Re: One other question

[Guest guest]

HI Jean:

Untreated OCD tends to get worse over time. However, like quite a few

other mental illnesses, people with OCD seem to improve slightly in middle

age. This information comes from a Scandinavian study using the same

doctor evaluating patients over a forty year span.

As far as an individual we cannot know what the course of their illness

will be. OCD can surprise us, but no matter how the disorder manifests, if

the sufferer wants to try treatment, they are very likely to be greatly

successful. One thing we do know is that treatment makes a tremendous

difference. 75% of people with OCD improve when treated with E & RP and

medication and that is a wonderful success rate compared to other serious

illnesses.

As much as we feel we must know why our beloved OCDers do a certain

symptom, unless we are working on their hierarchy and specifically

designing exposures, which is best done with a qualified mental health

professional, it is best for us to leave it up to them. When we ask for

details we tend to reinforce their OCD by making their symptoms seem

important, rather than junk mail or error messages in their brain.

The more important the sufferer feels their symptoms are the more they

bother them. We have learned to joke about symptoms as a way of making

them much more fleeting. Poop around the place is something that it is very

easy to joke about, although it is important to make sure this is done in a

respectful manner.

Obviously has lots of checking compulsions around poop. Please

tell him that bowel and urinary obsessions are incredibly common and many

other people with OCD deal with the same thing. He will learn in treatment

how to boss back OCD when it sends him error messages, and he will be back

in charge of his life, not OCD. OCD has a mean way of attacking its

sufferers in the most embarrassing ways about private things like pooping,

sex, religious observations, harm to self and others, and he will be

learning how to spit in the eye of OCD. This may seem impossible right

now, but if my son, Steve, could do it, so can your MIchael.

Good luck, take care, aloha, Kathy (h)

kathyh@...

P.S. OCD had lots of rules for Steve about bathroom items, and my dh would

wipe Steve's behind for him till he was 8 years old. I had no idea at the

time what was up and thought it was my dh's problem that he was too much of

a good dad. We have had lots of poop in odd places, and you just learn to

treat it like no big deal at all. K.

At 02:20 AM 05/09/2001 +0000, you wrote:

>Just want to double-check. With having moderate OCD, mostly

>obsessions - still it can mean that next time his ocd flares up (or

>the time after that) it could show up with more compulsions? or

>different obsessions? Right? Or can moderate OCD this time end up

>being severe (or mild) OCD when it breaks out another time?

>

>Tonight, Tom asked him why he stood up to do bm's. Remember, he's

>told me that he doesn't like the feel of the seat, so that's why.

>Well, tonight he told Tom that he gets bm in his pants, feels it to

>see if it's wet, and then tries to wipe it off and that's how it gets

>on the wall and floor and everything. Just another excuse, right? Of

>maybe he's doing both things?! Sure hope the pscyh will be able to

>pry the real story out of him.

>-Jean

[Guest guest]

Hi Pamela,

High cholesterol is actually a good thing, check out this link below

for more info

http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/benefits_cholest.html

As much as Cholesterol is apart of arteriosclerosis, its not

cholesterol's fault. Oxidative stress (caused by the consumption of

rancid vegetables oils), and a lack of vitamin B, magnesium, and

vitamin E all have been linked to heart disease in more concrete terms

than cholesterol. The studies that link high cholesterol diets to

heart disease are only weak statistical correlations, and there is a

growing body of evidence that proves this. See the link below for more

info.

http://www.thincs.org/

When the body experiences oxidative stress along with poor nutrition,

cholesterol may stick to the walls of certain blood vessels. Reducing

cholesterol may slow this process for a time, but will not stop it as

the problem is not the cholesterol but the lack of certain nutrients

and stress. And as the body desperately needs cholesterol, reducing

cholesterol will only lead to other health problems, like endocrine

disorders and depression.

I am glad your mother exercises, as mild exercise can never hurt, and

is often very helpful. But as most doctor's dietary advice usually

recommend a reduction in cholesterol, I would causation your mother

about following such dietary guidelines. Heart disease as well as

hypothyroidism are more signs that her system is out of whack and

poorly nourished, than that she has too much cholesterol.

I would recommend that you review Bee's files, and see if you can

encourage your mom to start Bee diet. Even if you feel your mom

doesn't have Candida, Bee's diet is a healing diet, and provides all

the nutrients a body needs to heal itself. Many members have had

their thyroid functions normalize on Bee's diet, and since your mom

has not progressed to where she needs medication to deal with the

issue, now is the best time to use the healthy foods, vitamins, and

nutrients that bee recommends to help bring her body back into balance.

Here are two links to info Bee has about thyroid function

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat19.php

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat20.php

Hope this helps

Jecca

P.S. Both cholesterol and thyroid issues have come up in past post.

You may find it informative to also do a search through old post and

read what other members have said about both issues.

--- " pamelalv " <prov31mom23@...> wrote:

My mother, who is 67 years old and has always been in good health and

believed in a pro-active, preventive approach to health problems, has

recently been diagnosed with high Cholesterol and hypothyroidism.

Again, I know this isn't a cholesterol and thyroid forum but I know

that health issues can be interrelated and have a hidden source. Any

guidance concerning these would be appreciated. At this point, she

has managed to persuade her doctor to take a wait and see approach and

has not been prescribed any medications although they've been

mentioned. My mother is trying to be diligent in her diet (as

prescribed by her doctor) and exercise (which she has been diligent

about anyways) to try to get things under control. Any information

concerning alternative approaches to managing these problems would be

welcome.