Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Hi Andy, If I might throw something into the mix (then back away quickly), I've been interested in a paradigm in cultural Psychology called Terror Management Theory. I've emailed Warren about this topic as of potential interest for a CR conference (through a documentary film about death that discusses it: www.flightfromdeath.com). I too have spent my time in the 'belly of the beast' and found Ernest Becker's _Denial of Death_ very insightful. My only direct comment on CR is to treat it realistically as a practical method of staying around longer, rather than placing it as some kind of immortality project that must be defended. This is one of the reasons I'm no longer on the other CR list -- too much anger over defending one ideology over another, attempting conversions, and other things that smell of something other than practical methods... Cheers, > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy [mailto:endofthedream@...] > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:54 AM > > Subject: [ ] Re: What are the Principal Causes of Death in > CR Rodents? > > > > > > I have no idea of the answer to your question, but I am glad you > > asked it and hope that some brilliant CR member will come up with > > something. What do we die of if we are skinny with good hearts and > > arteries? > > > *****There are several answers to the question, but they are not > particularly scientific ;-) > > We die because of the belief that we have to die. > > We die every moment, and are reborn similarly. It is an ongoing > process, too fast to notice while happening (except in deep > meditation). It can, however, be seen, in retrospect, via thought. > > We die every night, when sleep overcomes us. And are reborn upon > awakening. > > We never really die; only the thought of " me " dies. The body is > eternal, though in varying forms. > > Genuine concern about dying may lead one to deeply investigate " who " > dies...who or what is this " me " that is believed to pass away. > > There are a LOT of unexamined assumptions, unconscious or semi- > conscious thoughts about these issues, all floating around in > localized consciousness (your brain, my brain), as well as in the > collective unconscious (which we all are tapped into). I suspect > that such diets as CRON are born out of a fear (realized or not) of > dying. > > I spent more than three persistent years deep in the " belly of the > beast " with these questions, and was provoked to confront them, head > on, during my dance with cancer, so I have a certain ... > affection ... for them. However, I suspect that this is not the > forum for such dialogues. Anyone experiencing interest in these open- > ended questions can feel free to contact me if so inclinced (Warning: > you may end up losing your investment in your CRON diet! Hahaha!!!) > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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