Re:Low Iron and Hypothyroidism

[Guest guest]

According to this report from the Mayo Clinic apparently some people can

get palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness from the

thyroxine sodium [synthroid] if they are anemic. Once the anemia was

treated the medication was tolerated well.

It would seem to me that to some extent these symptoms mimic symptoms of

hyperthyroidism. So if a small dose of Armour or Synthroid produces

these symptoms I guess we should rule out iron deficiency prior to

assuming that we have been pushed over the line from hypothyroidism to

hyperthyroidism. Here's the link, and the quote is below that:

http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID

Quote:

Usual causes of intolerance to thyroxine sodium include coronary artery

disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal insufficiency, and severe

hypothyroidism. We describe 4 patients with iron deficiency anemia and

primary hypothyroidism. After treatment with thyroxine sodium, these

patients developed palpitations and feelings of restlessness, which

necessitated discontinuation of the thyroid hormone. After the anemia

was treated with ferrous sulfate for 4 to 7 weeks, they were able to

tolerate thyroxine sodium therapy. Iron deficiency anemia coexisting

with primary hypothyroidism results in a hyperadrenergic state. In such

patients, we postulate that thyroid hormone administration causes

palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness. Correction of

any existing pronounced anemia in hypothyroid patients who are

intolerant to thyroxine sodium therapy may result in tolerance to this

agent.

Mayo Clin Proc. 2000;75:189-192

TSH=thyroid-stimulating hormone?

Thyroxine sodium, a commonly prescribed medication, is well tolerated by

most patients. However, a small percentage of patients may manifest

intolerance to this agent. Usual causes of intolerance include coronary

artery disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal insufficiency, and

severe hypothyroidism. Rarely, patients may develop allergic reactions,

most commonly due to other ingredients contained in the tablet.

The cardiovascular manifestations of anemia include dyspnea on exertion,

fatigue, and tachycardia. The anemic state is often associated with

increased cardiac output, typically when the hematocrit level is less

than 27%. There is also decreased peripheral vascular resistance with

anemia.1 We recently treated 4 patients with anemia and primary

hypothyroidism who could not tolerate thyroxine sodium (Synthroid) until

the anemia was corrected.

End of quote.

If you put " iron deficiency " + hypothyroidism into Google you'll find

more info.

>

> Low Iron and Hypothyroidism

>

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> bamachoppers <bamachoppers>

>

>

> Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:15 pm (PST)

>

> Hello, I have not been on for a while. I was on 1

> grain of Armour for 1 year, and started feeling so

> very tired all the time. Last time I saw doc about

> three weeks ago she said that my iron was very low 6%

> saturated? What does this mean? She put me on 3 grains

> of Armour and iron! My fingernails are actually

> growing and I feel much better. In 2005 my iron was

> really low. My question is...Does being hypothyroid

> have anything to do with iron deficiency? Thanks

[Guest guest]

I don't think I have anemia, in fact my blood work usually comes back with

RBC,Hgb, Hct

a bit high.

I had trouble with the thyroid and the Afib, at even 1-1/2 grains. When I

switched recently

to taking it in divided doses, the fibrillation is not happening. Also, I am

taking Armour now

and, I do feel better. At first my stomach complained, but I feel better now,

and I just

noticed this morning that the ridges in my nails seem a bit better.

Roni

<res075oh@...> wrote:

According to this report from the Mayo Clinic apparently some people

can

get palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness from the

thyroxine sodium [synthroid] if they are anemic. Once the anemia was

treated the medication was tolerated well.

It would seem to me that to some extent these symptoms mimic symptoms of

hyperthyroidism. So if a small dose of Armour or Synthroid produces

these symptoms I guess we should rule out iron deficiency prior to

assuming that we have been pushed over the line from hypothyroidism to

hyperthyroidism. Here's the link, and the quote is below that:

http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID

Quote:

Usual causes of intolerance to thyroxine sodium include coronary artery

disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal insufficiency, and severe

hypothyroidism. We describe 4 patients with iron deficiency anemia and

primary hypothyroidism. After treatment with thyroxine sodium, these

patients developed palpitations and feelings of restlessness, which

necessitated discontinuation of the thyroid hormone. After the anemia

was treated with ferrous sulfate for 4 to 7 weeks, they were able to

tolerate thyroxine sodium therapy. Iron deficiency anemia coexisting

with primary hypothyroidism results in a hyperadrenergic state. In such

patients, we postulate that thyroid hormone administration causes

palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness. Correction of

any existing pronounced anemia in hypothyroid patients who are

intolerant to thyroxine sodium therapy may result in tolerance to this

agent.

Mayo Clin Proc. 2000;75:189-192

TSH=thyroid-stimulating hormone?

Thyroxine sodium, a commonly prescribed medication, is well tolerated by

most patients. However, a small percentage of patients may manifest

intolerance to this agent. Usual causes of intolerance include coronary

artery disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal insufficiency, and

severe hypothyroidism. Rarely, patients may develop allergic reactions,

most commonly due to other ingredients contained in the tablet.

The cardiovascular manifestations of anemia include dyspnea on exertion,

fatigue, and tachycardia. The anemic state is often associated with

increased cardiac output, typically when the hematocrit level is less

than 27%. There is also decreased peripheral vascular resistance with

anemia.1 We recently treated 4 patients with anemia and primary

hypothyroidism who could not tolerate thyroxine sodium (Synthroid) until

the anemia was corrected.

End of quote.

If you put " iron deficiency " + hypothyroidism into Google you'll find

more info.

>

> Low Iron and Hypothyroidism

>

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " & Tina " bamachoppers@...

>

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>

> bamachoppers <bamachoppers>

>

>

> Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:15 pm (PST)

>

> Hello, I have not been on for a while. I was on 1

> grain of Armour for 1 year, and started feeling so

> very tired all the time. Last time I saw doc about

> three weeks ago she said that my iron was very low 6%

> saturated? What does this mean? She put me on 3 grains

> of Armour and iron! My fingernails are actually

> growing and I feel much better. In 2005 my iron was

> really low. My question is...Does being hypothyroid

> have anything to do with iron deficiency? Thanks

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Wow, Roni!

That is great!

Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote:

I don't think I have anemia, in fact my blood work usually comes back

with RBC,Hgb, Hct

a bit high.

I had trouble with the thyroid and the Afib, at even 1-1/2 grains. When I

switched recently

to taking it in divided doses, the fibrillation is not happening. Also, I am

taking Armour now

and, I do feel better. At first my stomach complained, but I feel better now,

and I just

noticed this morning that the ridges in my nails seem a bit better.

Roni

<res075oh@...> wrote:

According to this report from the Mayo Clinic apparently some people can

get palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness from the

thyroxine sodium [synthroid] if they are anemic. Once the anemia was

treated the medication was tolerated well.

It would seem to me that to some extent these symptoms mimic symptoms of

hyperthyroidism. So if a small dose of Armour or Synthroid produces

these symptoms I guess we should rule out iron deficiency prior to

assuming that we have been pushed over the line from hypothyroidism to

hyperthyroidism. Here's the link, and the quote is below that:

http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID

Quote:

Usual causes of intolerance to thyroxine sodium include coronary artery

disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal insufficiency, and severe

hypothyroidism. We describe 4 patients with iron deficiency anemia and

primary hypothyroidism. After treatment with thyroxine sodium, these

patients developed palpitations and feelings of restlessness, which

necessitated discontinuation of the thyroid hormone. After the anemia

was treated with ferrous sulfate for 4 to 7 weeks, they were able to

tolerate thyroxine sodium therapy. Iron deficiency anemia coexisting

with primary hypothyroidism results in a hyperadrenergic state. In such

patients, we postulate that thyroid hormone administration causes

palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness. Correction of

any existing pronounced anemia in hypothyroid patients who are

intolerant to thyroxine sodium therapy may result in tolerance to this

agent.

Mayo Clin Proc. 2000;75:189-192

TSH=thyroid-stimulating hormone?

Thyroxine sodium, a commonly prescribed medication, is well tolerated by

most patients. However, a small percentage of patients may manifest

intolerance to this agent. Usual causes of intolerance include coronary

artery disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal insufficiency, and

severe hypothyroidism. Rarely, patients may develop allergic reactions,

most commonly due to other ingredients contained in the tablet.

The cardiovascular manifestations of anemia include dyspnea on exertion,

fatigue, and tachycardia. The anemic state is often associated with

increased cardiac output, typically when the hematocrit level is less

than 27%. There is also decreased peripheral vascular resistance with

anemia.1 We recently treated 4 patients with anemia and primary

hypothyroidism who could not tolerate thyroxine sodium (Synthroid) until

the anemia was corrected.

End of quote.

If you put " iron deficiency " + hypothyroidism into Google you'll find

more info.

>

> Low Iron and Hypothyroidism

>

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " & Tina " bamachoppers@...

>

<mailto:bamachoppers@...?Subject=%20Re%3ALow%20Iron%20and%20Hypothyroidism\

>

> bamachoppers <bamachoppers>

>

>

> Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:15 pm (PST)

>

> Hello, I have not been on for a while. I was on 1

> grain of Armour for 1 year, and started feeling so

> very tired all the time. Last time I saw doc about

> three weeks ago she said that my iron was very low 6%

> saturated? What does this mean? She put me on 3 grains

> of Armour and iron! My fingernails are actually

> growing and I feel much better. In 2005 my iron was

> really low. My question is...Does being hypothyroid

> have anything to do with iron deficiency? Thanks

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[Guest guest]

Wow, , thank you for this. I have in the last week started with

the high pulse and getting tired with little excertion. I cut back on

my Armour by a half grain, thinking it was that but reading this I see

a lot of myself here. I will be bringing this up when I see my new

doctor as well......a lot of things to bring up to my new doctor!

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , <res075oh@...> wrote:

>

> According to this report from the Mayo Clinic apparently some people

can

> get palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness from the

> thyroxine sodium [synthroid] if they are anemic. Once the anemia was

> treated the medication was tolerated well.

>

> It would seem to me that to some extent these symptoms mimic

symptoms of

> hyperthyroidism. So if a small dose of Armour or Synthroid produces

> these symptoms I guess we should rule out iron deficiency prior to

> assuming that we have been pushed over the line from hypothyroidism to

> hyperthyroidism. Here's the link, and the quote is below that:

>

> http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID

>

> Quote:

>

> Usual causes of intolerance to thyroxine sodium include coronary artery

> disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal insufficiency, and severe

> hypothyroidism. We describe 4 patients with iron deficiency anemia and

> primary hypothyroidism. After treatment with thyroxine sodium, these

> patients developed palpitations and feelings of restlessness, which

> necessitated discontinuation of the thyroid hormone. After the anemia

> was treated with ferrous sulfate for 4 to 7 weeks, they were able to

> tolerate thyroxine sodium therapy. Iron deficiency anemia coexisting

> with primary hypothyroidism results in a hyperadrenergic state. In such

> patients, we postulate that thyroid hormone administration causes

> palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness. Correction of

> any existing pronounced anemia in hypothyroid patients who are

> intolerant to thyroxine sodium therapy may result in tolerance to this

> agent.

>

> Mayo Clin Proc. 2000;75:189-192

>

> TSH=thyroid-stimulating hormone?

>

> Thyroxine sodium, a commonly prescribed medication, is well

tolerated by

> most patients. However, a small percentage of patients may manifest

> intolerance to this agent. Usual causes of intolerance include coronary

> artery disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal insufficiency, and

> severe hypothyroidism. Rarely, patients may develop allergic reactions,

> most commonly due to other ingredients contained in the tablet.

>

> The cardiovascular manifestations of anemia include dyspnea on

exertion,

> fatigue, and tachycardia. The anemic state is often associated with

> increased cardiac output, typically when the hematocrit level is less

> than 27%. There is also decreased peripheral vascular resistance with

> anemia.1 We recently treated 4 patients with anemia and primary

> hypothyroidism who could not tolerate thyroxine sodium (Synthroid)

until

> the anemia was corrected.

>

> End of quote.

>

> If you put " iron deficiency " + hypothyroidism into Google you'll find

> more info.

>

>

>

> >

> > Low Iron and Hypothyroidism

> >

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> >

> >

[Guest guest]

This came to me in my bulk mail. So I am resending it in case the same

happened to all of you.

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , " venizia1948 " <nelsonck@...> wrote:

>

> Wow, , thank you for this. I have in the last week started with

> the high pulse and getting tired with little excertion. I cut back on

> my Armour by a half grain, thinking it was that but reading this I see

> a lot of myself here. I will be bringing this up when I see my new

> doctor as well......a lot of things to bring up to my new doctor!

>

> Venizia

>

>

>

> -- In hypothyroidism , <res075oh@> wrote:

> >

> > According to this report from the Mayo Clinic apparently some people

> can

> > get palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness from the

> > thyroxine sodium [synthroid] if they are anemic. Once the anemia was

> > treated the medication was tolerated well.

> >

> > It would seem to me that to some extent these symptoms mimic

> symptoms of

> > hyperthyroidism. So if a small dose of Armour or Synthroid produces

> > these symptoms I guess we should rule out iron deficiency prior to

> > assuming that we have been pushed over the line from

hypothyroidism to

> > hyperthyroidism. Here's the link, and the quote is below that:

> >

> > http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID

> >

> > Quote:

> >

> > Usual causes of intolerance to thyroxine sodium include coronary

artery

> > disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal insufficiency, and severe

> > hypothyroidism. We describe 4 patients with iron deficiency anemia

and

> > primary hypothyroidism. After treatment with thyroxine sodium, these

> > patients developed palpitations and feelings of restlessness, which

> > necessitated discontinuation of the thyroid hormone. After the anemia

> > was treated with ferrous sulfate for 4 to 7 weeks, they were able to

> > tolerate thyroxine sodium therapy. Iron deficiency anemia coexisting

> > with primary hypothyroidism results in a hyperadrenergic state. In

such

> > patients, we postulate that thyroid hormone administration causes

> > palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness.

Correction of

> > any existing pronounced anemia in hypothyroid patients who are

> > intolerant to thyroxine sodium therapy may result in tolerance to

this

> > agent.

> >

> > Mayo Clin Proc. 2000;75:189-192

> >

> > TSH=thyroid-stimulating hormone?

> >

> > Thyroxine sodium, a commonly prescribed medication, is well

> tolerated by

> > most patients. However, a small percentage of patients may manifest

> > intolerance to this agent. Usual causes of intolerance include

coronary

> > artery disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal insufficiency, and

> > severe hypothyroidism. Rarely, patients may develop allergic

reactions,

> > most commonly due to other ingredients contained in the tablet.

> >

> > The cardiovascular manifestations of anemia include dyspnea on

> exertion,

> > fatigue, and tachycardia. The anemic state is often associated with

> > increased cardiac output, typically when the hematocrit level is less

> > than 27%. There is also decreased peripheral vascular resistance with

> > anemia.1 We recently treated 4 patients with anemia and primary

> > hypothyroidism who could not tolerate thyroxine sodium (Synthroid)

> until

> > the anemia was corrected.

> >

> > End of quote.

> >

> > If you put " iron deficiency " + hypothyroidism into Google you'll find

> > more info.

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Low Iron and Hypothyroidism

> > >

>

<hypothyroidism/message/35400;_ylc=X3oDMTJxNGRuNmQ\

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> > >

> > >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

But Roni, I'm telling you that this deficiency doesn't show up in the Iron

or Hemog or Hemocrit. It has to be tested for specifically.

I had completely normal iron tests above but was deficient in ferritin.

Dusty

Re: Re:Low Iron and Hypothyroidism

I don't think I have anemia, in fact my blood work usually comes back with

RBC,Hgb, Hct

a bit high.

I had trouble with the thyroid and the Afib, at even 1-1/2 grains. When I

switched recently

to taking it in divided doses, the fibrillation is not happening. Also, I am

taking Armour now

and, I do feel better. At first my stomach complained, but I feel better

now, and I just

noticed this morning that the ridges in my nails seem a bit better.

Roni

<res075ohverizon (DOT) <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net> net> wrote:

According to this report from the Mayo Clinic apparently some people can

get palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness from the

thyroxine sodium [synthroid] if they are anemic. Once the anemia was

treated the medication was tolerated well.

It would seem to me that to some extent these symptoms mimic symptoms of

hyperthyroidism. So if a small dose of Armour or Synthroid produces

these symptoms I guess we should rule out iron deficiency prior to

assuming that we have been pushed over the line from hypothyroidism to

hyperthyroidism. Here's the link, and the quote is below that:

http://www.mayoclin

<http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID>

icproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID

Quote:

Usual causes of intolerance to thyroxine sodium include coronary artery

disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal insufficiency, and severe

hypothyroidism. We describe 4 patients with iron deficiency anemia and

primary hypothyroidism. After treatment with thyroxine sodium, these

patients developed palpitations and feelings of restlessness, which

necessitated discontinuation of the thyroid hormone. After the anemia

was treated with ferrous sulfate for 4 to 7 weeks, they were able to

tolerate thyroxine sodium therapy. Iron deficiency anemia coexisting

with primary hypothyroidism results in a hyperadrenergic state. In such

patients, we postulate that thyroid hormone administration causes

palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness. Correction of

any existing pronounced anemia in hypothyroid patients who are

intolerant to thyroxine sodium therapy may result in tolerance to this

agent.

Mayo Clin Proc. 2000;75:189-192

TSH=thyroid-stimulating hormone?

Thyroxine sodium, a commonly prescribed medication, is well tolerated by

most patients. However, a small percentage of patients may manifest

intolerance to this agent. Usual causes of intolerance include coronary

artery disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal insufficiency, and

severe hypothyroidism. Rarely, patients may develop allergic reactions,

most commonly due to other ingredients contained in the tablet.

The cardiovascular manifestations of anemia include dyspnea on exertion,

fatigue, and tachycardia. The anemic state is often associated with

increased cardiac output, typically when the hematocrit level is less

than 27%. There is also decreased peripheral vascular resistance with

anemia.1 We recently treated 4 patients with anemia and primary

hypothyroidism who could not tolerate thyroxine sodium (Synthroid) until

the anemia was corrected.

End of quote.

If you put " iron deficiency " + hypothyroidism into Google you'll find

more info.

>

> Low Iron and Hypothyroidism

> <http://groups.

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> Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:15 pm (PST)

>

> Hello, I have not been on for a while. I was on 1

> grain of Armour for 1 year, and started feeling so

> very tired all the time. Last time I saw doc about

> three weeks ago she said that my iron was very low 6%

> saturated? What does this mean? She put me on 3 grains

> of Armour and iron! My fingernails are actually

> growing and I feel much better. In 2005 my iron was

> really low. My question is...Does being hypothyroid

> have anything to do with iron deficiency? Thanks

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this can also be adrenal.

I couldn't get beyond 90mg Armouor until I got adrenal meds. Remember docs do

not treat adrenals.

Gracia

Wow, , thank you for this. I have in the last week started with

the high pulse and getting tired with little excertion. I cut back on

my Armour by a half grain, thinking it was that but reading this I see

a lot of myself here. I will be bringing this up when I see my new

doctor as well......a lot of things to bring up to my new doctor!

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , <res075oh@...> wrote:

>

> According to this report from the Mayo Clinic apparently some people

can

> get palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness from the

> thyroxine sodium [synthroid] if they are anemic. Once the anemia was

> treated the medication was tolerated well.

>

>

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Yes, I am also going to ask about adrenals. This particular doctor

treats HypoT " Naturally " is what his office help says. We will find out.

Venizia

- In hypothyroidism , " Gracia " <circe@...> wrote:

>

>

> this can also be adrenal.

> I couldn't get beyond 90mg Armouor until I got adrenal meds.

Remember docs do not treat adrenals.

> Gracia

>

> Wow, , thank you for this. I have in the last week started with

> the high pulse and getting tired with little excertion. I cut back on

> my Armour by a half grain, thinking it was that but reading this I see

> a lot of myself here. I will be bringing this up when I see my new

> doctor as well......a lot of things to bring up to my new doctor!

>

> Venizia

>

> -- In hypothyroidism , <res075oh@> wrote:

> >

> > According to this report from the Mayo Clinic apparently some people

> can

> > get palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of restlessness from

the

> > thyroxine sodium [synthroid] if they are anemic. Once the anemia

was

> > treated the medication was tolerated well.

> >

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Peace,

--- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote:

> But Roni, I'm telling you that this deficiency

> doesn't show up in the Iron

> or Hemog or Hemocrit. It has to be tested for

> specifically.

>

> I had completely normal iron tests above but was

> deficient in ferritin.

>

> Dusty

>

> Re: Re:Low Iron and

> Hypothyroidism

>

>

>

> I don't think I have anemia, in fact my blood work

> usually comes back with

> RBC,Hgb, Hct

> a bit high.

>

> I had trouble with the thyroid and the Afib, at even

> 1-1/2 grains. When I

> switched recently

> to taking it in divided doses, the fibrillation is

> not happening. Also, I am

> taking Armour now

> and, I do feel better. At first my stomach

> complained, but I feel better

> now, and I just

> noticed this morning that the ridges in my nails

> seem a bit better.

>

> Roni

>

> <res075ohverizon (DOT)

> <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net> net> wrote:

> According to this report from the Mayo Clinic

> apparently some people can

> get palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of

> restlessness from the

> thyroxine sodium [synthroid] if they are anemic.

> Once the anemia was

> treated the medication was tolerated well.

>

> It would seem to me that to some extent these

> symptoms mimic symptoms of

> hyperthyroidism. So if a small dose of Armour or

> Synthroid produces

> these symptoms I guess we should rule out iron

> deficiency prior to

> assuming that we have been pushed over the line from

> hypothyroidism to

> hyperthyroidism. Here's the link, and the quote is

> below that:

>

> http://www.mayoclin

>

<http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID>

> icproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID

>

> Quote:

>

> Usual causes of intolerance to thyroxine sodium

> include coronary artery

> disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal

> insufficiency, and severe

> hypothyroidism. We describe 4 patients with iron

> deficiency anemia and

> primary hypothyroidism. After treatment with

> thyroxine sodium, these

> patients developed palpitations and feelings of

> restlessness, which

> necessitated discontinuation of the thyroid hormone.

> After the anemia

> was treated with ferrous sulfate for 4 to 7 weeks,

> they were able to

> tolerate thyroxine sodium therapy. Iron deficiency

> anemia coexisting

> with primary hypothyroidism results in a

> hyperadrenergic state. In such

> patients, we postulate that thyroid hormone

> administration causes

> palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of

> restlessness. Correction of

> any existing pronounced anemia in hypothyroid

> patients who are

> intolerant to thyroxine sodium therapy may result in

> tolerance to this

> agent.

>

> Mayo Clin Proc. 2000;75:189-192

>

> TSH=thyroid-stimulating hormone?

>

> Thyroxine sodium, a commonly prescribed medication,

> is well tolerated by

> most patients. However, a small percentage of

> patients may manifest

> intolerance to this agent. Usual causes of

> intolerance include coronary

> artery disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal

> insufficiency, and

> severe hypothyroidism. Rarely, patients may develop

> allergic reactions,

> most commonly due to other ingredients contained in

> the tablet.

>

> The cardiovascular manifestations of anemia include

> dyspnea on exertion,

> fatigue, and tachycardia. The anemic state is often

> associated with

> increased cardiac output, typically when the

> hematocrit level is less

> than 27%. There is also decreased peripheral

> vascular resistance with

> anemia.1 We recently treated 4 patients with anemia

> and primary

> hypothyroidism who could not tolerate thyroxine

> sodium (Synthroid) until

> the anemia was corrected.

>

> End of quote.

>

> If you put " iron deficiency " + hypothyroidism into

> Google you'll find

> more info.

>

>

>

> >

> > Low Iron and Hypothyroidism

> > <http://groups.

>

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> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " & Tina " bamachoppers@

> <mailto:bamachoppers%40>

>

> > <mailto:bamachoppers@

> <mailto:bamachoppers%40>

>

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> > bamachoppers <http://profiles.

> <bamachoppers>

> /bamachoppers>

> >

> >

> > Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:15 pm (PST)

> >

> > Hello, I have not been on for a while. I was on 1

> > grain of Armour for 1 year, and started feeling so

> > very tired all the time. Last time I saw doc about

> > three weeks ago she said that my iron was very low

> 6%

> > saturated? What does this mean? She put me on 3

> grains

> > of Armour and iron! My fingernails are actually

> > growing and I feel much better. In 2005 my iron

> was

> > really low. My question is...Does being

> hypothyroid

> > have anything to do with iron deficiency? Thanks

>

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Well, with Medicare sometimes you have to go at things in a differnt way. I'll

see what

the tests say, and then talk to my doctor about it.

Roni

Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote:

Ditto, I think?

Peace,

--- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote:

> But Roni, I'm telling you that this deficiency

> doesn't show up in the Iron

> or Hemog or Hemocrit. It has to be tested for

> specifically.

>

> I had completely normal iron tests above but was

> deficient in ferritin.

>

> Dusty

>

> Re: Re:Low Iron and

> Hypothyroidism

>

>

>

> I don't think I have anemia, in fact my blood work

> usually comes back with

> RBC,Hgb, Hct

> a bit high.

>

> I had trouble with the thyroid and the Afib, at even

> 1-1/2 grains. When I

> switched recently

> to taking it in divided doses, the fibrillation is

> not happening. Also, I am

> taking Armour now

> and, I do feel better. At first my stomach

> complained, but I feel better

> now, and I just

> noticed this morning that the ridges in my nails

> seem a bit better.

>

> Roni

>

> <res075ohverizon (DOT)

> <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net> net> wrote:

> According to this report from the Mayo Clinic

> apparently some people can

> get palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of

> restlessness from the

> thyroxine sodium [synthroid] if they are anemic.

> Once the anemia was

> treated the medication was tolerated well.

>

> It would seem to me that to some extent these

> symptoms mimic symptoms of

> hyperthyroidism. So if a small dose of Armour or

> Synthroid produces

> these symptoms I guess we should rule out iron

> deficiency prior to

> assuming that we have been pushed over the line from

> hypothyroidism to

> hyperthyroidism. Here's the link, and the quote is

> below that:

>

> http://www.mayoclin

>

<http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID>

> icproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID

>

> Quote:

>

> Usual causes of intolerance to thyroxine sodium

> include coronary artery

> disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal

> insufficiency, and severe

> hypothyroidism. We describe 4 patients with iron

> deficiency anemia and

> primary hypothyroidism. After treatment with

> thyroxine sodium, these

> patients developed palpitations and feelings of

> restlessness, which

> necessitated discontinuation of the thyroid hormone.

> After the anemia

> was treated with ferrous sulfate for 4 to 7 weeks,

> they were able to

> tolerate thyroxine sodium therapy. Iron deficiency

> anemia coexisting

> with primary hypothyroidism results in a

> hyperadrenergic state. In such

> patients, we postulate that thyroid hormone

> administration causes

> palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of

> restlessness. Correction of

> any existing pronounced anemia in hypothyroid

> patients who are

> intolerant to thyroxine sodium therapy may result in

> tolerance to this

> agent.

>

> Mayo Clin Proc. 2000;75:189-192

>

> TSH=thyroid-stimulating hormone?

>

> Thyroxine sodium, a commonly prescribed medication,

> is well tolerated by

> most patients. However, a small percentage of

> patients may manifest

> intolerance to this agent. Usual causes of

> intolerance include coronary

> artery disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal

> insufficiency, and

> severe hypothyroidism. Rarely, patients may develop

> allergic reactions,

> most commonly due to other ingredients contained in

> the tablet.

>

> The cardiovascular manifestations of anemia include

> dyspnea on exertion,

> fatigue, and tachycardia. The anemic state is often

> associated with

> increased cardiac output, typically when the

> hematocrit level is less

> than 27%. There is also decreased peripheral

> vascular resistance with

> anemia.1 We recently treated 4 patients with anemia

> and primary

> hypothyroidism who could not tolerate thyroxine

> sodium (Synthroid) until

> the anemia was corrected.

>

> End of quote.

>

> If you put " iron deficiency " + hypothyroidism into

> Google you'll find

> more info.

>

>

>

> >

> > Low Iron and Hypothyroidism

> > <http://groups.

>

<hypothyroidism/message/35400;_ylc=X3oDMTJxNGR

>

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>

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>

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> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " & Tina " bamachoppers@

> <mailto:bamachoppers%40>

>

> > <mailto:bamachoppers@

> <mailto:bamachoppers%40>

>

?Subject=%20Re%3ALow%20Iron%20and%20Hypothyroidism>

> > bamachoppers <http://profiles.

> <bamachoppers>

> /bamachoppers>

> >

> >

> > Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:15 pm (PST)

> >

> > Hello, I have not been on for a while. I was on 1

> > grain of Armour for 1 year, and started feeling so

> > very tired all the time. Last time I saw doc about

> > three weeks ago she said that my iron was very low

> 6%

> > saturated? What does this mean? She put me on 3

> grains

> > of Armour and iron! My fingernails are actually

> > growing and I feel much better. In 2005 my iron

> was

> > really low. My question is...Does being

> hypothyroid

> > have anything to do with iron deficiency? Thanks

>

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According to this article low iron does show up in blood tests. Roni

Blood Diseases Iron-Deficiency Anemia What is iron-deficiency anemia?

The most common cause of anemia is iron deficiency. Iron is needed to form

hemoglobin. Iron is mostly stored in the body in the hemoglobin. About 30

percent of iron is also stored as ferritin and hemosiderin in the bone marrow,

spleen, and liver.

What causes iron-deficiency anemia?

Iron-deficiency anemia may be caused by the following:

diets low in iron

Iron is obtained from foods in our diet, however, only 1 mg of iron is absorbed

for every 10 to 20 mg of iron ingested. A person unable to have a balanced

iron-rich diet may suffer from some degree of iron-deficiency anemia.

body changes

An increased iron requirement and increased red blood cell production is

required when the body is going through changes such as growth spurts in

children and adolescents, or during pregnancy and lactation.

gastrointestinal tract abnormalities

Malabsorption of iron is common after some forms of gastrointestinal surgeries.

Most of the iron taken in by foods is absorbed in the upper small intestine. Any

abnormalities in the gastrointestinal (GI) tract could alter iron absorption and

result in iron-deficiency anemia.

blood loss

Loss of blood can cause a decrease of iron and result in iron-deficiency anemia.

Sources of blood loss may include GI bleeding, menstrual bleeding, or injury.

What are the symptoms of iron-deficiency anemia?

The following are the most common symptoms of iron-deficiency anemia. However,

each individual may experience symptoms differently. Symptoms may include:

abnormal paleness or lack of color of the skin

irritability

lack of energy or tiring easily (fatigue)

increased heart rate (tachycardia)

sore or swollen tongue

enlarged spleen

a desire to eat peculiar substances such as dirt or ice (a condition called

pica)

The symptoms of iron-deficiency anemia may resemble other blood conditions or

medical problems. Always consult your physician for a diagnosis.

How is iron-deficiency anemia diagnosed?

Iron-deficiency anemia may be suspected from general findings on a complete

medical history and physical examination, such as complaints of tiring easily,

abnormal paleness or lack of color of the skin, or a fast heartbeat

(tachycardia). Iron-deficiency anemia is usually discovered during a medical

examination through a blood test that measures the amount of hemoglobin (number

of red blood cells) present, and the amount of iron in the blood. In addition to

a complete medical history and physical examination, diagnostic procedures for

iron-deficiency anemia may include the following:

additional blood tests

bone marrow aspiration and biopsy - marrow may be removed by aspiration or a

needle biopsy under local anesthesia. In aspiration biopsy, a fluid specimen is

removed from the bone marrow. In a needle biopsy, marrow cells (not fluid) are

removed. These methods are often used together.

Treatment for iron-deficiency anemia:

Specific treatment for iron-deficiency anemia will be determined by your

physician based on:

your age, overall health, and medical history

extent of the anemia

cause of the anemia

your tolerance for specific medications, procedures, or therapies

expectations for the course of the anemia

your opinion or preference

Treatment may include:

iron-rich diet

Eating a diet with iron-rich foods can help treat iron-deficiency anemia. Good

sources of iron include the following:

meats - beef, pork, lamb, liver, and other organ meats

poultry - chicken, duck, turkey, liver (especially dark meat)

fish - shellfish, including clams, mussels, and oysters, sardines,

anchovies

leafy greens of the cabbage family, such as broccoli, kale, turnip greens,

and collards

legumes, such as lima beans and green peas; dry beans and peas, such as

pinto beans, black-eyed peas, and canned baked beans

yeast-leavened whole-wheat bread and rolls

iron-enriched white bread, pasta, rice, and cereals

iron supplements

Iron supplements can be taken over several months to increase iron levels in the

blood. Iron supplements can cause irritation of the stomach and discoloration of

bowel movements. They should be taken on an empty stomach, or with orange juice,

to increase absorption.

How does the body process iron?

Iron is present in many foods and absorbed into the body through the stomach.

During this process of absorption, oxygen combines with iron and is transported

into the plasma portion of blood by binding to transferri. From there, iron and

transferri are used in the production of hemoglobin (the molecule that

transports oxygen in the blood), stored in the liver, spleen, and bone marrow,

and utilized as needed by all body cells.

The following is a list of foods that are good sources of iron. Always consult

your physician regarding the recommended daily iron requirements for your

particular situation.

Iron-Rich Foods

Quantity

Approximate Iron Content

(milligrams)

Oysters 3 ounces 13.2 Beef liver 3 ounces 7.5 Prune juice 1/2

cup 5.2 Clams 2 ounces 4.2 Walnuts 1/2 cup 3.75 Ground beef 3

ounces 3.0 Chickpeas 1/2 cup 3.0 Bran flakes 1/2 cup 2.8 Pork

roast 3 ounces 2.7 Cashew nuts 1/2 cup 2.65 Shrimp 3 ounces 2.6

Raisins 1/2 cup 2.55 Sardines 3 ounces 2.5 Spinach 1/2 cup 2.4

Lima beans 1/2 cup 2.3 Kidney beans 1/2 cup 2.2 Turkey, dark meat 3

ounces 2.0 Prunes 1/2 cup 1.9 Roast beef 3 ounces 1.8 Green peas

1/2 cup 1.5 Peanuts 1/2 cup 1.5 Potato 1 1.1 Sweet potato 1/2 cup

1.0 Green beans 1/2 cup 1.0 Egg 1 1.0

Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: Ditto, I think?

Peace,

--- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote:

> But Roni, I'm telling you that this deficiency

> doesn't show up in the Iron

> or Hemog or Hemocrit. It has to be tested for

> specifically.

>

> I had completely normal iron tests above but was

> deficient in ferritin.

>

> Dusty

>

> Re: Re:Low Iron and

> Hypothyroidism

>

>

>

> I don't think I have anemia, in fact my blood work

> usually comes back with

> RBC,Hgb, Hct

> a bit high.

>

> I had trouble with the thyroid and the Afib, at even

> 1-1/2 grains. When I

> switched recently

> to taking it in divided doses, the fibrillation is

> not happening. Also, I am

> taking Armour now

> and, I do feel better. At first my stomach

> complained, but I feel better

> now, and I just

> noticed this morning that the ridges in my nails

> seem a bit better.

>

> Roni

>

> <res075ohverizon (DOT)

> <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net> net> wrote:

> According to this report from the Mayo Clinic

> apparently some people can

> get palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of

> restlessness from the

> thyroxine sodium [synthroid] if they are anemic.

> Once the anemia was

> treated the medication was tolerated well.

>

> It would seem to me that to some extent these

> symptoms mimic symptoms of

> hyperthyroidism. So if a small dose of Armour or

> Synthroid produces

> these symptoms I guess we should rule out iron

> deficiency prior to

> assuming that we have been pushed over the line from

> hypothyroidism to

> hyperthyroidism. Here's the link, and the quote is

> below that:

>

> http://www.mayoclin

>

<http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID>

> icproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=1372 & UID

>

> Quote:

>

> Usual causes of intolerance to thyroxine sodium

> include coronary artery

> disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal

> insufficiency, and severe

> hypothyroidism. We describe 4 patients with iron

> deficiency anemia and

> primary hypothyroidism. After treatment with

> thyroxine sodium, these

> patients developed palpitations and feelings of

> restlessness, which

> necessitated discontinuation of the thyroid hormone.

> After the anemia

> was treated with ferrous sulfate for 4 to 7 weeks,

> they were able to

> tolerate thyroxine sodium therapy. Iron deficiency

> anemia coexisting

> with primary hypothyroidism results in a

> hyperadrenergic state. In such

> patients, we postulate that thyroid hormone

> administration causes

> palpitations, nervousness, and feelings of

> restlessness. Correction of

> any existing pronounced anemia in hypothyroid

> patients who are

> intolerant to thyroxine sodium therapy may result in

> tolerance to this

> agent.

>

> Mayo Clin Proc. 2000;75:189-192

>

> TSH=thyroid-stimulating hormone?

>

> Thyroxine sodium, a commonly prescribed medication,

> is well tolerated by

> most patients. However, a small percentage of

> patients may manifest

> intolerance to this agent. Usual causes of

> intolerance include coronary

> artery disease, advanced age, untreated adrenal

> insufficiency, and

> severe hypothyroidism. Rarely, patients may develop

> allergic reactions,

> most commonly due to other ingredients contained in

> the tablet.

>

> The cardiovascular manifestations of anemia include

> dyspnea on exertion,

> fatigue, and tachycardia. The anemic state is often

> associated with

> increased cardiac output, typically when the

> hematocrit level is less

> than 27%. There is also decreased peripheral

> vascular resistance with

> anemia.1 We recently treated 4 patients with anemia

> and primary

> hypothyroidism who could not tolerate thyroxine

> sodium (Synthroid) until

> the anemia was corrected.

>

> End of quote.

>

> If you put " iron deficiency " + hypothyroidism into

> Google you'll find

> more info.

>

>

>

> >

> > Low Iron and Hypothyroidism

> > <http://groups.

>

<hypothyroidism/message/35400;_ylc=X3oDMTJxNGR

>

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> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " & Tina " bamachoppers@

> <mailto:bamachoppers%40>

>

> > <mailto:bamachoppers@

> <mailto:bamachoppers%40>

>

?Subject=%20Re%3ALow%20Iron%20and%20Hypothyroidism>

> > bamachoppers <http://profiles.

> <bamachoppers>

> /bamachoppers>

> >

> >

> > Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:15 pm (PST)

> >

> > Hello, I have not been on for a while. I was on 1

> > grain of Armour for 1 year, and started feeling so

> > very tired all the time. Last time I saw doc about

> > three weeks ago she said that my iron was very low

> 6%

> > saturated? What does this mean? She put me on 3

> grains

> > of Armour and iron! My fingernails are actually

> > growing and I feel much better. In 2005 my iron

> was

> > really low. My question is...Does being

> hypothyroid

> > have anything to do with iron deficiency? Thanks

>

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