Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 What are your labs? CW So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my resting temp in the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? Anybody have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 post your labs with ranges please. soemtimes what docs call normal, isn't. do you have hypo symptoms? Gracia So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my resting temp in the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? Anybody have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 HI, Here are my serum labs: Free T4 14.1 Range 9-19 Free T3 3.9 Range 2.6-6 TSH 2.42 Range .3-5 I also have a nodule on my thyroid and it feels swollen on the left side. Thanks, > > What are your labs? > > CW > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > resting temp in > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > Thanks, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 what thyroid med are you on? because from the look of your labs, you need a higher dose. your T3 should be in the upper 2/3's of the range- that is closer to the 6. the T4 looks ok, but it could be higher. don't worry about the TSH- it is worthless. a good provider will never dose by the TSH- it is not even a thyroid hormone. it is released by the anterior pituitary gland. nancie From: remedyworks Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:03 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Normal thyroid labs but low body temp? HI, Here are my serum labs: Free T4 14.1 Range 9-19 Free T3 3.9 Range 2.6-6 TSH 2.42 Range .3-5 I also have a nodule on my thyroid and it feels swollen on the left side. Thanks, > > What are your labs? > > CW > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > resting temp in > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > Thanks, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 HI, I am not on anything but vitamins and kelp/fucus tincture. The dr. does not think anything is wrong even though I showed him my temperature chart. I went to NP that has me taking my temperature, taking magnesium, zing, D3 and B vits and I put myself on kelp/fucus. My mom and two sisters are on Synthroid. I went in because my hair was falling out and I have internal trembling. So what can I do more? Dr. won't do anything and maybe I can deal with it naturally?? What do you think? Thanks, > > > > What are your labs? > > > > CW > > > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > > resting temp in > > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 You're TSH is high although you shouldn't treat by tsh anyway. T4 should be midrange, but looks okay. T3 should be nearer to the 6. Looks like you need more meds. Are you taking Armour? cw " HI, Here are my serum labs: Free T4 14.1 Range 9-19 Free T3 3.9 Range 2.6-6 TSH 2.42 Range .3-5 I also have a nodule on my thyroid and it feels swollen on the left side. Thanks, > > What are your labs? > > CW > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > resting temp in > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > Thanks, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 , you need to ask for Armour and see if that helps with symptoms. Also check to see if you can get an antibodies test to see if you have hashi's. If so then tests mean nada and you should dose by symptoms. cw HI, I am not on anything but vitamins and kelp/fucus tincture. The dr. does not think anything is wrong even though I showed him my temperature chart. I went to NP that has me taking my temperature, taking magnesium, zing, D3 and B vits and I put myself on kelp/fucus. My mom and two sisters are on Synthroid. I went in because my hair was falling out and I have internal trembling. So what can I do more? Dr. won't do anything and maybe I can deal with it naturally?? What do you think? Thanks, > > > > What are your labs? > > > > CW > > > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > > resting temp in > > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 HI, Thank you all for responding. I appreciate it. I live in Australia and they do not use Armour or any glandulars (thyroid ground up and given as supplement) What if I have antibodies? What do I do with that? Thanks, anna > > > > > > What are your labs? > > > > > > CW > > > > > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > > > resting temp in > > > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > > > > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 - the best way to treat the hypo T is with thyroid hormones. the best med is armour or other similar products that have all the hormones T1-4 in them. synthroid is crap [iMHO] because it has only T4 and if you are like most people on this board, you may not be converting the T4 into T3 [ which drives the metabolism] if you can find a natural medicine provider an DO or ND or an MD with natural medicine training, they will be open to prescribing armour. do you live near santa monica, ca? because I have a great MD who uses armour herself. also, can you afford to buy online? I have an website where you can get armour without a scrip because it is international. if you write me off list I will give it to you. I have used this site before when I did not have a armour friendly MD. I never had a problem with customs. also, you need to get tested for antibodies to see if you have Hashis, which is the auto-immune version. nancie From: remedyworks Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:35 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Normal thyroid labs but low body temp? HI, I am not on anything but vitamins and kelp/fucus tincture. The dr. does not think anything is wrong even though I showed him my temperature chart. I went to NP that has me taking my temperature, taking magnesium, zing, D3 and B vits and I put myself on kelp/fucus. My mom and two sisters are on Synthroid. I went in because my hair was falling out and I have internal trembling. So what can I do more? Dr. won't do anything and maybe I can deal with it naturally?? What do you think? Thanks, > > > > What are your labs? > > > > CW > > > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > > resting temp in > > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 HI, Australian customs will stop all glandulars from entering the country. Grrrr So It looks like I am out of luck. I will be flying to Calif in June though. But I would not have a clue what dose to take. I would like to try it though. I am fully aware of the delicacy of fiddling with hormones--but I think I have needed Armour for yeeeears. What can one do if they have hashi? Is armour then contraindicated? Thanks, anna > > > > > > What are your labs? > > > > > > CW > > > > > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > > > resting temp in > > > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > > > > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 will australia stop a package that says supplements on it? that is what they write on the package. From: remedyworks Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 11:49 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Normal thyroid labs but low body temp? HI, Australian customs will stop all glandulars from entering the country. Grrrr So It looks like I am out of luck. I will be flying to Calif in June though. But I would not have a clue what dose to take. I would like to try it though. I am fully aware of the delicacy of fiddling with hormones--but I think I have needed Armour for yeeeears. What can one do if they have hashi? Is armour then contraindicated? Thanks, anna > > > > > > What are your labs? > > > > > > CW > > > > > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > > > resting temp in > > > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > > > > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Yes! They rip open EVERY package I get that has supplements in it. If they see it comes from a gland they will destroy it or charge me to mail it back to the usa. Poor me!! What to do! > > > > > > > > What are your labs? > > > > > > > > CW > > > > > > > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > > > > resting temp in > > > > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > > > > > > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 have you tried a natural medicine provider? From: remedyworks Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:02 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Normal thyroid labs but low body temp? Yes! They rip open EVERY package I get that has supplements in it. If they see it comes from a gland they will destroy it or charge me to mail it back to the usa. Poor me!! What to do! > > > > > > > > What are your labs? > > > > > > > > CW > > > > > > > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > > > > resting temp in > > > > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > > > > > > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 also check out: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com From: remedyworks Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:02 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Normal thyroid labs but low body temp? Yes! They rip open EVERY package I get that has supplements in it. If they see it comes from a gland they will destroy it or charge me to mail it back to the usa. Poor me!! What to do! > > > > > > > > What are your labs? > > > > > > > > CW > > > > > > > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > > > > resting temp in > > > > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > > > > > > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Yes, they lament that the Americans get to use Armour. Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > What are your labs? > > > > > > > > > > CW > > > > > > > > > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > > > > > resting temp in > > > > > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > > > > > > > > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 HI, Thank you for the article. The dr told me today that perhaps I needed to go to a shrink to deal with the internal trembling because it is probably from an emotional cause and not my thyroid! I FEEL I have been suffering with sluggish thyroid for at least 20 years but it never shows up on lab tests!! My sisters and mom all have hypothyroidism... Oh and by the way I am not a hypochondriac. I RARELY go to the dr. I would like to try Armour as I think it would help. It's not good to have internal trembling for months on end and a full feeling thyroid. Cheers, anna > > also check out: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 hi this is the kind of crappy treatment we get from many docs. why don't you suggest to doc that he see a shrink for his arrogant attitude towards women? look for another doc--there is a worldwide topdoc list on http://www.thyroid.about.com can you order meds from other countries without Rx? Email me for a list Gracia circe@... HI, Thank you for the article. The dr told me today that perhaps I needed to go to a shrink to deal with the internal trembling because it is probably from an emotional cause and not my thyroid! I FEEL I have been suffering with sluggish thyroid for at least 20 years but it never shows up on lab tests!! My sisters and mom all have hypothyroidism... Oh and by the way I am not a hypochondriac. I RARELY go to the dr. I would like to try Armour as I think it would help. It's not good to have internal trembling for months on end and a full feeling thyroid. Cheers, anna > > also check out: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Brownstein MD http://www.drbrownstein.com thinks hashis should be treated with iodine/iodide. which may also raise your TSH. enough to get treatment. your doc might give you meds if tests say you have hashis. Gracia HI, Thank you all for responding. I appreciate it. I live in Australia and they do not use Armour or any glandulars (thyroid ground up and given as supplement) What if I have antibodies? What do I do with that? Thanks, anna > > > > > > What are your labs? > > > > > > CW > > > > > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my > > > resting temp in > > > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > > > > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Depends on how you feel and how " normal " your labs are. My DH temp is always 97.8 and he's healthy and strong. Val From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of remedyworks So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my resting temp in the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? Anybody have any thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Hi , I haven't read all the responses to your question on this but you talked about trembling inside your body. I also had that for awhile. I thought it was related to a sulfite sensitivity because on the group sulfitesnomore there were a couple of people that had the same sypmtoms and were relating it to what they were ingesting i.e. foods, drink or even inhaling things with sulfites in them. However, I think for me it was because my antibody count was high. Since I have reduced my antibodies I do not have that feeling anymore.....knock on wood. Hope this helps. I would get the TPO and antithyroglobulin tests done though. Venizia > > So what I am supposed to think when my thyroid labs are normals but my resting temp in > the AM is consistently 97-97.6F degrees? > > Anybody have any thoughts on this? > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 , What time of morning is your 97 degree reading? That is actually fairly typical for getting up. It should be closer to 99 by 10:00 a.m. Are you dieting or fasting? Some of those supplements can cause " trembling, " if you get too much. Chuck > > > HI, > I am not on anything but vitamins and kelp/fucus tincture. The dr. does > not think anything > is wrong even though I showed him my temperature chart. I went to NP > that has me taking > my temperature, taking magnesium, zing, D3 and B vits and I put myself > on kelp/fucus. > My mom and two sisters are on Synthroid. > I went in because my hair was falling out and I have internal trembling. > So what can I do more? Dr. won't do anything and maybe I can deal with > it naturally?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Of course this board is not a representative sample of all hypothyroid people. Synthroid is I believe the third most prescribed medicine in the US, and probably something between 90% and 99% take that alone and have no problems. > > Re: Normal thyroid labs but low body temp? > <hypothyroidism/message/38038;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMHYzZWV\ sBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzgwMzgEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIwOTM3NTg2OQ--> > > > > Posted by: " nancie barnett " deifspirit@... > <mailto:deifspirit@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Normal%20thyroid%20labs%20but%20lo\ w%20body%20temp%3F> > aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1> > > > Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:17 pm (PDT) > > - > the best way to treat the hypo T is with thyroid hormones. the best > med is armour or other similar products that have all the hormones > T1-4 in them. synthroid is crap [iMHO] because it has only T4 and if > you are like most people on this board, you may not be converting the > T4 into T3 [ which drives the metabolism] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 , From where did you get your percentages? It may be the third most prescribed medicine in the United States, but that doesn't mean that 90 to 99% of the people prescribed that medication alone don't have problems with it. Every woman I know that's hypothyroid has had trouble with synthroid alone. I don't really know any men with the illness, so maybe they are the ones most happy with it. I believe that men and women (for the most part) react differently to different things, and I don't feel that all the doctors have reconciled with this, and that too many of them try to treat women like men, and become annoyed when they don't react the same. Roni <res075oh@...> wrote: Of course this board is not a representative sample of all hypothyroid people. Synthroid is I believe the third most prescribed medicine in the US, and probably something between 90% and 99% take that alone and have no problems. > > Re: Normal thyroid labs but low body temp? > > > > > Posted by: " nancie barnett " deifspirit@... > > aspenfairy1 > > > Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:17 pm (PDT) > > - > the best way to treat the hypo T is with thyroid hormones. the best > med is armour or other similar products that have all the hormones > T1-4 in them. synthroid is crap [iMHO] because it has only T4 and if > you are like most people on this board, you may not be converting the > T4 into T3 [ which drives the metabolism] ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 OR, men don't complain and don't ask questions or question. Where as, we women aren't going to take it anymore!!!! Just kidding....sort of. Venizia -- In hypothyroidism , Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > > , > From where did you get your percentages? It may be the third most prescribed medicine in > the United States, but that doesn't mean that 90 to 99% of the people prescribed that medication alone don't have problems with it. Every woman I know that's hypothyroid has had trouble with synthroid alone. I don't really know any men with the illness, so maybe they are the ones most happy with it. I believe that men and women (for the most part) react differently to different things, and I don't feel that all the doctors have reconciled with this, and that too many of them try to treat women like men, and become annoyed when they don't react the same. > > Roni > > <res075oh@...> wrote: > Of course this board is not a representative sample of all hypothyroid > people. Synthroid is I believe the third most prescribed medicine in > the US, and probably something between 90% and 99% take that alone and > have no problems. > > > > > > > Re: Normal thyroid labs but low body temp? > > > > > > > > > > Posted by: " nancie barnett " deifspirit@... > > > > aspenfairy1 > > > > > > Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:17 pm (PDT) > > > > - > > the best way to treat the hypo T is with thyroid hormones. the best > > med is armour or other similar products that have all the hormones > > T1-4 in them. synthroid is crap [iMHO] because it has only T4 and if > > you are like most people on this board, you may not be converting the > > T4 into T3 [ which drives the metabolism] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 You're right, Venezia, lots of men tend not to question doctors or complain. That's why they have been dying first for so long. IMO Women are catching up. I see women more and more acting like men, and I don't think it does them good. There is more stress and more illness. Roni venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote: OR, men don't complain and don't ask questions or question. Where as, we women aren't going to take it anymore!!!! Just kidding....sort of. Venizia -- In hypothyroidism , Roni Molin wrote: > > , > From where did you get your percentages? It may be the third most prescribed medicine in > the United States, but that doesn't mean that 90 to 99% of the people prescribed that medication alone don't have problems with it. Every woman I know that's hypothyroid has had trouble with synthroid alone. I don't really know any men with the illness, so maybe they are the ones most happy with it. I believe that men and women (for the most part) react differently to different things, and I don't feel that all the doctors have reconciled with this, and that too many of them try to treat women like men, and become annoyed when they don't react the same. > > Roni > > wrote: > Of course this board is not a representative sample of all hypothyroid > people. Synthroid is I believe the third most prescribed medicine in > the US, and probably something between 90% and 99% take that alone and > have no problems. > > > > > > > Re: Normal thyroid labs but low body temp? > > > > > > > > > > Posted by: " nancie barnett " deifspirit@... > > > > aspenfairy1 > > > > > > Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:17 pm (PDT) > > > > - > > the best way to treat the hypo T is with thyroid hormones. the best > > med is armour or other similar products that have all the hormones > > T1-4 in them. synthroid is crap [iMHO] because it has only T4 and if > > you are like most people on this board, you may not be converting the > > T4 into T3 [ which drives the metabolism] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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