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How very, very small and narrow minded of you.

[ ] Re: RELIGIOUS posts

> Perhaps would feel better if we only referred to our higher power

> as a

> " bastard. "

>

> It's funny how she can fling that word around but become offended at

> the mere

> mention of Jesus.

>

> Strange..................

>

> Charlene

>

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > > >And that thankfulness does NOT exclude trying to help our

> children

> > > >get better. I have a friend who says I should just accept

> > > >this " cross " and know that God has given it to us for His

> reasons.

> > > >BUT, I DO believe we're to do whatever we can to help our son get

> > > >better, not out of selfishness, as this friend subtly suggests,

> but

> > > >for his own benefit. It's been in this active fight that we've

> > > >overcome the most hurdles, whether they be spiritual, emotional,

> or

> > > >intellectual. There are SO MANY positive changes in our family's

> > > >life as a result of this struggle to accept, work with, and fight

> our

> > > >son's autism.

> > >

> > > I agree! I would never have the strength to keep fighting this

> thing

> > > without my faith in Jesus. He has held me together. I would never

> want to

> > > be doing this on my own. Lynette

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >=======================================================

> > > >

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Funny, I was going to say " how Christian "

Yes, my pagan faith has helped me IMMENSELY through all of this, I don't feel

the need to tell everyone to turn to the Goddess for comfort/hope/strength,

though I do believe this whole toxin thing is just more proof of how we need to

be careful what we do with Mama Earth!!

Hang in there ,

lisa edmond wrote:

> How very, very small and narrow minded of you.

>

>

> [ ] Re: RELIGIOUS posts

>

> > Perhaps would feel better if we only referred to our higher power

> > as a

> > " bastard. "

> >

> > It's funny how she can fling that word around but become offended at

> > the mere

> > mention of Jesus.

> >

> > Strange..................

> >

> > Charlene

> >

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >And that thankfulness does NOT exclude trying to help our

> > children

> > > > >get better. I have a friend who says I should just accept

> > > > >this " cross " and know that God has given it to us for His

> > reasons.

> > > > >BUT, I DO believe we're to do whatever we can to help our son get

> > > > >better, not out of selfishness, as this friend subtly suggests,

> > but

> > > > >for his own benefit. It's been in this active fight that we've

> > > > >overcome the most hurdles, whether they be spiritual, emotional,

> > or

> > > > >intellectual. There are SO MANY positive changes in our family's

> > > > >life as a result of this struggle to accept, work with, and fight

> > our

> > > > >son's autism.

> > > >

> > > > I agree! I would never have the strength to keep fighting this

> > thing

> > > > without my faith in Jesus. He has held me together. I would never

> > want to

> > > > be doing this on my own. Lynette

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >=======================================================

> > > > >

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[ ] Re: RELIGIOUS posts

Dear Leah,

You needn't pray for me unless it helps you in some way. I have my own

spirituality that has given me all the love that my heart can hold, the

strength to carry on in spite of many " battles " that go on day after day . .

.. after day, and the joy that gladdens my heart at the sight of my

children's faces, a blue sky, a garden of flowers and the ocean at sunset.

My life is full and it is happy.

> , I've met you, and am grateful for you, and we share the same

> bond having children with autism. Yes, but we do differ in our

> beliefs, but the scripture says, Enter through the narrow gate, For

> wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and

> many enter through it.But small is the gate and narrow the road that

> leads to life , and only a few find it. , this is the word of

> God, you need not argue with us, but if you doubt take it to the Lord

> in prayer. And yes I am glad my mind is small, as a childs, I come to

> the Lord as a child would in faith, and I am glad that my mind is

> small and narrow, and you need to know that the innocence of your

> child is a one way gate into heaven, and one day she will be their,

> with or without you. In Christs love we will share, and pray for you

> , Leah

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >And that thankfulness does NOT exclude trying to help our

> > > children

> > > > > >get better. I have a friend who says I should just accept

> > > > > >this " cross " and know that God has given it to us for His

> > > reasons.

> > > > > >BUT, I DO believe we're to do whatever we can to help our

> son get

> > > > > >better, not out of selfishness, as this friend subtly

> suggests,

> > > but

> > > > > >for his own benefit. It's been in this active fight that

> we've

> > > > > >overcome the most hurdles, whether they be spiritual,

> emotional,

> > > or

> > > > > >intellectual. There are SO MANY positive changes in our

> family's

> > > > > >life as a result of this struggle to accept, work with, and

> fight

> > > our

> > > > > >son's autism.

> > > > >

> > > > > I agree! I would never have the strength to keep fighting this

> > > thing

> > > > > without my faith in Jesus. He has held me together. I would

> never

> > > want to

> > > > > be doing this on my own. Lynette

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >=======================================================

> > > > > >

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I have been a follower of the Jesus for almost 15 years...It has led me through many countries, and into the lives and hearts of so many different people. I am sad to see these types of replies... Where is your wisdom? You need to learn what to say, when to say it and how to say it... You come across very smug, and I am afraid to tell you that, that which you intended to communicate really backfired on you! I will stand with the Apostle and say, " It is because of you (Christians like you) that the Name of God is blasphemed among the gentiles... "

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Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 16:10:32 -0000

Subject: [ ] Re: RELIGIOUS posts

, I've met you, and am grateful for you, and we share the same

bond having children with autism. Yes, but we do differ in our

beliefs, but the scripture says, Enter through the narrow gate, For

wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and

many enter through it.But small is the gate and narrow the road that

leads to life , and only a few find it. , this is the word of

God, you need not argue with us, but if you doubt take it to the Lord

in prayer. And yes I am glad my mind is small, as a childs, I come to

the Lord as a child would in faith, and I am glad that my mind is

small and narrow, and you need to know that the innocence of your

child is a one way gate into heaven, and one day she will be their,

with or without you. In Christs love we will share, and pray for you

, Leah

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >And that thankfulness does NOT exclude trying to help our

> > children

> > > > >get better. I have a friend who says I should just accept

> > > > >this " cross " and know that God has given it to us for His

> > reasons.

> > > > >BUT, I DO believe we're to do whatever we can to help our

son get

> > > > >better, not out of selfishness, as this friend subtly

suggests,

> > but

> > > > >for his own benefit. It's been in this active fight that

we've

> > > > >overcome the most hurdles, whether they be spiritual,

emotional,

> > or

> > > > >intellectual. There are SO MANY positive changes in our

family's

> > > > >life as a result of this struggle to accept, work with, and

fight

> > our

> > > > >son's autism.

> > > >

> > > > I agree! I would never have the strength to keep fighting this

> > thing

> > > > without my faith in Jesus. He has held me together. I would

never

> > want to

> > > > be doing this on my own. Lynette

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >=======================================================

> > > > >

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Dear Andy,

You must be tired of coming to my defense. I'll keep my mouth (uh,

keyboard) shut and hopefully this whole subject will just go away.

I do appreciate your gallantry,

[ ] Re: RELIGIOUS posts

> Let's just leave it at this:

>

> Those moved to make religious postings will use an appropriate subject

> line so that those of us who don't wish to read them can avoid doing

> so.

>

> 's post below is no more 'in your face' than telling someone who

> doesn't want to talk about religion that you are going to pray for

> them. I thought the point of prayer was to ask something of God - it

> should make no difference to him whether you have gone out of your way

> to alienate the subject of your prayer before you talk to Him about

> it.

>

> Andy

>

>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >And that thankfulness does NOT exclude trying to help our

> > > > > children

> > > > > > > >get better. I have a friend who says I should just

> accept

> > > > > > > >this " cross " and know that God has given it to us for His

> > > > > reasons.

> > > > > > > >BUT, I DO believe we're to do whatever we can to help our

> > > son get

> > > > > > > >better, not out of selfishness, as this friend subtly

> > > suggests,

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > >for his own benefit. It's been in this active fight

> that

> > > we've

> > > > > > > >overcome the most hurdles, whether they be spiritual,

> > > emotional,

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > >intellectual. There are SO MANY positive changes in our

> > > family's

> > > > > > > >life as a result of this struggle to accept, work with,

> and

> > > fight

> > > > > our

> > > > > > > >son's autism.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I agree! I would never have the strength to keep fighting

> this

> > > > > thing

> > > > > > > without my faith in Jesus. He has held me together. I

> would

> > > never

> > > > > want to

> > > > > > > be doing this on my own. Lynette

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >=======================================================

> > > > > > > >

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What about discussing biblical nutrition or food restrictions?

Because fasting, both intermittent, and longer, is a part of many spiritual traditions, it would seem to fit in with our understanding of CRON and longevity.

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