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Well, here it is............

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miracle they are able to still be standing let alone defend their country.

Why are they being treated like this?

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Hi kaye

Please do not talk about religeon in this group. Please stay on the topic of

cancer. By the way here attached please find where your FAQ is skewed.

Some Facts About Islam and Prophet Mohammad

Koran which most Moslems call it Prophet Mohammed's only miracle was written

by Osman sixty years following the death of the Prophet. Therefore, the

Holly book of Koran is nothing but a collection of " I heard him say " .

All my life I was told that Mohammad, who was illiterate, went to a mountain

and when he came out he had written Koran. Researching this incredible

miracle I realized that it was the biggest lie ever told. I believe a

person's action is more important than his words.

The Prophet ,protector of women and the human rights advocate, at age

Twenty-five (25) married his boss, a forty (40) year old rich woman named

Khadijeh, after she proposed to him. They had four daughters together but we

know a lot about one daughter named Fatemeh. When Khadijeh died Mohammad at

age fifty-six asked to marry Ayesha, daughter of his friend and first

follower Abobakr. She was seven years old.

Abobakr requested from the Prophet to wait till she reached the age nine

before consummating their marriage. So at age fifty-Eight the great Prophet,

the defender of women's rights raped a nine year old child. This is wrong

today and it was wrong then.

That is the reason for marriage age for girls age is nine years old (and

sometimes younger in Islam).

Then Prophet Mohammad had sex with anywhere between 29 to 45 more women in

harems. According to Ebn Abbas, " The highest member of Moslems who is the

Prophet Mohammed has also the highest appetite for women. "

In another place God told Mohammad that " we have made such women available

to you without any payment to them, these are all your cousins, slave women

and any Moslem woman who would like to give you herself free of charge. " So

slavery at least for women was quite common.

Prophet Mohammad even asked his own adopted son, Zaid Ebn Hares, to divorce

his wife, Zeinab, so that he could marry her. When the members of tribe

protested this marriage, because the daughter-in-law was considered like

one's daughter. Mohammed answered that he received a revelation from God,

that " A Moslem man cannot adopt another man's child. " Hence Hares was not

his real son, therefore he could marry his adopted son's wife.

When Mohammad and his wife Khadijeh adopted Zaid they were not Moslem.

Prophet must obey God's word and therefore, Zaid is not his son and Zeinab

is not his daughter-in-law (according to Mohammad). That is why adoption is

prohibited in Islam.

According to Koran, a collection of " I heard him say " : " Your wives are your

tillage, go in unto your tillage in what manner so ever you will. "

And in another place it says " Good women are obedient, as for those from

whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and

scourge them. "

Please muslims don't give me the common reply by orthodox Moslems that the

word " scourge " is only one translation for the word, dharaba (beat), used in

Koran, which " could " also mean " strike with feather. " This is the most

preposterous answer.

Does it make any sense that if a woman disobeys her husband, she first gets

a warning and if the rebellion continues she is kicked out of her bedroom,

and then right at the end the husband comes and starts beating his wife with

feather?

Wasn't there a more caressing word in Arabic than the word which could be

translated as " scourge " .

Prophet married one of his daughters to Abobakr. After she died while being

punished for disobedience. Prophet married another daughter to Abobakr.

For centuries the Mullah were opposed the translation of Koran in any other

language. They said that Arabic was the language of God, and Koran must be

read in Arabic. The reason was to hide the truth.

That is why every time a Moslem is questioned his answer is that Koran has

been misinterpreted. What kind a book is this that can be misinterpreted so

easily and widely?

Why haven't all these Islamic scholars been able in 1400 years to get

together and interpret this book so that everyone agrees with what was said

and who said it?

Women cannot drive in Saudi Arabia, and in Afghanistan the Talibans closed

all girl's schools and fired all the women from their jobs.

Women in Islamic nations are living in subhuman conditions and you call it

protection. Protection from what? Protection from men like the Prophet who

had no sexual tolerance toward women and if he liked them he must have them?

It is widely rumored that it is stated in ahadith (life stories of Prophet

Mohammad) that " It is un-Islamic to beat a woman, a child, or a weaker

person. " This statement is again used to believe that women are weaker than

men. It has been proven by the world wars, Medical science, and history of

mankind that women are the stronger sex.

In another place it is stated that " The role of the woman is to raise family

and mostly they are not exposed to the outside world. "

Why? Just because women carry the fetus in their womb does not mean that

they are responsible for taking care of children. There is nothing

instinctive about changing diapers.

No, men just didn't want to do domestic work and came up with this nonsense

that God wanted it this way.

Why, did God hate women?

Frequently Asked Questions

FAQ about Islam

(Frequently Asked Questions)

Who is Allah?

Allah means God. It is a personal name, which Allah calls Himself in the

Koran. That is where we get it. It can also be found in an Aramaic copy of

the Bible, and even Christian Arabs say Allah.

Who is Jesus to us?

Jesus peace be upon Him is a true prophet. Sent by Allah like Moses,

Abraham, Lot, Noah, Jonah, ph .etc.

Who were Jesus's parents?

Jesus is the son of Virgin , and he had no father. Allah created Jesus.

Can Jesus, or Mohammed peace be upon them be worshipped?

No, Allah does not accept that a cow, a person, an angel, a prophet, a

stone, or anything be worshipped in place of him, or even along with Him.

Worship must be to Allah the creator of them.

Is Allah the same as what Christians call the father?

Allah is the creator who Jesus worshipped. He is the Creator who spoke to

Moses, and split the sea for Moses, and his followers. That is Allah. But

Allah tells us: " Say Allah is one, He is Perfect, He has never begotten, nor

was He begott, and there is no one equal to Him " .

Is there a trinity in Islam?

No. Allah is perfect.

Do we believe that Allah created the heavens and earth in 6 days?

Yes, but He did not rest on the seventh day, because He did not get tired.

Allah is perfect He does not get tired, nor does He sleep, eat, go to the

bathroom, feel pain, or die for that matter.

Can we see Allah?

Allah is not like the sun. Anyone can see the Sun. But Allah is the most

beautiful. Nothing is as beautiful as Allah. Actually looking at Allah is

the greatest pleasure of the people in Pradise. This pleasure Allah does not

give anyone but the believers. So no one will see Allah before he dies.

Does Allah see us?

Allah sees us, and knows everything about us. He knows us better than we

know ourselves. There is not a leaf on a tree that blows away, or stays in

its place except that He knows it. There is not a dry spot, nor a wet spot,

nor a grain in the depths of the earth except that Allah knows it.

Do we have free will?

Yes, of course. Allah does not punish us for something we did not do on our

own. But at the same time, our will is not inspire of Allah's will. We

cannot do anything if Allah will not allow it. In other words nothing goes

on in Allah's kingdom without His will.

Did Allah create Evil?

Yes, Allah created the good, and the bad. Whatever bad happens to us is due

to our sins. We sin and Allah pardons much of what we do; however, when

something bad happens to us it is our fault, and we are to blame. Bad things

that happen to a person are a chance for that person to reflect, and ask:

" Why is this happening to me? " A chance for a person to return from his sin,

and obey, and worship Allah.

Do bad things happen to the believers (good people)?

Yes, they do. But they appear bad to the believers cause they are things

people don't like. Who likes breaking a leg? However, when a bad thing

happens to a believer this believer is patient. He praises Allah in all

circumstances. He knows Allah does not decree something unless it is for his

own good.

But how can breaking a leg are good for a beleiver?

Because it is a chance for the believer to think about what he did wrong.

Also because Allah forgives much of what we do, but those things we are not

forgiven, they are forgiven due to our patience when we are struck by a

calamity. Allah gives us better reward when a problem strikes us on earth if

we are patient. This reward can be on earth, and it can be in Heaven.

Does Allah hear my prayers?

Yes.

Does Allah answer my prayers?

We know that Allah answers all the prayers of the believers. This can be in

4 ways:

1- Get what we are asking for!

2- Get something as good or better!

3- We get spared something bad that would have happened otherwise.

4- We get rewarded on the day of Judgment with a much greater reward than

what we were asking for on earth.

When does Allah not answer our prayers?

* When it is bad for us!

* When we ask, but not from our heart!

* When we say: I asked and asked and He did not answer.

* When we eat, drink, and wear unlawful, food, and clothes, and property

that wa earned either through interest from the bank, or that was stolen, or

if the food was pork, or the like.

What can I ask of Allah?

Any thing but don't ask Him to do things like make you a prophet. Cause He

has already said that there will be no more prophets.

You can ask Allah for guidance. Meaning you can ask Him to show you the

correct religion.

Who are my best friends?

Your best friends are the ones that care where you go after you are dead.

This is like the prophets. They cared that we go to heaven, even if it meant

some hardship on earth.

Who is my worst enemy?

That would be the devils, whether they are human devils (evil people), or

Jinn devils (like Iblis) The Arabic word for a devil is Shaytan (similar to

Satan). Satan wants us all to go to hell. He wants us to be bad on earth,

even if we get rich, or do lots of wrong things that we appear to enjoy, he

does not mind that. But he wants to make sure we don't go to heaven.

What is it that keeps us from entering Heaven?

Worship of anyone other than Allah is the greatest sin. It is called shirk,

and this is not forgiven except through repentance.

Where is Allah?

Allah is the highest. He is high above ALL of His creation. He is ascended

upon a Throne, which is greater than the heavens, and the Earth. Much much

much greater than the heavens and the earth. So much greater that the

heavens and the earth could fit in the footstool of the throne, and they

would be like a ring thrown into an open desert. Allah is certainly the

greatest.

Does Allah look like us?

No Allah is perfect. He is not like any of His creation. He has told us that

He has Hands, Eyes, a Face, and Foot. But all of these attributes are

befitting to His might and Glory.

A Muslim does not say a single thing about Allah other than what Allah says

about Himself. We don't say He is like a clover, He got tired, He is

Jealous!

Allah is Perfect, and Unique.

What does it mean to believe in Allah?

It means to believe in Allah in total perfection, and uniqueness.

It means to believe in His prophets cause they are His, and He sent them. We

cannot pick and choose. A Muslim must believe in all the prophets of Allah.

It means to believe in the Angles! We must love them all, we cannot hate an

Angel say, for example, to hate who is charged with rain, and the

vegetation of the Earth, or who is charged with revelation (brings

down the scriptures to the prophets).

It means to believe in Allah's predestination of good, and bad (relative to

us, but to Allah everything Allah does is good).

It means to believe in the last day: The day of Judgment.

When is the Day of Judgment?

Only Allah knows.

Are there signs for the day of Judgment?

Plenty, plenty, plenty. Many have already occurred.

To name a few,

Objects will begin to talk.

There will be much killing. The killer won't know why he killed, and the guy

that was killed won't know why he was killed.

The Antichrist will come.

Prophet Jesus son of will return.

Gog and Magog will be set free.

The sun will rise from the west (after this one there can be no more

repentance) What about non-Muslims do they go to heaven?

Allah only accepts Islam. He says in the Koran: " Whoever seeks a religion

other than Islam it won't be accepted of him, and he will be one of the

loosers in the hereafter " . I would rather loose anywhere, but not loose in

the hereafter. This is because Hellfire is eternal. It never ends, and we

never die when we go there, if we go there.

What about someone who never heard of Islam?

Allah is the most just. Don't even think that we can be nicer than Allah.

Allah is the Most Just, and He said in the Koran " We were not to punish till

having sent a warner " . The " We " here is the majestic we used in Arabic. So

if a person never heard about Islam, and was never warned clearly Allah

would have a special test for that person that He knows is equal to the

chance that person would have had on earth.

How do we know Islam is the truth?

It is the only religion that:

1- Hold Allah as One, Unique, and Perfect.

2- A lonly worship of Allah, not Jesus, not an idol, and not an angel only

Allah.

3- The Koran does not contain contradictions.

4- The Koran contains scientific facts, which are 1300 years ahead of their

time. The Koran while revealed 1400 years ago contains scientific facts,

which are only now being discovered. It is not in contradiction to science.

5- Allah challenges the world to produce the like of the Koran. And He says

they won't be able to.

6- Prophet Mohammed was the most influential man in History. Even a

non-Muslim wrote a book called the 100 most influential men in History, and

Prophet Mohammed was #1. Prophet Jesus was #3. Note even Prophet Jesus was a

prophet sent by Allah. Would Allah allow a false prophet to be so

successful? No. Even the Bible says this in Deuteronomy 18:19. A false

prophet would die!!! Yet Prophet Mohammed did not die till he completely

conveyed, and taught Allah's religion.

7- He had many prophecies, and all of his prophecies have come true, or are

still coming true.

Most importantly is this:

Allah created us, and we know that we should only worship Him. This is an

instinct Allah has created us with. He did not just leave us, rather He sent

prophets for us. These prophets had miracles as proof. The miracle for us

today is the Koran. There is no other religion that worships only Allah, and

believes in Him as totally perfect, and believes in all of His prophets, and

scriptures.

Can anyone become a Muslim?

Yes anyone can. There are two declarations, which are necessary:

1- To bear witness that no one deserves to be worship except Allah

2- To bear witness that Prophet Mohammed is the Messenger of Allah.

This makes a person Muslim. But it should be said in Arabic. Next a person

takes a shower, and He/She is a Muslim.

Then What?

After a person becomes Muslim he/she is taught about Prayers, Fasting, the

Poor due, Pilgrimage. These are pillars of Islam.

Then What?

Muslims are brothers. A Muslim should love for his brother what he loves for

himself. Allah's wealth does not run out, and Allah can provide for us all.

We pray for each other, and love each other, and love for our brothers and

sisters what we love for ourselves.

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FAQ about Islam

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their ankle shows.

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Where Are the " Some Facts About Islam and Prophet Mohammad " ?????

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The Teachings Of Islam

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For several years, there has been a growing trend towards ecumenism. During

the tribulation hour, a global religious system will be established, and all

the world's major religions will be united under the rule of the Antichrist.

Right now, the devil is working hard to build a foundation to facilitate

that

eventual unity.

Christianity by its nature is not compatible with any other religion. Jesus

said, " I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,

but by me " ( 14:6). The Lord didn't say, " I am one way among many. "

I maintain that Islam is itself incompatible with Christianity. Western

liberal scholars do their best to promote the idea that Islam means peace

and love,

but they can't hide the vengeful and perverted teachings easily found in

Islamic writings. The following is a list of quotes from the Koran and other

Islamic

holy books that clearly speak for themselves.

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" They say, 'Accept the Jewish or the Christian faith and you shall be

rightly guided.' Say, 'By no means! We believe in the faith of Abraham, the

upright

one. He was no idolater.' " (Surah 2:135)

" The only true faith in God's sight is Islam. " (Surah 3:19)

" Say, 'Obey Allah and the apostle.' If they give no heed, then truly, Allah

does not love the unbelievers. " (Surah 3:29)

" If you fear that you cannot treat orphans with fairness, then you may marry

other women that seem good to you: two, three or four of them. " (Surah 4:1)

" Try as you may, you cannot treat all your wives impartially. " (Surah 4:3)

" Men take authority over women... As for those who are disobedient, admonish

them and send them to beds apart and beat them. " (Surah 4:34)

" Believers, do not approach your prayers when you are drunk, but wait till

you can grasp the meaning of your words... " (Surah 4:43)

" Will they not ponder on the Koran? if it had not come from God, they could

have surely found in it many contradictions. " (Surah 4:82)

" Seek out your enemies relentlessly. " (Surah 4:104)

" They denied the truth and uttered a monstrous falsehood against . they

declared: 'We have put to death the Messiah, Jesus the son of , the

apostle

of God.' they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but they thought

they did...they did not slay him for certain. God lifted him up to him... "

(Surah

4:157-158)

" The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved

ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins? " (Surah 5:18)

" Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. " (Surah 5:51)

" Unbelievers are those who say: 'God is one of three.' There is but one God.

If they do not desist from so saying, those of them that disbelieve shall be

sternly punished. " (Surah 5:73)

" The God will say: 'Jesus, son of , did you ever say to mankind 'Worship

me and my mother as gods besides God?' 'Glory to You, 'he will answer, 'how

could I ever say that to which I have no right? " (Surah 5:116)

" If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by

breaking off your treaty with them. " (Surah 9:12)

" Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and

Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. "

(Surah

9:29)

" The Christians say: The Christ is the son of Allah; these are the words of

their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may

Allah

destroy them. " (Sura 9:30)

" Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously

with them. Hell shall be their home. " (Surah 9:73)

" And say: All praise is due to Allah, WHO HAS NOT TAKEN A SON and WHO HAS

NOT A PARTNER in the kingdom. " (Sura 17.111)

" 'How shall I bear a child,' she [] answered, 'when I am a virgin...?'

'Such is the will of the Lord,' he replied. 'That is no difficult thing for

Him...God

forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!...Those who say: 'The Lord

of Mercy has begotten a son,' preach a monstrous falsehood... " (Surah

19:20-21,

29, 88-89)

" NEVER DID ALLAH TAKE TO HIMSELF A SON, and never was there with him any

(other) god . . . " (Sura 23:91)

" Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the

unbelievers but merciful to one another. " (Surah 48:29)

" The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until the Moslems make war against

the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and

the

rock and tree will say: 'Oh Moslem, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew

behind me, come and kill him!' " (Sahih Bukhari 004.52.176)

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> FAQ about Islam

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> Who is Allah?

> Allah means God. It is a personal name, which Allah calls Himself in the

Koran. That is where we get it. It can also be found in an Aramaic copy of

the Bible, and even Christian Arabs say Allah.

> Who is Jesus to us?

> Jesus peace be upon Him is a true prophet. Sent by Allah like Moses,

Abraham, Lot, Noah, Jonah, ph .etc.

> Who were Jesus's parents?

> Jesus is the son of Virgin , and he had no father. Allah created

Jesus.

> Can Jesus, or Mohammed peace be upon them be worshipped?

> No, Allah does not accept that a cow, a person, an angel, a prophet, a

stone, or anything be worshipped in place of him, or even along with Him.

Worship must be to Allah the creator of them.

> Is Allah the same as what Christians call the father?

> Allah is the creator who Jesus worshipped. He is the Creator who spoke to

Moses, and split the sea for Moses, and his followers. That is Allah. But

Allah tells us: " Say Allah is one, He is Perfect, He has never begotten, nor

was He begott, and there is no one equal to Him " .

> Is there a trinity in Islam?

> No. Allah is perfect.

> Do we believe that Allah created the heavens and earth in 6 days?

> Yes, but He did not rest on the seventh day, because He did not get tired.

Allah is perfect He does not get tired, nor does He sleep, eat, go to the

bathroom, feel pain, or die for that matter.

> Can we see Allah?

> Allah is not like the sun. Anyone can see the Sun. But Allah is the most

beautiful. Nothing is as beautiful as Allah. Actually looking at Allah is

the greatest pleasure of the people in Pradise. This pleasure Allah does not

give anyone but the believers. So no one will see Allah before he dies.

> Does Allah see us?

> Allah sees us, and knows everything about us. He knows us better than we

know ourselves. There is not a leaf on a tree that blows away, or stays in

its place except that He knows it. There is not a dry spot, nor a wet spot,

nor a grain in the depths of the earth except that Allah knows it.

> Do we have free will?

> Yes, of course. Allah does not punish us for something we did not do on

our own. But at the same time, our will is not inspire of Allah's will. We

cannot do anything if Allah will not allow it. In other words nothing goes

on in Allah's kingdom without His will.

> Did Allah create Evil?

> Yes, Allah created the good, and the bad. Whatever bad happens to us is

due to our sins. We sin and Allah pardons much of what we do; however, when

something bad happens to us it is our fault, and we are to blame. Bad things

that happen to a person are a chance for that person to reflect, and ask:

" Why is this happening to me? " A chance for a person to return from his sin,

and obey, and worship Allah.

> Do bad things happen to the believers (good people)?

> Yes, they do. But they appear bad to the believers cause they are things

people don't like. Who likes breaking a leg? However, when a bad thing

happens to a believer this believer is patient. He praises Allah in all

circumstances. He knows Allah does not decree something unless it is for his

own good.

> But how can breaking a leg are good for a beleiver?

> Because it is a chance for the believer to think about what he did wrong.

> Also because Allah forgives much of what we do, but those things we are

not forgiven, they are forgiven due to our patience when we are struck by a

calamity. Allah gives us better reward when a problem strikes us on earth if

we are patient. This reward can be on earth, and it can be in Heaven.

> Does Allah hear my prayers?

> Yes.

> Does Allah answer my prayers?

> We know that Allah answers all the prayers of the believers. This can be

in 4 ways:

> 1- Get what we are asking for!

> 2- Get something as good or better!

> 3- We get spared something bad that would have happened otherwise.

> 4- We get rewarded on the day of Judgment with a much greater reward than

what we were asking for on earth.

> When does Allah not answer our prayers?

> * When it is bad for us!

> * When we ask, but not from our heart!

> * When we say: I asked and asked and He did not answer.

> * When we eat, drink, and wear unlawful, food, and clothes, and property

that wa earned either through interest from the bank, or that was stolen, or

if the food was pork, or the like.

> What can I ask of Allah?

> Any thing but don't ask Him to do things like make you a prophet. Cause He

has already said that there will be no more prophets.

> You can ask Allah for guidance. Meaning you can ask Him to show you the

correct religion.

> Who are my best friends?

> Your best friends are the ones that care where you go after you are dead.

This is like the prophets. They cared that we go to heaven, even if it meant

some hardship on earth.

> Who is my worst enemy?

> That would be the devils, whether they are human devils (evil people), or

Jinn devils (like Iblis) The Arabic word for a devil is Shaytan (similar to

Satan). Satan wants us all to go to hell. He wants us to be bad on earth,

even if we get rich, or do lots of wrong things that we appear to enjoy, he

does not mind that. But he wants to make sure we don't go to heaven.

> What is it that keeps us from entering Heaven?

> Worship of anyone other than Allah is the greatest sin. It is called

shirk, and this is not forgiven except through repentance.

> Where is Allah?

> Allah is the highest. He is high above ALL of His creation. He is ascended

upon a Throne, which is greater than the heavens, and the Earth. Much much

much greater than the heavens and the earth. So much greater that the

heavens and the earth could fit in the footstool of the throne, and they

would be like a ring thrown into an open desert. Allah is certainly the

greatest.

> Does Allah look like us?

> No Allah is perfect. He is not like any of His creation. He has told us

that He has Hands, Eyes, a Face, and Foot. But all of these attributes are

befitting to His might and Glory.

> A Muslim does not say a single thing about Allah other than what Allah

says about Himself. We don't say He is like a clover, He got tired, He is

Jealous!

> Allah is Perfect, and Unique.

> What does it mean to believe in Allah?

> It means to believe in Allah in total perfection, and uniqueness.

> It means to believe in His prophets cause they are His, and He sent them.

We cannot pick and choose. A Muslim must believe in all the prophets of

Allah.

> It means to believe in the Angles! We must love them all, we cannot hate

an Angel say, for example, to hate who is charged with rain, and the

vegetation of the Earth, or who is charged with revelation (brings

down the scriptures to the prophets).

> It means to believe in Allah's predestination of good, and bad (relative

to us, but to Allah everything Allah does is good).

> It means to believe in the last day: The day of Judgment.

> When is the Day of Judgment?

> Only Allah knows.

> Are there signs for the day of Judgment?

> Plenty, plenty, plenty. Many have already occurred.

> To name a few,

> Objects will begin to talk.

> There will be much killing. The killer won't know why he killed, and the

guy that was killed won't know why he was killed.

> The Antichrist will come.

> Prophet Jesus son of will return.

> Gog and Magog will be set free.

> The sun will rise from the west (after this one there can be no more

repentance)

> What about non-Muslims do they go to heaven?

> Allah only accepts Islam. He says in the Koran: " Whoever seeks a religion

other than Islam it won't be accepted of him, and he will be one of the

loosers in the hereafter " . I would rather loose anywhere, but not loose in

the hereafter. This is because Hellfire is eternal. It never ends, and we

never die when we go there, if we go there.

> What about someone who never heard of Islam?

> Allah is the most just. Don't even think that we can be nicer than Allah.

Allah is the Most Just, and He said in the Koran " We were not to punish till

having sent a warner " . The " We " here is the majestic we used in Arabic. So

if a person never heard about Islam, and was never warned clearly Allah

would have a special test for that person that He knows is equal to the

chance that person would have had on earth.

> How do we know Islam is the truth?

> It is the only religion that:

> 1- Hold Allah as One, Unique, and Perfect.

> 2- A lonly worship of Allah, not Jesus, not an idol, and not an angel only

Allah.

> 3- The Koran does not contain contradictions.

> 4- The Koran contains scientific facts, which are 1300 years ahead of

their time. The Koran while revealed 1400 years ago contains scientific

facts, which are only now being discovered. It is not in contradiction to

science.

> 5- Allah challenges the world to produce the like of the Koran. And He

says they won't be able to.

> 6- Prophet Mohammed was the most influential man in History. Even a

non-Muslim wrote a book called the 100 most influential men in History, and

Prophet Mohammed was #1. Prophet Jesus was #3. Note even Prophet Jesus was a

prophet sent by Allah. Would Allah allow a false prophet to be so

successful? No. Even the Bible says this in Deuteronomy 18:19. A false

prophet would die!!! Yet Prophet Mohammed did not die till he completely

conveyed, and taught Allah's religion.

> 7- He had many prophecies, and all of his prophecies have come true, or

are still coming true.

> Most importantly is this:

> Allah created us, and we know that we should only worship Him. This is an

instinct Allah has created us with. He did not just leave us, rather He sent

prophets for us. These prophets had miracles as proof. The miracle for us

today is the Koran. There is no other religion that worships only Allah, and

believes in Him as totally perfect, and believes in all of His prophets, and

scriptures.

> Can anyone become a Muslim?

> Yes anyone can. There are two declarations, which are necessary:

> 1- To bear witness that no one deserves to be worship except Allah

> 2- To bear witness that Prophet Mohammed is the Messenger of Allah.

> This makes a person Muslim. But it should be said in Arabic. Next a person

takes a shower, and He/She is a Muslim.

> Then What?

> After a person becomes Muslim he/she is taught about Prayers, Fasting, the

Poor due, Pilgrimage. These are pillars of Islam.

> Then What?

> Muslims are brothers. A Muslim should love for his brother what he loves

for himself. Allah's wealth does not run out, and Allah can provide for us

all. We pray for each other, and love each other, and love for our brothers

and sisters what we love for ourselves.

>

>

>

> For more information about Islam:

> http://www.geocities.com/toislamways/new3.html

>

> To contact us:

> iaslamq_a@...

>

> To Request Free Islamic Books & Resources:

> imanwayibaw@...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know. Ask Dawn. She started the thread.

I'm afraid I'm cluless too, but since the subject came up, thought I'd state

my views as well.

Thea

Frequently Asked Questions

>

>

> > FAQ about Islam

> > (Frequently Asked Questions)

> > Who is Allah?

> > Allah means God. It is a personal name, which Allah calls Himself in the

> Koran. That is where we get it. It can also be found in an Aramaic copy of

> the Bible, and even Christian Arabs say Allah.

> > Who is Jesus to us?

> > Jesus peace be upon Him is a true prophet. Sent by Allah like Moses,

> Abraham, Lot, Noah, Jonah, ph .etc.

> > Who were Jesus's parents?

> > Jesus is the son of Virgin , and he had no father. Allah created

> Jesus.

> > Can Jesus, or Mohammed peace be upon them be worshipped?

> > No, Allah does not accept that a cow, a person, an angel, a prophet, a

> stone, or anything be worshipped in place of him, or even along with Him.

> Worship must be to Allah the creator of them.

> > Is Allah the same as what Christians call the father?

> > Allah is the creator who Jesus worshipped. He is the Creator who spoke

to

> Moses, and split the sea for Moses, and his followers. That is Allah. But

> Allah tells us: " Say Allah is one, He is Perfect, He has never begotten,

nor

> was He begott, and there is no one equal to Him " .

> > Is there a trinity in Islam?

> > No. Allah is perfect.

> > Do we believe that Allah created the heavens and earth in 6 days?

> > Yes, but He did not rest on the seventh day, because He did not get

tired.

> Allah is perfect He does not get tired, nor does He sleep, eat, go to the

> bathroom, feel pain, or die for that matter.

> > Can we see Allah?

> > Allah is not like the sun. Anyone can see the Sun. But Allah is the most

> beautiful. Nothing is as beautiful as Allah. Actually looking at Allah is

> the greatest pleasure of the people in Pradise. This pleasure Allah does

not

> give anyone but the believers. So no one will see Allah before he dies.

> > Does Allah see us?

> > Allah sees us, and knows everything about us. He knows us better than we

> know ourselves. There is not a leaf on a tree that blows away, or stays in

> its place except that He knows it. There is not a dry spot, nor a wet

spot,

> nor a grain in the depths of the earth except that Allah knows it.

> > Do we have free will?

> > Yes, of course. Allah does not punish us for something we did not do on

> our own. But at the same time, our will is not inspire of Allah's will. We

> cannot do anything if Allah will not allow it. In other words nothing goes

> on in Allah's kingdom without His will.

> > Did Allah create Evil?

> > Yes, Allah created the good, and the bad. Whatever bad happens to us is

> due to our sins. We sin and Allah pardons much of what we do; however,

when

> something bad happens to us it is our fault, and we are to blame. Bad

things

> that happen to a person are a chance for that person to reflect, and ask:

> " Why is this happening to me? " A chance for a person to return from his

sin,

> and obey, and worship Allah.

> > Do bad things happen to the believers (good people)?

> > Yes, they do. But they appear bad to the believers cause they are things

> people don't like. Who likes breaking a leg? However, when a bad thing

> happens to a believer this believer is patient. He praises Allah in all

> circumstances. He knows Allah does not decree something unless it is for

his

> own good.

> > But how can breaking a leg are good for a beleiver?

> > Because it is a chance for the believer to think about what he did

wrong.

> > Also because Allah forgives much of what we do, but those things we are

> not forgiven, they are forgiven due to our patience when we are struck by

a

> calamity. Allah gives us better reward when a problem strikes us on earth

if

> we are patient. This reward can be on earth, and it can be in Heaven.

> > Does Allah hear my prayers?

> > Yes.

> > Does Allah answer my prayers?

> > We know that Allah answers all the prayers of the believers. This can be

> in 4 ways:

> > 1- Get what we are asking for!

> > 2- Get something as good or better!

> > 3- We get spared something bad that would have happened otherwise.

> > 4- We get rewarded on the day of Judgment with a much greater reward

than

> what we were asking for on earth.

> > When does Allah not answer our prayers?

> > * When it is bad for us!

> > * When we ask, but not from our heart!

> > * When we say: I asked and asked and He did not answer.

> > * When we eat, drink, and wear unlawful, food, and clothes, and property

> that wa earned either through interest from the bank, or that was stolen,

or

> if the food was pork, or the like.

> > What can I ask of Allah?

> > Any thing but don't ask Him to do things like make you a prophet. Cause

He

> has already said that there will be no more prophets.

> > You can ask Allah for guidance. Meaning you can ask Him to show you the

> correct religion.

> > Who are my best friends?

> > Your best friends are the ones that care where you go after you are

dead.

> This is like the prophets. They cared that we go to heaven, even if it

meant

> some hardship on earth.

> > Who is my worst enemy?

> > That would be the devils, whether they are human devils (evil people),

or

> Jinn devils (like Iblis) The Arabic word for a devil is Shaytan (similar

to

> Satan). Satan wants us all to go to hell. He wants us to be bad on earth,

> even if we get rich, or do lots of wrong things that we appear to enjoy,

he

> does not mind that. But he wants to make sure we don't go to heaven.

> > What is it that keeps us from entering Heaven?

> > Worship of anyone other than Allah is the greatest sin. It is called

> shirk, and this is not forgiven except through repentance.

> > Where is Allah?

> > Allah is the highest. He is high above ALL of His creation. He is

ascended

> upon a Throne, which is greater than the heavens, and the Earth. Much much

> much greater than the heavens and the earth. So much greater that the

> heavens and the earth could fit in the footstool of the throne, and they

> would be like a ring thrown into an open desert. Allah is certainly the

> greatest.

> > Does Allah look like us?

> > No Allah is perfect. He is not like any of His creation. He has told us

> that He has Hands, Eyes, a Face, and Foot. But all of these attributes are

> befitting to His might and Glory.

> > A Muslim does not say a single thing about Allah other than what Allah

> says about Himself. We don't say He is like a clover, He got tired, He is

> Jealous!

> > Allah is Perfect, and Unique.

> > What does it mean to believe in Allah?

> > It means to believe in Allah in total perfection, and uniqueness.

> > It means to believe in His prophets cause they are His, and He sent

them.

> We cannot pick and choose. A Muslim must believe in all the prophets of

> Allah.

> > It means to believe in the Angles! We must love them all, we cannot hate

> an Angel say, for example, to hate who is charged with rain, and

the

> vegetation of the Earth, or who is charged with revelation (brings

> down the scriptures to the prophets).

> > It means to believe in Allah's predestination of good, and bad (relative

> to us, but to Allah everything Allah does is good).

> > It means to believe in the last day: The day of Judgment.

> > When is the Day of Judgment?

> > Only Allah knows.

> > Are there signs for the day of Judgment?

> > Plenty, plenty, plenty. Many have already occurred.

> > To name a few,

> > Objects will begin to talk.

> > There will be much killing. The killer won't know why he killed, and the

> guy that was killed won't know why he was killed.

> > The Antichrist will come.

> > Prophet Jesus son of will return.

> > Gog and Magog will be set free.

> > The sun will rise from the west (after this one there can be no more

> repentance)

> > What about non-Muslims do they go to heaven?

> > Allah only accepts Islam. He says in the Koran: " Whoever seeks a

religion

> other than Islam it won't be accepted of him, and he will be one of the

> loosers in the hereafter " . I would rather loose anywhere, but not loose in

> the hereafter. This is because Hellfire is eternal. It never ends, and we

> never die when we go there, if we go there.

> > What about someone who never heard of Islam?

> > Allah is the most just. Don't even think that we can be nicer than

Allah.

> Allah is the Most Just, and He said in the Koran " We were not to punish

till

> having sent a warner " . The " We " here is the majestic we used in Arabic. So

> if a person never heard about Islam, and was never warned clearly Allah

> would have a special test for that person that He knows is equal to the

> chance that person would have had on earth.

> > How do we know Islam is the truth?

> > It is the only religion that:

> > 1- Hold Allah as One, Unique, and Perfect.

> > 2- A lonly worship of Allah, not Jesus, not an idol, and not an angel

only

> Allah.

> > 3- The Koran does not contain contradictions.

> > 4- The Koran contains scientific facts, which are 1300 years ahead of

> their time. The Koran while revealed 1400 years ago contains scientific

> facts, which are only now being discovered. It is not in contradiction to

> science.

> > 5- Allah challenges the world to produce the like of the Koran. And He

> says they won't be able to.

> > 6- Prophet Mohammed was the most influential man in History. Even a

> non-Muslim wrote a book called the 100 most influential men in History,

and

> Prophet Mohammed was #1. Prophet Jesus was #3. Note even Prophet Jesus was

a

> prophet sent by Allah. Would Allah allow a false prophet to be so

> successful? No. Even the Bible says this in Deuteronomy 18:19. A false

> prophet would die!!! Yet Prophet Mohammed did not die till he completely

> conveyed, and taught Allah's religion.

> > 7- He had many prophecies, and all of his prophecies have come true, or

> are still coming true.

> > Most importantly is this:

> > Allah created us, and we know that we should only worship Him. This is

an

> instinct Allah has created us with. He did not just leave us, rather He

sent

> prophets for us. These prophets had miracles as proof. The miracle for us

> today is the Koran. There is no other religion that worships only Allah,

and

> believes in Him as totally perfect, and believes in all of His prophets,

and

> scriptures.

> > Can anyone become a Muslim?

> > Yes anyone can. There are two declarations, which are necessary:

> > 1- To bear witness that no one deserves to be worship except Allah

> > 2- To bear witness that Prophet Mohammed is the Messenger of Allah.

> > This makes a person Muslim. But it should be said in Arabic. Next a

person

> takes a shower, and He/She is a Muslim.

> > Then What?

> > After a person becomes Muslim he/she is taught about Prayers, Fasting,

the

> Poor due, Pilgrimage. These are pillars of Islam.

> > Then What?

> > Muslims are brothers. A Muslim should love for his brother what he loves

> for himself. Allah's wealth does not run out, and Allah can provide for us

> all. We pray for each other, and love each other, and love for our

brothers

> and sisters what we love for ourselves.

> >

> >

> >

> > For more information about Islam:

> > http://www.geocities.com/toislamways/new3.html

> >

> > To contact us:

> > iaslamq_a@...

> >

> > To Request Free Islamic Books & Resources:

> > imanwayibaw@...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

no offense Thea, but what does this have to do with the medication Lexapro?

~ Crystal

The Teachings Of Islam

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For several years, there has been a growing trend towards ecumenism. During

the tribulation hour, a global religious system will be established, and all

the world's major religions will be united under the rule of the Antichrist.

Right now, the devil is working hard to build a foundation to facilitate

that

eventual unity.

Christianity by its nature is not compatible with any other religion. Jesus

said, " I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,

but by me " ( 14:6). The Lord didn't say, " I am one way among many. "

I maintain that Islam is itself incompatible with Christianity. Western

liberal scholars do their best to promote the idea that Islam means peace

and love,

but they can't hide the vengeful and perverted teachings easily found in

Islamic writings. The following is a list of quotes from the Koran and other

Islamic

holy books that clearly speak for themselves.

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" They say, 'Accept the Jewish or the Christian faith and you shall be

rightly guided.' Say, 'By no means! We believe in the faith of Abraham, the

upright

one. He was no idolater.' " (Surah 2:135)

" The only true faith in God's sight is Islam. " (Surah 3:19)

" Say, 'Obey Allah and the apostle.' If they give no heed, then truly, Allah

does not love the unbelievers. " (Surah 3:29)

" If you fear that you cannot treat orphans with fairness, then you may marry

other women that seem good to you: two, three or four of them. " (Surah 4:1)

" Try as you may, you cannot treat all your wives impartially. " (Surah 4:3)

" Men take authority over women... As for those who are disobedient, admonish

them and send them to beds apart and beat them. " (Surah 4:34)

" Believers, do not approach your prayers when you are drunk, but wait till

you can grasp the meaning of your words... " (Surah 4:43)

" Will they not ponder on the Koran? if it had not come from God, they could

have surely found in it many contradictions. " (Surah 4:82)

" Seek out your enemies relentlessly. " (Surah 4:104)

" They denied the truth and uttered a monstrous falsehood against . they

declared: 'We have put to death the Messiah, Jesus the son of , the

apostle

of God.' they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but they thought

they did...they did not slay him for certain. God lifted him up to him... "

(Surah

4:157-158)

" The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved

ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins? " (Surah 5:18)

" Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. " (Surah 5:51)

" Unbelievers are those who say: 'God is one of three.' There is but one God.

If they do not desist from so saying, those of them that disbelieve shall be

sternly punished. " (Surah 5:73)

" The God will say: 'Jesus, son of , did you ever say to mankind 'Worship

me and my mother as gods besides God?' 'Glory to You, 'he will answer, 'how

could I ever say that to which I have no right? " (Surah 5:116)

" If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by

breaking off your treaty with them. " (Surah 9:12)

" Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and

Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. "

(Surah

9:29)

" The Christians say: The Christ is the son of Allah; these are the words of

their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may

Allah

destroy them. " (Sura 9:30)

" Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously

with them. Hell shall be their home. " (Surah 9:73)

" And say: All praise is due to Allah, WHO HAS NOT TAKEN A SON and WHO HAS

NOT A PARTNER in the kingdom. " (Sura 17.111)

" 'How shall I bear a child,' she [] answered, 'when I am a virgin...?'

'Such is the will of the Lord,' he replied. 'That is no difficult thing for

Him...God

forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!...Those who say: 'The Lord

of Mercy has begotten a son,' preach a monstrous falsehood... " (Surah

19:20-21,

29, 88-89)

" NEVER DID ALLAH TAKE TO HIMSELF A SON, and never was there with him any

(other) god . . . " (Sura 23:91)

" Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the

unbelievers but merciful to one another. " (Surah 48:29)

" The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until the Moslems make war against

the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and

the

rock and tree will say: 'Oh Moslem, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew

behind me, come and kill him!' " (Sahih Bukhari 004.52.176)

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Frequently Asked Questions

> FAQ about Islam

> (Frequently Asked Questions)

> Who is Allah?

> Allah means God. It is a personal name, which Allah calls Himself in the

Koran. That is where we get it. It can also be found in an Aramaic copy of

the Bible, and even Christian Arabs say Allah.

> Who is Jesus to us?

> Jesus peace be upon Him is a true prophet. Sent by Allah like Moses,

Abraham, Lot, Noah, Jonah, ph .etc.

> Who were Jesus's parents?

> Jesus is the son of Virgin , and he had no father. Allah created

Jesus.

> Can Jesus, or Mohammed peace be upon them be worshipped?

> No, Allah does not accept that a cow, a person, an angel, a prophet, a

stone, or anything be worshipped in place of him, or even along with Him.

Worship must be to Allah the creator of them.

> Is Allah the same as what Christians call the father?

> Allah is the creator who Jesus worshipped. He is the Creator who spoke to

Moses, and split the sea for Moses, and his followers. That is Allah. But

Allah tells us: " Say Allah is one, He is Perfect, He has never begotten, nor

was He begott, and there is no one equal to Him " .

> Is there a trinity in Islam?

> No. Allah is perfect.

> Do we believe that Allah created the heavens and earth in 6 days?

> Yes, but He did not rest on the seventh day, because He did not get tired.

Allah is perfect He does not get tired, nor does He sleep, eat, go to the

bathroom, feel pain, or die for that matter.

> Can we see Allah?

> Allah is not like the sun. Anyone can see the Sun. But Allah is the most

beautiful. Nothing is as beautiful as Allah. Actually looking at Allah is

the greatest pleasure of the people in Pradise. This pleasure Allah does not

give anyone but the believers. So no one will see Allah before he dies.

> Does Allah see us?

> Allah sees us, and knows everything about us. He knows us better than we

know ourselves. There is not a leaf on a tree that blows away, or stays in

its place except that He knows it. There is not a dry spot, nor a wet spot,

nor a grain in the depths of the earth except that Allah knows it.

> Do we have free will?

> Yes, of course. Allah does not punish us for something we did not do on

our own. But at the same time, our will is not inspire of Allah's will. We

cannot do anything if Allah will not allow it. In other words nothing goes

on in Allah's kingdom without His will.

> Did Allah create Evil?

> Yes, Allah created the good, and the bad. Whatever bad happens to us is

due to our sins. We sin and Allah pardons much of what we do; however, when

something bad happens to us it is our fault, and we are to blame. Bad things

that happen to a person are a chance for that person to reflect, and ask:

" Why is this happening to me? " A chance for a person to return from his sin,

and obey, and worship Allah.

> Do bad things happen to the believers (good people)?

> Yes, they do. But they appear bad to the believers cause they are things

people don't like. Who likes breaking a leg? However, when a bad thing

happens to a believer this believer is patient. He praises Allah in all

circumstances. He knows Allah does not decree something unless it is for his

own good.

> But how can breaking a leg are good for a beleiver?

> Because it is a chance for the believer to think about what he did wrong.

> Also because Allah forgives much of what we do, but those things we are

not forgiven, they are forgiven due to our patience when we are struck by a

calamity. Allah gives us better reward when a problem strikes us on earth if

we are patient. This reward can be on earth, and it can be in Heaven.

> Does Allah hear my prayers?

> Yes.

> Does Allah answer my prayers?

> We know that Allah answers all the prayers of the believers. This can be

in 4 ways:

> 1- Get what we are asking for!

> 2- Get something as good or better!

> 3- We get spared something bad that would have happened otherwise.

> 4- We get rewarded on the day of Judgment with a much greater reward than

what we were asking for on earth.

> When does Allah not answer our prayers?

> * When it is bad for us!

> * When we ask, but not from our heart!

> * When we say: I asked and asked and He did not answer.

> * When we eat, drink, and wear unlawful, food, and clothes, and property

that wa earned either through interest from the bank, or that was stolen, or

if the food was pork, or the like.

> What can I ask of Allah?

> Any thing but don't ask Him to do things like make you a prophet. Cause He

has already said that there will be no more prophets.

> You can ask Allah for guidance. Meaning you can ask Him to show you the

correct religion.

> Who are my best friends?

> Your best friends are the ones that care where you go after you are dead.

This is like the prophets. They cared that we go to heaven, even if it meant

some hardship on earth.

> Who is my worst enemy?

> That would be the devils, whether they are human devils (evil people), or

Jinn devils (like Iblis) The Arabic word for a devil is Shaytan (similar to

Satan). Satan wants us all to go to hell. He wants us to be bad on earth,

even if we get rich, or do lots of wrong things that we appear to enjoy, he

does not mind that. But he wants to make sure we don't go to heaven.

> What is it that keeps us from entering Heaven?

> Worship of anyone other than Allah is the greatest sin. It is called

shirk, and this is not forgiven except through repentance.

> Where is Allah?

> Allah is the highest. He is high above ALL of His creation. He is ascended

upon a Throne, which is greater than the heavens, and the Earth. Much much

much greater than the heavens and the earth. So much greater that the

heavens and the earth could fit in the footstool of the throne, and they

would be like a ring thrown into an open desert. Allah is certainly the

greatest.

> Does Allah look like us?

> No Allah is perfect. He is not like any of His creation. He has told us

that He has Hands, Eyes, a Face, and Foot. But all of these attributes are

befitting to His might and Glory.

> A Muslim does not say a single thing about Allah other than what Allah

says about Himself. We don't say He is like a clover, He got tired, He is

Jealous!

> Allah is Perfect, and Unique.

> What does it mean to believe in Allah?

> It means to believe in Allah in total perfection, and uniqueness.

> It means to believe in His prophets cause they are His, and He sent them.

We cannot pick and choose. A Muslim must believe in all the prophets of

Allah.

> It means to believe in the Angles! We must love them all, we cannot hate

an Angel say, for example, to hate who is charged with rain, and the

vegetation of the Earth, or who is charged with revelation (brings

down the scriptures to the prophets).

> It means to believe in Allah's predestination of good, and bad (relative

to us, but to Allah everything Allah does is good).

> It means to believe in the last day: The day of Judgment.

> When is the Day of Judgment?

> Only Allah knows.

> Are there signs for the day of Judgment?

> Plenty, plenty, plenty. Many have already occurred.

> To name a few,

> Objects will begin to talk.

> There will be much killing. The killer won't know why he killed, and the

guy that was killed won't know why he was killed.

> The Antichrist will come.

> Prophet Jesus son of will return.

> Gog and Magog will be set free.

> The sun will rise from the west (after this one there can be no more

repentance)

> What about non-Muslims do they go to heaven?

> Allah only accepts Islam. He says in the Koran: " Whoever seeks a religion

other than Islam it won't be accepted of him, and he will be one of the

loosers in the hereafter " . I would rather loose anywhere, but not loose in

the hereafter. This is because Hellfire is eternal. It never ends, and we

never die when we go there, if we go there.

> What about someone who never heard of Islam?

> Allah is the most just. Don't even think that we can be nicer than Allah.

Allah is the Most Just, and He said in the Koran " We were not to punish till

having sent a warner " . The " We " here is the majestic we used in Arabic. So

if a person never heard about Islam, and was never warned clearly Allah

would have a special test for that person that He knows is equal to the

chance that person would have had on earth.

> How do we know Islam is the truth?

> It is the only religion that:

> 1- Hold Allah as One, Unique, and Perfect.

> 2- A lonly worship of Allah, not Jesus, not an idol, and not an angel only

Allah.

> 3- The Koran does not contain contradictions.

> 4- The Koran contains scientific facts, which are 1300 years ahead of

their time. The Koran while revealed 1400 years ago contains scientific

facts, which are only now being discovered. It is not in contradiction to

science.

> 5- Allah challenges the world to produce the like of the Koran. And He

says they won't be able to.

> 6- Prophet Mohammed was the most influential man in History. Even a

non-Muslim wrote a book called the 100 most influential men in History, and

Prophet Mohammed was #1. Prophet Jesus was #3. Note even Prophet Jesus was a

prophet sent by Allah. Would Allah allow a false prophet to be so

successful? No. Even the Bible says this in Deuteronomy 18:19. A false

prophet would die!!! Yet Prophet Mohammed did not die till he completely

conveyed, and taught Allah's religion.

> 7- He had many prophecies, and all of his prophecies have come true, or

are still coming true.

> Most importantly is this:

> Allah created us, and we know that we should only worship Him. This is an

instinct Allah has created us with. He did not just leave us, rather He sent

prophets for us. These prophets had miracles as proof. The miracle for us

today is the Koran. There is no other religion that worships only Allah, and

believes in Him as totally perfect, and believes in all of His prophets, and

scriptures.

> Can anyone become a Muslim?

> Yes anyone can. There are two declarations, which are necessary:

> 1- To bear witness that no one deserves to be worship except Allah

> 2- To bear witness that Prophet Mohammed is the Messenger of Allah.

> This makes a person Muslim. But it should be said in Arabic. Next a person

takes a shower, and He/She is a Muslim.

> Then What?

> After a person becomes Muslim he/she is taught about Prayers, Fasting, the

Poor due, Pilgrimage. These are pillars of Islam.

> Then What?

> Muslims are brothers. A Muslim should love for his brother what he loves

for himself. Allah's wealth does not run out, and Allah can provide for us

all. We pray for each other, and love each other, and love for our brothers

and sisters what we love for ourselves.

>

>

>

> For more information about Islam:

> http://www.geocities.com/toislamways/new3.html

>

> To contact us:

> iaslamq_a@...

>

> To Request Free Islamic Books & Resources:

> imanwayibaw@...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think this is really appropriate for this forum. Especially for us

Christians!

Deb

Frequently Asked Questions

>

>

> > FAQ about Islam

> > (Frequently Asked Questions)

> > Who is Allah?

> > Allah means God. It is a personal name, which Allah calls Himself in the

> Koran. That is where we get it. It can also be found in an Aramaic copy of

> the Bible, and even Christian Arabs say Allah.

> > Who is Jesus to us?

> > Jesus peace be upon Him is a true prophet. Sent by Allah like Moses,

> Abraham, Lot, Noah, Jonah, ph .etc.

> > Who were Jesus's parents?

> > Jesus is the son of Virgin , and he had no father. Allah created

> Jesus.

> > Can Jesus, or Mohammed peace be upon them be worshipped?

> > No, Allah does not accept that a cow, a person, an angel, a prophet, a

> stone, or anything be worshipped in place of him, or even along with Him.

> Worship must be to Allah the creator of them.

> > Is Allah the same as what Christians call the father?

> > Allah is the creator who Jesus worshipped. He is the Creator who spoke

to

> Moses, and split the sea for Moses, and his followers. That is Allah. But

> Allah tells us: " Say Allah is one, He is Perfect, He has never begotten,

nor

> was He begott, and there is no one equal to Him " .

> > Is there a trinity in Islam?

> > No. Allah is perfect.

> > Do we believe that Allah created the heavens and earth in 6 days?

> > Yes, but He did not rest on the seventh day, because He did not get

tired.

> Allah is perfect He does not get tired, nor does He sleep, eat, go to the

> bathroom, feel pain, or die for that matter.

> > Can we see Allah?

> > Allah is not like the sun. Anyone can see the Sun. But Allah is the most

> beautiful. Nothing is as beautiful as Allah. Actually looking at Allah is

> the greatest pleasure of the people in Pradise. This pleasure Allah does

not

> give anyone but the believers. So no one will see Allah before he dies.

> > Does Allah see us?

> > Allah sees us, and knows everything about us. He knows us better than we

> know ourselves. There is not a leaf on a tree that blows away, or stays in

> its place except that He knows it. There is not a dry spot, nor a wet

spot,

> nor a grain in the depths of the earth except that Allah knows it.

> > Do we have free will?

> > Yes, of course. Allah does not punish us for something we did not do on

> our own. But at the same time, our will is not inspire of Allah's will. We

> cannot do anything if Allah will not allow it. In other words nothing goes

> on in Allah's kingdom without His will.

> > Did Allah create Evil?

> > Yes, Allah created the good, and the bad. Whatever bad happens to us is

> due to our sins. We sin and Allah pardons much of what we do; however,

when

> something bad happens to us it is our fault, and we are to blame. Bad

things

> that happen to a person are a chance for that person to reflect, and ask:

> " Why is this happening to me? " A chance for a person to return from his

sin,

> and obey, and worship Allah.

> > Do bad things happen to the believers (good people)?

> > Yes, they do. But they appear bad to the believers cause they are things

> people don't like. Who likes breaking a leg? However, when a bad thing

> happens to a believer this believer is patient. He praises Allah in all

> circumstances. He knows Allah does not decree something unless it is for

his

> own good.

> > But how can breaking a leg are good for a beleiver?

> > Because it is a chance for the believer to think about what he did

wrong.

> > Also because Allah forgives much of what we do, but those things we are

> not forgiven, they are forgiven due to our patience when we are struck by

a

> calamity. Allah gives us better reward when a problem strikes us on earth

if

> we are patient. This reward can be on earth, and it can be in Heaven.

> > Does Allah hear my prayers?

> > Yes.

> > Does Allah answer my prayers?

> > We know that Allah answers all the prayers of the believers. This can be

> in 4 ways:

> > 1- Get what we are asking for!

> > 2- Get something as good or better!

> > 3- We get spared something bad that would have happened otherwise.

> > 4- We get rewarded on the day of Judgment with a much greater reward

than

> what we were asking for on earth.

> > When does Allah not answer our prayers?

> > * When it is bad for us!

> > * When we ask, but not from our heart!

> > * When we say: I asked and asked and He did not answer.

> > * When we eat, drink, and wear unlawful, food, and clothes, and property

> that wa earned either through interest from the bank, or that was stolen,

or

> if the food was pork, or the like.

> > What can I ask of Allah?

> > Any thing but don't ask Him to do things like make you a prophet. Cause

He

> has already said that there will be no more prophets.

> > You can ask Allah for guidance. Meaning you can ask Him to show you the

> correct religion.

> > Who are my best friends?

> > Your best friends are the ones that care where you go after you are

dead.

> This is like the prophets. They cared that we go to heaven, even if it

meant

> some hardship on earth.

> > Who is my worst enemy?

> > That would be the devils, whether they are human devils (evil people),

or

> Jinn devils (like Iblis) The Arabic word for a devil is Shaytan (similar

to

> Satan). Satan wants us all to go to hell. He wants us to be bad on earth,

> even if we get rich, or do lots of wrong things that we appear to enjoy,

he

> does not mind that. But he wants to make sure we don't go to heaven.

> > What is it that keeps us from entering Heaven?

> > Worship of anyone other than Allah is the greatest sin. It is called

> shirk, and this is not forgiven except through repentance.

> > Where is Allah?

> > Allah is the highest. He is high above ALL of His creation. He is

ascended

> upon a Throne, which is greater than the heavens, and the Earth. Much much

> much greater than the heavens and the earth. So much greater that the

> heavens and the earth could fit in the footstool of the throne, and they

> would be like a ring thrown into an open desert. Allah is certainly the

> greatest.

> > Does Allah look like us?

> > No Allah is perfect. He is not like any of His creation. He has told us

> that He has Hands, Eyes, a Face, and Foot. But all of these attributes are

> befitting to His might and Glory.

> > A Muslim does not say a single thing about Allah other than what Allah

> says about Himself. We don't say He is like a clover, He got tired, He is

> Jealous!

> > Allah is Perfect, and Unique.

> > What does it mean to believe in Allah?

> > It means to believe in Allah in total perfection, and uniqueness.

> > It means to believe in His prophets cause they are His, and He sent

them.

> We cannot pick and choose. A Muslim must believe in all the prophets of

> Allah.

> > It means to believe in the Angles! We must love them all, we cannot hate

> an Angel say, for example, to hate who is charged with rain, and

the

> vegetation of the Earth, or who is charged with revelation (brings

> down the scriptures to the prophets).

> > It means to believe in Allah's predestination of good, and bad (relative

> to us, but to Allah everything Allah does is good).

> > It means to believe in the last day: The day of Judgment.

> > When is the Day of Judgment?

> > Only Allah knows.

> > Are there signs for the day of Judgment?

> > Plenty, plenty, plenty. Many have already occurred.

> > To name a few,

> > Objects will begin to talk.

> > There will be much killing. The killer won't know why he killed, and the

> guy that was killed won't know why he was killed.

> > The Antichrist will come.

> > Prophet Jesus son of will return.

> > Gog and Magog will be set free.

> > The sun will rise from the west (after this one there can be no more

> repentance)

> > What about non-Muslims do they go to heaven?

> > Allah only accepts Islam. He says in the Koran: " Whoever seeks a

religion

> other than Islam it won't be accepted of him, and he will be one of the

> loosers in the hereafter " . I would rather loose anywhere, but not loose in

> the hereafter. This is because Hellfire is eternal. It never ends, and we

> never die when we go there, if we go there.

> > What about someone who never heard of Islam?

> > Allah is the most just. Don't even think that we can be nicer than

Allah.

> Allah is the Most Just, and He said in the Koran " We were not to punish

till

> having sent a warner " . The " We " here is the majestic we used in Arabic. So

> if a person never heard about Islam, and was never warned clearly Allah

> would have a special test for that person that He knows is equal to the

> chance that person would have had on earth.

> > How do we know Islam is the truth?

> > It is the only religion that:

> > 1- Hold Allah as One, Unique, and Perfect.

> > 2- A lonly worship of Allah, not Jesus, not an idol, and not an angel

only

> Allah.

> > 3- The Koran does not contain contradictions.

> > 4- The Koran contains scientific facts, which are 1300 years ahead of

> their time. The Koran while revealed 1400 years ago contains scientific

> facts, which are only now being discovered. It is not in contradiction to

> science.

> > 5- Allah challenges the world to produce the like of the Koran. And He

> says they won't be able to.

> > 6- Prophet Mohammed was the most influential man in History. Even a

> non-Muslim wrote a book called the 100 most influential men in History,

and

> Prophet Mohammed was #1. Prophet Jesus was #3. Note even Prophet Jesus was

a

> prophet sent by Allah. Would Allah allow a false prophet to be so

> successful? No. Even the Bible says this in Deuteronomy 18:19. A false

> prophet would die!!! Yet Prophet Mohammed did not die till he completely

> conveyed, and taught Allah's religion.

> > 7- He had many prophecies, and all of his prophecies have come true, or

> are still coming true.

> > Most importantly is this:

> > Allah created us, and we know that we should only worship Him. This is

an

> instinct Allah has created us with. He did not just leave us, rather He

sent

> prophets for us. These prophets had miracles as proof. The miracle for us

> today is the Koran. There is no other religion that worships only Allah,

and

> believes in Him as totally perfect, and believes in all of His prophets,

and

> scriptures.

> > Can anyone become a Muslim?

> > Yes anyone can. There are two declarations, which are necessary:

> > 1- To bear witness that no one deserves to be worship except Allah

> > 2- To bear witness that Prophet Mohammed is the Messenger of Allah.

> > This makes a person Muslim. But it should be said in Arabic. Next a

person

> takes a shower, and He/She is a Muslim.

> > Then What?

> > After a person becomes Muslim he/she is taught about Prayers, Fasting,

the

> Poor due, Pilgrimage. These are pillars of Islam.

> > Then What?

> > Muslims are brothers. A Muslim should love for his brother what he loves

> for himself. Allah's wealth does not run out, and Allah can provide for us

> all. We pray for each other, and love each other, and love for our

brothers

> and sisters what we love for ourselves.

> >

> >

> >

> > For more information about Islam:

> > http://www.geocities.com/toislamways/new3.html

> >

> > To contact us:

> > iaslamq_a@...

> >

> > To Request Free Islamic Books & Resources:

> > imanwayibaw@...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dolores,

The high TSH suggests that you have been grossly under medicated. Did

your doctor increase your prescription in response?

You wrote:

>

> are there foods that we should avoid? i hope to learn a lot here from

> your experiences.

This is a question addressed in our FAQ file, which is a concatenation

of posts over the last four years about which the information (or

controversy) has not changed much. For old timers, I have only added

three new links, including the one for checking for drug interactions.

If you already have that one, you may want to delete now.

Answers to Frequently Asked Questions

INTRODUCTION

Most of us got here from one of four causes: (1) an autoimmune attack on

the thyroid gland and its hormones, a condition called Hashimoto's

thyroiditis; (2) surgical removal or radioactive destruction of the

thyroid gland for a medical reason such as goiter or cancer; (3) an

idiopathic (don't know what causes it) familial pattern, in which the

thyroid simply stops working; or (4) an endocrine or protein binding

malfunction involving other hormones, that results in some sort of

imbalance or conversion insufficiency.

You can find the basics in the following links. These sites often have

an ax to grind and may not agree on the best courses of action. However,

they tend to have a lot of useful information that is made accessible to

people new to the subject.

Symptoms:

http://www.womentowomen.com/hypothyroidism/symptoms.asp .

How the thyroid works and what can go wrong:

http://www.btf-thyroid.org/index.htm .

Summary of treatments, although with lots of editorial views:

http://thyroid.about.com/od/thyroiddrugstreatments/ .

Good backgrounds and links, although pushing Armour pretty exclusively:

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/causes-of-hypo/

http://www.geocities.com/thyroide/

More useful links at Thyroid Foundation of America:

http://www.allthyroid.org/

Forest Pharmaceuticals web page advertising Armour and their home page.

http://www.armourthyroid.com/faq.html

http://www.frx.com/

A useful site for checking for drug interactions:

http://www.pdrhealth.com/health/health-tools-drug-interactions.aspx

What do my tests mean? What other tests are available?

http://www.labtestsonline.org/

We share a common medical condition, eventually affecting up to about

10% of all women, although a lesser percentage of men. If you are in one

of the first three categories, clearly indicated as hypothyroid by

tests, your doctor probably gave you a prescription for a synthetic T4

replacement and told you to come back in 4-8 weeks for more testing.

That process is called titration.

If your doctor is conservative (the 8-week variety, which is recommended

if you are over 50, a child, or have a cardiac problem), he probably

gave you a low starting dose, in which case you won't notice much relief

for months, when the dosage finally gets close to optimum. In between,

you may have temporary improvement after each dosage increase that will

fade as your system adjusts. Eventually, you are likely to feel normal

again, that is, if you are one of the lucky majority. Many on the list,

though, are here because they weren't as lucky.

If your doctor is cautious, allowing your levels to stabilize and

checking the side effects before increasing the dose, you might want to

show up a little early. The recommended interval is a minimum of six

weeks. However, if you are young and otherwise healthy, there is no

reason not to push that a bit. The sooner you get to full replacement

and get it stabilized, the sooner you feel normal again. The incremental

increases only help briefly and then seem to fall off until the next

increase.

The latest prescribing guidelines for healthy patients under 50 tell

doctors to go immediately to a " full replacement dose " and titrate from

there. That gets you feeling better much more quickly than the older

approach. Gursoy A, et. al. " Which thyroid-stimulating hormone level

should be sought in hypothyroid patients under L-thyroxine replacement

therapy? " Int J Clin Pract. 2006 Jun;60(6):655-9

Traditionally, practitioners have, for most patients, had their own

particular approaches to thyroid hormone replacement that fall into 5

categories.

1. Minimum Medication / High-Normal TSH

Some practitioners have preferred to take the most conservative

approach, providing the lowest possible dose of thyroid medication, and

targeting the top end of the normal range for a patient's TSH level.

Their justification has been a concern over the effects of a lower TSH

on bone density, as well as concerns that medication might have negative

effects on the heart. This approach itself has been controversial

however, because there is contradictory evidence as to whether patients

medicated to the lower normal range face an increased risk of

osteoporosis. It's also been shown that thyroid medication is safe for

most patients, and dosage should be increased slowly and monitored

carefully for cardiac implications in only the elderly and people with a

history of preexisting heart conditions.

2. Medication to Mid-Normal Range

Many practitioners have as their objective to provide enough thyroid

hormone replacement for a patient's TSH level to end up somewhere in the

middle of the " normal range " -- and again, most often, using the older,

broader normal range of approximately 0.5 to 5.0 to 6.0. This is

considered a " safe " strategy for the physician, as conventional medicine

says that hypothyroidism is fully " treated " when the patient is

euthyroid (has a normal TSH level).

3. Medication to the 1.0 to 2.0 Range

Some practitioners -- including more of the integrative and holistic

practitioners, have focused on a TSH level of between 1.0 and 2.0 as the

target range. This target has typically been based not on definitive

research, but more on clinical experience over time noting at which TSH

level the majority of their patients typically report feeling their best.

4. Suppression of TSH to 0.0 or Nearly Undetectable Levels

TSH suppression, where higher doses of medication are given to suppress

the thyroid's ability to produce any, or most, thyroid hormone is a

strategy used with thyroid cancer survivors. Suppression prevents any

remnant thyroid tissue from becoming active, and can help prevent cancer

recurrence in many patients, and is often recommended by practitioners

managing thyroid cancer patients. This approach is considered an

important part of the ongoing treatment for thyroid cancer survivors.

5. Medication to Eliminate Symptoms

Some practitioners -- mainly from the holistic, alternative or

integrative community -- believe that the TSH levels are irrelevant in

managing a patient. They may occasionally test the TSH, but their target

is resolution of thyroid symptoms, and they will change the dosage of

thyroid hormone medication based on a patient's self-reported symptoms,

as well as clinical signs including pulse rate, blood pressure, and

observable thyroid symptoms such as reflexes, goiter size, eye

irritation, and swelling in the face and extremities. This group also

tends to include alternative medications and supplements, such as iodine

or kelp.

IMPLICATIONS FOR PATIENTS

With the publication of this new research, there is now scientific

justification for doctors to avoid undermedicating patients to

high-normal or mid-range TSH levels, and instead, target a level of 2.0

or less, in order to ensure that their patients are receiving optimal care.

In late 2002, the National Academy of Clinical Biochemistry (NACB)

issued new guidelines for the diagnosis and monitoring of thyroid

disease. In the guidelines, the NACB reported that the current TSH

reference range -- which usually runs from approximately 0.5 to 5.5 --

may be too wide and actually may include people with thyroid disease.

When more sensitive screening was done, which excluded people with

thyroid disease, 95 percent of the population tested actually had a TSH

level between 0.4 and 2.5.

The NACB guidelines led to a recommendation in January 2003 by the

American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists (AACE), calling for

doctors to " consider treatment for patients who test outside the

boundaries of a narrower margin based on a target TSH level of 0.3 to 3.0. "

You will probably be on the medication for the rest of your life. The

few cases of restored thyroid function I have read about sound like mild

partial impairment which stops. Hashimoto's can sometimes do that, as

can endocrine malfunctions. Most of the time, everyone that reaches the

full replacement dose seems to stay there.

Autoimmune conditions can stop and go into either temporary or longer

lasting remission. However, the more usual progression is cyclic

recurrence, once they have been triggered. In the case of the thyroid,

this usually results in permanent loss of function. Other systems are

sometimes more resilient. Nobody knows the cause for the immune system

to attack the body it is supposed to protect, although this is a very

active field of research today.

The big distinction of Hashimoto's from the other causes is that thyroid

function can go up and down again, alternating hyperthyroid with

hypothyroid under the same dosage, until the gland is finally,

permanently destroyed. This means the gland stops functioning entirely,

stops collecting iodine and producing the T4 and T3 from it that you

need. There is also a small reduction in organ size, the only sort of

weight loss associated with hypoT. To me a goiter sounds

worse, because it results in disfigurement.

Once you get your dosage stabilized, you should feel as well as ever,

with a couple of caveats. For example, I've noticed an intolerance to

heavy exercise, which seems to use up the T3 faster than usual. My

system can't keep up for more than about three hours of work, then I

become a vegetable for a short period. Several of us on the list call

this " hitting the wall. " It is much like what a marathoner runs into

when the liver's supply of glucose runs out. Either that or I've just

become lazy with age.

Really, you can still exercise, but you have to pace yourself. Where

before you could " party all night " and pay the piper later, now you tend

to pay up front.

Body temperature can be a good indicator of metabolism. HypoT folks feel

cold because they are cold. Other symptoms can be important

indicators, and you should memorize the list of both hypo-T and hyper-T

symptoms, just in case. However, if you expect a comment with more

content than " That's too bad, " we would also like to see your blood test

results. These should include the reference ranges for each test as

reported by your lab.

HOW TO USE THIS LIST

Don't be shy about sharing information. Most of us have done these

tests over and over for years. They don't indicate your IQ or anything

really personal. They just give clues on what is causing your condition.

Also, these are YOUR test results. You have a right to ask for a copy

from your doctor or to ask that the lab send a second copy directly to you.

I tend to ask for a test myself at least every six months, but I am

paranoid about my health. A year would work if you had no symptoms for a

long time. My mother went several years before checking her dosage. It

nearly killed her once, when they changed the formulation of Synthroid

and didn't tell the doctors.

THE TESTS

A summary of the various tests you may be asked to take:

http://vitamvas.tripod.com/lab.html

For most of us, increasing the available T4 by taking a synthetic

replacement adequately supports the FT3 level. If it doesn't, you could

have poor conversion from T4 to T3. Or, you could have excessive binding

of both T4 and T3, so the free components are too low. Another possible

problem is that antibodies are making your other tests invalid,

indicating within the normal range when they are actually outside.

One possible solution for all of these is to drive TSH lower than the

reference range, or to increase T4 to higher than its reference range.

You can do that with either more T4 or by adding T3 to the mix. Again,

the reference ranges are valid for initial screening and perhaps for

initial titration. After that, interpretations vary, depending on the

physician, many of whom do not believe the published lab guidelines. Two

major professional groups have issued recommendations about LOWERING the

reference ranges for people on the medications.

RECOMMENDATIONS

Here are the recommendations of the American Society of Endocrinologists

and the National Academy of Clinical Biochemists. You might want to

share these with your doctor:

http://www.nacb.org/lmpg/thyroid_lmpg_pub.stm

http://thyroid.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ & sdn=thyroid & zu=http%3A%2\

F%2Fwww.nacb.org%2Flmpg%2Fthyroid_LMPG_PDF.stm

You might also want the papers here:

http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/tsh/tshmedrefs4.php#supp

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/osteoporosis.htm

We seem to agree there is a list of foods to avoid, especially if you

have at least some thyroid function left. This includes goitrogen foods:

http://www.ithyroid.com/goitrogens.htm .

I personally eat many of the goitrogens, particularly nuts and raw

broccoli, but I have no thyroid function left, nothing left to lose. I

still avoid soy, because it apparently goes after thyroxine in serum. I

have not noticed any effect from the other goitrogens, since I am on a

full replacement dose of thyroxine.

I also try to minimize consumption of fluoride. This is another bad

actor that is toxic to both an active thyroid gland and thyroid hormones

in the blood. Black tea is particularly rich in fluoride, so the only

tea I have any more is green tea, and that is pretty rare, coffee being

an essential nutrient, at least to me. Herbal teas are not a problem for

fluoride. The amount in city water supplies is a concern. Check with

your public water company.

Although some on the list recommend taking large iodine supplements in

addition to the replacement medications, iodine can be toxic to some

people, and it has especially bad effects for those with Hashimoto's. It

seems to stimulate the antibody attack. Canada's federal health agency

issued a warning in 2003 to stay away from kelp, because you might get

as much as 4 mg per day by following the directions. Some on the list

are taking more than ten times that amount daily.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/2003/2003_27_e.html

Here are some other reports of experimental evidence that iodine

supplements aggravate Hashimoto's:

Effect of Iodine Restriction on Thyroid Function in Patients With

Primary Hypothyroidism. Kanji Kasagi, Masahiro Iwata, Takashi Misaki,

Junji Konishi Thyroid 13(6):561-567, 2003.

Control of efficiency and results, and adverse effects of excess iodine

administration on thyroid function. Koutras A. , Ann Endocrinol (Paris)

57: 463-469, 1996.

Chronic autoimmune thyroiditis. Dayan CM, s GH., N Engl J Med 335:

99-107, 1996.

Ironically, levothyroxine (T4) itself is an iodine supplement with four

iodine atoms in each molecule. I personally would not take iodine (e.g.

kelp) unless I had clear evidence of a deficiency. That could be the

case for someone with untreated symptoms, or someone not taking hormone

replacements, which, in fact, are a concentrated form of iodine.

If you think lack of iodine is your problem or that overdosing with it

might help, here is the home site of a supplier that some of our listers

recommend. Again, this approach is controversial.

http://www.optimox.com/

As to what TO eat, most of us are fighting weight problems. HypoT also

puts us at risk of high-cholesterol induced cardiac and stroke and type

II diabetes. Diet is probably where the widest range of controversy

lies. Many of us have tried the extremely low carbohydrate diets and

lost some weight. However, I found that after about 10 months, even the

extreme induction form of the diet no longer worked. I think my

metabolism had simply adapted. It just took longer than it takes to

adapt to a low fat diet.

OTOH, hypothyroidism seems to make us particularly susceptible to the

effects of high glycemic index foods. So, I still try to minimize sugars

and simple or refined starches along with saturated and especially trans

fats. We have had a couple of testimonials for coconut oil, but it did

absolutely nothing for me.

Some on the list will give you a long list of supplements they swear by.

I think some of us could stock a health food store with what is in their

medicine cabinets. However, some things seem to be on everyone's list.

The first is selenium, since it helps with T4-T3 conversion. As with

iodine, though, too much selenium is reputed to be toxic and increases

your risk of diabetes at about 200 mcg per day. Make sure you

aren't getting it from multiple sources.

Another supplement that is frequently mentioned is vitamin B-12. For me

it helps with energy level if taken intermittently. Too often, and I get

jittery, can't sleep, and feel rather wiped out and uncomfortable.

In summary, diet won't help much with the primary symptoms unless the

hormone levels are properly balanced. For most of us, that means getting

the dosage or combination of replacement hormones right. Once that is

fixed, the main concern is choosing a " healthy diet " that controls the

weight gain. However, we have lots of conflicting opinions on what that

means.

Calcium carbonate has been shown in several well reviewed tests to

interfere with T4 absorption when taken up to three hours after the T4.

However, the form of calcium in milk should not do this. It is not

carbonate. Iron is another nutrient with this interference capability.

Calcium carbonate is in a lot of other medications and supplements as a

binder. You should not take any food within an hour after or two hours

before your T4, longer for iron, calcium, or fiber.

Don't take these anywhere near the same time as your T4. Most of us take

the hormone first thing in the morning and other medications after

breakfast or in the evening. Fiber is not nearly as bad as calcium

carbonate or iron. These will affect absorption even after three hours.

I would also suggest waiting for the dosage to settle before starting a

low carb diet. That shuts down the intestines independent of thyroid

status. The two together could be a real problem. One final possibility

is that a lot of the non-dairy creamers have soy in them. Soy will also

interfere long after you take the Synthroid.

It is also possible that iodide added to salt could aggravate autoimmune

thyroiditis, actually making your T3 lower. However, this is usually a

slower, longer term effect. Another caution is that a gross excess of

iodide can burn the thyroid. Again, this is usually a longer term

effect, not something that would affect a selected afternoon and then go

away. It would also take a fairly large slug of iodide, much more than

is available in table salt.

Some people experience side effects from one medication or another. In

addition to the following ingredients, Abbott Laboratories is now

advising list members that the .05 and .075 mg tablets have 2.9 mg. of

sulfites per pill. This is more than enough to adversely effect people

sensitive to sulfites. We do not know whether other thyroid medications

might have sulfites, which are commonly included with colorings to

stabilize them.

Here are the Synthroid and generic levothyroxine inert ingredients:

Acacia, confectioner's sugar (contains cornstarch), lactose, magnesium

stearate, povidone, and talc. No sulfites.

The following are the color additives by tablet strength: 25 mcg: FD & C

yellow No. 6; 50 mcg: None; 75 mcg: FD & C red No. 40, FD & C blue No. 2;

88 mcg: FD & C blue No. 1, FD & C yellow No. 6, D & C yellow No. 10; 100 mcg:

D & C yellow No.10, FD & C yellow No. 6; 112 mcg: D & C red No. 27 & 30; 125

mcg: FD & C yellow No. 6, FD & C red No. 40, FD & C blue No. 1; 150 mcg:

FD & C blue No. 2; 175 mcg: FD & C blue No. 1, D & C red No. 27 & 30; 200

mcg: FD & C red No. 40; 300 mcg: D & C yellow No. 10, FD & C yellow No. 6,

FD & C blue No. 1.

Levoxyl inert ingredients:

Microcrystalline cellulose, croscarmellose sodium and magnesium stearate.

The following are the coloring additives per tablet strength: (mcg) 25

FD & C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake; 50 None; 75 FD & C Blue No. 1 Aluminum

Lake, D & C Red No. 30 Aluminum Lake; 88 FD & C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake,

FD & C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake, D & C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake; 100 FD & C

Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake, D & C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake; 112 FD & C

Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake, FD & C Red No. 40 Aluminum Lake, D & C Red No.

30 Aluminum Lake; 125 FD & C Red No. 40 Aluminum Lake, D & C Yellow No. 10

Aluminum Lake; 137 FD & C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake; 150 FD & C Blue No. 1

Aluminum Lake, D & C Red No. 30 Aluminum Lake; 175 FD & C Blue No. 1

Aluminum Lake, D & C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake; 200 D & C Red No. 30

Aluminum Lake, D & C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake; 300 FD & C Yellow No. 6

Aluminum Lake, FD & C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake, D & C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum

Lake

So what is the difference? The big one is lactose in Synthroid and its

generics. Some people are intolerable to even a tiny amount of this

ingredient. The second big difference is that Synthroid uses dyes for

coloring, while Levoxyl has a combination of dyes and lakes. Some of the

inert ingredients also contain sulfites. If you are sensitive to sulfur,

you may need to choose a dosage with a different coloring.

A dye is a distinct chemical material, which exhibits coloring power

when dissolved. The lakes are insoluble in nearly all solvents, and

therefore do not require sulfites to stabilize them. The term is

derived from the early medieval Latin lacca to indicate a combination of

pigment with products of the lac insect (Kerria lacca). The lac was

imported into Europe from India, and it yielded both red dyestuff and,

as a by-product, shellac (shell-lac) and lacquer (lac-quer). Until the

18th century, lake indicated red pigments only. Aluminum lakes are

produced by the absorption of a water soluble dye onto a hydrated

aluminum substrate. The food product is colored either by dispersion of

the lake or by coating onto the surface.

" Subclinical " means that a set of indicator symptoms are not confirmed

by chemical tests. Before T3 and T4 assays became widely available, the

main or only test used was TSH. Thus, at one time, subclinical meant

symptoms with a high normal, or slightly above normal, TSH. With other

tests and other protocols for each test, the accepted definition has

necessarily changed.

One major issue with a subclinical diagnosis is whether the tests you

had are reliable or relevant. Free T3 is the one that really controls

the metabolic symptoms, so a normal Total T4 or Total T3 test may not be

completely meaningful, particularly if conversion to T3 is messed up or

if too large a fraction of T3 is bound by albumin and globulin.

Three proteins in the blood chemically attach to thyroxine, rendering it

unable to convert (T4 to T3) or play its role in maintaining metabolism.

Fortunately, this binding is temporary, and the thyroxine will

spontaneously detach in short order. However, at any given time, about

99% of the T4 and T3 in the blood is tied up with these proteins. Only

the tiny fraction left FREE is able to contribute to metabolism and

health, which is why it is important to measure FT3 (Free

3,5,3’-triiodothyronine) when you are medicated but still having

problems. FT4 can be used to estimate FT3 from total T3, since the

percentage of binding is very close to the same.

The dominant binding protein is in the globulin family, called thyroxine

binding globulin. Although it is present in the lowest concentration of

the three, it has the highest affinity and therefore ties up the most T4

and T3. The second is a type of albumin, sometimes called pre-albumin.

It ties up about a third of your hormone. A tiny amount is also caught

by a third type of protein, transthyretin. Because thyroxine binding

globulin is dominant, the binding process is often just called globulin

binding.

Obviously, globulin binding serves as a control valve, a throttle, on

your medicine. It prevents T4 from easily converting to T3, since both

need to be in the free form. It creates a reservoir of T4, which is one

reason why T4 has a biological half life of nearly a week. If the

throttle is too tightly closed, the excess binding results in too little

FT3, even though total T4 may be fine. There is too much in the

reservoir and not enough getting to your cells. One possible indication

of this situation is when Total T4 is fluctuating, but the free

fractions only change a little.

Another big issue is the effect of antibodies, which may or may not

change the other readings. If you had no antibodies detected, this is

less likely, unless you are in a very early stage of thyroid

deterioration. If so, a small supplementation in either or both T4 and

T3 might help with symptoms or their anticipated progression. Just watch

for hyperT symptoms. That would tell you to back off the dosage.

Again, welcome aboard, and I hope these comments help. If you object to

any of the " standard model " information I included, please collect

some rebuttal posts and web pages, and I will revise the FAQ

message to include both sides for new members.

Chuck