Re: My new diet

[Guest guest]

Uh........people.

Roni

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

Who is we?

cw

-- Re: My new " diet "

You're right.

Roni

AthleticItaliano@... wrote:

I thought that we are not supposed to eat raw spinach.

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[Guest guest]

HOw dow spinach remove iron from our bodies?

Re: My new " diet "

Very lean meat,(trimmed all visible fat), poultry (no skin, trimmed fat),

fish, eggs,

low fat cheeses, low fat (no trans fat margarine), low fat mayo.

One of the tricks I used was to make veal or chicken or fish cutlets and

bread them

using parmesan cheese instead of bread crumbs. You don't need anything in

the

parmesan except maybe a bit of pepper if you like that. It's amazing the

crust it

makes, you'd never know what it was made from when served. I don't know how

much

cooking you do, but Atkins has a cookbook (look for the low fat version) and

there

are many good ideas in it. He even has a way to make bread.

Roni

AthleticItaliano@ <mailto:AthleticItaliano%40aol.com> aol.com wrote:

Roni,

What kind of proteins and fats did you eat?

I am guessing you did not eat any vegetables or fruits the first week.

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Oh, I couldn't tell if you had a specific group of people in mind. i.e.

Thyroid patients.

cw

-- Re: My new " diet "

You're right.

Roni

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I found this site on agave nectar:

Mineral-Rich Low-Glycemic Sweetener Agave nectar is a natural

liquid sweetener with a low glycemic index and a fruity, delicious taste that

will enhance the flavor of any food or beverage. An exciting new product, it is

extracted from the agave plant, a cactus-like plant that has been used by Native

Americans for thousands of years.

Of the 136 species of agave in Mexico, the blue agave—Agave tequilana weber

azul—is considered the finest in the world. This is the agave from which our

Premium Organic Agave nectar is made. Blue agave nectar is an excellent

sweetener for diabetics, carbohydrate-intolerant hypoglycemics, and anyone who

wants to avoid wide fluctuations in their blood sugar levels.

Blue agave is higher in fructose-producing carbohydrates than other types of

agave, and has a glycemic index of 10-11. Because it is so high in fructose

(about 85-90% of its sugar content) and fructose does not stimulate digestive

insulin secretion, agave nectar absorbs slowly into the bloodstream and has less

impact on blood sugar levels than other natural sweeteners. It has a lower

glycemic index than honey, and is at least 25% sweeter than either sugar or

honey, so you can replace them in any recipe by using 25% less agave syrup.

The beneficial qualities of our agave nectar are numerous:

Low glycemic, to help keep blood sugar levels in balance

Rich in minerals

Certified organic

Low in calories

Safe for children

Good for sweetening all types of beverages and foods

With a flavor somewhere between honey and maple syrup, agave nectar is an

excellent sweetener for teas (hot and iced), smoothies, desserts, energy bars,

or any cooked or raw food recipe. As it is highly soluble and will not

crystallize or harden in the bottle, it is ideal for use in cold beverages and

to sweeten cold foods. It particularly enhances the flavor of fruity food and

beverages, and can be used instead of fruit juice concentrates in spreads and

yogurts. It also increases the water retention properties of food, and will add

to the shelf life of breads and other baked goods.

We offer two varieties of agave nectar:

Premium Dark – 85% fructose, made with 100% Agave tequilana weber azul. A

mineral rich, dark syrup with a vanilla-like aroma. Truly one of a kind!

Premium Light – 85% fructose, made with 100% Agave tequilana weber azul,

filtered to clarify the syrup. The light has the natural solids removed through

a fine filtration process, creating a liquid that can be used in recipes that

require a more neutral base.

---------------------------------

Premium Quality from the Blue Agave Our blue agave nectar is derived from

the carbohydrates present in the agave plant, using a totally natural thermic

(heat) process with no chemicals involved. To produce our organic agave nectar,

juice is expressed from the core of the agave (the piña). The juice is then

selected to become dark agave nectar or filtered to create light agave nectar.

Both of our Premium Organic Agave nectars contain naturally higher

concentrations of fructose than other agave syrups on the market, because they

are made from premium blue agave plants, using precise processing techniques.

Our farmers in Mexico use HPLC to make chromatographic studies on sugars,

monitoring closely the mineral and sugar concentrations of our agave nectars—the

best available in the market.

Interestingly, the production of agave nectar is very similar to the way a bee

creates honey. The bee adds enzymes to the complex sugars of nectar, which

changes it into the simple sugars that make up honey. It is also through

enzymatic action that the complex sugar found in agave juice is changed into a

simple sugar sweetener—agave nectar. (*Which makes it the same as table sugar.)

The raw agave juice is regularly harvested from living plants by Indian

peoples native to central Mexico. To do so, they must slice off the top of the

plant and hollow out its core. Then the plant is capped with a stone. The

pineapple-shaped agave plant secretes its nectar into the center of the plant,

rather than into flowers like most plants do. The nectar collects in the hollow

center for several days, after which the milky white “juice” is removed by

ladle, one plant at a time. In a way, the process is similar to tapping a tree

for maple syrup collection.

The name agave comes from the Greek word for “noble.” Organic agave syrup (and

tequila) is made from the sap from hearts (piñas) of the agave or maguey

(pronounced “mah-gay”) plant. This plant is actually related to the lily and

amaryllis (it has its own genus, Agave). It is known as a succulent and,

although it shares a common habitat with many cacti, it is not one itself and

has a different life cycle. A mature agave plant has leaves 5-8 feet tall, and

is 7-12 feet in diameter. It has a lifespan of 8-15 years, depending on species,

growing conditions, and climate.

Several different species of agave are allowed for use in the production of

mescal, an alcohol similar to, yet quite different than tequila, and these other

species of agave are used to make most agave syrups. But of the 136 species of

agave in Mexico, the blue agave—Agave tequilana weber azul—is the only one

allowed for use in tequila production and it is also the only agave used to make

our Premium Agave Nectars.

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote:

I understand. Blessings on your healing journey, and perhaps a cleanse

will help you a lot too. www.ariseandshine.com or www.modernmanna.org

have fun on your trip!!

AthleticItaliano@... wrote:

I will look into the agave nectar and stevia.

I don't eat seafood of ANY kind.

I am only doing this for three weeks till I go on vacation.

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A huge difference in what?

Roni

P.S. Here's info on xylitol

Properties

One teaspoon of xylitol contains 9.6 calories, as compared to one teaspoon of

sugar, which has 15 calories. Xylitol contains zero net effective

carbohydrates,[citation needed] whereas sugar contains 4 grams per teaspoon.

Xylitol has virtually no aftertaste, and is advertised as " safe for diabetics

and individuals with hyperglycemia " . This is because sugar-alcohols have less

impact on a person's blood sugar than regular sugars[4].

[edit] Dietary use worldwide Xylitol is widely used in Finland, its " home

country " . Many Finnish confectioneries employ xylitol, or have a xylitol version

available. Virtually all chewing gum sold in Finland, and in the rest of Europe,

is sweetened with xylitol.

The formerly Spanish company, now Italian, Chupa Chups makes a xylitol-based

breath mint, Smint, that it markets worldwide.

In China, Japan, and South Korea, xylitol is found in wide assortment of

chewing gums. There is brand of gum named " Xylitol " in all three countries;

Japan also has a brand called " Xylish " . In addition, when Extra introduced

xylitol-containing products to Hong Kong and Guangdong, the word " xylitol " is

transcribed into Cantonese as " ŽNépék " (Jyutping: saai3 lok6 to4), which

literally means " suntan camel " , and the camel is used as a figurative icon in

its advertisements.[5]

In 2004, popular North American Trident gum was reformulated to include

xylitol, but not as the main sweetener (which are still sorbitol and maltitol).

Also sold in North America is Carefree Koolerz, which is a sugarless gum

sweetened exclusively with xylitol. It is also found in Smokey Mountain

Snuff,[6] and IceBreakers brand Ice Cubes Gum from Hershey.

In 2006, Wrigley Jr. Company reformulated their Orbit gum to contain

xylitol and released it under the name " Orbit Complete. "

[edit] Medical applications

[edit] Dental care Xylitol is a " toothfriendly " sugar. In addition to not

encouraging tooth decay (by replacing dietary sugars), xylitol may actively aid

in repairing minor cavities caused by dental caries.[citation needed] Early

studies from Finland in the 1970s found that a group chewing sucrose gum had

2.92 decayed, missing, or filled (dmf) teeth compared to 1.04 in the group

chewing xylitol gums.[7] In another study, researchers had mothers chew xylitol

gum 3 months after delivery until their children were 2 years old. The

researchers found that the xylitol group had " a 70% reduction in caries

(dmf). " [7] Recent research[8] confirms a plaque-reducing effect and suggests

that the compound, having some chemical properties similar to sucrose, attracts

and then " starves " harmful micro-organisms, allowing the mouth to remineralize

damaged teeth with less interruption. (However, this same effect also interferes

with yeast micro-organisms and others, so xylitol is

inappropriate for making yeast-based bread, for instance.)

Xylitol based products are allowed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to

make the medical claim that they do not promote dental caries.[9]

A recent study demonstrated that a water additive for animals containing

xylitol was effective in reducing plaque and calculus accumulation in cats.[10]

[edit] Diabetes Possessing approximately 40% less food energy,[11] xylitol is

a low-calorie alternative to table sugar. Absorbed more slowly than sugar, it

doesn't contribute to high blood sugar levels or the resulting hyperglycemia

caused by insufficient insulin response.

[edit] Osteoporosis Xylitol also appears to have potential as a treatment for

osteoporosis. A group of Finnish researchers has found that dietary xylitol

prevents weakening of bones in laboratory rats, and actually improves bone

density.[12][13]

[edit] Ear and upper respiratory infections Studies have shown that xylitol

chewing gum can help prevent ear infections[14] (acute otitis media); the act of

chewing and swallowing assists with the disposal of earwax and clearing the

middle ear, whilst the presence of xylitol prevents the growth of bacteria in

the eustachian tubes (auditory tubes or pharyngotympanic tubes) which connect

the nose and ear.[15] This action that xylitol has on bacteria in the back of

the nose is best explained on the site dealing with the nasal application of

xylitol.[16] When bacteria enter the body they hold on to the tissues by hanging

on to a variety of sugar complexes. The open nature of xylitol and its ability

to form many different sugar-like structures appears to interfere with the

ability of many bacteria to adhere.[17] Xylitol can be applied nasally through a

saline solution containing xylitol, such as Xlear Nasal Wash /commercial

reference/.

[edit] Candida yeast A recent report suggests that consumption of xylitol may

help control oral infections of Candida yeast; in contrast, galactose, glucose

and sucrose may increase proliferation.[18]

[edit] Health concerns Xylitol, like most sugar alcohols, can have a mild

laxative effect at high doses. It has no known toxicity, and people have

consumed as much as 400 grams daily for long periods with no apparent ill

effects.[19]

Dogs ingesting foods containing high doses of xylitol (greater than 100mg

xylitol consumed per kg bodyweight) have presented with low blood sugar

(hypoglycaemia) which can be life-threatening.[20] Low blood sugar can manifest

as loss of coordination, depression, collapse and seizures as soon as 30 minutes

after ingestion.[21][22] Intake of very high doses of xylitol (greater than 500

- 1000 mg/kg bwt) has also been implicated in liver failure in 8 dogs, which can

be fatal.[23]

One reported death occurred in a standard poodle who ate five or six cookies

sweetened with xylitol.[24]

As humans can tolerate much higher doses of xylitol, large amounts of xylitol

can be found in even small quantities of food such as sugar-free gums, baked

goods and tooth pastes.

Dogs that have eaten products containing high levels of xylitol might need

immediate medical attention even if they are not yet showing illness. Sick dogs

(vomiting, weak, seizuring, etc) are likely to need aggressive veterinary

treatment and close monitoring of blood values.[25][26][27]

[edit] Other applications of xylitol

This section may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards.

Please improve this article if you can (November 2007).

ASICS Corp., a Japanese company, markets a line of women's t-shirts with

xylitol infused into the fabric. Xylitol, like several other sugar alcohols,

exhibits a cooling effect in the mouth. The t-shirts are intended to utilize

this same property to keep a person cooler in warm weather.[28]. This

application has also been used by Yonex to make shirts.[29]

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

Well I notice a huge difference when I eat spinach!

cw

-- Re: My new " diet "

Very lean meat,(trimmed all visible fat), poultry (no skin, trimmed fat),

fish, eggs,

low fat cheeses, low fat (no trans fat margarine), low fat mayo.

One of the tricks I used was to make veal or chicken or fish cutlets and

bread them

using parmesan cheese instead of bread crumbs. You don't need anything in

the

parmesan except maybe a bit of pepper if you like that. It's amazing the

crust it

makes, you'd never know what it was made from when served. I don't know how

much

cooking you do, but Atkins has a cookbook (look for the low fat version) and

there

are many good ideas in it. He even has a way to make bread.

Roni

AthleticItaliano@... wrote:

Roni,

What kind of proteins and fats did you eat?

I am guessing you did not eat any vegetables or fruits the first week.

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That's the trouble with getting more than a smidgeon of knowledge, you end up

with

a multitude of messy facts that will keep you up at night. LOL

Roni

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> So please tell me about a known carcinogen in organic raw celery! I eat

> lot's of it!

The main bad actors in celery are the furans, psoralens, and caffeic

acid. Here's a partial list of other things to lose sleep over. Bon

Appétit! Notice how many of these are in coffee. That reminds me, I need

to brew some more.

- Chuck

Naturally Occurring Mutagens and Carcinogens Found in Foods and Beverages

Written By: the American Council on Science and Health

Published In: Environment News

Publication Date: November 1, 2002

Publisher: The Heartland Institute

Acetaldehyde (apples, bread, coffee, tomatoes)—mutagen and potent rodent

carcinogen

Acrylamide (bread, rolls)—rodent and human neurotoxin; rodent carcinogen

Aflatoxin (nuts)—mutagen and potent rodent carcinogen; also a human

carcinogen

Allyl isothiocyanate (arugula, broccoli, mustard)—mutagen and rodent

carcinogen

Aniline (carrots)—rodent carcinogen

Benzaldehyde (apples, coffee, tomatoes)—rodent carcinogen

Benzene (butter, coffee, roast beef)—rodent carcinogen

Benzo(a)pyrene (bread, coffee, pumpkin pie, rolls, tea)—mutagen and

rodent carcinogen

Benzofuran (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Benzyl acetate (jasmine tea)—rodent carcinogen

Caffeic acid (apples, carrots, celery, cherry tomatoes, coffee, grapes,

lettuce, mangos, pears, potatoes)—rodent carcinogen

Catechol (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Coumarin (cinnamon in pies)—rodent carcinogen

1,2,5,6-dibenz(a)anthracene (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Estragole (apples, basil)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl alcohol (bread, red wine, rolls)—rodent and human carcinogen

Ethyl acrylate (pineapple)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl benzene (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl carbamate (bread, rolls, red wine)—mutagen and rodent carcinogen

Furan and furan derivatives (bread, onions, celery, mushrooms, sweet

potatoes, rolls, cranberry sauce, coffee)—many are mutagens

Furfural (bread, coffee, nuts, rolls, sweet potatoes)—furan derivative

and rodent carcinogen

Heterocyclic amines (roast beef, turkey)—mutagens and rodent carcinogens

Hydrazines (mushrooms)—mutagens and rodent carcinogens

Hydrogen peroxide (coffee, tomatoes)—mutagen and rodent carcinogen

Hydroquinone (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

d-limonene (black pepper, mangos)—rodent carcinogen

4-methylcatechol (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Methyl eugenol (basil, cinnamon and nutmeg in apple and pumpkin

pies)—rodent carcinogen

Psoralens (celery, parsley)—mutagens; rodent and human carcinogens

Quercetin glycosides (apples, onions, tea, tomatoes)—mutagens and rodent

carcinogens

Safrole (nutmeg in apple and pumpkin pies, black pepper)—rodent carcinogen

[Guest guest]

Aha! If you decide to ignore information about the things that you want to eat,

then you

have to allow the same behavior in other people. It's called free choice, and

that includes

the choice to do the wrong things for ourselves, even if we know the

difference.

Roni

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

I don't believe it. I'll just keep enjoying my celery. Thanks:)

cw

-- Re: My new " diet "

Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> So please tell me about a known carcinogen in organic raw celery! I eat

> lot's of it!

The main bad actors in celery are the furans, psoralens, and caffeic

acid. Here's a partial list of other things to lose sleep over. Bon

Appétit! Notice how many of these are in coffee. That reminds me, I need

to brew some more.

- Chuck

Naturally Occurring Mutagens and Carcinogens Found in Foods and Beverages

Written By: the American Council on Science and Health

Published In: Environment News

Publication Date: November 1, 2002

Publisher: The Heartland Institute

Acetaldehyde (apples, bread, coffee, tomatoes)—mutagen and potent rodent

carcinogen

Acrylamide (bread, rolls)—rodent and human neurotoxin; rodent carcinogen

Aflatoxin (nuts)—mutagen and potent rodent carcinogen; also a human

carcinogen

Allyl isothiocyanate (arugula, broccoli, mustard)—mutagen and rodent

carcinogen

Aniline (carrots)—rodent carcinogen

Benzaldehyde (apples, coffee, tomatoes)—rodent carcinogen

Benzene (butter, coffee, roast beef)—rodent carcinogen

Benzo(a)pyrene (bread, coffee, pumpkin pie, rolls, tea)—mutagen and

rodent carcinogen

Benzofuran (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Benzyl acetate (jasmine tea)—rodent carcinogen

Caffeic acid (apples, carrots, celery, cherry tomatoes, coffee, grapes,

lettuce, mangos, pears, potatoes)—rodent carcinogen

Catechol (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Coumarin (cinnamon in pies)—rodent carcinogen

1,2,5,6-dibenz(a)anthracene (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Estragole (apples, basil)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl alcohol (bread, red wine, rolls)—rodent and human carcinogen

Ethyl acrylate (pineapple)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl benzene (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl carbamate (bread, rolls, red wine)—mutagen and rodent carcinogen

Furan and furan derivatives (bread, onions, celery, mushrooms, sweet

potatoes, rolls, cranberry sauce, coffee)—many are mutagens

Furfural (bread, coffee, nuts, rolls, sweet potatoes)—furan derivative

and rodent carcinogen

Heterocyclic amines (roast beef, turkey)—mutagens and rodent carcinogens

Hydrazines (mushrooms)—mutagens and rodent carcinogens

Hydrogen peroxide (coffee, tomatoes)—mutagen and rodent carcinogen

Hydroquinone (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

d-limonene (black pepper, mangos)—rodent carcinogen

4-methylcatechol (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Methyl eugenol (basil, cinnamon and nutmeg in apple and pumpkin

pies)—rodent carcinogen

Psoralens (celery, parsley)—mutagens; rodent and human carcinogens

Quercetin glycosides (apples, onions, tea, tomatoes)—mutagens and rodent

carcinogens

Safrole (nutmeg in apple and pumpkin pies, black pepper)—rodent carcinogen

[Guest guest]

Spinach has about twice the amount of iron per serving as other iron-rich green

vegetables. Iron enters the body as either heme iron or nonheme iron. All of the

iron in plants is nonheme iron, which absorbs into the body slowly. Mixing

vitamin C with spinach can increase iron absorption. Only about 10% of the iron

in spinach gets absorbed into the human body. Because spinach has a high levels

of oxalate, it can actually remove iron from the body. Spinach has a great

deal of calcium, but the human body can only absorb 5% of the calcium in spinach

(as contrasted with being able to absorb half of the calcium from broccoli). The

high oxalate content of spinach decreases the absorption of calcium. Oxalate can

contribute to gout and kidney stones, especially if combined with excessive

vitamin D.

Fresh, steamed, or quickly boiled spinach is high in vitamin A, vitamin C,

vitamin E, and several vital antioxidants. Spinach is a source of folic acid

(and was the source of the first purified form of folic acid). Boiling spinach

destroys the folic acid. A half cup of spinach has about one half the

recommended daily supply of beta carotene.

Eating a half-pound of strawberries or spinach has as much antioxidant

effect as high doses of vitamin C, helping the body defuse oxygen radicals that

can damage cells, as reported by L. Prior and Guochua Cao of the USDA

Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging at Tufts University in Boston, Mass.

Women were fed juice made from strawberry and spinach extracts from 8 to 10

ounces of fresh produce. Drinking red wine increased the antioxidants

circulating the blood by 15%. Drinking the strawberry or spinach juice or 1,250

milligrams of Vitamin C resulted in a 20% increase.

Spinach helps keep the liver clean and healthy.

Chinese herbalism: Chinese gender: yin (cool)

Chinese flavor: sweet

According to some jazz musicians, Popeye the Sailor Man eating spinach

with a pipe was a metaphor for a guy smoking cannabis in order to win the love

of a woman (Olive Oyl). Olive Oyl also stood for small family farmer and Bluto

stood for big business.

spinach flowering

Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: HOw dow spinach remove iron

from our bodies?

Re: My new " diet "

Very lean meat,(trimmed all visible fat), poultry (no skin, trimmed fat),

fish, eggs,

low fat cheeses, low fat (no trans fat margarine), low fat mayo.

One of the tricks I used was to make veal or chicken or fish cutlets and

bread them

using parmesan cheese instead of bread crumbs. You don't need anything in

the

parmesan except maybe a bit of pepper if you like that. It's amazing the

crust it

makes, you'd never know what it was made from when served. I don't know how

much

cooking you do, but Atkins has a cookbook (look for the low fat version) and

there

are many good ideas in it. He even has a way to make bread.

Roni

AthleticItaliano@ <mailto:AthleticItaliano%40aol.com> aol.com wrote:

Roni,

What kind of proteins and fats did you eat?

I am guessing you did not eat any vegetables or fruits the first week.

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[Guest guest]

Yes - and worrying about everything we do and eat causes stress which is

considered to be the BIGGEST killer. Happy New Year everyone x

Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: That's the trouble with

getting more than a smidgeon of knowledge, you end up with

a multitude of messy facts that will keep you up at night. LOL

Roni

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> So please tell me about a known carcinogen in organic raw celery! I eat

> lot's of it!

The main bad actors in celery are the furans, psoralens, and caffeic

acid. Here's a partial list of other things to lose sleep over. Bon

Appétit! Notice how many of these are in coffee. That reminds me, I need

to brew some more.

- Chuck

Naturally Occurring Mutagens and Carcinogens Found in Foods and Beverages

Written By: the American Council on Science and Health

Published In: Environment News

Publication Date: November 1, 2002

Publisher: The Heartland Institute

Acetaldehyde (apples, bread, coffee, tomatoes)—mutagen and potent rodent

carcinogen

Acrylamide (bread, rolls)—rodent and human neurotoxin; rodent carcinogen

Aflatoxin (nuts)—mutagen and potent rodent carcinogen; also a human

carcinogen

Allyl isothiocyanate (arugula, broccoli, mustard)—mutagen and rodent

carcinogen

Aniline (carrots)—rodent carcinogen

Benzaldehyde (apples, coffee, tomatoes)—rodent carcinogen

Benzene (butter, coffee, roast beef)—rodent carcinogen

Benzo(a)pyrene (bread, coffee, pumpkin pie, rolls, tea)—mutagen and

rodent carcinogen

Benzofuran (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Benzyl acetate (jasmine tea)—rodent carcinogen

Caffeic acid (apples, carrots, celery, cherry tomatoes, coffee, grapes,

lettuce, mangos, pears, potatoes)—rodent carcinogen

Catechol (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Coumarin (cinnamon in pies)—rodent carcinogen

1,2,5,6-dibenz(a)anthracene (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Estragole (apples, basil)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl alcohol (bread, red wine, rolls)—rodent and human carcinogen

Ethyl acrylate (pineapple)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl benzene (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl carbamate (bread, rolls, red wine)—mutagen and rodent carcinogen

Furan and furan derivatives (bread, onions, celery, mushrooms, sweet

potatoes, rolls, cranberry sauce, coffee)—many are mutagens

Furfural (bread, coffee, nuts, rolls, sweet potatoes)—furan derivative

and rodent carcinogen

Heterocyclic amines (roast beef, turkey)—mutagens and rodent carcinogens

Hydrazines (mushrooms)—mutagens and rodent carcinogens

Hydrogen peroxide (coffee, tomatoes)—mutagen and rodent carcinogen

Hydroquinone (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

d-limonene (black pepper, mangos)—rodent carcinogen

4-methylcatechol (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Methyl eugenol (basil, cinnamon and nutmeg in apple and pumpkin

pies)—rodent carcinogen

Psoralens (celery, parsley)—mutagens; rodent and human carcinogens

Quercetin glycosides (apples, onions, tea, tomatoes)—mutagens and rodent

carcinogens

Safrole (nutmeg in apple and pumpkin pies, black pepper)—rodent carcinogen

[Guest guest]

It's called denial. I drink Dr pepper everyday (it's my coffee). I guess

there is no perfect food, well besides pizza, so until God drops the manna I

guess we'll just all die from something huh.

cw

-- Re: My new " diet "

Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> So please tell me about a known carcinogen in organic raw celery! I eat

> lot's of it!

The main bad actors in celery are the furans, psoralens, and caffeic

acid. Here's a partial list of other things to lose sleep over. Bon

Appétit! Notice how many of these are in coffee. That reminds me, I need

to brew some more.

- Chuck

Naturally Occurring Mutagens and Carcinogens Found in Foods and Beverages

Written By: the American Council on Science and Health

Published In: Environment News

Publication Date: November 1, 2002

Publisher: The Heartland Institute

Acetaldehyde (apples, bread, coffee, tomatoes)—mutagen and potent rodent

carcinogen

Acrylamide (bread, rolls)—rodent and human neurotoxin; rodent carcinogen

Aflatoxin (nuts)—mutagen and potent rodent carcinogen; also a human

carcinogen

Allyl isothiocyanate (arugula, broccoli, mustard)—mutagen and rodent

carcinogen

Aniline (carrots)—rodent carcinogen

Benzaldehyde (apples, coffee, tomatoes)—rodent carcinogen

Benzene (butter, coffee, roast beef)—rodent carcinogen

Benzo(a)pyrene (bread, coffee, pumpkin pie, rolls, tea)—mutagen and

rodent carcinogen

Benzofuran (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Benzyl acetate (jasmine tea)—rodent carcinogen

Caffeic acid (apples, carrots, celery, cherry tomatoes, coffee, grapes,

lettuce, mangos, pears, potatoes)—rodent carcinogen

Catechol (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Coumarin (cinnamon in pies)—rodent carcinogen

1,2,5,6-dibenz(a)anthracene (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Estragole (apples, basil)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl alcohol (bread, red wine, rolls)—rodent and human carcinogen

Ethyl acrylate (pineapple)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl benzene (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl carbamate (bread, rolls, red wine)—mutagen and rodent carcinogen

Furan and furan derivatives (bread, onions, celery, mushrooms, sweet

potatoes, rolls, cranberry sauce, coffee)—many are mutagens

Furfural (bread, coffee, nuts, rolls, sweet potatoes)—furan derivative

and rodent carcinogen

Heterocyclic amines (roast beef, turkey)—mutagens and rodent carcinogens

Hydrazines (mushrooms)—mutagens and rodent carcinogens

Hydrogen peroxide (coffee, tomatoes)—mutagen and rodent carcinogen

Hydroquinone (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

d-limonene (black pepper, mangos)—rodent carcinogen

4-methylcatechol (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Methyl eugenol (basil, cinnamon and nutmeg in apple and pumpkin

pies)—rodent carcinogen

Psoralens (celery, parsley)—mutagens; rodent and human carcinogens

Quercetin glycosides (apples, onions, tea, tomatoes)—mutagens and rodent

carcinogens

Safrole (nutmeg in apple and pumpkin pies, black pepper)—rodent carcinogen

[Guest guest]

Crystal wrote:

>

>

> I don't believe it. I'll just keep enjoying my celery....

Me too. The point is that small levels of toxins are not toxic.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Dusty wrote:

>

>

> HOw dow spinach remove iron from our bodies?

Not from the body but from other foods. The oxalic acid in the spinach

prevents iron absorption.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Kinda like tea?

cw

-- Re: My new " diet "

Dusty wrote:

>

>

> HOw dow spinach remove iron from our bodies?

Not from the body but from other foods. The oxalic acid in the spinach

prevents iron absorption.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Crystal wrote:

>

>

> Kinda like tea?

Exactly, except I would count the fluoride content of tea more

threatening to the thyroid.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

That's right. We all choose our own poison.

Roni

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

It's called denial. I drink Dr pepper everyday (it's my coffee). I

guess

there is no perfect food, well besides pizza, so until God drops the manna I

guess we'll just all die from something huh.

cw

-- Re: My new " diet "

Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> So please tell me about a known carcinogen in organic raw celery! I eat

> lot's of it!

The main bad actors in celery are the furans, psoralens, and caffeic

acid. Here's a partial list of other things to lose sleep over. Bon

Appétit! Notice how many of these are in coffee. That reminds me, I need

to brew some more.

- Chuck

Naturally Occurring Mutagens and Carcinogens Found in Foods and Beverages

Written By: the American Council on Science and Health

Published In: Environment News

Publication Date: November 1, 2002

Publisher: The Heartland Institute

Acetaldehyde (apples, bread, coffee, tomatoes)—mutagen and potent rodent

carcinogen

Acrylamide (bread, rolls)—rodent and human neurotoxin; rodent carcinogen

Aflatoxin (nuts)—mutagen and potent rodent carcinogen; also a human

carcinogen

Allyl isothiocyanate (arugula, broccoli, mustard)—mutagen and rodent

carcinogen

Aniline (carrots)—rodent carcinogen

Benzaldehyde (apples, coffee, tomatoes)—rodent carcinogen

Benzene (butter, coffee, roast beef)—rodent carcinogen

Benzo(a)pyrene (bread, coffee, pumpkin pie, rolls, tea)—mutagen and

rodent carcinogen

Benzofuran (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Benzyl acetate (jasmine tea)—rodent carcinogen

Caffeic acid (apples, carrots, celery, cherry tomatoes, coffee, grapes,

lettuce, mangos, pears, potatoes)—rodent carcinogen

Catechol (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Coumarin (cinnamon in pies)—rodent carcinogen

1,2,5,6-dibenz(a)anthracene (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Estragole (apples, basil)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl alcohol (bread, red wine, rolls)—rodent and human carcinogen

Ethyl acrylate (pineapple)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl benzene (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Ethyl carbamate (bread, rolls, red wine)—mutagen and rodent carcinogen

Furan and furan derivatives (bread, onions, celery, mushrooms, sweet

potatoes, rolls, cranberry sauce, coffee)—many are mutagens

Furfural (bread, coffee, nuts, rolls, sweet potatoes)—furan derivative

and rodent carcinogen

Heterocyclic amines (roast beef, turkey)—mutagens and rodent carcinogens

Hydrazines (mushrooms)—mutagens and rodent carcinogens

Hydrogen peroxide (coffee, tomatoes)—mutagen and rodent carcinogen

Hydroquinone (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

d-limonene (black pepper, mangos)—rodent carcinogen

4-methylcatechol (coffee)—rodent carcinogen

Methyl eugenol (basil, cinnamon and nutmeg in apple and pumpkin

pies)—rodent carcinogen

Psoralens (celery, parsley)—mutagens; rodent and human carcinogens

Quercetin glycosides (apples, onions, tea, tomatoes)—mutagens and rodent

carcinogens

Safrole (nutmeg in apple and pumpkin pies, black pepper)—rodent carcinogen

[Guest guest]

all tea or just black teas?

Re: My new " diet "

Crystal wrote:

>

>

> Kinda like tea?

Exactly, except I would count the fluoride content of tea more

threatening to the thyroid.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

The fluoride content in green tea is no good for hypothyroid too? So what about

the

fluoride toothpaste? Why did the dentist give me a special fluoride gel type

thing to

put on every night? Which I don't do.

Roni

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

Crystal wrote:

>

>

> Kinda like tea?

Exactly, except I would count the fluoride content of tea more

threatening to the thyroid.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

the gel is to prevent cavities and to build up the enamel. my dentist who is

also a Chinese physician; gave it to me because of my lupus and my bile reflux

that is eroding my teeth. oh and add the premature menopause from the chemo-

they are all creating a situation where my enamel is thinning.

nancie

Re: My new " diet "

The fluoride content in green tea is no good for hypothyroid too? So what

about the

fluoride toothpaste? Why did the dentist give me a special fluoride gel type

thing to

put on every night? Which I don't do.

Roni

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...<mailto:gumboyaya@...>> wrote:

Crystal wrote:

>

>

> Kinda like tea?

Exactly, except I would count the fluoride content of tea more

threatening to the thyroid.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

If you are interested, I too was medically discharged with " undifferentiated

connective tissue disease meeting 4 of the 11 criteria for lupus " which I don't

have, as I have been re-tested. But, I havd done a great deal of research on

the topic. One really great website for treatment is " alternative " (yes, I know

it is not always popular), but it is helping a lot of people.

www.earthclinic.com search in their searchbox for " lupus "

Blessings,

Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

the gel is to prevent cavities and to build up the enamel. my dentist

who is also a Chinese physician; gave it to me because of my lupus and my bile

reflux that is eroding my teeth. oh and add the premature menopause from the

chemo- they are all creating a situation where my enamel is thinning.

nancie

Re: My new " diet "

The fluoride content in green tea is no good for hypothyroid too? So what about

the

fluoride toothpaste? Why did the dentist give me a special fluoride gel type

thing to

put on every night? Which I don't do.

Roni

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...<mailto:gumboyaya@...>> wrote:

Crystal wrote:

>

>

> Kinda like tea?

Exactly, except I would count the fluoride content of tea more

threatening to the thyroid.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

I thought it was the flouride in all tea. I figure white tea is probably

has less flouride since its " baby tea. " however, I'm sure Chuck will show

someway of telling me I'm wrong:)

cw

-- Re: My new " diet "

The fluoride content in green tea is no good for hypothyroid too? So what

about the

fluoride toothpaste? Why did the dentist give me a special fluoride gel type

thing to

put on every night? Which I don't do.

Roni

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

Crystal wrote:

>

>

> Kinda like tea?

Exactly, except I would count the fluoride content of tea more

threatening to the thyroid.

Chuck

---------------------------------

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now.

[Guest guest]

Nancie Barnett wrote:

>

>

> all tea or just black teas?

Fermented (black) tea is worse than green, but there is at least some

fluoride in both. If your thyroid is gone and completely replaced by

medication, it probably does not matter.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Roni,

You wrote:

>

> The fluoride content in green tea is no good for hypothyroid too? So

> what about the

> fluoride toothpaste? Why did the dentist give me a special fluoride gel

> type thing to

> put on every night? Which I don't do.

Again, if your thyroid is already gone, additional fluoride probably

does no harm, and it at least toughens your teeth against cavities.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Chuck,

Wasn't there a discussion at an early date about herbal tea not having

fluoride?

Venizia

- In hypothyroidism , Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

>

> Nancie Barnett wrote:

> >

> >

> > all tea or just black teas?

>

> Fermented (black) tea is worse than green, but there is at least some

> fluoride in both. If your thyroid is gone and completely replaced by

> medication, it probably does not matter.

>

> Chuck

>

[Guest guest]

venizia1948 wrote:

>

>

> Chuck,

>

> Wasn't there a discussion at an early date about herbal tea not having

> fluoride?

Right, we are only talking about Camellia Sinensis. Fermentation

concentrates the fluoride. Herbals generally do not have much fluoride,

although they can have other things.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

venizia1948 wrote:

>

>

> Chuck,

>

> Wasn't there a discussion at an early date about herbal tea not having

> fluoride?

Right, we are only talking about Camellia Sinensis. Fermentation

concentrates the fluoride. Herbals generally do not have much fluoride,

although they can have other things.

Chuck