Re: Kidney stones related to Armour

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Hi Dani,

I have not had any kidney stones or liver tumor but I am going in and

having a liver panel done every 3 months because my numbers are on the

high side. I asked my doctor, a gastroenterologist, if the high dose

of Armour I was on at one time would have caused this and he said no

but I am going to ask the doctor that prescribes Armour for me. I do

not see him until May sometime. I will let you know what he has to say

also.

Venizia

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> Funny thing happened on the way to the doctor...I went in for an

adrenal looky lo and came out with multiple kidney stones, a kidney

cyst and a liver tumor! Have any of you heard of a coorelation

between Armour use and kidney stones?

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> Dani

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[Guest guest]

you may be undertreated on Armour, which is common, but you certainly are

iodine deficient.

http://www.helpmythyroid.com

Gracia

Funny thing happened on the way to the doctor...I went in for an adrenal looky

lo and came out with multiple kidney stones, a kidney cyst and a liver tumor!

Have any of you heard of a coorelation between Armour use and kidney stones?

Dani

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[Guest guest]

On this list quite a few people have reported that they feel the best

with a TSH reading below the minimum published accepted level. The

numbers of these reports have led some of us to suspect that the lower

range number is no longer valid, at least for a major fraction of those

suffering from hypothyroidism. However, I do not believe there are any

accredited studies to support such a hypothesis.

A doctor who deliberately treats to something outside of accepted ranges

is considered to be doing experimental medicating; and is horribly

exposed to law suits.

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> Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:27 pm (PDT)

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> I'll be going for another test in about two weeks. The last one was

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> Anti Thyroglobn..

> ....................<20 ..................Range 0-40

> Thyroxine, Free ................. 0.98.................Range 0.61-1.76

> Free T3................................ 3.5 .................Range 2.3-4.2

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> TPO Auto Ab ..........................<10............... Range 0-35

> TSH..(L)..................................... .009 ............. Range

> 0.35-5.50

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> I don't understand why the doctor is basing everything on the TSH, when

> the other things are all in the normal range.

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> Roni

[Guest guest]

Has ANYONE on this list gotten kidney stones from Armour? Beside the

one that already posted. I have not heard of this before. I am

curious to know how many have had this as a side effect. I have not.

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , le <danosova@...> wrote:

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> This link has been very helpful for me.

> http://www.parathyroid.com/parathyroid-symptoms.htm

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[Guest guest]

I've had a kidney stone and can relate to the pain; of course I've never

had a baby! [ggg] But I've heard that other women who have experienced

both say the kidney stone hurts more. I hope you [and I!] never have to

go through it again...

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> danosova <danosova>

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> Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:25 pm (PDT)

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> Hum...this topic took an odd turn from the correlation of Armour to

> kidney stones over to organic farming! Be careful when you look to

> slap that organic label on anything. The USDA doesn't even have a

> clear definition of organic so lets keep it real folks. So you think

> that hog your thyroid med is made from never saw an antibiotic, growth

> enhancer or what not. What about the feed he eats? That was probably

> chock full of fertilizer, pesticides and growth enhancers! Now who

> really is going to regulate every aspect of the products ingested by

> that hog? On the flip side, so you take thyroid meds that came from a

> hog who wasn't this supposed organic...what exactly do you all think

> will happen to you? Curious aggie here asking.

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> Back to kidney stones and Armour...turns out that a hyper parathyroid

> gland can take the calcium stearate contained in Armour and cause it

> to run through the body ending up as stones in your kidneys. Not a fun

> side effect I was hoping to have taking Armour. As anyone knows who

> has passed a stone, it is comperable pain to natural child birth. I

> have delivered four naturally and passed one small, jagged stone. Sign

> me up for another birth please instead of me knowing at some point I

> will be passing these stones I have developed while on Armour!

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> Oh, and to circle back to this odd organic issue yet again...calcium

> stearate is from beef so watch out for those organic cows eh!

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> Grinning,

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> Dani

[Guest guest]

Very interesting. So what are the symptoms of kidney stones?

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

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> Venizia,

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> You wrote:

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> > Has ANYONE on this list gotten kidney stones from Armour?...

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> Kidney stones are nature's way of telling you you are getting too much,

> whether Armour or T4. It's another reason doctors do not like to give

> you more than they think is absolutely necessary.

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> Chuck

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[Guest guest]

It feels like someone heated a sword white hot then stuck it into your

lower/mid back [right or left side] and angled it down toward your

bladder and then started twisting it. And just kept on and on twisting

it. Then after that it REALLY starts to hurt...

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> Posted by: " venizia1948 " nelsonck@...

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> Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:42 pm (PDT)

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> Very interesting. So what are the symptoms of kidney stones?

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> Venizia

[Guest guest]

It was bad enough that in my drugged state [which made me exceedingly

drunk but did nothing for the pain] that I seriously considered going in

after the source of the pain with my rusty pocket knife...

Morphine sulphate [10%?] is the only thing that I have found that will

knock out the pain. The last time or two I had a problem [many years

ago] I was very explicit in requesting very strongly what I needed. My

first kidney stone doctor was not a urologist, and prescribed something

else. " Enough to knock out an elephant " made me drunk but did not

lessen the pain at all.

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> Posted by: " Chuck B " gumboyaya@...

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> Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:08 pm (PDT)

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> That resembles the descriptions I have heard of the pain, only nowhere

> near as bad.

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> Chuck

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> > It feels like someone heated a sword white hot then stuck it into your

> > lower/mid back [right or left side] and angled it down toward your

> > bladder and then started twisting it. And just kept on and on twisting

> > it. Then after that it REALLY starts to hurt...

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