw is very beneficial in preventing > prostate cancer) > > > on 12/31/2003 10:53 PM, RJB112 at rjb112@... wrote: > > > It seems to me that cooking splits the cell walls. Once that's been > > accomplished (prior to canning), the lycopene is then far more > > available. > > > > I take my tomato paste with some fish oil, but I don't cook it, since > > it's already a cooked product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 Bruce: not sure if this is tongue-in cheek or not, but in the case of tomatoes, it proves that the " raw foods rule " is not always the case. In fact there are other foods that are healthier cooked. on 1/1/2004 3:04 AM, Bruce Stordock at stordock@... wrote: > Raw foods rule, lol. > They are so much better for you than anything that is cooked. ) > > Helps you live longer too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 It is remarkable how much we still don't know about nutrition. My sense it that broad sweeping generalizations will often be wrong. One more reason for variety in our diet. HNY JR -----Original Message----- From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...] Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Tomato Paste Bruce: not sure if this is tongue-in cheek or not, but in the case of tomatoes, it proves that the " raw foods rule " is not always the case. In fact there are other foods that are healthier cooked. on 1/1/2004 3:04 AM, Bruce Stordock at stordock@... wrote: > Raw foods rule, lol. > They are so much better for you than anything that is cooked. ) > > Helps you live longer too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 Variety, variety, variety (of fruits and veggies that is). And Moderation, moderation, moderation. on 1/1/2004 9:47 AM, john roberts at johnhrob@... wrote: > It is remarkable how much we still don't know about nutrition. My sense it > that broad sweeping generalizations will often be wrong. One more reason for > variety in our diet. > > HNY > > JR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:16:19 -0500 > From: Francesca Skelton <fskelton@e...> > Subject: Re: Any vegan CR people out there? > > Brad (my son's name): be sure to heat the tomato paste and add a bit > of fat > such as olive oil. Heated tomato sauce/paste with a bit of fat is > what > releases the lycopene. > --------------- > Francesca, I'm certainly no expert on this, but I believe that cold > tomato paste with a bit of oil would do the job just fine. > > Tomato paste is made of cooked tomatoes, with most of the water > removed. > > The cooking of the tomatoes (and consuming a bit of oil added) > releases the lycopene, as you point out. > > I doubt that whether the concentrated cooked tomatoes (tomato paste) > is hot at the time of consumption makes a difference. > > It seems to me that cooking splits the cell walls. Once that's been > accomplished (prior to canning), the lycopene is then far more > available. > > I take my tomato paste with some fish oil, but I don't cook it, since > it's already a cooked product. > > Please correct me if I am wrong here. Hi All, The below, I believe may bear on this discussion and surprised me. Cheers, Al Pater. Free Radic Biol Med. 2000 Nov 15;29(10):1051-5. Consumption of tomato products with olive oil but not sunflower oil increases the antioxidant activity of plasma. Lee A, Thurnham DI, Chopra M. Health benefits of lycopene from tomato products have been suggested to be related to its antioxidant activity. Dietary fat may influence the absorption and hence the plasma levels and antioxidant activity of lycopene. In the present study, we have compared the effect of consumption of tomato products with extra-virgin olive oil vs. tomato products plus sunflower oil on plasma lycopene and antioxidant levels. Results show that ... consumption of tomato products with olive oil significantly raised the plasma antioxidant activity (FRAP) from 930 +/- 150 to 1118 +/- 184 micromol/l, p <.01) but no effect was observed when the sunflower oil was used. The change (supplementation minus start values) in FRAP following the consumption of tomato products with oil was significantly higher for olive oil (190 +/- 101) than for sunflower oil (-9.6 +/- 99, p <. 005). In conclusion, the results of the study show that consumption of tomato products with olive oil but not with sunflower oil improves the antioxidant activity of the plasma. PMID: 11084294 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 I just did some figuring on this product and it appears that the 6oz serving is equivalent to eating 1.5# of tomatoes except that the available lycopene is much higher in the paste. This makes the past a bargain. I do not think you could buy 1.5# of tomatoes for less than $1.00 most of the time in our area and I have seen 6oz cans of tomato paste for as little as $.33! You can probably get it for less than $.50 just about anywhere in the USA. You may want to try it on celery and many different things as a dip and I would not be surprised if it would be good in soups too. This is the only food product I now that seems better and less expensive than the unprocessed food. Comments? Brad Forgy ----- Original Message ----- From: RJB112 Sent: 12/31/2003 9:53:51 PM Subject: [ ] Tomato Paste Francesca wrote:Message: 1 Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:16:19 -0500 From: Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...>Subject: Re: Any vegan CR people out there?Brad (my son's name): be sure to heat the tomato paste and add a bit of fatsuch as olive oil. Heated tomato sauce/paste with a bit of fat is whatreleases the lycopene. ---------------Francesca, I'm certainly no expert on this, but I believe that cold tomato paste with a bit of oil would do the job just fine.Tomato paste is made of cooked tomatoes, with most of the water removed.The cooking of the tomatoes (and consuming a bit of oil added)releases the lycopene, as you point out.I doubt that whether the concentrated cooked tomatoes (tomato paste)is hot at the time of consumption makes a difference.It seems to me that cooking splits the cell walls. Once that's been accomplished (prior to canning), the lycopene is then far more available. I take my tomato paste with some fish oil, but I don't cook it, since it's already a cooked product.Please correct me if I am wrong here.thanksrjb112@...Bob Bessen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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