Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae subluxation?

[Guest guest]

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Hypo T can cause weakened muscles and for your muscles to lose tone and strength

and hyper T usually we see smaller muscle size from the increased metabolism

that is " eating " the muscles up, so you can also see loss of strength.

nancie

From: lmasju

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 4:42 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

in turn, cause subluxation? (I was wondering if hypothyroid people

sometimes have a difficult time with keeping their spine alignment, if

the muscles/ligaments aren't holding the vertebrae in place, or if the

muscles spasm, thus fixating the vertebrae) Thanks- Les

[Guest guest]

spasms has to do with magnesium deficiency which is very common today.

http://www.magnesiumforlife.com

Gracia

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I was wondering about this as I have been having problems off and on with my

neck, back of shoulder, fatty part of my upper arm and my hips.. Could this be

due to hypo and is there anything I can do to ease the pain.. I take tylenol 5

or 6 times a day.

Deb

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Woa!!!! That is a lot of Tylenol. We just had a college student at OU die

from taking only 1 more than the recommended pill a day. I wouldn't use it

everyday for a pron;onged period even At your dose.

cw

-- Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

I was wondering about this as I have been having problems off and on with my

neck, back of shoulder, fatty part of my upper arm and my hips.. Could this

be due to hypo and is there anything I can do to ease the pain.. I take

tylenol 5 or 6 times a day.

Deb

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

It is the only thing I can take for pain.. can not take any type of anti

inflamatory products, they make me swell up like a ballon

Deb

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

you should see a pain management specialist because you are at risk for taking

too much Tylenol- medication and it can blow out your liver and kidneys. the

maximum dose per day is 4 grams in 24 hours. either you are taking the regular

strength dose which is 325 mg or you are taking the extra strength which are 500

mg. but, if you are a slow liver metabolizer, then you could damage your kidneys

or liver at a lower dose. how is your liver function?

there are many options out there besides nsaids aka Motrin, Aleve, Celebrex that

can control your pain. acupuncture is very good a controlling pain.

nancie

From: babe61ca

Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 11:43 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

It is the only thing I can take for pain.. can not take any type of anti

inflamatory products, they make me swell up like a ballon

Deb

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I also cannot take any anti-inflammatory, and that includes all the meds

that you listed. I have allergic reactions to all of them. I too take a lot

of Tylenol; a lot of drs are unwilling to prescribe other, possibly more

effective, alternatives, even tho they know the potential risk of taking too

much Tylenol. Les PS: I have tried extended acupunture treatment, from

different drs, and it did nothing for the pain.

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms,

> vertebrae

> subluxation?

>

> Les,

>

> You wrote:

>>

>> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

>> in turn, cause subluxation?

>

> Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

> muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

> particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

>

> Chuck

>

>

[Guest guest]

Deb,

Have you ever heard of a salve called " Tiger Balm " ? I use is for

headaches and muscle pain. I have a nephew who is a power lifter and

he swears by this stuff. It does work for us. You can get it

probably in any drug store. I get it at Walgreens if you have one

where you are. I do not like taking any pills if I don't have to.

This has been a godsend. It comes in a small jar but last a long

time. Make sure that you get the extra strength which has a copper

color to it. Hope this helps.

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , " babe61ca " <babe61ca@...> wrote:

>

> It is the only thing I can take for pain.. can not take any type of

anti inflamatory products, they make me swell up like a ballon

> Deb

> Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms,

vertebrae

> subluxation?

>

> Les,

>

> You wrote:

> >

> > Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that

could,

> > in turn, cause subluxation?

>

> Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

> muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

> particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

>

> Chuck

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I was wondering about this as I have been having problems off and on

with my neck, back of shoulder, fatty part of my upper arm and my

hips.. Could this be due to hypo and is there anything I can do to

ease the pain.. I take tylenol 5 or 6 times a day.

> Deb

Oh yeah!

Try getting sports massage or trigger point therapy. I have Hashi's

and joint/muscle pain. Helps a lot.

BTW, I am a massage therapist for 18 years. I know it works!

[Guest guest]

If you take a lot of Tylenol it's a good idea to take NAC (n acetyl

cysteine) along with it. It's the antidote to Tylenol poisoning that

hospitals use -- google it (as well as SAMe)- you'll find lots of

info on how it can protect your liver.

>

> I also cannot take any anti-inflammatory, and that includes all the

meds

> that you listed. I have allergic reactions to all of them. I too

take a lot

> of Tylenol;

>

>

> > you should see a pain management specialist because you are at

risk for

> > taking too much Tylenol-

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Nancie..

I know this sounds crazy but I don't know hhow my liver is working..

Tha was one of my concerns when my eyes were swelling, whether my liver or

kidneys were acting up but the doctor said it had nothing to do with that.. I

take 2/500mg each time.. I was seeing a pain specialist and tons of other

doctors. Up too last year I was using a walker because they had me on so many

pain meds and neuro drugs that I would mess up anohter joint from not walking

properly.. I have been on vioxx, celebrex, gabapentin, duragesic patches,

canabis spray, and a tons of others in between these.. I can not take arthristis

meds or advil or ibprophen.. I have been to accupuncturists, reflextology,

message therapists and all have adverse effects on me in some way.. My body does

not seem to like anything and now i am begining to feel like it don't like me,

period..

Deb

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Does it get hot or smell.. I am very sensitive to smell and have tried some rubs

that burned my skin...

Deb

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms,

vertebrae

> subluxation?

>

> Les,

>

> You wrote:

> >

> > Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that

could,

> > in turn, cause subluxation?

>

> Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

> muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

> particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

>

> Chuck

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Deb-

what is your diagnosis?

if you are tasking 2 of the 500 mg x 5-6 times a day, then you are overdosing on

the Tylenol and putting your liver and kidneys at risk for failure. what

happened when you has acupuncture?

have you tried bio-feedback? I notices you tried cannabis spray, have you tried

medical marijuana? it does work really well with pain issues, especially nerve

related pain. It has worked for me.

a pain pump may also work well in you. Pain management has come along way and I

just find it inexcusable hat a provider allows a person to remain in pain.

unfortunately, women often do not respond to pain management protocols the same

way as men do. the theories are that it has to do with our hormones and the

neuro-chemical pathways in the brain that are wired differently then in men.

nancie

From: babe61ca

Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:46 AM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Hi Nancie..

I know this sounds crazy but I don't know hhow my liver is working..

Tha was one of my concerns when my eyes were swelling, whether my liver or

kidneys were acting up but the doctor said it had nothing to do with that.. I

take 2/500mg each time.. I was seeing a pain specialist and tons of other

doctors. Up too last year I was using a walker because they had me on so many

pain meds and neuro drugs that I would mess up anohter joint from not walking

properly.. I have been on vioxx, celebrex, gabapentin, duragesic patches,

canabis spray, and a tons of others in between these.. I can not take arthristis

meds or advil or ibprophen.. I have been to accupuncturists, reflextology,

message therapists and all have adverse effects on me in some way.. My body does

not seem to like anything and now i am begining to feel like it don't like me,

period..

Deb

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't say it gets hot but when you first put it on, it does get

warm but then turns cold. Yes, there is a smell. If you are sensitive

it may be a problem for you. It is kind of like menthol or something

like that but that also subsides. Hope you can try it and that it

works for you.

Venizia

> > >

> > > Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that

> could,

> > > in turn, cause subluxation?

> >

> > Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and

proximal

> > muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

> > particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

> >

> > Chuck

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Nancie..

I have a laundry list of diagnosis.. lol

Arthritis, Fibro, gout, degenerative disc, RLS to list a few of the things I

have been diagnosed with..

I have never done bio feedback but it seems when I do accupuncture I get worse.

I can actually feel the needles the whole ime they are in and then I am

miserable for days after it.. I have tried message therapy but my body can not

tolerate any pressure and the pain get worse or moves..

I feel like an idiot most of the time because nothing seems to work for me and

most people think I am just making all this up to get sympathy.. I wish there

was a miracle cure..

I have tried the medical marijuana but it make be sick to my stomach.. I stopped

taking any narcotic type meds because I found it messed with my brain but did

not touch the pain, so I would lay like a zombie but could still feel the

intense pain..

Deb

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Maybe some herbs or Chinese medicine or maybe even accupuncture/pressure can

help. I hate to see you with liver issues.

cw

-- Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

It is the only thing I can take for pain.. can not take any type of anti

inflamatory products, they make me swell up like a ballon

Deb

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Deb,

You wrote:

> ...is there anything I can do to ease the

> pain.. I take tylenol 5 or 6 times a day.

>

If it is due to hypoT, get the proper dose.

I would avoid Tylenol, though. It will destroy your liver.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

another good pain management option is what we call a tens unit. the newer

models have a dual mode that helps with edema and pain. it also helps to improve

the circulation of the injured area. I have one, I use it fot injured joints;

post op pain control; pain control in general for specific joints.

From: babe61ca

Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:46 AM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Hi Nancie..

I know this sounds crazy but I don't know hhow my liver is working..

Tha was one of my concerns when my eyes were swelling, whether my liver or

kidneys were acting up but the doctor said it had nothing to do with that.. I

take 2/500mg each time.. I was seeing a pain specialist and tons of other

doctors. Up too last year I was using a walker because they had me on so many

pain meds and neuro drugs that I would mess up anohter joint from not walking

properly.. I have been on vioxx, celebrex, gabapentin, duragesic patches,

canabis spray, and a tons of others in between these.. I can not take arthristis

meds or advil or ibprophen.. I have been to accupuncturists, reflextology,

message therapists and all have adverse effects on me in some way.. My body does

not seem to like anything and now i am begining to feel like it don't like me,

period..

Deb

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Thank you chuck.. I am working on getting the proper meds now as per lasst

post..

I will take it easy on the tylenol as I had no idea it was that serious but on

my bad days it is all I have to help aleviate the pain in my muscles and neck..

Deb.

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Deb,

You wrote:

> ...is there anything I can do to ease the

> pain.. I take tylenol 5 or 6 times a day.

>

If it is due to hypoT, get the proper dose.

I would avoid Tylenol, though. It will destroy your liver.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Thank you Crystal for the advice, I will look into it, except for accu, as I

have tried it and it made me worse..

Deb..

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Hi Nancie..

Thank you for posting all of this info.. I have checked most of it out.. I have

heard of tens but never thought about it for me.. I will talk to my dr. about

it..

Deb

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae

subluxation?

Les,

You wrote:

>

> Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> in turn, cause subluxation?

Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

What medications are you taking regularly?

>

> Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae subluxation?

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>

>

> Sun Apr 6, 2008 7:21 pm (PDT)

>

> I was wondering about this as I have been having problems off and on

> with my neck, back of shoulder, fatty part of my upper arm and my

> hips.. Could this be due to hypo and is there anything I can do to

> ease the pain.. I take tylenol 5 or 6 times a day.

> Deb

> Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms,

> vertebrae subluxation?

>

> Les,

>

> You wrote:

> >

> > Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> > in turn, cause subluxation?

>

> Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

> muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

> particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

>

> Chuck

[Guest guest]

I am not sure if you were talking to me or not , but I will answer.. lol

I am only taking synthroid in am and sleeping pill in pm.. I stopped taking

nexium yesterday to see how I do..

Deb

Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms,

> vertebrae subluxation?

>

> Les,

>

> You wrote:

> >

> > Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> > in turn, cause subluxation?

>

> Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

> muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

> particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

>

> Chuck

[Guest guest]

I asked because there are some medications [such as statins] that can

make your muscles sore and when they do are a great concern and your

doctor should be notified. I guess this doesn't apply to you...

>

> Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms, vertebrae subluxation?

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> Posted by: " babe61ca " babe61ca@...

>

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> babe61ca <babe61ca>

>

>

> Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:11 pm (PDT)

>

> I am not sure if you were talking to me or not , but I will

> answer.. lol

> I am only taking synthroid in am and sleeping pill in pm.. I stopped

> taking nexium yesterday to see how I do..

> Deb

> Re: hypothyroidism cause muscle spasms,

> > vertebrae subluxation?

> >

> > Les,

> >

> > You wrote:

> > >

> > > Can hypothyroidism cause, or contribute to, muscle spasms, that could,

> > > in turn, cause subluxation?

> >

> > Yes, but the more common problems are with moving joints and proximal

> > muscles. Both hyperT and hypoT can cause joint and muscle problems,

> > particularly if the system is out of balance for an extended time.

> >

> > Chuck