Re: niacin in pregnancy

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi-

> I know that this has been asked before, but I wanted to ask in my

> case in particular.

> I have been taking 100 mg of niacin in one dose, once a day. I

was

> not doing the divided doses as I should (50 mg twice a day). It

hadn't

> occurred to me that this might be a problem during pregnancy, but now

> that I look it up, it seems to be cautioned against. They say not to

go

> beyond the RDA, which is 18 mg.

> Also, if I eat liver once a week, then I don't need to take

> additional B vitamins? Just want to confirm.

>

>

> Thanks-Jenni Grant

==>Yes, if you eat enough liver; 6 ounces twice a week. Or you can

takie Nutritional Yeast Flakes, 2 tbl in water twice a day; get Red

Star or Frontier.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply. Sorry to ask again, but I am nervous about the

niacin. I found some citations which said that excess niacin (over 18

mg) is category C, that studies have not been done on humans, but have

been done on animals, and in animals have shown detrimental effect.

Perhaps this is a particular form of niacin that is worse than others;

I couldn't find more details. Perhaps the synthetic or non-flushing

variety is the problem, I don't know.

Thanks-Jenni

> >

> > Hi-

> > I know that this has been asked before, but I wanted to ask in my

> > case in particular.

> > I have been taking 100 mg of niacin in one dose, once a day. I

> was

> > not doing the divided doses as I should (50 mg twice a day). It

> hadn't

> > occurred to me that this might be a problem during pregnancy, but now

> > that I look it up, it seems to be cautioned against. They say not to

> go

> > beyond the RDA, which is 18 mg.

> > Also, if I eat liver once a week, then I don't need to take

> > additional B vitamins? Just want to confirm.

> >

> >

> > Thanks-Jenni Grant

>

> ==>Yes, if you eat enough liver; 6 ounces twice a week. Or you can

> takie Nutritional Yeast Flakes, 2 tbl in water twice a day; get Red

> Star or Frontier.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't bee following this thread so I am sorry if I am repeating

anything. I am certainly no expert on this but my only concern with niacin

during pregnancy would be that it is detoxifying. When you have a flush,

presumably you are dumping toxins into the bloodstream. If that is true you

can be exposing the baby to a bunch of nasty stuff. I have no idea how much

niacin would be safe to take in this situation. Sorry this is all caution

and no help.

Irene

At 08:31 AM 1/9/2008, you wrote:

>Thanks for the reply. Sorry to ask again, but I am nervous about the

>niacin. I found some citations which said that excess niacin (over 18

>mg) is category C, that studies have not been done on humans, but have

>been done on animals, and in animals have shown detrimental effect.

>Perhaps this is a particular form of niacin that is worse than others;

>I couldn't find more details. Perhaps the synthetic or non-flushing

>variety is the problem, I don't know.

>Thanks-Jenni

[Guest guest]

Yes, that is true. It isn't a good idea to take it while pregnant or

breastfeeding.

Zack

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, irene.m@... wrote:

> I haven't bee following this thread so I am sorry if I am repeating

> anything. I am certainly no expert on this but my only concern with niacin

> during pregnancy would be that it is detoxifying. When you have a flush,

> presumably you are dumping toxins into the bloodstream. If that is true you

> can be exposing the baby to a bunch of nasty stuff. I have no idea how much

> niacin would be safe to take in this situation. Sorry this is all caution

> and no help.

> Irene

>

[Guest guest]

I did track down a bit more info. An article on Wikipedia says,

" niacin at doses used in lowering cholesterol has been shown to cause

birth defects in laboratory animals, " but another source says, " The

recommended dose of niacin for treating high cholesterol ranges from

1000 mg to 5000 mg each day. " So perhaps 100 mg is not as bad as I had

feared, though I am still feeling stupid for not checking all this out

at the very beginning of my pregnancy...Hopefully the detox factor has

not harmed the baby.

Jenni

>

> > Thanks for the reply. Sorry to ask again, but I am nervous about the

> > niacin. I found some citations which said that excess niacin (over 18

> > mg) is category C, that studies have not been done on humans, but have

> > been done on animals, and in animals have shown detrimental effect.

> > Perhaps this is a particular form of niacin that is worse than others;

> > I couldn't find more details. Perhaps the synthetic or non-flushing

> > variety is the problem, I don't know.

> > Thanks-Jenni

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> I did track down a bit more info. An article on Wikipedia says,

> " niacin at doses used in lowering cholesterol has been shown to

cause birth defects in laboratory animals, " but another source

says, " The recommended dose of niacin for treating high cholesterol

ranges from 1000 mg to 5000 mg each day. " So perhaps 100 mg is not as

bad as I had feared, though I am still feeling stupid for not

checking all this out at the very beginning of my pregnancy...

Hopefully the detox factor has not harmed the baby.

> Jenni

==>I wouldn't trust any studies related to cholesterol, because they

test animals with isolated substances, and do not ensure the animal

is getting a proper diet. They definitely would not ensure good fats

and other oil soluble vitamins, etc. are provided to lab animals

along with the niacin. We know good fats and omega-3, vitamins A, D

& E work together, and they are the best antioxidants and cleansers

for the body. They clear out toxins before they could even reach the

fetus.

Niacin does not release toxins from the body without enough fats,

etc., therefore: was it the niacin or lack of good fats, etc. ?

Taking niacin releases toxins that are in the body's fatty tissues

through sweat and other secretions of the skin. The body mainly

stores toxins away from vital inner organ in fatty tissues under the

skin. So how could those toxins get into the fetus or breastmilk?

The fetus nor breastmilk are formed from fat stores in the body.

Also your own body makes niacin. Toxins that all of us get on a

daily basis are much worse than a supplement that is also made within

the body, i.e. damage caused by cell phones, exposure to

electromagnetics (everything electrical), fluoride in water and many

foods and toothpaste, cleaning and personal care products,

synthetics, additives, pesticides, etc., etc. There are many studies

that prove how harmful pesticides, additives, etc. are to the fetus

and how they get into breastmilk, but they are actually poisonous to

the body, while niacin is not. I'm sure that those studies on how

many toxins end up in breastmilk wouldn't have been with mothers who

ate a proper diet with plenty of good fats and supplements like cod

liver oil, etc.

Niacin is also a natural substance found in many foods as well, but

the studies don't get into that. They just warn about taking niacin

supplements ? What's up with that ?

Here's the food list:

Dietary Sources of Niacin

Food Niacin (mg)

Beef liver, 3.5 oz cooked 14.4

Peanuts, 1/2 cup 10.5

Chicken, white meat, cooked 13.4

Tuna, canned in water, 3 oz 11.8

Salmon, 3.5 oz cooked 8.0

Corn grits, instant, 1 pkt 6.8

Ground beef, 3.5 oz cooked 5.3

Cheerios, 1 cup 5.0

Peanut butter, 2 Tbl 4.4

Almonds, 1/2 cup 1.4

Potato, baked with skin 3.3

Bagel, plain, 2.5 oz 3.3

Flour tortilla, 10 " 2.6

Pasta, 1 cup cooked 2.3

Mushrooms, raw, 1/2 cup 1.7

Barley, 1/2 cup cooked 1.6

Corn, yellow, 1/2 cup 1.3

Mango, 1 medium 1.5

Lentils, 1/2 cup cooked 1.4

Sweet potatoes, 1/2 cooked 1.2

Peach, raw, medium .9

Carrot, raw, medium .7

If anyone has information contrary to this logic, please let me know.

Bee