Re: Anyone have constipation associated with thyroid meds?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

So, it sounds like what you are saying is that you have a constipation

problem??

Just kidding,

Okay, we'll leave it alone then.

<res075oh@...> wrote:

There seems to be an echo in here! [ggg]

I DON'T HAVE A CONSTIPATION PROBLEM. I've been constipated twice in my

life.

But I'm glad you got back to a healthy regimen.

>

> Re: Anyone have constipation associated with thyroid meds?

>

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>

>

> Posted by: " Nora Alves " noraalves@...

>

<mailto:noraalves@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Anyone%20have%20constipation%20as\

sociated%20with%20thyroid%20meds%3F>

> noraalves <noraalves>

>

>

> Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:18 am (PST)

>

>

> Hello

>

> I really enjoy reading everybody's experiences and

> continue to learn from them daily.

>

> I would like to share with you my own experience. I

> suffered terribly from constipation, nothing helped

> me, whether it was enormous amount of fibre, fruit,

> splitting foods, etc. Eventually, on my insistence,

> my doctor raised my thyroid medication, and I have

> never had constipation problems again - apparently it

> is one of the symptoms of being hypothyroid. I am on

> T4/T3 combination and have never felt better in years.

>

> Blessings to everyone.

> Nora.

[Guest guest]

OH people are in great form today!!!

Venizia

- In hypothyroidism , and Irwin

<familyirwin@...> wrote:

>

> Hi ,

> So, it sounds like what you are saying is that you have a

constipation problem??

>

> Just kidding,

> Okay, we'll leave it alone then.

>

>

> <res075oh@...> wrote:

> There seems to be an echo in here! [ggg]

>

> I DON'T HAVE A CONSTIPATION PROBLEM. I've been constipated twice in my

> life.

>

> But I'm glad you got back to a healthy regimen.

>

>

>

> >

> > Re: Anyone have constipation associated with thyroid meds?

> >

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jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIwMDc0MTgxOA-->

> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " Nora Alves " noraalves@...

> >

<mailto:noraalves@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Anyone%20have%20constipation%20associat\

ed%20with%20thyroid%20meds%3F>

> > noraalves <noraalves>

> >

> >

> > Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:18 am (PST)

> >

> >

> > Hello

> >

> > I really enjoy reading everybody's experiences and

> > continue to learn from them daily.

> >

> > I would like to share with you my own experience. I

> > suffered terribly from constipation, nothing helped

> > me, whether it was enormous amount of fibre, fruit,

> > splitting foods, etc. Eventually, on my insistence,

> > my doctor raised my thyroid medication, and I have

> > never had constipation problems again - apparently it

> > is one of the symptoms of being hypothyroid. I am on

> > T4/T3 combination and have never felt better in years.

> >

> > Blessings to everyone.

> > Nora.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It did lower my TSH numbers; and the TSH numbers were the only

indication that I was hypothyroid.

My TSH has been tested several times; it was tested twice before I

started Synthroid. A routine blood test showed my TSH above 5.5, and a

follow up test a month or two later showed it had increased to above

6.5. I then started Synthroid, and my TSH dropped. I think my last

test showed about 4.7, which is higher than the new upper limit that

most here prefer. But as I have no symptoms I haven't asked that my

Synthroid be increased. I only take 75 mcg/day, and probably should

take at least 100 mcg. Especially given that I pay no attention to when

I eat or take other medications wrt taking the Synthroid.

My doctor is apparently content to test maybe once per year as long as I

don't exhibit negative symptoms and my TSH is reasonably normal. I'll

probably ask for a retest when my prescription runs out [if not before]

and ask to be raised to 100 mcg/day if my TSH is still about the same.

I've mentioned more than once that I feel more than a little embarrassed

and out of place here, given how well I feel and how miserable so many

people here feel. Life just seems so unfair when I can feel great on 75

mcg/day Synthroid, and other's seem to be literally fighting a losing

battle for their lives; and feeling completely like sh*t while they do.

I'll bet there are some here from time to time who would follow Gracia's

or Sam's regimen in order to feel as good as they do, even if they knew

it would kill them in five years. At least that's my interpretation of

how rotten they feel.

>

> Re: Anyone have constipation associated with thyroid meds?

>

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

>

<mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Anyone%20have%20constipation%20\

associated%20with%20thyroid%20meds%3F>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:22 am (PST)

>

> , if you don't feel the synthroid is doing anything for you, why

> don't you stop it for

> about a month and then get retested and see what it says. Sometimes

> test results are

> wrong for one reason or another, sometimes the tech, sometimes the

> typist, who knows?

>

> It just seems that is you didn't have symptoms and don't feel any

> different, it should be

> checked again. Isn't that what you would recommend to someone else in

> the same

> circumstances?

>

> Roni

>

> <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> I keep saying I DON'T HAVE A CONSTIPATION PROBLEM; have only been

> constipated twice in 67 years. I also don't have a " slow bowel transit

> time " ; as a matter of fact if I eat blueberries at noon today by 8:00 PM

> I will have a blue stool. I am exceedingly regular.

>

> Once a counselor suggested I might read the newspaper in the john rather

> than at the dining table. I replied that I guess I could read the

> headline. I sit down, do what I came to do, take care of the paperwork

> and leave. I don't meditate there...

>

> I am being treated with Synthroid; and by your standards it must be

> doing a wonderful job. However, I personally don't think it has any

> effect. I had no hypo symptoms either before or after taking it. As a

> matter of fact when I told my wife I was diagnosed as hypothyroid due to

> an elevated TSH she exclaimed: " You CAN'T be hypothyroid; every thing

> about you indicates hyperthyroid "

> . I guess you would agree with her; as

> my personal symptoms are the opposite of those you list below.

>

> Which just points out: We're all different in our sameness...[ggg]

>

>

>

> > A proper dose of thyroid med should also contribute to your regularity,

> > constipation and slow bowel transit time is --->a MAJOR<--- sign of

> > hypothyroidism. You are probably being dosed by a TSH worshiper with

> > Levoxyl. :-/

> >

> > Neil

[Guest guest]

OH! is constipated? hmmmm

Iodine might help!

Gracia

Hi ,

So, it sounds like what you are saying is that you have a constipation

problem??

Just kidding,

Okay, we'll leave it alone then.

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[Guest guest]

,

TSH is almost meaningless, values can be all over the roadmap with no close

correlation to actual FT3 and FT4 levels. So a much better indication is

your blood levels of FT3 and FT4 and a physical examination. TSH is a

pituitary blood marker, not a thyroid measurement.

75mcgs only suppresses your thyroid, and you end up back at the beginning

after a few months after the feedback loop corrects. It takes 200-300mcgs to

" take over " from your thyroid for a truly hypothyroid patient. Better yet, 2

to 4 grains of Armour thyroid, giving the body what it truly needs.

Neil

_____

From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ]

On Behalf Of

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:35 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: Anyone have constipation associated with

thyroid meds?

It did lower my TSH numbers; and the TSH numbers were the only

indication that I was hypothyroid.

My TSH has been tested several times; it was tested twice before I

started Synthroid. A routine blood test showed my TSH above 5.5, and a

follow up test a month or two later showed it had increased to above

6.5. I then started Synthroid, and my TSH dropped. I think my last

test showed about 4.7, which is higher than the new upper limit that

most here prefer. But as I have no symptoms I haven't asked that my

Synthroid be increased. I only take 75 mcg/day, and probably should

take at least 100 mcg. Especially given that I pay no attention to when

I eat or take other medications wrt taking the Synthroid.

My doctor is apparently content to test maybe once per year as long as I

don't exhibit negative symptoms and my TSH is reasonably normal. I'll

probably ask for a retest when my prescription runs out [if not before]

and ask to be raised to 100 mcg/day if my TSH is still about the same.

I've mentioned more than once that I feel more than a little embarrassed

and out of place here, given how well I feel and how miserable so many

people here feel. Life just seems so unfair when I can feel great on 75

mcg/day Synthroid, and other's seem to be literally fighting a losing

battle for their lives; and feeling completely like sh*t while they do.

I'll bet there are some here from time to time who would follow Gracia's

or Sam's regimen in order to feel as good as they do, even if they knew

it would kill them in five years. At least that's my interpretation of

how rotten they feel.

>

> Re: Anyone have constipation associated with thyroid meds?

> <http://groups.

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>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@ <mailto:matchermaam%40>

> <mailto:matchermaam@ <mailto:matchermaam%40>

?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Anyone%20have%20constipation%20associated%20wit

h%20thyroid%20meds%3F>

> matchermaam <http://profiles. <matchermaam>

/matchermaam>

>

>

> Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:22 am (PST)

>

> , if you don't feel the synthroid is doing anything for you, why

> don't you stop it for

> about a month and then get retested and see what it says. Sometimes

> test results are

> wrong for one reason or another, sometimes the tech, sometimes the

> typist, who knows?

>

> It just seems that is you didn't have symptoms and don't feel any

> different, it should be

> checked again. Isn't that what you would recommend to someone else in

> the same

> circumstances?

>

> Roni

>

> <res075ohverizon (DOT) <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net> net

<mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> I keep saying I DON'T HAVE A CONSTIPATION PROBLEM; have only been

> constipated twice in 67 years. I also don't have a " slow bowel transit

> time " ; as a matter of fact if I eat blueberries at noon today by 8:00 PM

> I will have a blue stool. I am exceedingly regular.

>

> Once a counselor suggested I might read the newspaper in the john rather

> than at the dining table. I replied that I guess I could read the

> headline. I sit down, do what I came to do, take care of the paperwork

> and leave. I don't meditate there...

>

> I am being treated with Synthroid; and by your standards it must be

> doing a wonderful job. However, I personally don't think it has any

> effect. I had no hypo symptoms either before or after taking it. As a

> matter of fact when I told my wife I was diagnosed as hypothyroid due to

> an elevated TSH she exclaimed: " You CAN'T be hypothyroid; every thing

> about you indicates hyperthyroid "

> . I guess you would agree with her; as

> my personal symptoms are the opposite of those you list below.

>

> Which just points out: We're all different in our sameness...[ggg]

>

>

>

> > A proper dose of thyroid med should also contribute to your regularity,

> > constipation and slow bowel transit time is --->a MAJOR<--- sign of

> > hypothyroidism. You are probably being dosed by a TSH worshiper with

> > Levoxyl. :-/

> >

> > Neil

[Guest guest]

My personal take on TSH numbers is that they are probably pretty

reliable for those who DO NOT have a thyroid problem. I'm not sure that

they are not reliable for a large percentage of people who are in fact

hypo or hyper; however, there is considerable anecdotal evidence here

that the TSH numbers in many cases do not provide proper treatment

guidance. I think that for an untreated person they just keep rising,

so are probably reliable in that case. But they do not indicate how

much replacement you need; but more indicate how long you have been hypo.

I do not believe 75 mcg/day of Synthroid is anywhere near enough to

suppress the thyroid, but I'm open to peer reviewed evidence to the

contrary.

In any event, some people have partial thyroid function, at least for a

time, and they do not need a full replacement dosage.

As long as I feel fine and my numbers are reasonable I'm not too

motivated to do a lot of detailed research. But if I start to feel like

some here [death warmed over! {ggg}] then I will be seeking information

on iodine and everything else that might help.

>

> Re: Anyone have constipation associated with thyroid meds?

>

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " neil " neilneil@...

>

<mailto:neilneil@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Anyone%20have%20constipation%\

20associated%20with%20thyroid%20meds%3F>

> onewaypockets <onewaypockets>

>

>

> Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:07 pm (PST)

>

> ,

>

> TSH is almost meaningless, values can be all over the roadmap with no

> close

> correlation to actual FT3 and FT4 levels. So a much better indication is

> your blood levels of FT3 and FT4 and a physical examination. TSH is a

> pituitary blood marker, not a thyroid measurement.

>

> 75mcgs only suppresses your thyroid, and you end up back at the beginning

> after a few months after the feedback loop corrects. It takes

> 200-300mcgs to

> " take over " from your thyroid for a truly hypothyroid patient. Better

> yet, 2

> to 4 grains of Armour thyroid, giving the body what it truly needs.

>

> Neil

>

> _____

>

> From: hypothyroidism

> <mailto:hypothyroidism%40>

> [mailto:hypothyroidism

> <mailto:hypothyroidism%40>]

> On Behalf Of

> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:35 PM

> hypothyroidism

> <mailto:hypothyroidism%40>

> Subject: Re: Anyone have constipation associated with

> thyroid meds?

>

> It did lower my TSH numbers; and the TSH numbers were the only

> indication that I was hypothyroid.

>

> My TSH has been tested several times; it was tested twice before I

> started Synthroid. A routine blood test showed my TSH above 5.5, and a

> follow up test a month or two later showed it had increased to above

> 6.5. I then started Synthroid, and my TSH dropped. I think my last

> test showed about 4.7, which is higher than the new upper limit that

> most here prefer. But as I have no symptoms I haven't asked that my

> Synthroid be increased. I only take 75 mcg/day, and probably should

> take at least 100 mcg. Especially given that I pay no attention to when

> I eat or take other medications wrt taking the Synthroid.

>

> My doctor is apparently content to test maybe once per year as long as I

> don't exhibit negative symptoms and my TSH is reasonably normal. I'll

> probably ask for a retest when my prescription runs out [if not before]

> and ask to be raised to 100 mcg/day if my TSH is still about the same.

>

> I've mentioned more than once that I feel more than a little embarrassed

> and out of place here, given how well I feel and how miserable so many

> people here feel. Life just seems so unfair when I can feel great on 75

> mcg/day Synthroid, and other's seem to be literally fighting a losing

> battle for their lives; and feeling completely like sh*t while they do.

>

> I'll bet there are some here from time to time who would follow Gracia's

> or Sam's regimen in order to feel as good as they do, even if they knew

> it would kill them in five years. At least that's my interpretation of

> how rotten they feel.

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

From what I understand this is how the " feedback " thing works with the

thyroid and taking thyroid meds...Neil

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=239

" Everytime you increase the Armour dose, this replaces some natural

thyroid production, your TSH goes down a little and your total thyroid

hormone level (natural and med) ends up about at what it was before

the dose increase.

Imagine that a healthy optimal level of natural human thyroid hormone

is 10 units.

A hypothetical person with hypothyroidism has thyroid hormone level of

6 units . Giving 1 unit of hormone med will, for a short time get that

person up to 7 units and may make them feel a little better, but then

TSH goes down a little and natural thyroid hormone production will be

supressed down to 5. Now that person is back where they started (1

unit med plus now 5 units natural). The 1 med unit suppressed their

natural thyroid hormone by the same amount. Every increase will do this.

Every time you increase, this just replaces some of the natural

hormone. Once the hypothetical persons natural production is all

replaced by Armour Thyroid (the 6 natural units, now being replaced by

6 thyroid med units), now you can go beyond 6 and eventually work up

to 10.

Of course this doesnt work exactly 1 for 1 replacement, but close to it.

This way of treating works for secondaries and primarys. Once

treatment starts TSH means very little. Getting a good level of T3 and

T4, eradicating symptoms and feeling good is what matters.

A full optimal dose of Armour in self treating is usually between 3

and 5 grains, though some report having to go higher. Many are

reporting much better results self treating their thyroid than when

their doc treated them with much less Armour.

Most people use Armour, Naturthroid or Thyroid-S. I've only seen a few

people say they were self treating with a separate synthetic T4 and T3

med, but from what they are reporting, in my opinion they aren't

getting as good of results as the those who are taking natural. Not

necessarily saying that natural is better (but it is), but in my

opinion from what I've seen others report, it's seems to be much

harder to self treat with separate T3 and T4.

TSH alone can't show if your hyperthyroid. TSH is really not good for

anything when used by itself. The frees are way better for showing if

you may be hyper. It's important to very familiarize ones self with

what are symptoms of hyper. Fast resting pulse (above 90, for sure

100), respirations above 15 can be a first indicator. Hyper can sneak

up on you. Email me and I'll send you my list of hyper symptoms.

If you dose slowly, hyperlike symptoms shouldn't be a problem assuming

cortisol is addressed. The biggest rule to follow is wait 6 weeks

between dose increases after reaching 2 1/2 grains. To test that I

tried 3 and 4 weeks and was chasing my tail. When I went to 6 weeks I

could figure out what was happening. It takes that long for a dose

increase to reach it's full effect.

For more details on how to self dose, see this page.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/mistakes-patients-make/

and this sticky

My explaination on how to be successful in your HRT.

Keep a log and record vitals, symptoms, how you feel, your thoughts,

etc. This will help greatly with decisions and figuring out what dose

you felt best at if you went a little over.

I always recommend to anyone interested in self treating their thyroid

to get everything tested first and get familiar with Armour under a

docs care. An osteopath is very good for all that. I also strongly

recommend one learn how to self treat from others who are successfully

self treating and informs them of their progress. " "

>

> My personal take on TSH numbers is that they are probably pretty

> reliable for those who DO NOT have a thyroid problem. I'm not sure

that

> they are not reliable for a large percentage of people who are in fact

> hypo or hyper; however, there is considerable anecdotal evidence here

> that the TSH numbers in many cases do not provide proper treatment

> guidance. I think that for an untreated person they just keep rising,

> so are probably reliable in that case. But they do not indicate how

> much replacement you need; but more indicate how long you have been

hypo.

>

> I do not believe 75 mcg/day of Synthroid is anywhere near enough to

> suppress the thyroid, but I'm open to peer reviewed evidence to the

> contrary.

>

> In any event, some people have partial thyroid function, at least for a

> time, and they do not need a full replacement dosage.

>

> As long as I feel fine and my numbers are reasonable I'm not too

> motivated to do a lot of detailed research. But if I start to feel

like

> some here [death warmed over! {ggg}] then I will be seeking information

> on iodine and everything else that might help.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Neil, some of this agrees with what I just said; and some of it I

strongly doubt. And some of it may be true, but I haven't a clue. But

in as much as I'm feeling well and my numbers are within reason then I'm

not too motivated to find out a lot of the pertinent facts.

But thanks for the info. If I should begin to feel like h*ll I'll be

looking for a repost on a lot of messages...

>

> Re: Anyone have constipation associated with thyroid meds?

>

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " neil " neilneil@...

>

<mailto:neilneil@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Anyone%20have%20constipation%\

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> onewaypockets <onewaypockets>

>

>

> Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:55 am (PST)

>

> ,

>

> >From what I understand this is how the " feedback " thing works with the

> thyroid and taking thyroid meds...Neil

>

> http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=239

> <http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=239>

> " Everytime you increase the Armour dose, this replaces some natural

> thyroid production, your TSH goes down a little and your total thyroid

> hormone level (natural and med) ends up about at what it was before

> the dose increase.

>

> Imagine that a healthy optimal level of natural human thyroid hormone

> is 10 units.

>

> A hypothetical person with hypothyroidism has thyroid hormone level of

> 6 units . Giving 1 unit of hormone med will, for a short time get that

> person up to 7 units and may make them feel a little better, but then

> TSH goes down a little and natural thyroid hormone production will be

> supressed down to 5. Now that person is back where they started (1

> unit med plus now 5 units natural). The 1 med unit suppressed their

> natural thyroid hormone by the same amount. Every increase will do this.

>

> Every time you increase, this just replaces some of the natural

> hormone. Once the hypothetical persons natural production is all

> replaced by Armour Thyroid (the 6 natural units, now being replaced by

> 6 thyroid med units), now you can go beyond 6 and eventually work up

> to 10.

>

> Of course this doesnt work exactly 1 for 1 replacement, but close to it.

>

> This way of treating works for secondaries and primarys. Once

> treatment starts TSH means very little. Getting a good level of T3 and

> T4, eradicating symptoms and feeling good is what matters.

>

> A full optimal dose of Armour in self treating is usually between 3

> and 5 grains, though some report having to go higher. Many are

> reporting much better results self treating their thyroid than when

> their doc treated them with much less Armour.

>

> Most people use Armour, Naturthroid or Thyroid-S. I've only seen a few

> people say they were self treating with a separate synthetic T4 and T3

> med, but from what they are reporting, in my opinion they aren't

> getting as good of results as the those who are taking natural. Not

> necessarily saying that natural is better (but it is), but in my

> opinion from what I've seen others report, it's seems to be much

> harder to self treat with separate T3 and T4.

>

> TSH alone can't show if your hyperthyroid. TSH is really not good for

> anything when used by itself. The frees are way better for showing if

> you may be hyper. It's important to very familiarize ones self with

> what are symptoms of hyper. Fast resting pulse (above 90, for sure

> 100), respirations above 15 can be a first indicator. Hyper can sneak

> up on you. Email me and I'll send you my list of hyper symptoms.

>

> If you dose slowly, hyperlike symptoms shouldn't be a problem assuming

> cortisol is addressed. The biggest rule to follow is wait 6 weeks

> between dose increases after reaching 2 1/2 grains. To test that I

> tried 3 and 4 weeks and was chasing my tail. When I went to 6 weeks I

> could figure out what was happening. It takes that long for a dose

> increase to reach it's full effect.

>

> For more details on how to self dose, see this page.

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/mistakes-patients-make/

> <http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/mistakes-patients-make/>

>

> and this sticky

> My explaination on how to be successful in your HRT.

>

> Keep a log and record vitals, symptoms, how you feel, your thoughts,

> etc. This will help greatly with decisions and figuring out what dose

> you felt best at if you went a little over.

>

> I always recommend to anyone interested in self treating their thyroid

> to get everything tested first and get familiar with Armour under a

> docs care. An osteopath is very good for all that. I also strongly

> recommend one learn how to self treat from others who are successfully

> self treating and informs them of their progress. " "

>

>

> >

> > My personal take on TSH numbers is that they are probably pretty

> > reliable for those who DO NOT have a thyroid problem. I'm not sure

> that

> > they are not reliable for a large percentage of people who are in fact

> > hypo or hyper; however, there is considerable anecdotal evidence here

> > that the TSH numbers in many cases do not provide proper treatment

> > guidance. I think that for an untreated person they just keep rising,

> > so are probably reliable in that case. But they do not indicate how

> > much replacement you need; but more indicate how long you have been

> hypo.

> >

> > I do not believe 75 mcg/day of Synthroid is anywhere near enough to

> > suppress the thyroid, but I'm open to peer reviewed evidence to the

> > contrary.

> >

> > In any event, some people have partial thyroid function, at least for a

> > time, and they do not need a full replacement dosage.

> >

> > As long as I feel fine and my numbers are reasonable I'm not too

> > motivated to do a lot of detailed research. But if I start to feel

> like

> > some here [death warmed over! {ggg}] then I will be seeking information

> > on iodine and everything else that might help.

> >

> >

> >