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Jamye,

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>

> Would your BP medication be a calcium channel blocker?

Atenolol (beta blocker) is often combined with a calcium channel

blocker, but Dusty's description did not mention a combination.

Chuck

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This will explain how a beta blocker might cause palpitations

First, some patients can develop worsening palpitations with beta-blockers,

although this is uncommon. The patients who develop this usually have

vagally-mediated atrial fibrillation so that when the get a slower resting heart

rate, it triggers afib. One way to see if the beta-blockers are causing a real

phenomenon is to up the dose as you were advised, but do so while wearing an

event monitor. This way, the doc can see what is happening when you are having

symptoms.

So. Chick is right. You need to have some cardiac monitoring done most likely.

Jamye

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Jamye,

You wrote:

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> Would your BP medication be a calcium channel blocker?

Atenolol (beta blocker) is often combined with a calcium channel

blocker, but Dusty's description did not mention a combination.

Chuck

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sending my condolences, too, sending loving and healing prayers to you, chuck

and your family!

peace,

nancie

Chuck

Hugs from CA! We are sorry to hear about your dad. Be Thou at Peace.

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Did a research paper on MRSA. All we all need to do is wash our hands and

share nothing. The importance of handwashing can not be over rated. Or using the

no rinse dispensers. You are so right in the fact it's become an epidemic

yet when people visit family in hospitals and they are on isloation they ignore

the rules and go in with no gloves or gowns on. Guess it's because they

can't see it unless the person has a red sore.

Whenever anyone comes from a nursing home to the local hospital they are

usually put on precautions till it's ruled out. It's also becoming wide spread

within the school sports arena especially the contact like wrestling.

Just another thought... I think Oprah may end up doing a show on thyroid

disease with all the press she's getting. Just imagine how many others that

aren't in our group have probably contacted her.

Ok...now a question...when any of you get just a cold is it 10x's worse than

a " normal " persons? I have missed two days of work!

Peace.

Char

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gumboyaya@... writes:

,

Thanks for your concern. I'm doing fine. Now we are finding that what

may have killed him is MRSA, the antibiotic resistant staph that is

becoming an epidemic across the country.

Chuck

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Thanks for your concern. I'm doing fine. Now we are finding that what

may have killed him is MRSA, the antibiotic resistant staph that is

becoming an epidemic across the country.

Chuck

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>

> Chuck, how have you been feeling in regards to your Dad, you're doing okay?

>

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I just read a study the other day about staph. It basically said that if

children are allowed to fight it w/out antibiotics, their immune systems

will remember it later on and be able to fight it off (kinda like chicken

pox).

-- Re: Chuck

,

Thanks for your concern. I'm doing fine. Now we are finding that what

may have killed him is MRSA, the antibiotic resistant staph that is

becoming an epidemic across the country.

Chuck

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>

>

> Chuck, how have you been feeling in regards to your Dad, you're doing

okay?

>

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That is awesome to know!

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote: I just read a study the

other day about staph. It basically said that if

children are allowed to fight it w/out antibiotics, their immune systems

will remember it later on and be able to fight it off (kinda like chicken

pox).

-- Re: Chuck

,

Thanks for your concern. I'm doing fine. Now we are finding that what

may have killed him is MRSA, the antibiotic resistant staph that is

becoming an epidemic across the country.

Chuck

You wrote:

>

>

> Chuck, how have you been feeling in regards to your Dad, you're doing

okay?

>

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Char,

You wrote:

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> ..now a question...when any of you get just a cold is it 10x's worse

> than a " normal " persons? I have missed two days of work!

No, it only seems that way.

When I was younger, I was always the first one to catch strep each year.

I had the type A when I was 19.

My theory is that if you are ornery enough, you will never catch a cold.

Chuck

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Crystal,

You wrote:

>

>

> I just read a study the other day about staph. It basically said that if

> children are allowed to fight it w/out antibiotics, their immune systems

> will remember it later on and be able to fight it off (kinda like chicken

> pox).

That's why life expectancies were so high prior to the 20th c. :)

Lots of people that fought off chicken pox end up with shingles.

Chuck

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That is exactly what I ended up with. At 8 I got the chicken pox. At 35 I got

something

called Ramsey-Hunt syndrome which is bells palsey plus Shingles. It affected

the right

side of my face as to where it was paralyzed. The shingles affected a nerve in

my ear

which caused the palsey. A very scarey time....I thought I was having a stroke.

Now today

you would never know it to look at me. A large dose of Prednisone helped with

that but I

swore I would never take that drug again in my life.

Venizia

> >

> >

> > I just read a study the other day about staph. It basically said that if

> > children are allowed to fight it w/out antibiotics, their immune systems

> > will remember it later on and be able to fight it off (kinda like chicken

> > pox).

>

> That's why life expectancies were so high prior to the 20th c. :)

>

> Lots of people that fought off chicken pox end up with shingles.

>

> Chuck

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My mother had bell's palsy. How many people who didn't

have the chicken pox vaccine end up with shingles and/or

bell's palsy?

Roni

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That is exactly what I ended up with. At 8 I got the chicken pox. At 35 I got

something

called Ramsey-Hunt syndrome which is bells palsey plus Shingles. It affected the

right

side of my face as to where it was paralyzed. The shingles affected a nerve in

my ear

which caused the palsey. A very scarey time....I thought I was having a stroke.

Now today

you would never know it to look at me. A large dose of Prednisone helped with

that but I

swore I would never take that drug again in my life.

Venizia

> >

> >

> > I just read a study the other day about staph. It basically said that if

> > children are allowed to fight it w/out antibiotics, their immune systems

> > will remember it later on and be able to fight it off (kinda like chicken

> > pox).

>

> That's why life expectancies were so high prior to the 20th c. :)

>

> Lots of people that fought off chicken pox end up with shingles.

>

> Chuck

>

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Maybe one day I too will never call out sick. At least I'm not as sick as I

used to be thanks to some of the natural things I take. No sinus infection in

some time and that's quite the relief. Thanks for the info on the

show...didn't know.

Be blessed al. I'm going back to my corner now. :-)

In a message dated 10/20/2007 12:21:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

circe@... writes:

I don't get sick. I never take off sick days. I have been on high dose

iodine for almost two years.

Gracia

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Roni Molin wrote:

>

>

> My mother had bell's palsy. How many people who didn't

> have the chicken pox vaccine end up with shingles and/or

> bell's palsy?

10-20%. It's higher for compromised immune systems or Hodgkin's.

Chuck

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Wow, I and my two sons all had the chicken pox, and not the vaccine.

Roni

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Roni Molin wrote:

>

>

> My mother had bell's palsy. How many people who didn't

> have the chicken pox vaccine end up with shingles and/or

> bell's palsy?

10-20%. It's higher for compromised immune systems or Hodgkin's.

Chuck

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Oprah already did a show and it was pretty lame. Christianne Northrup MD

made many foolish comments, that we have all heard from docs. Shomon has

a good critique of the show on her site.

I don't get sick. I never take off sick days. I have been on high dose

iodine for almost two years.

Gracia

I think Oprah may end up doing a show on thyroid

disease with all the press she's getting. Just imagine how many others that

aren't in our group have probably contacted her.

Ok...now a question...when any of you get just a cold is it 10x's worse than

a " normal " persons? I have missed two days of work!

Peace.

Char

In a message dated 10/18/2007 10:55:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

gumboyaya@... writes:

,

Thanks for your concern. I'm doing fine. Now we are finding that what

may have killed him is MRSA, the antibiotic resistant staph that is

becoming an epidemic across the country.

Chuck

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Roni,

Sorry, I misread your question. Gotta get these glasses checked!

You wrote:

>

> > My mother had bell's palsy. How many people who didn't

> > have the chicken pox vaccine end up with shingles and/or

> > bell's palsy?

>

My answer gave the numbers for those who DID have chicken pox:

> 10-20%. It's higher for compromised immune systems or Hodgkin's.

>

Without chicken pox, shingles and bell's are essentially impossible.

However, you could get the pox as an adult.

Chuck

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Roni,

Sorry, I am still not functioning.

You wrote:

>

> Wow, I and my two sons all had the chicken pox, and not the vaccine.

>

The vaccine seems to be even more effective than having the pox in

childhood:

http://www.drgreene.org/body.cfm?id=21 & ref=510 & action=detail .

Both provide about 100% lifetime immunity against chicken pox, but the

vaccine also seems to prevent the recurrence forms, including shingles.

Evidently you have to get chicken pox to be at risk for the secondaries.

If you have already had it, the vaccine won't add any protection.

Chuck

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Gracia I guess I was unaware that you had any children or maybe I forgot????

Tell me more!

cw

-- Chuck

I am sorry, I am glad he is doing well, and as you know I share your pain,

angst etc. My son was in another country when he had this done, and I don't

think I could have been there.

I disagree that it has nothing to do with thyroid! I believe it is another

symptom of iodine deficiency.

big hug

Gracia

Venizia,

You wrote:

> ... Thanks for letting me know...,.I would

> have made a fool of myself at the doctors office tomorrow.

Just trying to help. This week I have been " cramming " medical

information at the local CVICU, where my son is recovering from two

heart valve replacements. Nothing to do with the thyroid, but I am

amazed at the changes in technology over the years. My wife and I have

been sharing 24 hour shifts for the last ten days. That may explain my

lack of posting recently. :)

After eight days in ICU, he was moved to a " regular " room last night.

The prognosis is good.

Chuck

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I only have one son, I was very hypo when PG with him and then never could get

pregnant again. :((

He is a very good boy LOL still in school for PhD, speaks several languages.

I know he is hypo/iodine deficient and it will make his life a struggle but on

this one thing he won't listen to me--he doesn't get it. All I want him to do

is take iodine.

Last year he had both heart valves replaced in Germany---good one in bad one's

place and then bad one replaced with piggy valve. It was a special procedure

and his cells are supposed to graft onto or replace pig cells.

I think you have five? kids. you are lucky!

Gracia

Gracia I guess I was unaware that you had any children or maybe I forgot????

Tell me more!

cw

-- Chuck

I am sorry, I am glad he is doing well, and as you know I share your pain,

angst etc. My son was in another country when he had this done, and I don't

think I could have been there.

I disagree that it has nothing to do with thyroid! I believe it is another

symptom of iodine deficiency.

big hug

Gracia

Venizia,

You wrote:

> ... Thanks for letting me know...,.I would

> have made a fool of myself at the doctors office tomorrow.

Just trying to help. This week I have been " cramming " medical

information at the local CVICU, where my son is recovering from two

heart valve replacements. Nothing to do with the thyroid, but I am

amazed at the changes in technology over the years. My wife and I have

been sharing 24 hour shifts for the last ten days. That may explain my

lack of posting recently. :)

After eight days in ICU, he was moved to a " regular " room last night.

The prognosis is good.

Chuck

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Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> I only have one son, ...

> I think you have five? kids. you are lucky!...

I remember your concerns and stress when your son had the surgery in Europe. We

had no idea at the time that we would soon be facing a very similar challenge.

Mike had the additional difficulty of removing " adhesions " from the two previous

open heart procedures. That added about four hours to the surgeon's work.

I have three kids, four grand kids, none with hypoT indications, yet.

Chuck

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Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> I only have one son, ...

> I think you have five? kids. you are lucky!...

I remember your concerns and stress when your son had the surgery in Europe. We

had no idea at the time that we would soon be facing a very similar challenge.

Mike had the additional difficulty of removing " adhesions " from the two previous

open heart procedures. That added about four hours to the surgeon's work.

I have three kids, four grand kids, none with hypoT indications, yet.

Chuck

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Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> I only have one son, ...

> I think you have five? kids. you are lucky!...

I remember your concerns and stress when your son had the surgery in Europe. We

had no idea at the time that we would soon be facing a very similar challenge.

Mike had the additional difficulty of removing " adhesions " from the two previous

open heart procedures. That added about four hours to the surgeon's work.

I have three kids, four grand kids, none with hypoT indications, yet.

Chuck

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Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> I only have one son, ...

> I think you have five? kids. you are lucky!...

I remember your concerns and stress when your son had the surgery in Europe. We

had no idea at the time that we would soon be facing a very similar challenge.

Mike had the additional difficulty of removing " adhesions " from the two previous

open heart procedures. That added about four hours to the surgeon's work.

I have three kids, four grand kids, none with hypoT indications, yet.

Chuck

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Chuck

I think it would be interesting to compare the cost of your son's

hospitalization here in US, vs my son's in Germany. I assume insurance covers

a certain amount? I will ask Colin if he paid anything (but I don't think so).

I think he pays every month for insurance though.

Gracia

Heidi,

You wrote:

> ... (I hope your son is doing better.)

Thanks, he is. The parade of nurses and therapists will take a break

tomorrow, so we are planning on serious down time. The lawn may even get

mowed!

> ... Anatomy/ Physiology, right?

Perhaps just Shomon for now. :)

http://thyroid.about.com/mbiopage.htm

I sometimes question her details, but she is usually pretty up front

about what is controversial and what is well established.

Chuck

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