Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Thank you Dusty, I just got this message. I will check it out...because I really want to up my Armour dose, but when I do, I lose my hair. Still showing signs of hypo with 2 grains. Blessings, Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: I take Slo-Fe (ferritin supplement) and my hair began growing back. I was abysmally low in ferritin stores when tested and had to take the supplement. It was gentle on my stomach and I took it every other day til I knew how or if it would affect my gut. I do, however, get the " trots " from it - though most people do not... and in fact suffer from the opposite of not being able to go. Try the Slo-Fe (Walmart is cheapest). It will take a minimum of six weeks for you to really notice the hair coming in. No one ever discusses here, but my doc told me that low ferritin stores are very common in hypo folks. Dusty Re: Re: hair loss/ Hi Henry, Thanks very much for this information. I bought some EPO for something else, so I will start taking it. Blessings, dvanhelsing <dvanhelsing@ <mailto:dvanhelsing%40> > wrote: Hi /everyone, I have also recently noticed that I'm thinning at the temples. I googled " hair loss hypothyroid " and found a site that suggested evening primrose oil, ferritin, and two types of amino acid (I think L- lysine and something else) - I tried the EPO and noticed almost immediately that my scalp didn't hurt quite so much... Check it out! Hope this helps, Henry > > Hi , > > You may have already read this but in case you didn't try: stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > losing-my-hair/ > > Venizia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I am having hair loss ever since an endo, testing for something else took me off Thyrolar and put me on synthroid. I have been back on thyrolar since last year, but still have hair loss, freezing hands and feet, exhausted, no motivation, but have AFib, and the doctors don't want me to take more because they said it triggers the AFib. I usually have a high RBC count, so does that mean my ferritin is high or could be low? Roni Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: I take Slo-Fe (ferritin supplement) and my hair began growing back. I was abysmally low in ferritin stores when tested and had to take the supplement. It was gentle on my stomach and I took it every other day til I knew how or if it would affect my gut. I do, however, get the " trots " from it - though most people do not... and in fact suffer from the opposite of not being able to go. Try the Slo-Fe (Walmart is cheapest). It will take a minimum of six weeks for you to really notice the hair coming in. No one ever discusses here, but my doc told me that low ferritin stores are very common in hypo folks. Dusty Re: Re: hair loss/ Hi Henry, Thanks very much for this information. I bought some EPO for something else, so I will start taking it. Blessings, dvanhelsing <dvanhelsing@ <mailto:dvanhelsing%40> > wrote: Hi /everyone, I have also recently noticed that I'm thinning at the temples. I googled " hair loss hypothyroid " and found a site that suggested evening primrose oil, ferritin, and two types of amino acid (I think L- lysine and something else) - I tried the EPO and noticed almost immediately that my scalp didn't hurt quite so much... Check it out! Hope this helps, Henry > > Hi , > > You may have already read this but in case you didn't try: stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > losing-my-hair/ > > Venizia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Dusty, What is the initials for the ferritin results on the lab report? Roni and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: Thank you Dusty, I just got this message. I will check it out...because I really want to up my Armour dose, but when I do, I lose my hair. Still showing signs of hypo with 2 grains. Blessings, Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: I take Slo-Fe (ferritin supplement) and my hair began growing back. I was abysmally low in ferritin stores when tested and had to take the supplement. It was gentle on my stomach and I took it every other day til I knew how or if it would affect my gut. I do, however, get the " trots " from it - though most people do not... and in fact suffer from the opposite of not being able to go. Try the Slo-Fe (Walmart is cheapest). It will take a minimum of six weeks for you to really notice the hair coming in. No one ever discusses here, but my doc told me that low ferritin stores are very common in hypo folks. Dusty Re: Re: hair loss/ Hi Henry, Thanks very much for this information. I bought some EPO for something else, so I will start taking it. Blessings, dvanhelsing <dvanhelsing@ <mailto:dvanhelsing%40> > wrote: Hi /everyone, I have also recently noticed that I'm thinning at the temples. I googled " hair loss hypothyroid " and found a site that suggested evening primrose oil, ferritin, and two types of amino acid (I think L- lysine and something else) - I tried the EPO and noticed almost immediately that my scalp didn't hurt quite so much... Check it out! Hope this helps, Henry > > Hi , > > You may have already read this but in case you didn't try: stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > losing-my-hair/ > > Venizia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Oh No, Roni..... I don't have that info, but I am pretty certain it was Ferritin. As I understand what the doc said, the iron we take in converts to a usable form in our bodies and that form is ferritin. I add to a chart on my computer when I get blood work results and I wrote what I understand (hence the ferritin). You can test just fine on iron stores, but have a problem with ferritin.... so its the ferritin that has to be checked. I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this and can confirm the scientific name for the ferritin, if there is one. Dusty P.S. I know it is a side effect with Synthroid that each time you up the dose you can lose some hair, but is usually settles down a short while after the dosage adjustments. I haven't taken Armour so I don't know, but check your patient insert - maybe that's the case. Re: Re: hair loss/ Hi Henry, Thanks very much for this information. I bought some EPO for something else, so I will start taking it. Blessings, dvanhelsing <dvanhelsing@ <mailto:dvanhelsing%40> > wrote: Hi /everyone, I have also recently noticed that I'm thinning at the temples. I googled " hair loss hypothyroid " and found a site that suggested evening primrose oil, ferritin, and two types of amino acid (I think L- lysine and something else) - I tried the EPO and noticed almost immediately that my scalp didn't hurt quite so much... Check it out! Hope this helps, Henry > > Hi , > > You may have already read this but in case you didn't try: stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > losing-my-hair/ > > Venizia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Well, I went in for my blood work today, and my doctor had put down for ferritin, but the tech said she didn't think that was going to get covered by medicare, so I told them not to do it. They will be doing a CBC, which will sho red and white cell and hemoglobin (I think) so we'll see. Roni Oh No, Roni..... I don't have that info, but I am pretty certain it was Ferritin. As I understand what the doc said, the iron we take in converts to a usable form in our bodies and that form is ferritin. I add to a chart on my computer when I get blood work results and I wrote what I understand (hence the ferritin). You can test just fine on iron stores, but have a problem with ferritin.... so its the ferritin that has to be checked. I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this and can confirm the scientific name for the ferritin, if there is one. Dusty P.S. I know it is a side effect with Synthroid that each time you up the dose you can lose some hair, but is usually settles down a short while after the dosage adjustments. I haven't taken Armour so I don't know, but check your patient insert - maybe that's the case. Re: Re: hair loss/ Hi Henry, Thanks very much for this information. I bought some EPO for something else, so I will start taking it. Blessings, dvanhelsing <dvanhelsing@ <mailto:dvanhelsing%40> > wrote: Hi /everyone, I have also recently noticed that I'm thinning at the temples. I googled " hair loss hypothyroid " and found a site that suggested evening primrose oil, ferritin, and two types of amino acid (I think L- lysine and something else) - I tried the EPO and noticed almost immediately that my scalp didn't hurt quite so much... Check it out! Hope this helps, Henry > > Hi , > > You may have already read this but in case you didn't try: stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > losing-my-hair/ > > Venizia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Dusty, You wrote: > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this and can confirm the scientific > name for the ferritin, if there is one. Ferritin is a huge protein complex that stores iron, up to 4,500 iron ions in each complex. Free iron is actually pretty reactive and toxic, so the blood stores it by surrounding it in this protein web. I lost a little hair when I started T4, but I assumed it was because my dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Hi Dusty, Thanks for the info, this has really put some fire in my belly. Yesterday I got a blood test for iron (and zinc and, er <whispers> tsh), so I should get the results next week. I just looked in the mirror this morning - VIN DIESEL WATCH OUT!!!!! Henry > > > > Hi , > > > > You may have already read this but in case you didn't try: > stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > losing-my-hair/ > > > > Venizia > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 More info - if you're taking evening primrose oil for thyroid- related hairloss, you need to give it several months before seeing results...(apparently it functions as a natural dihydrotestosterone inhibitor - DHT destroys the follicles in both male- and female- pattern hairloss (the process of which is apparently sped up if one is hypothyroid)), although I'm concurrently testing some SAW PALMETTO, which apparently works similarly... I'm about a month in on the EPO and a week on the SP and iron supplements - will report back if and when any change occurs. In the meantime I'm just getting used to the Connery look LOL!! Yo peace out, Henry > > > > Hi , > > > > You may have already read this but in case you didn't try: > stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > losing-my-hair/ > > > > Venizia > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 OHG Henry you made me laugh out loud!!!! Thanks for brightening my day. If your doc didn't specifically test for ferritin though, y our iron stores can look fine but you could still have a ferritin problem. I'm gonna screw up this explanation I know, but the way I understand it is that ingested iron is converted to the ferritin form in our bodies so as to be more usable. If this is not converting properly, you begin to have trouble. The lab ranges are ridiculous, but most docs I've been to want the level to be at or about 70 in order for me to feel well. You could resemble Ringo (of the Beatles fame) in about a year if you restored your ferritin were it too low. Keep us posted. Dusty Re: Treating hair loss/ Hi Dusty, Thanks for the info, this has really put some fire in my belly. Yesterday I got a blood test for iron (and zinc and, er <whispers> tsh), so I should get the results next week. I just looked in the mirror this morning - VIN DIESEL WATCH OUT!!!!! Henry > > > > Hi , > > > > You may have already read this but in case you didn't try: > stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > losing-my-hair/ > > > > Venizia > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Sooooo, if my feeble brain (LOL)gets this, iron is converted to ferritin form so as to be more usable to us? Dumb it down for me Chuck, if I've got it wrong. I was really deficient and boy did it make a difference when I started supplementing withe the ferritin. My energy level improved, my fingernail and hair improved and I was generally much less fatigued . I got mine up to 101, which made the doc happy. I started out just above the lower lab range and the doc said that it is recognized that we shouldn't really fall below 70 no matter what the lab says!! Dusty Re: Treating hair loss/ Dusty, You wrote: > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this and can confirm the scientific > name for the ferritin, if there is one. Ferritin is a huge protein complex that stores iron, up to 4,500 iron ions in each complex. Free iron is actually pretty reactive and toxic, so the blood stores it by surrounding it in this protein web. I lost a little hair when I started T4, but I assumed it was because my dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Dusty wrote: > > > Sooooo, if my feeble brain (LOL)gets this, iron is converted to ferritin > form so as to be more usable to us? In a sense. Ferritin is a giant molecular cage for storing iron until it is needed. Turned loose, iron would not just be unusable, it would be toxic. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Dusty- My ferritin was a 14 and I think that the scale is like 11 - 100 something? My doctor said that that was kinda low but that all the receptor type things were full so it seemed okay. I took iron for a while and felt great. I stopped taking it and have these ridiculous ridges in my nails among other low iron symptoms - do you think there is something to this? Peace, --- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: > Sooooo, if my feeble brain (LOL)gets this, iron is > converted to ferritin > form so as to be more usable to us? > > > Dumb it down for me Chuck, if I've got it wrong. > > I was really deficient and boy did it make a > difference when I started > supplementing withe the ferritin. My energy level > improved, my fingernail > and hair improved and I was generally much less > fatigued . > > I got mine up to 101, which made the doc happy. I > started out just above > the lower lab range and the doc said that it is > recognized that we shouldn't > really fall below 70 no matter what the lab says!! > Dusty > > > > Re: Treating hair > loss/ > > > > Dusty, > > You wrote: > > > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this and can > confirm the scientific > > name for the ferritin, if there is one. > > Ferritin is a huge protein complex that stores iron, > up to 4,500 iron > ions in each complex. Free iron is actually pretty > reactive and toxic, > so the blood stores it by surrounding it in this > protein web. > > I lost a little hair when I started T4, but I > assumed it was because my > dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. > > Chuck > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Hi , I also have these ridges. They are vertical ridges. Is this from iron? Thanks! Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: Dusty- My ferritin was a 14 and I think that the scale is like 11 - 100 something? My doctor said that that was kinda low but that all the receptor type things were full so it seemed okay. I took iron for a while and felt great. I stopped taking it and have these ridiculous ridges in my nails among other low iron symptoms - do you think there is something to this? Peace, --- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: > Sooooo, if my feeble brain (LOL)gets this, iron is > converted to ferritin > form so as to be more usable to us? > > > Dumb it down for me Chuck, if I've got it wrong. > > I was really deficient and boy did it make a > difference when I started > supplementing withe the ferritin. My energy level > improved, my fingernail > and hair improved and I was generally much less > fatigued . > > I got mine up to 101, which made the doc happy. I > started out just above > the lower lab range and the doc said that it is > recognized that we shouldn't > really fall below 70 no matter what the lab says!! > Dusty > > > > Re: Treating hair > loss/ > > > > Dusty, > > You wrote: > > > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this and can > confirm the scientific > > name for the ferritin, if there is one. > > Ferritin is a huge protein complex that stores iron, > up to 4,500 iron > ions in each complex. Free iron is actually pretty > reactive and toxic, > so the blood stores it by surrounding it in this > protein web. > > I lost a little hair when I started T4, but I > assumed it was because my > dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. > > Chuck > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 I also have vertical ridges in my nails and horizontal ridges on my toenails. Something else that needs checking?! Venizia -- In hypothyroidism , and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: > > Hi , > I also have these ridges. They are vertical ridges. Is this from iron? > Thanks! > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > Dusty- > > My ferritin was a 14 and I think that the scale is > like 11 - 100 something? My doctor said that that was > kinda low but that all the receptor type things were > full so it seemed okay. I took iron for a while and > felt great. I stopped taking it and have these > ridiculous ridges in my nails among other low iron > symptoms - do you think there is something to this? > > Peace, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 - That is so funny, I have never seen anyone else with them before, now I'm not alone! Yeah, mine are vertical as well and there will be a couple of these ridges in a row but there is also horizontal curves as well ... and just on my thumb nails. Kinda weird, and yes I was under the impression that nail ridges can equal iron issues. Peace, --- and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: > Hi , > I also have these ridges. They are vertical > ridges. Is this from iron? > Thanks! > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > Dusty- > > My ferritin was a 14 and I think that the scale is > like 11 - 100 something? My doctor said that that > was > kinda low but that all the receptor type things were > full so it seemed okay. I took iron for a while and > felt great. I stopped taking it and have these > ridiculous ridges in my nails among other low iron > symptoms - do you think there is something to this? > > Peace, > > > --- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: > > > Sooooo, if my feeble brain (LOL)gets this, iron is > > converted to ferritin > > form so as to be more usable to us? > > > > > > Dumb it down for me Chuck, if I've got it wrong. > > > > I was really deficient and boy did it make a > > difference when I started > > supplementing withe the ferritin. My energy level > > improved, my fingernail > > and hair improved and I was generally much less > > fatigued . > > > > I got mine up to 101, which made the doc happy. I > > started out just above > > the lower lab range and the doc said that it is > > recognized that we shouldn't > > really fall below 70 no matter what the lab says!! > > Dusty > > > > > > > > Re: Treating hair > > loss/ > > > > > > > > Dusty, > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this and > can > > confirm the scientific > > > name for the ferritin, if there is one. > > > > Ferritin is a huge protein complex that stores > iron, > > up to 4,500 iron > > ions in each complex. Free iron is actually pretty > > reactive and toxic, > > so the blood stores it by surrounding it in this > > protein web. > > > > I lost a little hair when I started T4, but I > > assumed it was because my > > dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 I have vertical ridges too, but no Ruffles. LOL Roni Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: - That is so funny, I have never seen anyone else with them before, now I'm not alone! Yeah, mine are vertical as well and there will be a couple of these ridges in a row but there is also horizontal curves as well ... and just on my thumb nails. Kinda weird, and yes I was under the impression that nail ridges can equal iron issues. Peace, --- and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: > Hi , > I also have these ridges. They are vertical > ridges. Is this from iron? > Thanks! > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > Dusty- > > My ferritin was a 14 and I think that the scale is > like 11 - 100 something? My doctor said that that > was > kinda low but that all the receptor type things were > full so it seemed okay. I took iron for a while and > felt great. I stopped taking it and have these > ridiculous ridges in my nails among other low iron > symptoms - do you think there is something to this? > > Peace, > > > --- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: > > > Sooooo, if my feeble brain (LOL)gets this, iron is > > converted to ferritin > > form so as to be more usable to us? > > > > > > Dumb it down for me Chuck, if I've got it wrong. > > > > I was really deficient and boy did it make a > > difference when I started > > supplementing withe the ferritin. My energy level > > improved, my fingernail > > and hair improved and I was generally much less > > fatigued . > > > > I got mine up to 101, which made the doc happy. I > > started out just above > > the lower lab range and the doc said that it is > > recognized that we shouldn't > > really fall below 70 no matter what the lab says!! > > Dusty > > > > > > > > Re: Treating hair > > loss/ > > > > > > > > Dusty, > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this and > can > > confirm the scientific > > > name for the ferritin, if there is one. > > > > Ferritin is a huge protein complex that stores > iron, > > up to 4,500 iron > > ions in each complex. Free iron is actually pretty > > reactive and toxic, > > so the blood stores it by surrounding it in this > > protein web. > > > > I lost a little hair when I started T4, but I > > assumed it was because my > > dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Nail site: http://www.hooked-on-nails.com/naildisorders.html Sam :-o > > > > > > > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this and > > can > > > confirm the scientific > > > > name for the ferritin, if there is one. > > > > > > Ferritin is a huge protein complex that stores > > iron, > > > up to 4,500 iron > > > ions in each complex. Free iron is actually pretty > > > reactive and toxic, > > > so the blood stores it by surrounding it in this > > > protein web. > > > > > > I lost a little hair when I started T4, but I > > > assumed it was because my > > > dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Search. > > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php? category=shopping > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Well that's okay, unfortunately however, without ruffles you cannot join my vertical ridges, horizontal ruffles, and only on the thumbs club, but I wish you the best of luck ;-) LoL. Peace, :-) --- Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > I have vertical ridges too, but no Ruffles. LOL > > Roni > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > - > That is so funny, I have never seen anyone else with > them before, now I'm not alone! Yeah, mine are > vertical as well and there will be a couple of these > ridges in a row but there is also horizontal curves > as > well ... and just on my thumb nails. Kinda weird, > and > yes I was under the impression that nail ridges can > equal iron issues. > > Peace, > > > --- and Irwin > <familyirwin@...> wrote: > > > Hi , > > I also have these ridges. They are vertical > > ridges. Is this from iron? > > Thanks! > > > > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > > Dusty- > > > > My ferritin was a 14 and I think that the scale is > > like 11 - 100 something? My doctor said that that > > was > > kinda low but that all the receptor type things > were > > full so it seemed okay. I took iron for a while > and > > felt great. I stopped taking it and have these > > ridiculous ridges in my nails among other low iron > > symptoms - do you think there is something to > this? > > > > Peace, > > > > > > --- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: > > > > > Sooooo, if my feeble brain (LOL)gets this, iron > is > > > converted to ferritin > > > form so as to be more usable to us? > > > > > > > > > Dumb it down for me Chuck, if I've got it wrong. > > > > > > I was really deficient and boy did it make a > > > difference when I started > > > supplementing withe the ferritin. My energy > level > > > improved, my fingernail > > > and hair improved and I was generally much less > > > fatigued . > > > > > > I got mine up to 101, which made the doc happy. > I > > > started out just above > > > the lower lab range and the doc said that it is > > > recognized that we shouldn't > > > really fall below 70 no matter what the lab > says!! > > > Dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Treating hair > > > loss/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Dusty, > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this and > > can > > > confirm the scientific > > > > name for the ferritin, if there is one. > > > > > > Ferritin is a huge protein complex that stores > > iron, > > > up to 4,500 iron > > > ions in each complex. Free iron is actually > pretty > > > reactive and toxic, > > > so the blood stores it by surrounding it in this > > > protein web. > > > > > > I lost a little hair when I started T4, but I > > > assumed it was because my > > > dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Search. > > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile. Try it now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Awww! Who wants to join your old club anyway? LOL Roni Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: Well that's okay, unfortunately however, without ruffles you cannot join my vertical ridges, horizontal ruffles, and only on the thumbs club, but I wish you the best of luck ;-) LoL. Peace, :-) --- Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > I have vertical ridges too, but no Ruffles. LOL > > Roni > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > - > That is so funny, I have never seen anyone else with > them before, now I'm not alone! Yeah, mine are > vertical as well and there will be a couple of these > ridges in a row but there is also horizontal curves > as > well ... and just on my thumb nails. Kinda weird, > and > yes I was under the impression that nail ridges can > equal iron issues. > > Peace, > > > --- and Irwin > <familyirwin@...> wrote: > > > Hi , > > I also have these ridges. They are vertical > > ridges. Is this from iron? > > Thanks! > > > > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > > Dusty- > > > > My ferritin was a 14 and I think that the scale is > > like 11 - 100 something? My doctor said that that > > was > > kinda low but that all the receptor type things > were > > full so it seemed okay. I took iron for a while > and > > felt great. I stopped taking it and have these > > ridiculous ridges in my nails among other low iron > > symptoms - do you think there is something to > this? > > > > Peace, > > > > > > --- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: > > > > > Sooooo, if my feeble brain (LOL)gets this, iron > is > > > converted to ferritin > > > form so as to be more usable to us? > > > > > > > > > Dumb it down for me Chuck, if I've got it wrong. > > > > > > I was really deficient and boy did it make a > > > difference when I started > > > supplementing withe the ferritin. My energy > level > > > improved, my fingernail > > > and hair improved and I was generally much less > > > fatigued . > > > > > > I got mine up to 101, which made the doc happy. > I > > > started out just above > > > the lower lab range and the doc said that it is > > > recognized that we shouldn't > > > really fall below 70 no matter what the lab > says!! > > > Dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Treating hair > > > loss/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Dusty, > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this and > > can > > > confirm the scientific > > > > name for the ferritin, if there is one. > > > > > > Ferritin is a huge protein complex that stores > > iron, > > > up to 4,500 iron > > > ions in each complex. Free iron is actually > pretty > > > reactive and toxic, > > > so the blood stores it by surrounding it in this > > > protein web. > > > > > > I lost a little hair when I started T4, but I > > > assumed it was because my > > > dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Search. > > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile. Try it now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 LoL!! You're really funny Roni :-) Peace, --- Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > Awww! Who wants to join your old club anyway? LOL > Roni > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > Well that's okay, unfortunately however, > without > ruffles you cannot join my vertical ridges, > horizontal > ruffles, and only on the thumbs club, but I wish you > the best of luck ;-) LoL. > > Peace, > :-) > > --- Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > > > I have vertical ridges too, but no Ruffles. LOL > > > > Roni > > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > > - > > That is so funny, I have never seen anyone else > with > > them before, now I'm not alone! Yeah, mine are > > vertical as well and there will be a couple of > these > > ridges in a row but there is also horizontal > curves > > as > > well ... and just on my thumb nails. Kinda weird, > > and > > yes I was under the impression that nail ridges > can > > equal iron issues. > > > > Peace, > > > > > > --- and Irwin > > <familyirwin@...> wrote: > > > > > Hi , > > > I also have these ridges. They are vertical > > > ridges. Is this from iron? > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > > > Dusty- > > > > > > My ferritin was a 14 and I think that the scale > is > > > like 11 - 100 something? My doctor said that > that > > > was > > > kinda low but that all the receptor type things > > were > > > full so it seemed okay. I took iron for a while > > and > > > felt great. I stopped taking it and have these > > > ridiculous ridges in my nails among other low > iron > > > symptoms - do you think there is something to > > this? > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > > > --- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Sooooo, if my feeble brain (LOL)gets this, > iron > > is > > > > converted to ferritin > > > > form so as to be more usable to us? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dumb it down for me Chuck, if I've got it > wrong. > > > > > > > > I was really deficient and boy did it make a > > > > difference when I started > > > > supplementing withe the ferritin. My energy > > level > > > > improved, my fingernail > > > > and hair improved and I was generally much > less > > > > fatigued . > > > > > > > > I got mine up to 101, which made the doc > happy. > > I > > > > started out just above > > > > the lower lab range and the doc said that it > is > > > > recognized that we shouldn't > > > > really fall below 70 no matter what the lab > > says!! > > > > Dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Treating hair > > > > loss/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dusty, > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this > and > > > can > > > > confirm the scientific > > > > > name for the ferritin, if there is one. > > > > > > > > Ferritin is a huge protein complex that stores > > > iron, > > > > up to 4,500 iron > > > > ions in each complex. Free iron is actually > > pretty > > > > reactive and toxic, > > > > so the blood stores it by surrounding it in > this > > > > protein web. > > > > > > > > I lost a little hair when I started T4, but I > > > > assumed it was because my > > > > dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > Find them fast with Search. > > > > > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all > with > > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I believe (although I could be wrong) that ridges on nails can also be a sign of psoriasis. Don't tell me that this is related to HypoT too!!! :/ --- Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > Well that's okay, unfortunately however, without > ruffles you cannot join my vertical ridges, > horizontal > ruffles, and only on the thumbs club, but I wish you > the best of luck ;-) LoL. > > Peace, > :-) > > --- Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > > > I have vertical ridges too, but no Ruffles. LOL > > > > Roni > > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > > - > > That is so funny, I have never seen anyone else > with > > them before, now I'm not alone! Yeah, mine are > > vertical as well and there will be a couple of > these > > ridges in a row but there is also horizontal > curves > > as > > well ... and just on my thumb nails. Kinda weird, > > and > > yes I was under the impression that nail ridges > can > > equal iron issues. > > > > Peace, > > > > > > --- and Irwin > > <familyirwin@...> wrote: > > > > > Hi , > > > I also have these ridges. They are vertical > > > ridges. Is this from iron? > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > > > Dusty- > > > > > > My ferritin was a 14 and I think that the scale > is > > > like 11 - 100 something? My doctor said that > that > > > was > > > kinda low but that all the receptor type things > > were > > > full so it seemed okay. I took iron for a while > > and > > > felt great. I stopped taking it and have these > > > ridiculous ridges in my nails among other low > iron > > > symptoms - do you think there is something to > > this? > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > > > --- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Sooooo, if my feeble brain (LOL)gets this, > iron > > is > > > > converted to ferritin > > > > form so as to be more usable to us? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dumb it down for me Chuck, if I've got it > wrong. > > > > > > > > I was really deficient and boy did it make a > > > > difference when I started > > > > supplementing withe the ferritin. My energy > > level > > > > improved, my fingernail > > > > and hair improved and I was generally much > less > > > > fatigued . > > > > > > > > I got mine up to 101, which made the doc > happy. > > I > > > > started out just above > > > > the lower lab range and the doc said that it > is > > > > recognized that we shouldn't > > > > really fall below 70 no matter what the lab > > says!! > > > > Dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Treating hair > > > > loss/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dusty, > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this > and > > > can > > > > confirm the scientific > > > > > name for the ferritin, if there is one. > > > > > > > > Ferritin is a huge protein complex that stores > > > iron, > > > > up to 4,500 iron > > > > ions in each complex. Free iron is actually > > pretty > > > > reactive and toxic, > > > > so the blood stores it by surrounding it in > this > > > > protein web. > > > > > > > > I lost a little hair when I started T4, but I > > > > assumed it was because my > > > > dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > Find them fast with Search. > > > > > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all > with > > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Yes, psoriasis among many many other things including both hyper and hypoT. Peace, --- Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote: > > I believe (although I could be wrong) that ridges on > nails can also be a sign of psoriasis. Don't tell me > that this is related to HypoT too!!! :/ > > > > --- Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > > > Well that's okay, unfortunately however, without > > ruffles you cannot join my vertical ridges, > > horizontal > > ruffles, and only on the thumbs club, but I wish > you > > the best of luck ;-) LoL. > > > > Peace, > > :-) > > > > --- Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > > > > > I have vertical ridges too, but no Ruffles. LOL > > > > > > Roni > > > > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > > > - > > > That is so funny, I have never seen anyone else > > with > > > them before, now I'm not alone! Yeah, mine are > > > vertical as well and there will be a couple of > > these > > > ridges in a row but there is also horizontal > > curves > > > as > > > well ... and just on my thumb nails. Kinda > weird, > > > and > > > yes I was under the impression that nail ridges > > can > > > equal iron issues. > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > > > --- and Irwin > > > <familyirwin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi , > > > > I also have these ridges. They are vertical > > > > ridges. Is this from iron? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > > > > Dusty- > > > > > > > > My ferritin was a 14 and I think that the > scale > > is > > > > like 11 - 100 something? My doctor said that > > that > > > > was > > > > kinda low but that all the receptor type > things > > > were > > > > full so it seemed okay. I took iron for a > while > > > and > > > > felt great. I stopped taking it and have these > > > > ridiculous ridges in my nails among other low > > iron > > > > symptoms - do you think there is something to > > > this? > > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sooooo, if my feeble brain (LOL)gets this, > > iron > > > is > > > > > converted to ferritin > > > > > form so as to be more usable to us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dumb it down for me Chuck, if I've got it > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > I was really deficient and boy did it make a > > > > > difference when I started > > > > > supplementing withe the ferritin. My energy > > > level > > > > > improved, my fingernail > > > > > and hair improved and I was generally much > > less > > > > > fatigued . > > > > > > > > > > I got mine up to 101, which made the doc > > happy. > > > I > > > > > started out just above > > > > > the lower lab range and the doc said that it > > is > > > > > recognized that we shouldn't > > > > > really fall below 70 no matter what the lab > > > says!! > > > > > Dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Treating hair > > > > > loss/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dusty, > > > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this > > and > > > > can > > > > > confirm the scientific > > > > > > name for the ferritin, if there is one. > > > > > > > > > > Ferritin is a huge protein complex that > stores > > > > iron, > > > > > up to 4,500 iron > > > > > ions in each complex. Free iron is actually > > > pretty > > > > > reactive and toxic, > > > > > so the blood stores it by surrounding it in > > this > > > > > protein web. > > > > > > > > > > I lost a little hair when I started T4, but > I > > > > > assumed it was because my > > > > > dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. > > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > > Find them fast with Search. > > > > > > > > > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all > > with > > > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 definately hypo, as is psoriasis. Gracia I believe (although I could be wrong) that ridges on nails can also be a sign of psoriasis. Don't tell me that this is related to HypoT too!!! :/ --- Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > Well that's okay, unfortunately however, without > ruffles you cannot join my vertical ridges, > horizontal > ruffles, and only on the thumbs club, but I wish you > the best of luck ;-) LoL. > > Peace, > :-) > > --- Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > > > I have vertical ridges too, but no Ruffles. LOL > > > > Roni > > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > > - > > That is so funny, I have never seen anyone else > with > > them before, now I'm not alone! Yeah, mine are > > vertical as well and there will be a couple of > these > > ridges in a row but there is also horizontal > curves > > as > > well ... and just on my thumb nails. Kinda weird, > > and > > yes I was under the impression that nail ridges > can > > equal iron issues. > > > > Peace, > > > > > > --- and Irwin > > <familyirwin@...> wrote: > > > > > Hi , > > > I also have these ridges. They are vertical > > > ridges. Is this from iron? > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote: > > > Dusty- > > > > > > My ferritin was a 14 and I think that the scale > is > > > like 11 - 100 something? My doctor said that > that > > > was > > > kinda low but that all the receptor type things > > were > > > full so it seemed okay. I took iron for a while > > and > > > felt great. I stopped taking it and have these > > > ridiculous ridges in my nails among other low > iron > > > symptoms - do you think there is something to > > this? > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > > > --- Dusty <dusty@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Sooooo, if my feeble brain (LOL)gets this, > iron > > is > > > > converted to ferritin > > > > form so as to be more usable to us? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dumb it down for me Chuck, if I've got it > wrong. > > > > > > > > I was really deficient and boy did it make a > > > > difference when I started > > > > supplementing withe the ferritin. My energy > > level > > > > improved, my fingernail > > > > and hair improved and I was generally much > less > > > > fatigued . > > > > > > > > I got mine up to 101, which made the doc > happy. > > I > > > > started out just above > > > > the lower lab range and the doc said that it > is > > > > recognized that we shouldn't > > > > really fall below 70 no matter what the lab > > says!! > > > > Dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Treating hair > > > > loss/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dusty, > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'd bet Chuck as a clearer picture of this > and > > > can > > > > confirm the scientific > > > > > name for the ferritin, if there is one. > > > > > > > > Ferritin is a huge protein complex that stores > > > iron, > > > > up to 4,500 iron > > > > ions in each complex. Free iron is actually > > pretty > > > > reactive and toxic, > > > > so the blood stores it by surrounding it in > this > > > > protein web. > > > > > > > > I lost a little hair when I started T4, but I > > > > assumed it was because my > > > > dosage wasn't yet up to full effectiveness. > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > Find them fast with Search. > > > > > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all > with > > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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