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Hi Freecell:

Well it is a free country. But coconut oil is about the one-but-last

oil I would choose to use. It seems that hydrogenated vegetable oils

are the worst of all fats. Then the next worst seem to be the

saturated fat oils.

Of the fat in coconut oil (and it doesn't contain anything else, no

carbohydrate, no protein, no micronutrients listed) 87% of it is

saturated (Source: Bowes & Church's 'Food Values .......').

It seems to be pretty generally accepted that saturated fats increase

the risk of heart disease. As an example you might want to look at

the results of the (huge, highly professional, thirty year) Nurses'

Health Study (Willett - 'Healthy Women Healthy Lives').

In contrast fish and nuts both seem to be quite beneficial and in

most cases contain appreciable amounts of, presumably good, fats. I

emphasize those, and go out of my way to avoid (most of the time)

foods containing appreciable amounts of hydrogenated or saturated

fats.

If you have a serious source for benefits of coconut oil (or for any

harmful effects of fish or nuts) I would much appreciate seeing what

their evidence is.

Thanks.

Rodney.

> I'm new to this group but have been using high quality coconut oil

daily as an anti viral, anti fungal and great source of fatty acids.

is any one using it with foods?

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We recently had a discussion that tomato paste was already " cooked " tomatoes

and all one had to do was add a bit of fat (olive oil) to get the most

lycopene from the tomatoes. See post #

/message/9343

However, are the tomatoes really cooked? I recently purchased some tomato

paste based on that recent discussion; the ingredient label says:

" tomatoes " . Shouldn't it read: " cooked tomatoes " ?

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My understanding is that anything that is canned must be sterile when

the can is sealed, or else the bugs will do their thing in the sealed

can, producing a symptom rarely seen these days ..... a bulging can.

Are tomatoes sterilized any way other than heat?

The point is I am pretty confident the tomatoes have been cooked as

this is probably the simplest method of sterilization.

Rodney.

> We recently had a discussion that tomato paste was already " cooked "

tomatoes

> and all one had to do was add a bit of fat (olive oil) to get the

most

> lycopene from the tomatoes. See post #

> /message/9343

>

> However, are the tomatoes really cooked? I recently purchased some

tomato

> paste based on that recent discussion; the ingredient label says:

> " tomatoes " . Shouldn't it read: " cooked tomatoes " ?

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Hi Freecell:

Regarding my earlier post about coconut oil, I have just been

informed that there is a good deal more to coconut oil than meets the

eye, and a lot more good about it than I am aware of.

I will be trying to check it out in the coming week. If anyone is

able to post more information on it, it would be much appreciated.

If I locate stuff of interest I will provide a link to it.

Thanks for raising the issue.

Rodney.

> I'm new to this group but have been using high quality coconut oil

daily as an anti viral, anti fungal and great source of fatty acids.

is any one using it with foods?

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I recall reading a book by a Enig that offered a glowing endorsement of

coconut for just about everything.... calmer minds would point out that it's

still full of saturated fat.

Probably good to include in a varied diet, but as with all things

moderation.

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@...]

Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 8:27 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Tomato Paste

Hi Freecell:

Regarding my earlier post about coconut oil, I have just been

informed that there is a good deal more to coconut oil than meets the

eye, and a lot more good about it than I am aware of.

I will be trying to check it out in the coming week. If anyone is

able to post more information on it, it would be much appreciated.

If I locate stuff of interest I will provide a link to it.

Thanks for raising the issue.

Rodney.

> I'm new to this group but have been using high quality coconut oil

daily as an anti viral, anti fungal and great source of fatty acids.

is any one using it with foods?

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How do they eliminate 3/4 of the mass if not by cooking?

Brad Forgy

----- Original Message -----

From: Francesca Skelton

support group

Sent: 1/4/2004 5:13:36 PM

Subject: [ ] tomato paste

We recently had a discussion that tomato paste was already "cooked" tomatoesand all one had to do was add a bit of fat (olive oil) to get the mostlycopene from the tomatoes. See post # /message/9343However, are the tomatoes really cooked? I recently purchased some tomatopaste based on that recent discussion; the ingredient label says:"tomatoes". Shouldn't it read: "cooked tomatoes"?

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So tomato paste is bad? I made a lacto-fermented ketchup by adapting

the recipe in Nourishing Traditions but I used organic tomato paste.

And if tomato paste is moldy, what about whole canned (organic) tomatoes?

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> So tomato paste is bad? I made a lacto-fermented ketchup by adapting

> the recipe in Nourishing Traditions but I used organic tomato paste.

> And if tomato paste is moldy, what about whole canned (organic)

tomatoes?

==>Maybe the organic tomato paste is okay if you are not sensitive to

molds. Whole canned unpasteurized organic tomatoes is okay, however

most canned goods do tend to contain more molds.

Bee

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> I'm wanting to make some chili, stews, etc from the recipe section but I have

no idea how to make tomato paste. Is there a simple way of making enough tomato

paste for the recipe rather than getting like 24 tomatos and using equipment

that I don't have? I don't see myself making that much tomato paste and I don't

need that much.

+++Hi . I don't know of any way to make tomato paste without equipment.

You can make chili and stew recipes without tomato paste - here's some:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/menu7_3.php

Also go to this page and use your browser's Edit, Find on this page function to

find other chili and stew recipes, i.e. chicken, turkey, etc.

Bee

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