Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 I would hesitate to use the grapefruit juice because it either skews the effects of other medications and substances, or promotes a real reaction. Roni Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: grapefruit juice, cucumbers and watermelon juice are also good diuretics and asparagus also will do the trick. nancie /Painful breasts I would advise against progesterone if you are a post menopausal woman. Progsterone/Progestins are the reason the Women's Health Iniative on combined estrogens and progestins was cancelled, due to its contributing to breast cancer increases. The estrogen alone study continued because it did not increase the risk of breast cancer. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members<hypothyroidism/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcGdydn\ A2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm\ 1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTIwMDM1ODYyOA--<hypothyroidism/memb\ ers;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcGdydnA2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTE\ wODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTIwMDM1ODYyOA-->> Visit Your Group <hypothyroidism;_ylc=X3oDMTJkbjdqMWk5BF9TAzk3MzU5N\ zE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxM\ jAwMzU4NjI4<hypothyroidism;_ylc=X3oDMTJkbjdqMWk5BF\ 9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocA\ RzdGltZQMxMjAwMzU4NjI4>> Health Looking for Love?<http://us.ard./SIG=12m6vi1a3/M=493064.12016303.12445695.9706571/D\ =grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1200365828/A=5008808/R=0/SIG=10q26t77l/*h\ ttp://health./<http://us.ard./SIG=12m6vi1a3/M=493064.12016303.\ 12445695.9706571/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1200365828/A=5008808/R=\ 0/SIG=10q26t77l/*http://health./>> Find relationship advice and answers. Sitebuilder Build a web site<http://us.ard./SIG=12m5h54ok/M=493064.12016255.124456628674578/D=g\ rphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1200365828/A=4025304/R=0/SIG=12uhb64pb/*htt\ p://us.rd./evt=44092/*http://smallbusiness./webhosting/sitebui\ lding.php<http://us.ard./SIG=12m5h54ok/M=493064.12016255.12445662867457\ 8/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1200365828/A=4025304/R=0/SIG=12uhb64pb\ /*http://us.rd./evt=44092/*http://smallbusiness./webhosting/si\ tebuilding.php>> quickly & easily with Sitebuilder. Parenting Zone<http://us.ard./SIG=12m63gngl/M=493064.12016283.124456878674578/D=g\ rphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1200365828/A=5045819/R=0/SIG=11gsqr691/*htt\ p://advision.webevents./parenting/<http://us.ard./SIG=12m63gng\ l/M=493064.12016283.124456878674578/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1200\ 365828/A=5045819/R=0/SIG=11gsqr691/*http://advision.webevents./parentin\ g/>> Share experiences with other parents. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Hi Nancie, I was able to get the link. But last night, I couldn't send emails out. Could it be ? Hugs, Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: I have tried that link 6 times and it won't go through nancie Re: /Painful breasts you think there should be a study to see if the hormones which are natural to our own bodies are dangerous? I wonder who would fund that one? http://www.womensinternational.com<http://www.womensinternational.com/> Gracia progestin's are the name of THE CLASS of hormones of which premarin, provera and depo-provera are included. PROGESTERONE is the name of the hormone that is our bodies and also the chemical structure of the hormone. when we studied progesterone in the study we used the class of drugs called progestin's because they are molecularly and CHEMICALLY identical to progesterone. AND they are the most widely used hormone replacements. the authors of the study wanted to see what these drugs would do since they ARE prescribed over 90% of the time. the study DID NOT address bio-identicals. I agree that they should do a study that included bio-identicals, so we can see if they are any risks associated with them. BUT right NOW we are in the dark as far as the long term risks with using bio-identicals in breast cancer and ovarian cancer and especially if one uses more then the recommended doses. nancie ----- Original Message ----- progestins are frankenstein hormones, chemically altered to be patented. progesterone cannot be patented last time I looked. progesterone is safe and bioidentical, progestin is not. I am not a medical provider, I am a health care consumer. Gracia .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Acording to you, big Pharma would. After all, Progesterone (bio) meds are purchased at Pharmacy, i.e. Prometrium. Dusty Re: /Painful breasts I have tried that link 6 times and it won't go through nancie Re: /Painful breasts you think there should be a study to see if the hormones which are natural to our own bodies are dangerous? I wonder who would fund that one? http://www.womensin <http://www.womensinternational.com> ternational.com<http://www.womensin <http://www.womensinternational.com/> ternational.com/> Gracia progestin's are the name of THE CLASS of hormones of which premarin, provera and depo-provera are included. PROGESTERONE is the name of the hormone that is our bodies and also the chemical structure of the hormone. when we studied progesterone in the study we used the class of drugs called progestin's because they are molecularly and CHEMICALLY identical to progesterone. AND they are the most widely used hormone replacements. the authors of the study wanted to see what these drugs would do since they ARE prescribed over 90% of the time. the study DID NOT address bio-identicals. I agree that they should do a study that included bio-identicals, so we can see if they are any risks associated with them. BUT right NOW we are in the dark as far as the long term risks with using bio-identicals in breast cancer and ovarian cancer and especially if one uses more then the recommended doses. nancie ----- Original Message ----- progestins are frankenstein hormones, chemically altered to be patented. progesterone cannot be patented last time I looked. progesterone is safe and bioidentical, progestin is not. I am not a medical provider, I am a health care consumer. Gracia .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 dusty- who were you responding to? me or gracia? nancie Re: /Painful breasts you think there should be a study to see if the hormones which are natural to our own bodies are dangerous? I wonder who would fund that one? http://www.womensin<http://www.womensin/> <http://www.womensinternational.com<http://www.womensinternational.com/>> ternational.com<http://www.womensin<http://www.womensin/> <http://www.womensinternational.com/<http://www.womensinternational.com/>> ternational.com/> Gracia progestin's are the name of THE CLASS of hormones of which premarin, provera and depo-provera are included. PROGESTERONE is the name of the hormone that is our bodies and also the chemical structure of the hormone. when we studied progesterone in the study we used the class of drugs called progestin's because they are molecularly and CHEMICALLY identical to progesterone. AND they are the most widely used hormone replacements. the authors of the study wanted to see what these drugs would do since they ARE prescribed over 90% of the time. the study DID NOT address bio-identicals. I agree that they should do a study that included bio-identicals, so we can see if they are any risks associated with them. BUT right NOW we are in the dark as far as the long term risks with using bio-identicals in breast cancer and ovarian cancer and especially if one uses more then the recommended doses. nancie ----- Original Message ----- progestins are frankenstein hormones, chemically altered to be patented. progesterone cannot be patented last time I looked. progesterone is safe and bioidentical, progestin is not. I am not a medical provider, I am a health care consumer. Gracia . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 hmm maybe- my computer/msn " connected to the site' but the page kept coming up blank, no matter how I tried to connect.... nancie Re: /Painful breasts you think there should be a study to see if the hormones which are natural to our own bodies are dangerous? I wonder who would fund that one? http://www.womensinternational.com<http://www.womensinternational.com/><http://w\ ww.womensinternational.com/<http://www.womensinternational.com/>> Gracia progestin's are the name of THE CLASS of hormones of which premarin, provera and depo-provera are included. PROGESTERONE is the name of the hormone that is our bodies and also the chemical structure of the hormone. when we studied progesterone in the study we used the class of drugs called progestin's because they are molecularly and CHEMICALLY identical to progesterone. AND they are the most widely used hormone replacements. the authors of the study wanted to see what these drugs would do since they ARE prescribed over 90% of the time. the study DID NOT address bio-identicals. I agree that they should do a study that included bio-identicals, so we can see if they are any risks associated with them. BUT right NOW we are in the dark as far as the long term risks with using bio-identicals in breast cancer and ovarian cancer and especially if one uses more then the recommended doses. nancie ----- Original Message ----- progestins are frankenstein hormones, chemically altered to be patented. progesterone cannot be patented last time I looked. progesterone is safe and bioidentical, progestin is not. I am not a medical provider, I am a health care consumer. Gracia . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 ok I just got through. Re: /Painful breasts you think there should be a study to see if the hormones which are natural to our own bodies are dangerous? I wonder who would fund that one? http://www.womensinternational.com<http://www.womensinternational.com/><http://w\ ww.womensinternational.com/<http://www.womensinternational.com/>> Gracia progestin's are the name of THE CLASS of hormones of which premarin, provera and depo-provera are included. PROGESTERONE is the name of the hormone that is our bodies and also the chemical structure of the hormone. when we studied progesterone in the study we used the class of drugs called progestin's because they are molecularly and CHEMICALLY identical to progesterone. AND they are the most widely used hormone replacements. the authors of the study wanted to see what these drugs would do since they ARE prescribed over 90% of the time. the study DID NOT address bio-identicals. I agree that they should do a study that included bio-identicals, so we can see if they are any risks associated with them. BUT right NOW we are in the dark as far as the long term risks with using bio-identicals in breast cancer and ovarian cancer and especially if one uses more then the recommended doses. nancie ----- Original Message ----- progestins are frankenstein hormones, chemically altered to be patented. progesterone cannot be patented last time I looked. progesterone is safe and bioidentical, progestin is not. I am not a medical provider, I am a health care consumer. Gracia . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Nancie this is a response to gracia's question " you think there should be a study to see if the hormones which are natural to our own bodies are dangerous? I wonder who would fund that one? " Dusty Re: /Painful breasts dusty- who were you responding to? me or gracia? nancie Re: /Painful breasts you think there should be a study to see if the hormones which are natural to our own bodies are dangerous? I wonder who would fund that one? http://www.womensin<http://www.womensin <http://www.womensin/> /> <http://www.womensin <http://www.womensinternational.com> ternational.com<http://www.womensin <http://www.womensinternational.com/> ternational.com/>> ternational.com<http://www.womensin<http://www.womensin <http://www.womensin/> /> <http://www.womensin <http://www.womensinternational.com/> ternational.com/<http://www.womensin <http://www.womensinternational.com/> ternational.com/>> ternational.com/> Gracia progestin's are the name of THE CLASS of hormones of which premarin, provera and depo-provera are included. PROGESTERONE is the name of the hormone that is our bodies and also the chemical structure of the hormone. when we studied progesterone in the study we used the class of drugs called progestin's because they are molecularly and CHEMICALLY identical to progesterone. AND they are the most widely used hormone replacements. the authors of the study wanted to see what these drugs would do since they ARE prescribed over 90% of the time. the study DID NOT address bio-identicals. I agree that they should do a study that included bio-identicals, so we can see if they are any risks associated with them. BUT right NOW we are in the dark as far as the long term risks with using bio-identicals in breast cancer and ovarian cancer and especially if one uses more then the recommended doses. nancie ----- Original Message ----- progestins are frankenstein hormones, chemically altered to be patented. progesterone cannot be patented last time I looked. progesterone is safe and bioidentical, progestin is not. I am not a medical provider, I am a health care consumer. Gracia .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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