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hi AJ-

I am on armour; my starting dose on 9/24/07 was 1.75 grains because I was on 150

mg of synthroid [ or .150 mcg} I am now on 2.75 grains of armour. I have found I

have to raise very slowly as I near 3 grains. I am not any cortisol because I

refuse to after being on 10 years of high dose gluccocortoid steroids aka

decadron- which destroyed my body and I am deathly allergic to iodine.

nancie

Question for those on Armour or those who have been

on Armour

If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning dose, how

much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you are? Gracia,

you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

Thanks!

Happy New Year!

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I'm currently on 2 grains of Thyrolar (made by same company) but began to get

atril fibrillation.

I have divided the dose 1 in morning and 1 in afternoon with food. Good so

far. I'd still

like to increase it but I'm taking it real slow.

Roni

hi AJ-

I am on armour; my starting dose on 9/24/07 was 1.75 grains because I was on 150

mg of synthroid [ or .150 mcg} I am now on 2.75 grains of armour. I have found I

have to raise very slowly as I near 3 grains. I am not any cortisol because I

refuse to after being on 10 years of high dose gluccocortoid steroids aka

decadron- which destroyed my body and I am deathly allergic to iodine.

nancie

Question for those on Armour or those who have been on

Armour

If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning dose, how

much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you are? Gracia,

you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

Thanks!

Happy New Year!

AJ

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Hi AJ,

I initially started with 1 grain and went up to 2 grains in one week. Then I

stayed on that for about 2 weeks, and then started alternating between 2 and 3

grains every other day for about 4 weeks, and then went to 3 grains for about 1

month. Finally went to 3 1/2 grains and was on that for about 1 month...it was

too much too fast. Lost hair, felt good, but started having skipped heart

beats.

Finally, I had to cut back, and now am adressing adrenals.

Now, on 1 grain, and slowly working back up.

Blessings,

AthleticItaliano@... wrote:

If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning dose,

how

much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you are? Gracia,

you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

Thanks!

Happy New Year!

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I first started out taking 3 grains. Started heart palps so went down to

one. I take 3 grains now (compounded). It took me like 2 weeks to get

there.

cw

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been on Armour

If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning dose, how

much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you are? Gracia

you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

Thanks!

Happy New Year!

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OK

LOL

I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave to go home

and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of whacky

without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I am still suffering

from.

Gracia

If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning dose, how

much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you are? Gracia,

you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

Thanks!

Happy New Year!

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Changing your dose of Armour or Thyrolar takes a bit of time. Probably in most

cases

4 weeks to the next dose. It's really important to make sure that the T3 in

the med is

not going to cause a problem with your heart.

Roni

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote:

Hi AJ,

I initially started with 1 grain and went up to 2 grains in one week. Then I

stayed on that for about 2 weeks, and then started alternating between 2 and 3

grains every other day for about 4 weeks, and then went to 3 grains for about 1

month. Finally went to 3 1/2 grains and was on that for about 1 month...it was

too much too fast. Lost hair, felt good, but started having skipped heart beats.

Finally, I had to cut back, and now am adressing adrenals.

Now, on 1 grain, and slowly working back up.

Blessings,

AthleticItaliano@... wrote:

If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning dose, how

much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you are? Gracia,

you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

Thanks!

Happy New Year!

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I feel your pain! I haven't had Armour yet this year:) I just found a

pharmacy who will fill it like the doc wrote it. I tried to get a different

rx but he is out until feb.

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been on Armour

OK

LOL

I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave to go

home and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of

whacky without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I am still

suffering from.

Gracia

If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning dose, how

much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you are? Gracia

you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

Thanks!

Happy New Year!

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Crystal,

Why are you having trouble finding a pharmacy to fill it as your

doctor prescribed? Is it because of the shortage of the 3grain?

Venizia

>

> I feel your pain! I haven't had Armour yet this year:) I just found a

> pharmacy who will fill it like the doc wrote it. I tried to get a

different

> rx but he is out until feb.

>

> -- Re: Question for those on Armour or those

who have

> been on Armour

>

>

> OK

> LOL

> I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave to go

> home and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of

> whacky without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I

am still

> suffering from.

> Gracia

>

> If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning

dose, how

> much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you

are? Gracia

>

> you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Happy New Year!

>

> AJ

>

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yikes.

I did have an Rx for 4 grain tabs, but now they are unavailable, so doc wrote

an Rx for 2X 2 grains. 3 and 4 grain tabs were disintegrating I guess.

Gracia

I feel your pain! I haven't had Armour yet this year:) I just found a

pharmacy who will fill it like the doc wrote it. I tried to get a different

rx but he is out until feb.

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Guys, what's wrong with just having one grain tabs for your Rx?

I am on 11 grains and " I " get mine in one grain tabs. REALLY!

If they are not a retarded pharmacy they can easily make your Rx's

into the lower grain tabs if the high gran tabs are unavailable.

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

>

>

> yikes.

> I did have an Rx for 4 grain tabs, but now they are unavailable,

so doc wrote an Rx for 2X 2 grains. 3 and 4 grain tabs were

disintegrating I guess.

> Gracia

>

> I feel your pain! I haven't had Armour yet this year:) I just

found a

> pharmacy who will fill it like the doc wrote it. I tried to get a

different

> rx but he is out until feb.

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Well my doc rx's me Armour thyroid LA (long acting). So, I have had mail

order through my insurance for a long time. It is much cheaper and I get 3

months worth at a time. Well when he started giving me 180 mg all in one I

still sent it in and got it back and it just looked like a big Armour pill.

Well, the last rx I sent in never got filled, because the pharmacy ran

out??? So I had been thinking it was compounded, but apparently, as I found

out today, if it were compounded it would have been in a capsule rather than

a tablet. So I guess it IS because of a 3 grain shortage even though nobody

was ever able to tell me that. I'm not sure if my mail in substituted the 3

grain for the LA or what. I am going to start this new compounded capsule

tomorrow and see if I feel any different. The bad part is, the compounding

pharmacy doesn't file insurance for you so when I went in to pick up 90

pills, it was gonna be 70.00. So I opted for 30 for 29 (you do the math).

I go back to the doc in feb so I will be asking for 60 mg tabs. I wanna try

this splitting the dose thing anyway. Okay, I'm done.

cw

-- Re: Question for those on Armour or those

who have

> been on Armour

>

>

> OK

> LOL

> I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave to go

> home and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of

> whacky without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I

am still

> suffering from.

> Gracia

>

> If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning

dose, how

> much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you

are? Gracia

>

> you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Happy New Year!

>

> AJ

>

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I take Thyrolar, which is also made by Forest Labs that makes Armour. This

situation is

not new to this company. Every once in a while you suddenly cannot get their

product.

I'm sick of it.

Roni

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

Well my doc rx's me Armour thyroid LA (long acting). So, I have had

mail

order through my insurance for a long time. It is much cheaper and I get 3

months worth at a time. Well when he started giving me 180 mg all in one I

still sent it in and got it back and it just looked like a big Armour pill.

Well, the last rx I sent in never got filled, because the pharmacy ran

out??? So I had been thinking it was compounded, but apparently, as I found

out today, if it were compounded it would have been in a capsule rather than

a tablet. So I guess it IS because of a 3 grain shortage even though nobody

was ever able to tell me that. I'm not sure if my mail in substituted the 3

grain for the LA or what. I am going to start this new compounded capsule

tomorrow and see if I feel any different. The bad part is, the compounding

pharmacy doesn't file insurance for you so when I went in to pick up 90

pills, it was gonna be 70.00. So I opted for 30 for 29 (you do the math).

I go back to the doc in feb so I will be asking for 60 mg tabs. I wanna try

this splitting the dose thing anyway. Okay, I'm done.

cw

-- Re: Question for those on Armour or those

who have

> been on Armour

>

>

> OK

> LOL

> I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave to go

> home and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of

> whacky without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I

am still

> suffering from.

> Gracia

>

> If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning

dose, how

> much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you

are? Gracia

>

> you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Happy New Year!

>

> AJ

>

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Sorry to hear bout this Crystal. Hopefully it will resolve itself soon.

Sending good thoughts and prayers your way.

Blessings,

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

Well my doc rx's me Armour thyroid LA (long acting). So, I have had

mail

order through my insurance for a long time. It is much cheaper and I get 3

months worth at a time. Well when he started giving me 180 mg all in one I

still sent it in and got it back and it just looked like a big Armour pill.

Well, the last rx I sent in never got filled, because the pharmacy ran

out??? So I had been thinking it was compounded, but apparently, as I found

out today, if it were compounded it would have been in a capsule rather than

a tablet. So I guess it IS because of a 3 grain shortage even though nobody

was ever able to tell me that. I'm not sure if my mail in substituted the 3

grain for the LA or what. I am going to start this new compounded capsule

tomorrow and see if I feel any different. The bad part is, the compounding

pharmacy doesn't file insurance for you so when I went in to pick up 90

pills, it was gonna be 70.00. So I opted for 30 for 29 (you do the math).

I go back to the doc in feb so I will be asking for 60 mg tabs. I wanna try

this splitting the dose thing anyway. Okay, I'm done.

cw

-- Re: Question for those on Armour or those

who have

> been on Armour

>

>

> OK

> LOL

> I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave to go

> home and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of

> whacky without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I

am still

> suffering from.

> Gracia

>

> If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning

dose, how

> much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you

are? Gracia

>

> you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Happy New Year!

>

> AJ

>

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There is nothing wrong with it. WHat happened with me is that my endo

wanted me to try and split my dose and I told him I never remember that 2nd

pill (at that time I was on 2 grains in morn and 1 in eve). So he wanted me

to try the LA, so I did, but apparently that is different than compounding

cw

-- Re: Question for those on Armour or those who have

been on Armour

Guys, what's wrong with just having one grain tabs for your Rx?

I am on 11 grains and " I " get mine in one grain tabs. REALLY!

If they are not a retarded pharmacy they can easily make your Rx's

into the lower grain tabs if the high gran tabs are unavailable.

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

>

>

> yikes.

> I did have an Rx for 4 grain tabs, but now they are unavailable,

so doc wrote an Rx for 2X 2 grains. 3 and 4 grain tabs were

disintegrating I guess.

> Gracia

>

> I feel your pain! I haven't had Armour yet this year:) I just

found a

> pharmacy who will fill it like the doc wrote it. I tried to get a

different

> rx but he is out until feb.

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Ahh thanks . We gotta stick together in more ways than one!

Crystal

-- Re: Question for those on Armour or those

who have

> been on Armour

>

>

> OK

> LOL

> I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave to go

> home and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of

> whacky without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I

am still

> suffering from.

> Gracia

>

> If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning

dose, how

> much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you

are? Gracia

>

> you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Happy New Year!

>

> AJ

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As far as I know there is no Armour thyroid that is long acting, except for the

T4 in the

formula, and it's all like that, unless your doctor has given you T4 only.

Roni

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

There is nothing wrong with it. WHat happened with me is that my endo

wanted me to try and split my dose and I told him I never remember that 2nd

pill (at that time I was on 2 grains in morn and 1 in eve). So he wanted me

to try the LA, so I did, but apparently that is different than compounding

cw

-- Re: Question for those on Armour or those who have

been on Armour

Guys, what's wrong with just having one grain tabs for your Rx?

I am on 11 grains and " I " get mine in one grain tabs. REALLY!

If they are not a retarded pharmacy they can easily make your Rx's

into the lower grain tabs if the high gran tabs are unavailable.

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

>

>

> yikes.

> I did have an Rx for 4 grain tabs, but now they are unavailable,

so doc wrote an Rx for 2X 2 grains. 3 and 4 grain tabs were

disintegrating I guess.

> Gracia

>

> I feel your pain! I haven't had Armour yet this year:) I just

found a

> pharmacy who will fill it like the doc wrote it. I tried to get a

different

> rx but he is out until feb.

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Crystal,

I belong to the natural thyroid group and they were saying that there

was a problem with the 3 and 4 grain tablets. Something about them

disintegrating. It shouldn't be so difficult to get the meds we need.

Very frustrating. I hope you do not run into this again.

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , and Irwin

<familyirwin@...> wrote:

>

> Yes, I agree, my sister!!

> :o)

> Blessings,

>

>

> Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

>

> Ahh thanks . We gotta stick together in more ways than one!

> Crystal

>

> -- Re: Question for those on Armour or those

> who have

> > been on Armour

> >

> >

> > OK

> > LOL

> > I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave

to go

> > home and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of

> > whacky without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I

> am still

> > suffering from.

> > Gracia

> >

> > If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning

> dose, how

> > much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you

> are? Gracia

> >

> > you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Happy New Year!

> >

> > AJ

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Crystal,

Compounding pharmacists can make tablets, especially if they are making

a timed release form. Capsules are just easier. Hand made is definitely

more expensive, though. That is why compounding pharmacists usually make

2-3 times what the Walgreens type does.

Chuck

>

>

> Well my doc rx's me Armour thyroid LA (long acting). So, I have had mail

> order through my insurance for a long time. It is much cheaper and I get 3

> months worth at a time. Well when he started giving me 180 mg all in one I

> still sent it in and got it back and it just looked like a big Armour pill.

> Well, the last rx I sent in never got filled, because the pharmacy ran

> out??? So I had been thinking it was compounded, but apparently, as I found

> out today, if it were compounded it would have been in a capsule rather than

> a tablet. So I guess it IS because of a 3 grain shortage even though nobody

> was ever able to tell me that. I'm not sure if my mail in substituted the 3

> grain for the LA or what. I am going to start this new compounded capsule

> tomorrow and see if I feel any different. The bad part is, the compounding

> pharmacy doesn't file insurance for you so when I went in to pick up 90

> pills, it was gonna be 70.00. So I opted for 30 for 29 (you do the math).

> I go back to the doc in feb so I will be asking for 60 mg tabs. I wanna try

> this splitting the dose thing anyway. Okay, I'm done.

> cw

>

> -- Re: Question for those on Armour or those

> who have

> > been on Armour

> >

> >

> > OK

> > LOL

> > I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave to go

> > home and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of

> > whacky without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I

> am still

> > suffering from.

> > Gracia

> >

> > If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning

> dose, how

> > much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you

> are? Gracia

> >

> > you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Happy New Year!

> >

> > AJ

> >

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Wow thanks! I hope I don't run into it either!

cw

-- Re: Question for those on Armour or those

> who have

> > been on Armour

> >

> >

> > OK

> > LOL

> > I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave

to go

> > home and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of

> > whacky without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I

> am still

> > suffering from.

> > Gracia

> >

> > If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning

> dose, how

> > much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you

> are? Gracia

> >

> > you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Happy New Year!

> >

> > AJ

> >

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I see, but will they still put the Armour A on it?

cw

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> who have

> > been on Armour

> >

> >

> > OK

> > LOL

> > I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave to go

> > home and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of

> > whacky without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I

> am still

> > suffering from.

> > Gracia

> >

> > If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning

> dose, how

> > much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you

> are? Gracia

> >

> > you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Happy New Year!

> >

> > AJ

> >

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> >

> >

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Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> I see, but will they still put the Armour A on it?

>

In response to what I wrote:

> Compounding pharmacists can make tablets,...

Perhaps you can find an A on it, if the pill press is made by the Acme

company. :)

A compounded tab should not resemble the mass produced ones, so you can

compare to see which you have been getting.

Chuck

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I don't know if they can do that or not, in view of the fact that the A is a

trademark from the

manufacturer of Armour. Maybe you could ask your compounder.

Roni

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

I see, but will they still put the Armour A on it?

cw

-- Re: Question for those on Armour or those

> who have

> > been on Armour

> >

> >

> > OK

> > LOL

> > I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave to go

> > home and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of

> > whacky without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I

> am still

> > suffering from.

> > Gracia

> >

> > If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning

> dose, how

> > much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you

> are? Gracia

> >

> > you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Happy New Year!

> >

> > AJ

> >

> > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes

> > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004

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My 180 mg tab had the A on it, so I guess mine was one of those who came

from the manufacturer named Warner Brothers.

cw

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have been on Armour

Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> I see, but will they still put the Armour A on it?

>

In response to what I wrote:

> Compounding pharmacists can make tablets,...

Perhaps you can find an A on it, if the pill press is made by the Acme

company. :)

A compounded tab should not resemble the mass produced ones, so you can

compare to see which you have been getting.

Chuck

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I'm pretty sure mine came from the manufacturer not the pharm.

cw

-- Re: Question for those on Armour or those

> who have

> > been on Armour

> >

> >

> > OK

> > LOL

> > I just worked 24 hrs straight b/c of a snowstorm. I couldn't leave to go

> > home and other workers couldn't get to work. I started feeling kind of

> > whacky without my Armour etc. not to mention lack of sleep which I

> am still

> > suffering from.

> > Gracia

> >

> > If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning

> dose, how

> > much you currently take and how long it took to get to where you

> are? Gracia

> >

> > you don't need to answer, I already know your info.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Happy New Year!

> >

> > AJ

> >

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Hi AJ,

> If you are on Armour, could you tell me how much your beginning

dose,

3 grains AFAIR

how

> much you currently take

8 grains

>and how long it took to get to where you are?

I'd say it took me about a month to settle on this dose.

> Happy New Year!

>

> AJ

You too!

Henry

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