Re:New to group help understanding Thyroid levels

[Guest guest]

Personally I would not be concerned, as you are within the tolerance

range for healthy people; and you have listed no symptoms either.

The recommendation for a TSH level considerably below the norm for

healthy people comes from the fact that those confirmed to have

hypothyroidism and under treatment for same sometimes continue to have

symptoms, sometimes severe, even though the TSH level has been lowered

to the norm for healthy people. Therefore the idea, whether correct or

not, has arisen that once you become hypothyroid you may have problems

if you TSH is above two. Some people swear that they do not feel well

until the TSH is lowered to almost zero. Yet others do well once the TSH

is lowered to the " normal " range; but we probably hear from few of

those, as they have less of an incentive to seek out further help such

as this site if they don't feel they need it.

But AFAIK none of this applies to healthy people. I'm personally on

Synthroid and my TSH is higher than yours; but as I have no symptoms it

doesn't concern me.

You might consider keeping a closer watch on your TSH levels and

symptoms since you have a number of relatives who are hypothyroid, and I

believe there's a strong possibility that there is a genetic component

to the risk factor.

Luck,

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> thresaaguayo28 <thresaaguayo28>

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> Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:40 pm (PST)

>

> Hello everyone, my name is Thresa. I just joined this group for

> several reasons. My grandmother, mom and sister are all

> Hypothyroid. My sister has Hashimoto's disease, which came on after

> 6 months after having her first child when she was having a very

> stressful time at her demanding job (not sure if that is what caused

> it). I just had some blood work done and I am concerned with my

> thyroid levels. The doctor was not concerned at all. I am a 32 years

> old female and am ideal weight and in good shape. Should I be

> concerned about the following levels?

>

> TSH 3.08 (lab normal less than 5)

> T3 103 (lab normal 85-205)

> T4 7.2 (lab normal 4.5-12)

>

> I have been doing some reading and from what I gather a TSH over 2

> is a reason for concern. I'm not sure what is ideal for T3 and T4.

> My holistic chiropractor has me taking standard process organically

> bound minerals (basically kelp and alfalfa juice)….he thinks this

> will resolve the high TSH because of the iodine. I am reading some

> conflicting information that iodine (even kelp) might make my

> thyroid worse.

>

> So at my current level should I be able to correct the problem

> without the use of thyroid medications? I was under a lot of stress

> when I had the blood work done. I was moving into a new house and

> trying to sell my other house. I am hoping that this may have had

> something to do with the reading be on the high side, and I really

> hope that it is still correctable without medicine. I would like

> some more opinions and advice and someone to explain what an ideal

> T3 and T4 would be. Should I have some additional blood work done?

> Thanks so much in advance for the advice.

[Guest guest]

I think there is a genetic component in how the body reacts

to iodine deficiency. It's the BIG picture, not a wee component

of it.

Sam

>

> james-

> there is a definite genetic link with thyroid disease.

[Guest guest]

, look into iodine deficiency. Really.

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

>

> I am in a family of four. My Mom has hashimoto's, I have

hashimoto's, and my

> 16 year old sister was diagnosed with hashimoto's (antibodies in the

> thousands, TSH 5) about 5 months ago or something. If that's not

genetic, tell me

> what is.

>

> Peace out,

>

[Guest guest]

Miso withOUT tofu, right?

I guess if you ate a 100 pound bale of seaweed from Japan every day

you'd be totally fine. http://www.jbc.org/cgi/reprint/102/1/91.pdf

http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.2004.14.836?

cookieSet=1 & journalCode=thy

One of my sisters ate tofu three times a day for years and made

herself hypO. You'd think with a sister like me she'd listen to what

I had to say about that...well, she'd reduced her tofu intake to

twice a day now. ARGH! Every once in a while she'll call and ask for

help, but totally disregard what I tell her and email to her. So I'm

thinking of going to visit her in Las Vegas when my fiance and I ride

our motorcycles down there to get married this summer. I'm going to

surprise her with a case of Iodoral and a ton of Vitamin C. Maybe I

could get her a membership in Soy Eaters Annonymous...haha

, we are literally bombarded with so many things that can

affect our body iodine every single day. Stuff like fluoride in

toothpaste, mouthwash, and city water, that new car smell is bromide

(darn it), mercury in vaccines, soy hidden in every day food

products, lack of iodine in soil that grows food for the nation,

bromide in flour and commercial breads, TV dinners, restaurant food,

percolates, jet fuel, yadda yadda... It would be nearly impossible

for any human being living in the United States to avoid all contact

with things like that, darn it.

Read about TPO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid_peroxidase

Then think what happens if there is not enough iodine available for

the normal amount of TPO...

Sam :-D

>

>

> Thanks for the input Sam. It's just that I eat miso soup with

ridiculous

> amounts of seaweed atleast 3 times a week. I don't see how I would

need more than

> that. People wouldn't evolve to need to take soooo much of

something that you

> can't get in just eating a balanced diet. No disrespect, and it

really seems

> like it works for some people, but it just doesn't make sense that

so many

> people would need such high amounts of something.

>

> Peace,

>

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>

> , look into iodine deficiency. Really.

>

> Sam

> (thyroidless since 1990)

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> >

> > I am in a family of four. My Mom has hashimoto's, I have

> hashimoto's, and my

> > 16 year old sister was diagnosed with hashimoto's (antibodies in

the

> > thousands, TSH 5) about 5 months ago or something. If that's not

> genetic, tell me

> > what is.

> >

> > Peace out,

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Iodine deficiency isn't a disease, you silly, it's a deficiency...one

that's fixable. Sorry I didn't wait for you guys to figure out if it

was ok or not, I went ahead and started my iodine without you. WOO HOO,

it's awesome!

Think about this...with so many cells et al in the body requiring a

specific amount of iodine to function normally, imagine what can happen

when there isn't enough iodine to go around...

....kind of like baking a cake with not enough of one of the central

ingredients...like not enough flour, or not enough levening..it's still

sorta the same thing but kinda all globally messed up in a 'nightmare

on elm street' kind of way.

Oh great, and I'm gonna be eating birthday cake in a few hours...maybe

I should go for the creme brulee'

Sam :-D <---smiley face

>

> so is there only one disease on the planet....iodine deficiency??? :-P

>

> What about using Armour to suppress the TSH level to limit antibodies?

>

> What about getting ones Vitamin D levels up to limit autoimmunity

(Hashi's)?

>

> http://tinyurl.com/ytouhu

>

> Neil

>

[Guest guest]

Pre-20th century or post-20th century evolved? All bets are off after

the industrial revolution...

We evolved from astrobiology or something, or 2 enzymes accidently

coming together after a Murchison meteorite-ish type of event, or

something...that's what I think.

To begin with, iodine was important for mammalian life forms to

evolve into mammalian life forms in the first place. It was part of

us from the get-go...because recent humans have created circumstances

that lower our content of iodine does not mean we need it any less.

We would not be alive if there were no iodine in us at all...please

don't try that at home

Sam

(older and hairier)

>

> Do you ever wonder, though, why we either [A] evolved to need much

more

> iodine than is available in our normal diets; or were created

by God

> to need more iodine than out diets could provide??? If that's what

> you're saying then to me it doesn't pass the common sense test.

>

> Or, is it only certain people who are deficient? [For Gracia, 95%?

{ggg}]

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