Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Yikes, I CANNOT imagine not eating shellfish. I adore steamed bluecrab.... can take or leave shrimp. Dusty Re: Re: Low Iron and Hypothyroidism dusty- that is how I found out I had acquired an hypersensitivity to iodine after being exposed to it over and over again through various forms; I had a CT scan with contrast dye and went into respiratory arrest in the scanner. I also have an acquired reaction to betadine which gives me a 3rd degree burn; and of course shell fish and seaweed will cause me to have a full blown hypersensitivity reaction. which is a shame because I miss eating shellfish. xo nancie Re: Low Iron and Hypothyroidism Ok, answer this about people that actually 'are' allergic to inorganic iodine. Iodine in the body is necessary to be alive, and those people have iodine in their bodies (or they wouldn't be alive), so how come they don't react to the iodine in their bodies, organs, brain, eyes, skin, etc? > > your lack of medical knowledge is showing garcia BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE can take iodine. people who are allergic to any form of iodine can not take it because they can get an severe allergic reaction that could kill them! I know because I am one of them. > one of my docs, prudence hall who has extensive training in natural medicine as well as allopathic medicine concurs about this. she also knows that NOT all people can be on hormone replacement therapy, take lupus patients- it is contraindicated for people who have lupus/sle to take any hormone replacement because they will flare the disease process, just like people who have breast cancer and uterine cancer- you NEVER give them hormone replacement because the hormones drive the cancer. > women who are not in menopause and kids CAN NOT take sex hormone replacement therapy! otherwise you are giving them something that can trigger cancer and other diseases. > I never said good medical care was about using monotherapy. DO NOT PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH. > I was speaking about armour specifically. > like I have said what works for you is great- but it may not work for every other person in the universe. > I am very happy that what you take helps you- I just can't understand why you can't accept that not everyone is like you. even sam, takes more armour than you do- because she needs it. if you feel that we are all the same [gggg] then why don't you take 11 grains of armour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Hi Nancie, Here is what Dr. Dach says about Dr. Weil....Neil Dr. Weil, AARP, and Human Growth Hormone, HGH by Dach MD Posted by Dach MD Dr. Weil, AARP, and Human Growth Hormone, HGH by Dach MD Dr. Weil Says Human Growth Hormone is " Snake Oil " Perhaps you have seen the Weil article entitled, " Dr. Debunker: The Truth About the Fountain of Youth " in the June 2007 AARP magazine which gives retired folks advice about anti-aging and longevity.(1) I have considerable respect for Dr. Weil and have followed his work over the years. However, after reading his article, my opinion of Dr. Weil has changed. This article is such poor quality and contains so many factual errors and errors of omission, that it raises serious questions about the author. BioIdentical Hormones Dr. Weil the Debunker omits bioidentical estrogen and progesterone for post menopausal women, and the many health benefits such as reduction in heart disease in women. (1A) He also omits testosterone for males with declining testosterone levels. This story was again told by golf star Micheel in Golf Digest.(2) Dr. Debunker omits the multiple medical reports showing that males with low testosterone have a higher mortality.(3)(4) Dr. Debunker also omits low thyroid evaluation, Vitamin B12 levels, vitamin D levels, Vitamin C Supplementation, and Iodine Supplementation, all of which are important for health, well being and longevity for the over 50.(5) Rather than discussing the above important topics, Dr. Debunker concentrates on Human Growth Hormone (HGH) for adults, warning us that HGH is a form of " snake oil " treatment. Perhaps Dr. Weil could explain the logic of how a patented, FDA approved pharmaceutical drug with proven efficacy can be called " snake oil " .(6)(7)(8) The Dr. Debunker article fails to tell us that our hormone levels decline dramatically after age 50, and " by the age of 60 most adults have Growth Hormone levels indistinguishable from those of hypopituitary patients with organic lesions in the pituitary gland. " (9) The Dr. Debunker article gives the mistaken impression there is only one single medical publication (Rudman NEJM 1990) which reports the beneficial effects of growth hormone on the physical parameters of aging.(10)(11) Volumes of Research on Growth Hormone Over Many Years In reality there has been over 20 years of research with thousands of medical studies showing benefits from Growth Hormone therapy, and extremely high safety profile. A few of these many medical research studies are listed on the Ron Rothenberg MD Web Site.(12) Benefits of (HGH) growth hormone include improved body composition, increased muscle and less body fat, improved bone density, improved wound healing, improved cognitive function, and improved sense of well being. Burn victims heal faster with growth hormone and have increased muscle protein synthesis. Patients with Crohn's disease and short bowel syndrome show improved nutritional status with HGH treatment. Cardiac cachexia patients gain weight, get well and leave the hospital. There are studies showing improvement in cognitive function, and improvement in quality of life with HGH. (13)(14)(15)(16)(17)(18)(19)(20)(21)(22) (23)(24)(25)(26)(27) Image at left: human growth hormone protein structure courtesy of wikipedia, created with the data set from Protein Data Bank and the free program Rasmol. Dr. Debunker mistakenly assumes human growth hormone is given to aging adults to lengthen their years. This couldn't be farther from the truth, and is a straw man argument. This is not the intended use of human growth hormone by anti-aging docs like Ron Rothenberg, MD, a pioneer in Anti-Aging Medicine and Board Certified by the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine. Dr. Rothenberg gives the Growth Hormone lectures at the medical meetings, and he treats hundreds of patients with growth hormone therapy at the California Healthspan Institute.(28) Ron Rothenberg MD Left Image: Courtesy of Ron Rothenberg MD and WorldHealth.net Dr. Rothenberg's goal is not to lengthen lifespan; rather it is to improve the QUALITY of our lifespan. I spoke with Dr. Rothenberg after his lecture at the medical meeting. He is outgoing and personable fellow who appears younger than his stated age of 62, and he continues to be an avid California surfer with videos of himself surfing on his web site.(29) Here is what Dr. Ron Rothenberg says about human growth hormone therapy for adult deficiency: " As anti-aging physicians, our goal is to help our patients stay strong and vigorous as long as possible without gradual and protracted deterioration. We know Growth Hormone Replacement Therapy is a proven defense against frailty, and when added to lifestyle, this is our chance to stay stronger and more functional. If we were to stay perfect, why intervene? But since we don't, this is one way to maintain function while we await the genetic and biochemical therapies that will be available in the near future. These patients are happier and healthier. Just ask one. " (30) This is good advice for Dr. Weil the Debunker, who should actually talk to the people over 50 who benefit from human growth hormone therapy as part of a comprehensive wellness program. Growth Hormone is Legal Dr. Weil the Debunker also makes the grievous factual error in stating that human growth hormone therapy for adult deficiency is illegal. Again this couldn't be farther from the truth. If this were true, the 15,000 members of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, many of whom are board certified MD's, would already be in jail, a scenario, so ludicrous as to be laughable. In reality, well trained anti-aging physicians perform a complete medical workup including history, physical examination and extensive laboratory testing which includes tests for growth hormone levels (such as IGF-1), and then treat for the FDA approved indication of Adult Growth Hormone Deficiency.(33) In addition, there is follow up with serial blood testing to ensure safety. Contrary to what Dr. Weil says, I assure you this is VERY legal. Opposition by Mainstream Medicine It is certainly true that mainstream medicine differs from the position of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine on the use human growth hormone for aging adults, and this is for political reasons. Growth hormone is expensive, and would bankrupt the health insurance industry and Medicare program. It is also certainly true that human growth hormone is an FDA approved pharmaceutical which has been proven effective, and therefore " snake oil " is hardly an appropriate label. Beware High Presure Sales Operations on the Internet Of course there are problems. There are hordes of disreputable boiler room operations selling Growth Hormone on the internet without adequate medical supervision. The buyer should beware of these types of operations, beware of purchasing counterfeit drugs, and avoid purchasing Growth Hormone or any other prescription drugs over the phone from strangers. It is highly recommended that you have a close personal relationship with a knowledgeable physician with the proper training to oversee the program and monitor for adverse side effects. (31) To find such a physician, use the Doctor's Directory at the American Academy.(32) For more information on HGH human growth hormone see my web site.(33) Dach MD 4700 Sheridan Suite T Hollywood Fl 33021 954-983-1443 www.jeffreydach.com <http://www.jeffreydach.com> www.drdach.com <http://www.drdach.com> www.naturalmedicine101.com <http://www.naturalmedicine101.com> www.truemedmd.com <http://www.truemedmd.com> References (1) http://www.aarpmagazine.org/health/d..._of_youth.html <http://www.aarpmagazine.org/health/debunker_fountain_of_youth.html> Dr. Debunker, The Truth About the Fountain of Youth, By Weil, M.D., May & June 2007, AARP Magazine How to live a healthy, vigorous—and long—life. No gimmicks (1A) http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/356/25/2591 Estrogen Therapy and Coronary-Artery Calcification NEJM Volume 356:2591-2602 June 21, 2007 Number 25 JoAnn E. Manson, M.D., et al. This study shows less coronary artery calcifications in wiomen on estrogen. (2) http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/pgach...ory?id=2548821 <http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/pgachampionship06/news/story?id=2548821> A hero's role that fit him to a T By Tom Callahan Golf Digest. A diagnosis of low testosterone helped Micheel turn around his life. " I wasn't myself, " he says. By Tom Callahan Golf Digest August 2006 (3) archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/166/15/1660 Low Serum Testosterone and Mortality in Male Veterans Molly M. Shores, MD; Alvin M. Matsumoto, MD; L. Sloan, MD; R. Kivlahan, PhD. Arch Intern Med. 2006;166:1660-1665. (4) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...060501811.html <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/05/AR2007060501811\ ..html> Low Testosterone Levels Linked to Increased Mortality By Perkel HealthDay Reporter Wednesday, June 6, 2007 (HealthDay News) -- Men 50 and older with low levels of testosterone may be at higher risk of dying within 20 years than men with higher levels of the male hormone, a new study suggests. (5) http://www.jeffreydach.com/ Dach MD, Blog site. (6) http://www.google.com/patents?id=ylE...growth+hormone <http://www.google.com/patents?id=ylEoAAAAEBAJ & printsec=abstract & zoom=4 & dq=human\ +growth+hormone> Growth Hormone Patent (7) http://www.fda.gov/cder/handbook/develop.htm FDA New Drug Development Process:Steps from Test Tube to New Drug Application Review (8) http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...wth-drug_x.htm <http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-05-31-growth-drug_x.htm> USA TODAY: FDA approves growth hormone WASHINGTON (AP) (9) content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion=ShowAbstract & ArtikelNr=23531 & A usgabe=225980 & ProduktNr=224036 Growth Hormone - Hormone Replacement for the Somatopause? Savine, Sönksen Department of Medicine, St ' Hospital, London, UK, Growth Hormone Research, Vol. 53, Suppl. 3, 2000 (10) http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/323/1/1 NEJM, Volume 323:1-6 July 5, 1990 Number 1. Effects of human growth hormone in men over 60 years old. D Rudman, AG Feller, HS Nagraj, GA Gergans, PY Lalitha, AF Goldberg, RA Schlenker, L Cohn, IW Rudman, Abstract (11) http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/323/1/1 NEJM, Volume 323:1-6 July 5, 1990 Number 1. Effects of human growth hormone in men over 60 years old. D Rudman, AG Feller, HS Nagraj, GA Gergans, PY Lalitha, AF Goldberg, RA Schlenker, L Cohn, IW Rudman Full article (12) http://ehealthspan.com/references/index.html Listing of Published Research on Human Growth Hormone, California Healthspan Institute Ron Rothenberg MD (13) http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pag...82 & pageindex=1 <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pagerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=1234282 & p\ ageindex=1> Recombinant human growth hormone accelerates wound healing in children with large cutaneous burns. D A Gilpin, R E Barrow, R L Rutan, L Broemeling, and D N Herndon Shriners Burns Institute, Galveston, Texas. Ann Surg. 1994 July; 220(1): 19–24. (14) http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art... & artid=1479605 <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=147960\ 5> Beneficial Effects of Extended Growth Hormone Treatment After Hospital Discharge in Pediatric Burn Patients. Rene Przkora, MD, PhD, et al. Ann Surg. 2006 June; 243(6): 796–803. (15) http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art... & artid=1493563 <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=149356\ 3> Metabolic effects of recombinant human growth hormone in patients receiving parenteral nutrition. T R Ziegler, L S Young, J M Manson, and D W Wilmore Department of Surgery, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts. Ann Surg. 1988 July; 208(1): 6–16. (16) http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art... & artid=1664832 <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=166483\ 2> The effect of recombinant human growth hormone and resistance training on IGF-I mRNA expression in the muscles of elderly men M Hameed, K H W Lange, J L Andersen, P Schjerling, M Kjaer, S D R Harridge, and G Goldspink. J Physiol. 2004 February 15; 555(Pt 1): 231–240. (17) http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art... & artid=1409868 <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=140986\ 8> Growth Hormone, Glutamine, and an Optimal Diet Reduces Parenteral Nutrition in Patients With Short Bowel Syndrome A Prospective, Randomized, Placebo-Controlled, Double-Blind Clinical Trial. Theresa A. Byrne et al. Ann Surg. 2005 November; 242(5): 655–661. (18) http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art... & artid=1773673 <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=177367\ 3> Non-alcoholic steatohepatitis and hepatic steatosis in patients with adult onset growth hormone deficiency. T Ichikawa et al. Gut. 2003 June; 52(6): 914. (19) http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art... & artid=1191645 <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=119164\ 5> Perioperative growth hormone treatment and functional outcome after major abdominal surgery: a randomized, double-blind, controlled study. P Kissmeyer-Nielsen et al, Ann Surg. 1999 February; 229(2): 298–302. (20) http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...rtype=abstract <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=150111\ 9 & rendertype=abstract> The Role of Anabolic Hormones for Wound Healing in Catabolic States. H. Demling, MD et al. J Burns Wounds. 2005; 4: e2. (21) http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pag...03 & pageindex=1 <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pagerender.fcgi?artid=1669103 & pageindex=1> Cardiac cachexia treated with HGH. P H Sönksen, F Salomon, R Cuneo, M Umpleby, and S Bowes. BMJ. 1991 March 23; 302(6778): 725–726. (22) http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...z & artid=507772 <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=507772\ > Effects of recombinant human growth hormone on muscle protein turnover in malnourished hemodialysis patients. G Garibotto et al. J Clin Invest. 1997 January 1; 99(1): 97–105. (23) http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art... & artid=1493563 <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=149356\ 3> Metabolic effects of recombinant human growth hormone in patients receiving parenteral nutrition.T R Ziegler et al. Ann Surg. 1988 July; 208(1): 6–16. (24) http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art... & artid=1119467 <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=111946\ 7> BMJ. 2001 January 27; 322(7280): 203. 2001, BMJ Science commentary Insulin-like growth factor and cognitive function Abi Berger, science editor BMJ (25) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10984257 Growth hormone, insulin-like growth factor I and cognitive function in adults.van Dam PS et al.Growth Horm IGF Res. 2000 Apr;10 Suppl B:S69-73. (26) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15094076 Insulin-like growth factor-I, cognition and brain aging. Van Dam PS et al. Eur J Pharmacol. 2004 Apr 19;490(1-3):87-95. (27) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15478038 The role of the somatotropic system in cognition and other cerebral functions. Creyghton WM, van Dam PS et al. Semin Vasc Med. 2004 May;4(2):167-72. (28) http://ehealthspan.com/treatment/bios.html The Doctor's Biography Ron Rothenberg, MD, FACEP , Board Certified American Board of Anti-Aging Medicine (29) http://ehealthspan.com/treatment/surf.html Short clips Dr. Rothenberg surfing at a " secret spot " south of the border. (30) http://ehealthspan.com/treatment/gh-therapy.html Adult Growth Hormone Therapy - Clinical Perspectives. Quality of Life Improves with GH Therapy By Ron Rothenberg, MD (31) http://www.drdach.com/wst_page16.html Dach MD Web Site Human Growth Hormone Page (32) http://www.worldhealth.net/directory/dach_jeffrey1 Doctors Directory American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine A4M (33) http://www.cenegenicsfoundation.org/...H_Rx_on_LH.pdf <http://www.cenegenicsfoundation.org/library/Guidelines_hGH_Rx_on_LH.pdf> Guidelines for the Diagnosis and Treatment of Adult Growth Hormone Deficiency Nancie Barnett wrote: > > Neil- > Hmm. I disagree with you on Dr. Weil. I have studied with him and he > is NOT > big pharmaca- not even close. > He does not advocate taking meds over the natural medicine approach. > If you > really know him and have studied with him as I have- you would know that > whatever source you have is full of BS. > As far as flaxseed goes- my natural medicine physician has patients > who only > get their omega-3 FA's from flax because they refuse to take anything from > an animal and they have lowered their LDL and VLDL and cholesterol levels > very low. All from the plant approach. > So, there is 2 directions you can take: the fish source omega-3's or the > plant source omega-3's. Either approach works. OR you can combine the 2. > The native Americans and others who don't live near any fish source of > omega-3's have always used flax seeds and flax seed oil and achieved the > same benefits as the fish omega-3's. > > > -- Re: Flaxseed oil and coconut oil/Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very little of it is converted in the body to the usable form. As a > > > > > > > > male, the present research evidence convinces me that I should > > limit my > > > > > > > > consumption of Alpha-linolenic acid, a large component of flax, > until > > > > > > > > much better an much longer term studies are done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Furthermore, conversion of dietary ALA into EPA is limited. > Because > > > the > > > > > > > > efficacy of n−3 long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acid (LC-PUFA) > > > > > > > > synthesis decreases down the cascade of ALA conversion, DHA > synthesis > > > > > > > > from ALA is even more restricted than that of EPA.[5] " - > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid> > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid>> > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid> > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Some studies have linked ALA with rapidly progressing prostate > > > > > > > > cancer[8] and macular degeneration,[9] increasing the risk 70% over > > > > > > > > control subjects (over those that did not receive ALA). " - > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid> > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid>> > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid> > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-linolenic_acid>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nancie Barnett wrote: > > > > > > > >> Flaxseed has an excellent source of omega-3 oils. You just need to > > > buy a > > > > > > > >> good brand. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Steve - dudescholar4@... > <mailto:dudescholar4%40basicmail.net> > > <mailto:dudescholar4%40basicmail.net> > > <mailto:dudescholar4%40basicmail.net> > > > > > > Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at > > > http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html > <http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html> > > <http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html > <http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html>> > > > <http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html > <http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html> > > <http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html > <http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html>>> > > > > > > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march > > > to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Okay she was on there. I knew her name sounded familiar. She is robin mcgraws doctor too. Go figure! They were talking about hrt today Crystal Traveling? Know someone who is? Use my travelocity site www.travelfhtm com/crystalwright -- Nancie Was your doc on Oprah today? Crystal Traveling? Know someone who is? Use my travelocity site www.travelfhtm com/crystalwright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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