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In a message dated 1/16/2004 8:55:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, fskelton@... writes:

I eat red meat, at most, once a week, but I used not eat much meat at all. Adding meat was one of the changes I made when I began to CRON. I seem to "know" when I need to eat it...and when this "knowing" happens...especially when it comes to beef, I eat it. I was on mild chemotherapy for a couple of years and steroids for Lupus/RA and ended up with chronic, but not severe anemia. I have no anemia now.

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Where is the scientific source you can point to that red meat is beneficial?

Please post, if any.

If anything I think it's wise to limit red meat - both for the calories,

fat, and mad cow disease (in the case of beef).

on 1/16/2004 11:41 AM, kimlynette@... at kimlynette@... wrote:

> Uma Thurman recently began to eat red meat and she looks FANTASTIC now....I

> never liked her looks before, but she looks so strong and energetic now. She

> talks about why she changed her diet too...she said it had to do with

> motherhood. She was a pretty outspoken vegan for a long time.

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I must admit that I feel unwell after eating processed beef, though it's

easy to become used to it such that one craves it strongly. I still enjoy a

nice steak every now and again, but really only eat lamb as my main source

of red meat (which is not a very big part of my diet in general).

Red meat is a good source of iron, but so is cocoa, I suppose. I don't

think there's really all that much making it terribly worse than anything

else, but I wouldn't want to base a diet around it...

Cheers,

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 9:47 AM

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] eating red meat

>

>

> Where is the scientific source you can point to that red meat is

> beneficial?

> Please post, if any.

>

> If anything I think it's wise to limit red meat - both for the calories,

> fat, and mad cow disease (in the case of beef).

>

>

>

> on 1/16/2004 11:41 AM, kimlynette@... at kimlynette@... wrote:

>

> > Uma Thurman recently began to eat red meat and she looks

> FANTASTIC now....I

> > never liked her looks before, but she looks so strong and

> energetic now. She

> > talks about why she changed her diet too...she said it had to do with

> > motherhood. She was a pretty outspoken vegan for a long time.

>

>

>

>

>

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I can't quibble over a word like " limit " as I'm not sure precisely what that

means. But if you're going to advise including grain in a balanced diet, I

would certainly put beef on that questionable list.

Perhaps ironic, the cheap imported beef used by fast food chains like

Mac's is often " grass fed " and probably contains a better w3/w6 ratio

than the popular grain fed beef we Americans love to overeat.

I would consider any risk of contracting BSE infinitesimal, and likely to go

even lower as we over react to the recent discovery of two sick cows (1 CA,

1 US). People are actually dying from real threats like the flu, so wash

you're hands. If you feel like eating beef go ahead but as with all

things... practice moderation.

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:47 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] eating red meat

Where is the scientific source you can point to that red meat is beneficial?

Please post, if any.

If anything I think it's wise to limit red meat - both for the calories,

fat, and mad cow disease (in the case of beef).

on 1/16/2004 11:41 AM, kimlynette@... at kimlynette@... wrote:

> Uma Thurman recently began to eat red meat and she looks FANTASTIC

now....I

> never liked her looks before, but she looks so strong and energetic now.

She

> talks about why she changed her diet too...she said it had to do with

> motherhood. She was a pretty outspoken vegan for a long time.

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The key word is moderation. Red meat is known to be harmful to health in

the customary amounts of the SAD. IMHO, we may just see an increase in

disease in the coming years from all the low carb Atkins dieters who have

replaced carbs with lots of red meat.

OTOH, eating red meat occasionally probably confers many benefits such as

B12 and iron - nutrients that vegans can find themselves deficient in.

AFA grains, they are healthy and recommended by Walford.

on 1/16/2004 12:57 PM, john roberts at johnhrob@... wrote:

> I can't quibble over a word like " limit " as I'm not sure precisely what that

> means. But if you're going to advise including grain in a balanced diet, I

> would certainly put beef on that questionable list.

>

> Perhaps ironic, the cheap imported beef used by fast food chains like

> Mac's is often " grass fed " and probably contains a better w3/w6 ratio

> than the popular grain fed beef we Americans love to overeat.

>

> I would consider any risk of contracting BSE infinitesimal, and likely to go

> even lower as we over react to the recent discovery of two sick cows (1 CA,

> 1 US). People are actually dying from real threats like the flu, so wash

> you're hands. If you feel like eating beef go ahead but as with all

> things... practice moderation.

>

> JR

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