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Hi Barb ~

Just an FYI: I take 14 Isocort pellets per day: 4-4-2-2-2, which is the

equivalent of 35mgs. Many state Isocort is not as strong as Cortef, in that

it doesn't contain the actual 2.5mg of cortisol per tablet as does Cortef.

For me, Cortef was not an option as I react very poorly to synthetics. I

found huge relief at this dosage of Isocort. I was able to better

assimilate Armour, and was able to raise my dose without any negative

reactions.

~

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From: hypothyroidism

Hi Gracia...I'm taking 6 per day.

In a message dated 6/9/2008 3:04:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

circe@... writes:

how much Isocort are you taking? 8 pellets?

[Guest guest]

Is Isocort over the counter? I am having my cortisol levels checked

on the 19th of this month but I am trying to get it done sooner. I

have gain over 8# in a month and my face very round and puffy. I hope

I can get my doctor to take my symptoms seriously or i am at the point

of self-treating. The depression is starting to set in and I know it

is because of the weight gain and the fact that my doctor keeps

putting off tests that asked him for over 2 months ago. And I just

keep getting worse. Sorry to vent.

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , " liebs8181 " <liebs8181@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Barb ~

>

>

> Just an FYI: I take 14 Isocort pellets per day: 4-4-2-2-2, which

is the

> equivalent of 35mgs. Many state Isocort is not as strong as Cortef,

in that

> it doesn't contain the actual 2.5mg of cortisol per tablet as does

Cortef.

> For me, Cortef was not an option as I react very poorly to

synthetics. I

> found huge relief at this dosage of Isocort. I was able to better

> assimilate Armour, and was able to raise my dose without any negative

> reactions.

>

> ~

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: hypothyroidism

>

> Hi Gracia...I'm taking 6 per day.

>

> In a message dated 6/9/2008 3:04:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> circe@... writes:

>

> how much Isocort are you taking? 8 pellets?

>

[Guest guest]

Yes...you can buy Isocort on line.

BarbF

In a message dated 6/10/2008 8:15:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

nelsonck@... writes:

Is Isocort over the counter?

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Hi Venezia ~

Yes, Isocort is over the counter, but it isn't easy to find, except via the

internet. I contacted 8 different holistic practitioners and every

health-food store within a 1-hour area and only one carried it. I found it

a www.naturamart.com. There is another online source someone posted on the

adrenals list that does offer it for less, but I don't have the url.

I began to self-treat and I am very glad I did. I gained 5 pounds my first

month on Armour (in January), along with a myriad of inflammation issues.

In May, I started Isocort following the ramp-up schedule on STTM, and by Day

9 my inflammation began to recede. After being on 35mg for about a week,

all of my scary airhead spaciness dissipated and the inflammation in my

hands/wrists was gone. It just came back ~ ever so slightly ~ this weekend

when I was under some extreme stress. It is slowly going away as I begin to

calm down.

~

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Is Isocort over the counter?

[Guest guest]

could be sex hormones too.

Gracia

Is Isocort over the counter? I am having my cortisol levels checked

on the 19th of this month but I am trying to get it done sooner. I

have gain over 8# in a month and my face very round and puffy. I hope

I can get my doctor to take my symptoms seriously or i am at the point

of self-treating. The depression is starting to set in and I know it

is because of the weight gain and the fact that my doctor keeps

putting off tests that asked him for over 2 months ago. And I just

keep getting worse. Sorry to vent.

Venizia

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[Guest guest]

I am glad Isocort is doing something for you.

Cortef is a bioidentical steroid, not to be confused with other pharmaceutical

steroids. In fact it is chemically the same as isocort.

http://www.drlam.com

Gracia

Hi Barb ~

Just an FYI: I take 14 Isocort pellets per day: 4-4-2-2-2, which is the

equivalent of 35mgs. Many state Isocort is not as strong as Cortef, in that

it doesn't contain the actual 2.5mg of cortisol per tablet as does Cortef.

For me, Cortef was not an option as I react very poorly to synthetics. I

found huge relief at this dosage of Isocort. I was able to better

assimilate Armour, and was able to raise my dose without any negative

reactions.

~

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From: hypothyroidism

Hi Gracia...I'm taking 6 per day.

In a message dated 6/9/2008 3:04:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

circe@... writes:

how much Isocort are you taking? 8 pellets?

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enough? 50--100mg Iodoral or Lugols?

Gracia

Thanks, Gracia. I already do iodine..have done the loading test etc. and am

a big believer. But I also think there are other things one can do to

prevent recurrence. Arimidex is one of them. But the good news is I'm winding

it

down now...5 years is almost up.

BarbF

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circe@... writes:

you have just got to get iodine for breast cancer prevention

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Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> I am glad Isocort is doing something for you.

> Cortef is a bioidentical steroid, not to be confused with other

> pharmaceutical steroids. In fact it is chemically the same as isocort.

Not true. Cortef is synthetic hydrocortisone sodium succinate mixed with

calcium stearate, corn starch, lactose, mineral oil, sorbic acid, and

sucrose. The hydrocortisone component is bioidentical, although

synthetic, just like SYNTHROID!

Isocort is extracted from freeze-dried adrenal cortex (soluble

fractionation) taken from New Zealand Sheep. This includes several

glucocorticoids besides hydrocortisone, plus sheep proteins. It is mixed

with echinacea extract, prunus and lomatium dissectum root isolate (kreb

concentrate-2%) in a pellet base of lactose and lactase.

The manufacturers of Isocort claim that it contains the " equivalent " of

2.5 mg of hydrocortisone, but people using it report that the same mg

dose of Cortef is much more potent. This is probably because the other

glucocorticoids that they count as equivalent to Cortef, are really less

active.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I will check that out. Did you notice any help with the weight issue.

I have now, as of today, gained 8 pounds in the last month.

Venizia

>

> Hi Venezia ~

>

> Yes, Isocort is over the counter, but it isn't easy to find, except

via the

> internet. I contacted 8 different holistic practitioners and every

> health-food store within a 1-hour area and only one carried it. I

found it

> a www.naturamart.com. There is another online source someone posted

on the

> adrenals list that does offer it for less, but I don't have the url.

>

> I began to self-treat and I am very glad I did. I gained 5 pounds

my first

> month on Armour (in January), along with a myriad of inflammation

issues.

> In May, I started Isocort following the ramp-up schedule on STTM,

and by Day

> 9 my inflammation began to recede. After being on 35mg for about a

week,

> all of my scary airhead spaciness dissipated and the inflammation in my

> hands/wrists was gone. It just came back ~ ever so slightly ~ this

weekend

> when I was under some extreme stress. It is slowly going away as I

begin to

> calm down.

>

> ~

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

> Is Isocort over the counter?

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I am going to ask for a whole slew of tests this time and I am

not going to let him put me off anymore. What, in what I am

experiencing do you consider to be a sex hormone problem or maybe it's

all of it?

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , " Gracia " <circe@...> wrote:

>

>

> could be sex hormones too.

> Gracia

>

> Is Isocort over the counter? I am having my cortisol levels checked

> on the 19th of this month but I am trying to get it done sooner. I

> have gain over 8# in a month and my face very round and puffy. I hope

> I can get my doctor to take my symptoms seriously or i am at the point

> of self-treating. The depression is starting to set in and I know it

> is because of the weight gain and the fact that my doctor keeps

> putting off tests that asked him for over 2 months ago. And I just

> keep getting worse. Sorry to vent.

>

> Venizia

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[Guest guest]

Well, this has me worried because I am lactose intolerant and I cannot

use corn starch because of a sulfite sensitivity. So that only leaves

me with Isocort to use? This is becoming very frustrating and scary.

So what it Isocort doesn't do the trick for me? Anymore options?

Venizia

>

>

>

> Not true. Cortef is synthetic hydrocortisone sodium succinate mixed

with

> calcium stearate, corn starch, lactose, mineral oil, sorbic acid, and

> sucrose. The hydrocortisone component is bioidentical, although

> synthetic, just like SYNTHROID!

>

> Isocort is extracted from freeze-dried adrenal cortex (soluble

> fractionation) taken from New Zealand Sheep. This includes several

> glucocorticoids besides hydrocortisone, plus sheep proteins. It is

mixed

> with echinacea extract, prunus and lomatium dissectum root isolate

(kreb

> concentrate-2%) in a pellet base of lactose and lactase.

>

> The manufacturers of Isocort claim that it contains the " equivalent " of

> 2.5 mg of hydrocortisone, but people using it report that the same mg

> dose of Cortef is much more potent. This is probably because the other

> glucocorticoids that they count as equivalent to Cortef, are really

less

> active.

>

> Chuck

>

[Guest guest]

Probably not, because every time I increase my iodine, my hypo symptoms get

worse. I only do 12.5 mg. Iodoral. When I increase it, I gain weight and

all hypo symptoms return. How do I get through that? My saturation as 48% in

the loading test -- so obvious deficiency is still there. Any thoughts

would be appreciated.

BarbF

In a message dated 6/10/2008 12:39:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

circe@... writes:

enough? 50--100mg Iodoral or Lugols?

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cortef and enough Armour will actually resolve some of your sensitivities.

Gracia

Well, this has me worried because I am lactose intolerant and I cannot

use corn starch because of a sulfite sensitivity. So that only leaves

me with Isocort to use? This is becoming very frustrating and scary.

So what it Isocort doesn't do the trick for me? Anymore options?

Venizia

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Hi Venezia ~

I noticed a modest weight loss with Isocort, maybe 2-3 pounds. I'm still

waiting for the optimal dose of Armour that will help me shed the other

excess.

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From: hypothyroidism

I will check that out. Did you notice any help with the weight issue. I

have now, as of today, gained 8 pounds in the last month.

[Guest guest]

I just found that sex hormones help us who are adrenally challenged. Sex

hormones have been the hardest for me to figure out but have improved my quality

of life 100%. Allopaths don't seem to have a clue about hormones--I would trust

anti-aging docs and naturopaths. I go to an MD woman who works with a

knowledgeable compounding pharmacist.

I also think you should be on enough Armour, 180mg minimum.

ppl seem to like saliva tests for hormones. I like the tests from

http://www.antibodyassay.com

Gracia

Yes, I am going to ask for a whole slew of tests this time and I am

not going to let him put me off anymore. What, in what I am

experiencing do you consider to be a sex hormone problem or maybe it's

all of it?

Venizia

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