Re: Fwd: FW: Update from Hopkins (OT)

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this: I just thought of something...what about all of the

prepackaged foods that come in plastics, i.e. popsicles (otter pops), mixed

veggies, etc. Couldn't that potentially cause the same thing??

:0)

Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote:

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Update from Hopkins

This information is being circulated at Walter Army Medical Center as well.

Please circulate to all you know!

CANCER update Hopkins

No plastic containers in microwave.

No water bottles in freezer.

No plastic wrap in microwave.

A dioxin chemical causes cancer, especially breast cancer.

Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of our bodies. Don't freeze your

plastic bottles with water in them as this releases dioxins from the plastic.

Recently, Fujimoto, Wellness Program Manager at Castle Hospital, was on a

TV program to explain this health hazard. He talked about dioxins and how bad

they are for us.

He said that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic

containers...

This especially applies to foods that contain fat.

He said that the combination of fat, high heat, and plastics releases dioxin

into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body...

Instead, he recommends using glass, such as Corning Ware, Pyrex or ceramic

containers for heating food... You get the same results, only without the dioxin

So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed

from the container and heated in something else.

Paper isn't bad but you don't know what is in the paper. It's just safer to use

tempered glass, Corning Ware, etc.

He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved away

from the foam containers to paper. The dioxin problem is one of the reasons...

Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when

placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high

heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip

into the food.

Cover food with a paper towel instead.

This is an article that should be sent

to anyone important in

your life!

francesca tabor-miolla

Telephone: 904-273-2987

www.sassyandtwisted.com

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[Guest guest]

I see what you mean. If you can't put plastic bottles in the freezer, what about

all this

other stuff that is meant for the freezer? I don't know the answer to that,

but it is a

thought. I guess we could transfer things into corning ware, pyrex or corelle.

Also,

what about regular freezer bags that are sold for that purpose, like glad,

etc?

We are all subject to the whims of the big corporations, and there is no

telling what is

really safe and what is not. AFAIK we are all being systematically poisoned by

air,

water, food and pharmaceuticals. Do I know a quick fix for this? No.

Roni

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote:

Thanks for this: I just thought of something...what about all of the

prepackaged foods that come in plastics, i.e. popsicles (otter pops), mixed

veggies, etc. Couldn't that potentially cause the same thing??

:0)

Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote:

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Update from Hopkins

This information is being circulated at Walter Army Medical Center as well.

Please circulate to all you know!

CANCER update Hopkins

No plastic containers in microwave.

No water bottles in freezer.

No plastic wrap in microwave.

A dioxin chemical causes cancer, especially breast cancer.

Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of our bodies. Don't freeze your

plastic bottles with water in them as this releases dioxins from the plastic.

Recently, Fujimoto, Wellness Program Manager at Castle Hospital, was on a

TV program to explain this health hazard. He talked about dioxins and how bad

they are for us.

He said that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic

containers...

This especially applies to foods that contain fat.

He said that the combination of fat, high heat, and plastics releases dioxin

into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body...

Instead, he recommends using glass, such as Corning Ware, Pyrex or ceramic

containers for heating food... You get the same results, only without the dioxin

So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed

from the container and heated in something else.

Paper isn't bad but you don't know what is in the paper. It's just safer to use

tempered glass, Corning Ware, etc.

He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved away

from the foam containers to paper. The dioxin problem is one of the reasons...

Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when

placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high

heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip

into the food.

Cover food with a paper towel instead.

This is an article that should be sent

to anyone important in

your life!

francesca tabor-miolla

Telephone: 904-273-2987

www.sassyandtwisted.com

---------------------------------

Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

[Guest guest]

,

This is mostly urban legend with a grain of truth. Foods that are

packaged to be heated in the microwave are safe, if you follow the

directions. However, other containers may not be safe unless it says so

on the side. Styrofoam is particularly bad. You should not heat instant

soup in a styrofoam cup. Heat the water somewhere else. Other

prepackaged foods should be separated from the plastic prior to heating.

Popsicles don't get heated, so they are safe.

Chuck

>

>

> Thanks for this: I just thought of something...what about all of the

> prepackaged foods that come in plastics, i.e. popsicles (otter pops),

> mixed veggies, etc. Couldn't that potentially cause the same thing??

>

[Guest guest]

You mean I've been doing popsicles wrong all this time??? I think there is

more to the plastic in the microwave than " they " are willing to admit...for

now.

cw

-- Re: Fwd: FW: Update from Hopkins (OT)

,

This is mostly urban legend with a grain of truth. Foods that are

packaged to be heated in the microwave are safe, if you follow the

directions. However, other containers may not be safe unless it says so

on the side. Styrofoam is particularly bad. You should not heat instant

soup in a styrofoam cup. Heat the water somewhere else. Other

prepackaged foods should be separated from the plastic prior to heating.

Popsicles don't get heated, so they are safe.

Chuck

>

>

> Thanks for this: I just thought of something...what about all of the

> prepackaged foods that come in plastics, i.e. popsicles (otter pops),

> mixed veggies, etc. Couldn't that potentially cause the same thing??

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Chuck,

What about the section of the document that talks about putting plastic

bottles in the freezer. Would the otter pops in the freezer pose that type of

risk too?

Thanks!! ;o)

-- Re: Fwd: FW: Update from Hopkins (OT)

,

This is mostly urban legend with a grain of truth. Foods that are

packaged to be heated in the microwave are safe, if you follow the

directions. However, other containers may not be safe unless it says so

on the side. Styrofoam is particularly bad. You should not heat instant

soup in a styrofoam cup. Heat the water somewhere else. Other

prepackaged foods should be separated from the plastic prior to heating.

Popsicles don't get heated, so they are safe.

Chuck

>

>

> Thanks for this: I just thought of something...what about all of the

> prepackaged foods that come in plastics, i.e. popsicles (otter pops),

> mixed veggies, etc. Couldn't that potentially cause the same thing??

>

[Guest guest]

Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> You mean I've been doing popsicles wrong all this time???

Perhaps, if you have been heating your popsicles before eating, er ...

drinking them.

> ... I think there is more to the plastic in the microwave than " they " are

willing to admit...for

> now.

I personally visited the lab in the 1980s where the first tests of TV

dinner containers were made with a mass spectrometer to see how they

would do in a microwave oven. They found that some of the cellophane

wrappers released nasty stuff. This resulted in major changes in the way

they packaged all microwavable food. The directions usually tell you to

remove the cellophane, right?

I am confident that the microwave designated packaging is safe, if you

follow the directions. The problem is that most people don't want to

read directions, let alone follow them. And, people will often put

leftovers in Tupperware type containers that were never intended for

cooking, and then end up heating those leftovers in the containers. Yuck!

Chuck

[Guest guest]

and Irwin wrote:

>

> What about the section of the document that talks about putting plastic

> bottles in the freezer. Would the otter pops in the freezer pose that

> type of risk too?

No. That is one of the parts that is myth. Chemicals are mobilized by

heat, not cold.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Sigh of relief!! ) More otter pops the merrier...of course, we don't buy

them (due to sugar content...) ;o) One less thing to stress about...

Thank you!!

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

and Irwin wrote:

>

> What about the section of the document that talks about putting plastic

> bottles in the freezer. Would the otter pops in the freezer pose that

> type of risk too?

No. That is one of the parts that is myth. Chemicals are mobilized by

heat, not cold.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Chuck,

When you are saying that tupperware type of plastic containers, you

are referring to things like Gladware?

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

>

> Crystal,

>

> You wrote:

> >

> > You mean I've been doing popsicles wrong all this time???

>

> Perhaps, if you have been heating your popsicles before eating, er ...

> drinking them.

>

> > ... I think there is more to the plastic in the microwave than

" they " are willing to admit...for

> > now.

>

> I personally visited the lab in the 1980s where the first tests of TV

> dinner containers were made with a mass spectrometer to see how they

> would do in a microwave oven. They found that some of the cellophane

> wrappers released nasty stuff. This resulted in major changes in the

way

> they packaged all microwavable food. The directions usually tell you to

> remove the cellophane, right?

>

> I am confident that the microwave designated packaging is safe, if you

> follow the directions. The problem is that most people don't want to

> read directions, let alone follow them. And, people will often put

> leftovers in Tupperware type containers that were never intended for

> cooking, and then end up heating those leftovers in the containers.

Yuck!

>

> Chuck

>

[Guest guest]

Venizia,

You wrote:

>

> When you are saying that tupperware type of plastic containers, you

> are referring to things like Gladware?

Yes. If it does not have an explicit " safe for microwave " on it, don't

use it in the microwave. Some of the monomers and plasticizers that stay

in the structure at normal temperatures will vaporize under a little

heat and diffuse into your food, especially if you get near the melting

point. Ceramic would be OK without the label, but not hard plastics.

Another issue is nonfood items that get dried in the microwave, such as

shoes. You should plan on cleaning if like to use the microwave for

other heating needs. We had a real problem with that last year. Our

" office " microwave is located right across the hall from a biochem lab.

We found that students were warming their e-coli and yeast cultures in

the same machine that later warmed leftovers. We moved that machine into

the lab and bought the office a new one.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Euwww!

Roni

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

Venizia,

You wrote:

>

> When you are saying that tupperware type of plastic containers, you

> are referring to things like Gladware?

Yes. If it does not have an explicit " safe for microwave " on it, don't

use it in the microwave. Some of the monomers and plasticizers that stay

in the structure at normal temperatures will vaporize under a little

heat and diffuse into your food, especially if you get near the melting

point. Ceramic would be OK without the label, but not hard plastics.

Another issue is nonfood items that get dried in the microwave, such as

shoes. You should plan on cleaning if like to use the microwave for

other heating needs. We had a real problem with that last year. Our

" office " microwave is located right across the hall from a biochem lab.

We found that students were warming their e-coli and yeast cultures in

the same machine that later warmed leftovers. We moved that machine into

the lab and bought the office a new one.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

-- In hypothyroidism , Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

>

We had a real problem with that last year. Our

> " office " microwave is located right across the hall from a biochem lab.

> We found that students were warming their e-coli and yeast cultures in

> the same machine that later warmed leftovers. We moved that machine

into

> the lab and bought the office a new one.

>

> Chuck

OMG Chuck. Any reprimands toward the students. That sounds really

dangerous. Bet a memo went out on that one!

Venizia

>

[Guest guest]

Roni,

You wrote:

>

> Euwww!

My reaction, EXACTLY! I always thought the yeast cultures kind of

smelled like baking brownies, but I didn't want them anywhere near my

re-heated coffee.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Venizia,

You wrote:

>

> OMG Chuck. Any reprimands toward the students. That sounds really

> dangerous. Bet a memo went out on that one!

Their faculty supervisor assured us that the yeast cultures were

completely harmless, and the others were " sealed. " I actually did write

a memo or two, but, what the heck, they are looking for a cure for

cancer. That same person had received an earlier memo about radioactive

P-32. A student had slopped a little of that over the lab bench she was

working on. Fortunately, that one cleans itself up after a few days.

We have stuff that makes a microwave oven look like a kitchen appliance.

Chuck