Iodine...Now not sure if I should try it.

[Guest guest]

I was planning on trying Iodine. I have read a few people's post's of their

bad experiences with it.

Anyone else have a bad experience? Anyone OTHER THAT GRACIA have a good

experience?

Not sure what to do.

AJ

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AJ,

please join the iodine group for more information on iodine/iodide.

Pretty much anything said in this group is going to be ridiculed to

some degree, so it's best to go somewhere that has the info out there

in an unbiased way: http://health.grops./group/iodine

Also the info site: www.iodine4health.com

I take Iodoral and also give my dogs Lugol's Solution (I actually

have a 13 year old Basenji who looks and acts like a puppy!).

In general, the bad things I had were entirely from detoxing bromide

out of my body, but after taking 3-4 grams vitamin c, those issues

were completely resolved. The good stuff is that some of my hair

repigmented, some more hair grew back, age spots disappeared, skin

cleared up, bromide/fluoride/mercury/heavy metals left my body, and

my FIBROCYSTIC BREAST DISEASE CLEARED UP, etc etc etc. I've really

had multiple benefits from it. I wish it would have grown my thyroid

back, but oh well...

What I have learned about iodine/iodide is that it can potentialy

cure some thyroid issues, protect against cancers, cure some cancers,

fix things in the body that were previously unfixable, etc. Just

because some of the simps in this group bash it due to lack of

knowledge about it doesn't mean it's something to be scared away

from. It's been used for over 200 years so there's definitely

something there. Just like desiccated thyroid being used for over 100

years...people wouldn't use this stuff if it wasn't effective. Ya

know?

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

>

> I was planning on trying Iodine. I have read a few people's post's

of their

> bad experiences with it.

>

> Anyone else have a bad experience? Anyone OTHER THAT GRACIA

have a good

> experience?

>

> Not sure what to do.

>

> AJ

[Guest guest]

I have been advised not to take Iodine because of my thyroid condition many

times.

My mother was given iodine for her thyroid problems, and all I know is that

she ended

up with a goiter that had to be surgically removed. I am not willing to risk

that. I guess

if you don't have any thyroid at all, it might not matter.

Roni

AthleticItaliano@... wrote:

I was planning on trying Iodine. I have read a few people's post's of

their

bad experiences with it.

Anyone else have a bad experience? Anyone OTHER THAT GRACIA have a good

experience?

Not sure what to do.

AJ

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I thought you said you joined the iodine group? you should be getting more

accurate info than this. you would know that iodine/iodide at the right dose is

the cure for goiter.

As you know, the thyroid gland sucks up iodide.

goiter=iodine deficiency.

we don't have to throw the baby out with the bath water b/c allopathic medicne

doesn't know how to use iodine!

it is used by the whole body, so having/not having a thyroid gland is not

relevant. HELP STAMP OUT IODINE MYTHS.

Gracia

I have been advised not to take Iodine because of my thyroid condition many

times.

My mother was given iodine for her thyroid problems, and all I know is that

she ended

up with a goiter that had to be surgically removed. I am not willing to risk

that. I guess

if you don't have any thyroid at all, it might not matter.

Roni

AthleticItaliano@... wrote:

I was planning on trying Iodine. I have read a few people's post's of their

bad experiences with it.

Anyone else have a bad experience? Anyone OTHER THAT GRACIA have a good

experience?

Not sure what to do.

AJ

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[Guest guest]

That is exactly my point. If you are thyroidless, the idodine might help you, or

not.

However, if you do still have a thyroid I don't think that it is the way to

go, unless

you are desperately trying to destroy your thyroid entirely.

As for bias, just because some people are in favor of one way to go, and that

does

not agree with the way you want to go, it doesn't mean that only one group is

biased.

Both groups are biased for their own reasons, and each ones point of view is

valid.

As far as I know, there are no thought police yet.

Roni

Sam <k9gang@...> wrote:

AJ,

please join the iodine group for more information on iodine/iodide.

Pretty much anything said in this group is going to be ridiculed to

some degree, so it's best to go somewhere that has the info out there

in an unbiased way: http://health.grops./group/iodine

Also the info site: www.iodine4health.com

I take Iodoral and also give my dogs Lugol's Solution (I actually

have a 13 year old Basenji who looks and acts like a puppy!).

In general, the bad things I had were entirely from detoxing bromide

out of my body, but after taking 3-4 grams vitamin c, those issues

were completely resolved. The good stuff is that some of my hair

repigmented, some more hair grew back, age spots disappeared, skin

cleared up, bromide/fluoride/mercury/heavy metals left my body, and

my FIBROCYSTIC BREAST DISEASE CLEARED UP, etc etc etc. I've really

had multiple benefits from it. I wish it would have grown my thyroid

back, but oh well...

What I have learned about iodine/iodide is that it can potentialy

cure some thyroid issues, protect against cancers, cure some cancers,

fix things in the body that were previously unfixable, etc. Just

because some of the simps in this group bash it due to lack of

knowledge about it doesn't mean it's something to be scared away

from. It's been used for over 200 years so there's definitely

something there. Just like desiccated thyroid being used for over 100

years...people wouldn't use this stuff if it wasn't effective. Ya

know?

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

>

> I was planning on trying Iodine. I have read a few people's post's

of their

> bad experiences with it.

>

> Anyone else have a bad experience? Anyone OTHER THAT GRACIA

have a good

> experience?

>

> Not sure what to do.

>

> AJ

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[Guest guest]

some of us are biased in favor of what works! we don't need to bankrupt

ourselves with genetic testing and professional opinions---we can just do it!!

ooo

Gracia

That is exactly my point. If you are thyroidless, the idodine might help you,

or not.

However, if you do still have a thyroid I don't think that it is the way to

go, unless

you are desperately trying to destroy your thyroid entirely.

As for bias, just because some people are in favor of one way to go, and that

does

not agree with the way you want to go, it doesn't mean that only one group is

biased.

Both groups are biased for their own reasons, and each ones point of view is

valid.

As far as I know, there are no thought police yet.

Roni

Sam <k9gang@...> wrote:

AJ,

please join the iodine group for more information on iodine/iodide.

Pretty much anything said in this group is going to be ridiculed to

some degree, so it's best to go somewhere that has the info out there

in an unbiased way: http://health.grops./group/iodine

Also the info site: www.iodine4health.com

I take Iodoral and also give my dogs Lugol's Solution (I actually

have a 13 year old Basenji who looks and acts like a puppy!).

In general, the bad things I had were entirely from detoxing bromide

out of my body, but after taking 3-4 grams vitamin c, those issues

were completely resolved. The good stuff is that some of my hair

repigmented, some more hair grew back, age spots disappeared, skin

cleared up, bromide/fluoride/mercury/heavy metals left my body, and

my FIBROCYSTIC BREAST DISEASE CLEARED UP, etc etc etc. I've really

had multiple benefits from it. I wish it would have grown my thyroid

back, but oh well...

What I have learned about iodine/iodide is that it can potentialy

cure some thyroid issues, protect against cancers, cure some cancers,

fix things in the body that were previously unfixable, etc. Just

because some of the simps in this group bash it due to lack of

knowledge about it doesn't mean it's something to be scared away

from. It's been used for over 200 years so there's definitely

something there. Just like desiccated thyroid being used for over 100

years...people wouldn't use this stuff if it wasn't effective. Ya

know?

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

>

> I was planning on trying Iodine. I have read a few people's post's

of their

> bad experiences with it.

>

> Anyone else have a bad experience? Anyone OTHER THAT GRACIA

have a good

> experience?

>

> Not sure what to do.

>

> AJ

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[Guest guest]

Well, as far as thought police are concerned, I know of one person

who thinks he/she is, but thankfully he/she is not a member of this

group. <evil grin>

Well, um, as to iodine and the thyroid, or rather iodine/iodide and

the entire body, um, uh, it really is important to understand the

real deal info on it all rather than a few ditties here and there.

If you're a member of the iodine group, go into the files

section and read that stuff. It's amazing and totally interesting as

all get out. Believe me, I was such a skeptic about iodine and after

reading everything I could get my grubby little hands on, I'm totally

not a skeptic anymore. But do whatever you'd like.

You said your mom developed a goiter after taking iodine? Most of the

time a goiter is due to iodine deficiency, so I wonder what sort of

iodine she was given, and if it was indeed inorganic iodine if it

wasn't enough (which for the thyroid " only " is 150mcg).

Hmm, try this place: http://www.naturalthyroidchoices.com/

and click on " iodine " ...it's written by a thyroid cancer patient who

is studying to become a naturopath.

Remember, you're closer to Hanford country than I am...but then again

I'm not far enough away from it being only in Blaine. You know what

they (the US gov't) give for radioactivity? Inorganic Iodine.

Um, I take Iodoral because my entire body was iodine deficient and I

was looking at breast cancer and other cancers (mother died with

brain cancer). I am sooo p*ssed off about this breast cancer crap -

letting women hack off their breasts and/or die of breast cancer

rather than let them reverse it with inorganic iodine (proven to cure

up to 3rd stage) - they don't even talk about the use of inorganic

iodine, and it's so infuriating.

It's not just for the thyroid, it's for the entire body. As I said,

do whatever you choose, but at least consider checking out the real

deal info about it all because it's quite interesting and pretty

amazing.

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

> >

> > I was planning on trying Iodine. I have read a few people's

post's

> of their

> > bad experiences with it.

> >

> > Anyone else have a bad experience? Anyone OTHER THAT GRACIA

> have a good

> > experience?

> >

> > Not sure what to do.

> >

> > AJ

>

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[Guest guest]

I don't see where I need any more iodine than I am already taking. There is

iodine in my

multi and there is iodine in T3T4 medication I am taking, and I don't, at this

time, feel I

want to take more. As I said before, if a person is without a thyroid gland, I

am sure the

parameters are different. Thank you for the information.

Roni

Sam <k9gang@...> wrote:

Well, as far as thought police are concerned, I know of one person

who thinks he/she is, but thankfully he/she is not a member of this

group. <evil grin>

Well, um, as to iodine and the thyroid, or rather iodine/iodide and

the entire body, um, uh, it really is important to understand the

real deal info on it all rather than a few ditties here and there.

If you're a member of the iodine group, go into the files

section and read that stuff. It's amazing and totally interesting as

all get out. Believe me, I was such a skeptic about iodine and after

reading everything I could get my grubby little hands on, I'm totally

not a skeptic anymore. But do whatever you'd like.

You said your mom developed a goiter after taking iodine? Most of the

time a goiter is due to iodine deficiency, so I wonder what sort of

iodine she was given, and if it was indeed inorganic iodine if it

wasn't enough (which for the thyroid " only " is 150mcg).

Hmm, try this place: http://www.naturalthyroidchoices.com/

and click on " iodine " ...it's written by a thyroid cancer patient who

is studying to become a naturopath.

Remember, you're closer to Hanford country than I am...but then again

I'm not far enough away from it being only in Blaine. You know what

they (the US gov't) give for radioactivity? Inorganic Iodine.

Um, I take Iodoral because my entire body was iodine deficient and I

was looking at breast cancer and other cancers (mother died with

brain cancer). I am sooo p*ssed off about this breast cancer crap -

letting women hack off their breasts and/or die of breast cancer

rather than let them reverse it with inorganic iodine (proven to cure

up to 3rd stage) - they don't even talk about the use of inorganic

iodine, and it's so infuriating.

It's not just for the thyroid, it's for the entire body. As I said,

do whatever you choose, but at least consider checking out the real

deal info about it all because it's quite interesting and pretty

amazing.

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

> >

> > I was planning on trying Iodine. I have read a few people's

post's

> of their

> > bad experiences with it.

> >

> > Anyone else have a bad experience? Anyone OTHER THAT GRACIA

> have a good

> > experience?

> >

> > Not sure what to do.

> >

> > AJ

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> ... As you know, the thyroid gland sucks up iodide....

According to this study in 2001, the total iodine content in the

thyroids of healthy young men is 10 mg. The total for the entire body is

14.6 mg.

http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/105072501750362745?journalCode=thy

Thus, you are recommending much more iodine in a single day's dose than

a healthy thyroid can ever absorb, and much more than the average body

will retain. The thyroid " sucks up " iodine in the mcg range. If iodine

has the miraculous properties you ascribe to it, it is because it acts

as a drug, not because it is a nutritional requirement at those

" therapeutic " levels.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Sam,

You wrote:

>

> ... Most of the

> time a goiter is due to iodine deficiency, so I wonder what sort of

> iodine she was given, and if it was indeed inorganic iodine if it

> wasn't enough (which for the thyroid " only " is 150mcg)....

Both too much and too little can cause goiter. Here is what the Merck

Manual says:

" Excess consumption of iodine is uncommon. It usually results from

taking iodine supplements to treat a prolonged iodine deficiency.

Sometimes people who live near the sea consume too much iodine because

they eat a lot of seafood and drink water that is high in iodine. Iodine

excess may cause the thyroid gland to become overactive and produce

excess thyroid hormones (a disorder called hyperthyroidism (see Thyroid

Gland Disorders: Hyperthyroidism). As a result, the thyroid gland

enlarges, forming a goiter. "

It's one of those effects of toxicity that I have mentioned. However,

goiter is more commonly a result of a slight overdose over a long period

than an acute overdose, which is what you and Gracia seem to enjoy.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I have been on 50mg iodine/iodide for two years now. I continue to feel that

it is making me stronger and healthier. However it does it, it works. I am

not the rare exception either.

today I ran out of Armour and couldn't get my car started to pick some up.

(below zero). I definately still need the Armour with the Iodoral.

all the studies you cite just reinforce my total skepticism of allopathic

medicine. I think iodine is a huge threat to big pharma and I think this will

be sorted out soon enough.

and remember the Japanese are supposed to get 12.5mg iodine/iodide per day.

Gracia

Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> ... As you know, the thyroid gland sucks up iodide....

According to this study in 2001, the total iodine content in the

thyroids of healthy young men is 10 mg. The total for the entire body is

14.6 mg.

http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/105072501750362745?journalCode=thy

Thus, you are recommending much more iodine in a single day's dose than

a healthy thyroid can ever absorb, and much more than the average body

will retain. The thyroid " sucks up " iodine in the mcg range. If iodine

has the miraculous properties you ascribe to it, it is because it acts

as a drug, not because it is a nutritional requirement at those

" therapeutic " levels.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

This seems so reasonable and correct to me. My mother was dosed with iodine by a

doctor, and some time down the road developed the goiter that was operated.

My family has always eaten fish, but not to excess, salt, but not to excess,

and meat, veggies, fruit, bread and grains, milk, cheese, eggs nuts, as well as

vitamin supplementation. My supplement has 150mcgs of iodine.

I have other autoimmune problems, as well as allergies, and don't really see

the validity

of iodine for me at this time.

Thank you Chuck for again putting this info out for us.

Roni

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

Sam,

You wrote:

>

> ... Most of the

> time a goiter is due to iodine deficiency, so I wonder what sort of

> iodine she was given, and if it was indeed inorganic iodine if it

> wasn't enough (which for the thyroid " only " is 150mcg)....

Both too much and too little can cause goiter. Here is what the Merck

Manual says:

" Excess consumption of iodine is uncommon. It usually results from

taking iodine supplements to treat a prolonged iodine deficiency.

Sometimes people who live near the sea consume too much iodine because

they eat a lot of seafood and drink water that is high in iodine. Iodine

excess may cause the thyroid gland to become overactive and produce

excess thyroid hormones (a disorder called hyperthyroidism (see Thyroid

Gland Disorders: Hyperthyroidism). As a result, the thyroid gland

enlarges, forming a goiter. "

It's one of those effects of toxicity that I have mentioned. However,

goiter is more commonly a result of a slight overdose over a long period

than an acute overdose, which is what you and Gracia seem to enjoy.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

Chuck darling, that is so silly... The human body has a habit of only

holding on to whatever iodine it needs and pees/poops out what it

doesn't need. It doesn't build up after sufficiency, and it doesn't

really hold on to iodine all that long anyway, darn it. But boy oh

boy if all those braniac allopaths out there can figure out how to

actually get the human body to retain iodine like they say it does,

please let me know because I'd like to stop taking Iodoral at some

point 'cause I hate taking pills.

Uh-oh, me thinks you guys really don't understand how all this

stuff works. I'm just a little insignificant mouthy chick and

even " I " understand it. But then again I haven't been concentrating

on reading only the mainstream stuff, I've been trying to read it

all.

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

> >

> > ... Most of the

> > time a goiter is due to iodine deficiency, so I wonder what sort

of

> > iodine she was given, and if it was indeed inorganic iodine if it

> > wasn't enough (which for the thyroid " only " is 150mcg)....

>

> Both too much and too little can cause goiter. Here is what the

Merck

> Manual says:

>

> " Excess consumption of iodine is uncommon. It usually results from

> taking iodine supplements to treat a prolonged iodine deficiency.

> Sometimes people who live near the sea consume too much iodine

because

> they eat a lot of seafood and drink water that is high in iodine.

Iodine

> excess may cause the thyroid gland to become overactive and produce

> excess thyroid hormones (a disorder called hyperthyroidism (see

Thyroid

> Gland Disorders: Hyperthyroidism). As a result, the thyroid gland

> enlarges, forming a goiter. "

>

> It's one of those effects of toxicity that I have mentioned.

However,

> goiter is more commonly a result of a slight overdose over a long

period

> than an acute overdose, which is what you and Gracia seem to enjoy.

>

> Chuck

>

[Guest guest]

But the thyroid is just a small part of it. With or without a thyroid

thousands are iodine deficient. I suppose if one completely

eliminates all toxic halogens, heavy metals, and goitrogens from

their diet 100% whatever iodine is in their multivitamins might be

sufficient. Oh man do I ever hate taking pills.

Have you read the stuff at www.breastcancerchoices.org ???

Oh and the stuff that's available to read at www.google.com

when you do a search with these words together:

autoimmune " iodine deficiency "

It's WOW.

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

> > >

> > > I was planning on trying Iodine. I have read a few people's

> post's

> > of their

> > > bad experiences with it.

> > >

> > > Anyone else have a bad experience? Anyone OTHER THAT GRACIA

> > have a good

> > > experience?

> > >

> > > Not sure what to do.

> > >

> > > AJ

> >

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