Guest guest Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 In a message dated 8/26/03 7:00:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, LLadden@... writes: > How do we get the professionals to listen????? > I think it helps if they have other PID patients!! That is why our Ped doesn't expect to run a temp. Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 Finally, validation! I keep telling the professionals that my 21 month old has a 'normal' rectal temp of 97.6, so that 100.6 is not a low grade temp to be ignored.. Noone listens, they either ignore what I am saying or look at me like I'm nuts! I don't know about anyone else, but I take my child's temp at least 3x daily, because he keeps running a temp- and try to catch severe infections b4 we end up in the hospital, so I really believe I am the expert on what his normal body temp is. How do we get the professionals to listen????? low body temps I have been going thru the same thing with my 9 year old since she was born. Her normal temp is 94.6 to 95.4. I say that anything over 95.4 is a fever, most doctors and nurses say NO. However, if you are consistently (ALWAYS) running the same and then you start with 96.2 or 98.9 or 99.9, then, that is a fever. I just always tell any/all (and all new nurses or doctors) that she runs a very low normal body temp and that if it is higher than 95.5 THEN she is running a fever. I still get the " look " , like I am crazy, but then I do know my child better than they do, so they should listen. Imuune Deficient kids do not run on a normal scale in anything, but getting the medical profession to realize that is going to be a life long battle. That is why it is so important that we as parents make sure we are the voices for our children. Xan, mom to 14 1/2 & Kaitlyn 9 1/2, CVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Hi , I'm no stranger to this--though it's not the case so much at this point, in the past I've had low body temps like yours. I think when Candida takes over your system, you almost have a different body with different processes going on--it's like new processes have taken over the factory for Candida's benefit. My hormonal processes were affected, in turn producing more body temp issues, and the vicious circle went on and on for a while. Flash forward to the present where I've also had very low blood pressure at times and my body temp rises at night for some reason. At this point my hands and feet tend to get cold easily during the day. From my experience, I've gone in and out of phases where this sort of thing happens according to where I am on the way back to health. Good luck, Alison > > Hi all: > > I'm still struggling with low temps (this morning before breakfast: > 96.1). I'm on 15 to 17.5 mg. cortisol for adrenal support, but not > taking any thyroid meds). I'm wondering how many with candida here have > (or had) low temps? I'm wondering if my temps are a symptom of yeast > infections or from mercury exposure or if my underlying problem is > endocrine in nature or ...?? > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Hi Alison: Thanks for the feedback. I've tried so many things to try to get health over the past 20 (yes, 20) years..... It's becoming clear to me that I'm not going to figure this out on my own. I'm about to throw in the towel and let the pro's have a crack at me again. This time I might try a good allergist who I've heard also is good at recognizing and treating candida. I'm not even sure if candida is an issue with me anymore... but possibly the aftermath from having leaky gut etc for decades needs to be addressed. Thanks again. > > > > Hi all: > > > > I'm still struggling with low temps (this morning before breakfast: > > 96.1). I'm on 15 to 17.5 mg. cortisol for adrenal support, but not > > taking any thyroid meds). I'm wondering how many with candida here have > > (or had) low temps? I'm wondering if my temps are a symptom of yeast > > infections or from mercury exposure or if my underlying problem is > > endocrine in nature or ...?? > > > > thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 I have always had low blood pressure, but not dangerously so. My low body temperature stopped completely once my candida was cured. W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Suzanne, For the T4, different labs use different reagents, so they have different reference ranges. Most lab numbers are pretty meaningless without the reference range or absolute units. TSH is usually based on absolute units, so it is not as critical. Yours could safely go a bit lower, but your doctor is unlikely to want to push it. Chuck > > > Hi everyone. > > I realise I don't post very often but I read your emails all of the > time. I recently had test results THS 0.425 and T4 = 10. I am taking > 90mg Armour per day and feel good most of the time. May body temps are > below 36 degs which I believe are too low and I am afraid it will effect > my heart. Advice please > > --------------------------------- > Sent from . > A Smarter Email. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 I think 90mg Armour is just too low. Effective dose is 180--300mg. gracia Hi everyone. I realise I don't post very often but I read your emails all of the time. I recently had test results THS 0.425 and T4 = 10. I am taking 90mg Armour per day and feel good most of the time. May body temps are below 36 degs which I believe are too low and I am afraid it will effect my heart. Advice please --------------------------------- Sent from . A Smarter Email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Gracia, You wrote: > > I think 90mg Armour is just too low. > Effective dose is 180--300mg. Then you must know better than the manufacturer themselves. Forest Pharmaceuticals says that 90 mg is the maximum dose. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Chuck, Please provide a link or exact paste, that is NOT the information I just read off Forest's web site. Neil _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Chuck B Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 4:42 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Low body temps Gracia, You wrote: > > I think 90mg Armour is just too low. > Effective dose is 180--300mg. Then you must know better than the manufacturer themselves. Forest Pharmaceuticals says that 90 mg is the maximum dose. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 I know better about a lot of things concerning thyroid! so I guess the answer is yes. noibody on 90mg is well. Gracia Gracia, You wrote: > > I think 90mg Armour is just too low. > Effective dose is 180--300mg. Then you must know better than the manufacturer themselves. Forest Pharmaceuticals says that 90 mg is the maximum dose. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 neil whiteaker wrote: > > Please provide a link or exact paste, that is NOT the information I just > read off Forest's web site. What's wrong with Forest's web site? They post their recommended maximum. They ARE the manufacturer. That pretty well documents what I said, that the manufacturer sets the maximum at 3 grains. But, since you insist, here is another site that QUOTES the manufacturer: http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/armourthyroid_ids.htm " ... Most patients require 60 to 120 mg/day. Failure to respond to doses of 180 mg suggests lack of compliance or malabsorption. Maintenance dosages 60 to 120 mg/day usually result in normal serum T4 and T3 levels. " That says if you need more than 3 grains, you aren't taking it properly or you aren't absorbing it. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Nothing wrong at all with Forest's site, at least they are consistent. One day you say 90mg, the next 180mg??? _____ Gracia, You wrote: > > I think 90mg Armour is just too low. > Effective dose is 180--300mg. Then you must know better than the manufacturer themselves. Forest Pharmaceuticals says that 90 mg is the maximum dose. Chuck From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Chuck B Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 3:11 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Low body temps neil whiteaker wrote: > > Please provide a link or exact paste, that is NOT the information I just > read off Forest's web site. What's wrong with Forest's web site? They post their recommended maximum. They ARE the manufacturer. That pretty well documents what I said, that the manufacturer sets the maximum at 3 grains. But, since you insist, here is another site that QUOTES the manufacturer: http://www.rxlist. <http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/armourthyroid_ids.htm> com/cgi/generic/armourthyroid_ids.htm " ... Most patients require 60 to 120 mg/day. Failure to respond to doses of 180 mg suggests lack of compliance or malabsorption. Maintenance dosages 60 to 120 mg/day usually result in normal serum T4 and T3 levels. " That says if you need more than 3 grains, you aren't taking it properly or you aren't absorbing it. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 this is a serious mistake, causing great misery, and when I have time I will contact them about this. maybe it's because allopathic docs do not treat adrenals, who knows. one place that is addressing the infamous undertreatment issue is http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com the owner Janie just published a book. Gracia Nothing wrong at all with Forest's site, at least they are consistent. One day you say 90mg, the next 180mg??? _____ Gracia, You wrote: > > I think 90mg Armour is just too low. > Effective dose is 180--300mg. Then you must know better than the manufacturer themselves. Forest Pharmaceuticals says that 90 mg is the maximum dose. Chuck Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Asthma Triggers How you can identify them. Moderator Central Join and receive produce updates. . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 So he made a mistake.!Are you always perfect? What's the big deal? You know you are not paying for any information you get on this list, and you don't have to take any information as gospel, and then get angry because someone made an honest mistake. Lighten up. Roni neil <neilneil@...> wrote: Nothing wrong at all with Forest's site, at least they are consistent. One day you say 90mg, the next 180mg??? _____ Gracia, You wrote: > > I think 90mg Armour is just too low. > Effective dose is 180--300mg. Then you must know better than the manufacturer themselves. Forest Pharmaceuticals says that 90 mg is the maximum dose. Chuck From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Chuck B Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 3:11 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Low body temps neil whiteaker wrote: > > Please provide a link or exact paste, that is NOT the information I just > read off Forest's web site. What's wrong with Forest's web site? They post their recommended maximum. They ARE the manufacturer. That pretty well documents what I said, that the manufacturer sets the maximum at 3 grains. But, since you insist, here is another site that QUOTES the manufacturer: http://www.rxlist. com/cgi/generic/armourthyroid_ids.htm " ... Most patients require 60 to 120 mg/day. Failure to respond to doses of 180 mg suggests lack of compliance or malabsorption. Maintenance dosages 60 to 120 mg/day usually result in normal serum T4 and T3 levels. " That says if you need more than 3 grains, you aren't taking it properly or you aren't absorbing it. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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