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I'm hearing people on the iodine board who are taking how much they are

being told and they also where having swelling throat problems. I think it's too

dangerous. I'm willing to give things a try and I'm glad I tried it, but I

think if your having problems where you feel like your choking...it's your body

saying don't do it. I haven't taken any for a few days and my neck still

hurts. I have a feeling that for some of us, the iodine is going there, but

because our thyroid glad is shot, it's not leaving the gland easily.

In a message dated 12/5/2008 8:23:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

circe@... writes:

low dose iodine does not work. if your body is starving for iodine your

thyroid gland will swell to try and capture it. if you don't want to take

enough iodine, do not take any.

iodine group is there to help ppl take iodine the right way, so it works.

gracia

That would scare me to try a higher dose when a lower dose has hurt my neck.

I haven't taken any in a day and a half and I can still feel it in my neck.

I do think my body felt a little better and I was less itchy, but the neck

thing really hurt. I could see maybe taking a lower dose...like breaking up

a

tablet into halves or fourths if I could...but more...there's no way I would

try that. I'd be afraid I'd suffocate.

In a message dated 12/2/2008 8:50:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

circe@... writes:

low dose iodine does not work. if your body is starving for it, you will

need to saturate tissues. most ppl take 50--100mg. iodine/iodide.

gracia

I just don't feel good. I forgot to mention I had a slight headache too. The

neck being sore is bothering me. My body feels ok and my stomach good....I

know it's quick to judge, but I just think if this was the answer that I'd

feel

better all around.

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December 5, 2008

Hi Sam,

While it might be true that my body needs the iodine, I just can't handle

this pain in my neck. I also got the headache which wasn't bad, but it was

often. It really worries me about how much pain I was in due to this swelling in

my neck. I felt it was too dangerous to continue. I would like some day to

eventually buy that doctors book if I ever see it cheap enough to see what he

says about iodine specifically if you have Hashi's. It really worries me that

maybe other thyroid conditions could take the iodine, but hashi's shouldn't. I

think if I saw actual studies done that it was ok, I'd consider it. I still

also believe that there should be no reason not to use any form of iodine as

opposed to the expensive one that the company sells. That's my opinion

though.

Oh and BTW, we are getting two little kitties for my son and daughter on

christmas morning. They don't know yet. We lost our long loved cat of 17 years

this past spring and we're just now ready to bring some new love in. We have a

poem for each kid that will be in a box with a webkinz cat that matches their

cat. Each poem is like a guess what your getting and you have to go find it

(they will be in our basement). Our neighbor is fostering them for us till

christmas eve.

In a message dated 12/5/2008 11:20:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

k9gang@... writes:

, what Gracia said about this is true.

Do you have a puppy? If you do, what would happen if you didn't feed

it for 2 days and then only gave it one little cooky? It sure would

gobble up that cooky pretty fast, and probably start begging an

crying for more more MORE! That's sort of what a thyroid gland will

do under the same circumstances...it will try to get more. That's

just what happens.

Maybe take 500-1000mg Vitamin C and that should help a wee bit.

FWIW, one of the signs that my sinuses were finally starting to clear

after starting Iodoral was a slight frontal headache and after that

my nose ran and ran for qute a while and they are perfectly normal

now.

....but also please don't forget that other parts of your body also

need " enough " iodine...skin, brain, bones, sex organs, eyes, stomach,

digestive tract, etc etc etc... The " RDA " of iodine is only the

amount to " prevent goiter " , and completely ignores the rest of the

body's iodine needs. Isn't that weird?

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

--- In hypothyroidism , tyblossom@... wrote:

>

> I'm hearing people on the iodine board who are taking how much they

are

> being told and they also where having swelling throat problems. I

think it's too

> dangerous. I'm willing to give things a try and I'm glad I tried

it, but I

> think if your having problems where you feel like your

choking...it's your body

> saying don't do it. I haven't taken any for a few days and my neck

still

> hurts. I have a feeling that for some of us, the iodine is going

there, but

> because our thyroid glad is shot, it's not leaving the gland

easily.

>

> In a message dated 12/5/2008 8:23:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> circe@... writes:

>

> low dose iodine does not work. if your body is starving for

iodine your

> thyroid gland will swell to try and capture it. if you don't want

to take

> enough iodine, do not take any.

> iodine group is there to help ppl take iodine the right way, so it

works.

> gracia

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December 5, 2008

low dose iodine does not work. if your body is starving for iodine your

thyroid gland will swell to try and capture it. if you don't want to take

enough iodine, do not take any.

iodine group is there to help ppl take iodine the right way, so it works.

gracia

That would scare me to try a higher dose when a lower dose has hurt my neck.

I haven't taken any in a day and a half and I can still feel it in my neck.

I do think my body felt a little better and I was less itchy, but the neck

thing really hurt. I could see maybe taking a lower dose...like breaking up a

tablet into halves or fourths if I could...but more...there's no way I would

try that. I'd be afraid I'd suffocate.

In a message dated 12/2/2008 8:50:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

circe@... writes:

low dose iodine does not work. if your body is starving for it, you will

need to saturate tissues. most ppl take 50--100mg. iodine/iodide.

gracia

I just don't feel good. I forgot to mention I had a slight headache too. The

neck being sore is bothering me. My body feels ok and my stomach good....I

know it's quick to judge, but I just think if this was the answer that I'd

feel

better all around.

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Thanks for the info. I'm going to ask my doctor about the adrenals. Cool

sounding dogs *pun intended*

In a message dated 12/5/2008 12:30:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

k9gang@... writes:

My co-moderator on the thyroidless group also has Hashis.

But she's taking desiccated thyroid (Armour www.armourthyroid.com)

and has properly tested/treated her adrenals, AND she's doing GREAT!

Oh yea, she's also taking 50mg Iodoral (iodine/iodide).

In my opinion, at the very least, your adrenals will need to be

addressed. You can even get that tested yourself:

http://www.canaryclub.org

Really cute about the new kitties...

I have Basenjis (small barkless cat-like dogs) and one Greyhound

(who's big and barky and waggy). I, um, give themn all 2 drops of 5%

Lugol's iodine in their food every day...

Sam :-D

>

> Hi Sam,

>

> While it might be true that my body needs the iodine, I just can't

handle

> this pain in my neck. I also got the headache which wasn't bad, but

it was

> often. It really worries me about how much pain I was in due to

this swelling in

> my neck. I felt it was too dangerous to continue. I would like some

day to

> eventually buy that doctors book if I ever see it cheap enough to

see what he

> says about iodine specifically if you have Hashi's. It really

worries me that

> maybe other thyroid conditions could take the iodine, but hashi's

shouldn't. I

> think if I saw actual studies done that it was ok, I'd consider

it. I still

> also believe that there should be no reason not to use any form of

iodine as

> opposed to the expensive one that the company sells. That's my

opinion

> though.

>

> Oh and BTW, we are getting two little kitties for my son and

daughter on

> christmas morning. They don't know yet. We lost our long loved cat

of 17 years

> this past spring and we're just now ready to bring some new love

in. We have a

> poem for each kid that will be in a box with a webkinz cat that

matches their

> cat. Each poem is like a guess what your getting and you have to

go find it

> (they will be in our basement). Our neighbor is fostering them for

us till

> christmas eve.

>

> In a message dated 12/5/2008 11:20:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> k9gang@... writes:

>

> , what Gracia said about this is true.

>

> Do you have a puppy? If you do, what would happen if you didn't

feed

> it for 2 days and then only gave it one little cooky? It sure

would

> gobble up that cooky pretty fast, and probably start begging an

> crying for more more MORE! That's sort of what a thyroid gland

will

> do under the same circumstances...it will try to get more. That's

> just what happens.

>

> Maybe take 500-1000mg Vitamin C and that should help a wee bit.

>

> FWIW, one of the signs that my sinuses were finally starting to

clear

> after starting Iodoral was a slight frontal headache and after that

> my nose ran and ran for qute a while and they are perfectly normal

> now.

>

> ...but also please don't forget that other parts of your body also

> need " enough " iodine...skin, brain, bones, sex organs, eyes,

stomach,

> digestive tract, etc etc etc... The " RDA " of iodine is only the

> amount to " prevent goiter " , and completely ignores the rest of the

> body's iodine needs. Isn't that weird?

>

> Sam

> (thyroidless since 1990)

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I'm just curious , do you know what happens to iodine when our thyroids

stop working? Does the thyroid still handle it like it would if the gland

hadn't stopped working? I'm wondering what other things pass through the

thyroid gland that might be effected by it not being up to par.

In a message dated 12/5/2008 1:18:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

res075oh@... writes:

There is no support in credible research for any need to take massive

doses of iodine. There is no theory that I can find that explains why

anyone should need several thousand percent of the RDA of iodine. The

only exception I know is if you were expecting a massive radioactive

fallout in your area. What support there is comes from [to put it

politely] fringe groups and sites that sell iodine; as well as some

anecdotal reports.

I personally doubt that a " shot " thyroid gland would even remove that

much iodine from your blood.

..

>

> Posted by: " tyblossom@... " tyblossom@...

>

<mailto:tyblossom@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20no%20more%20iodine%20for%20me>

> tyblossom <tyblossom>

>

> Fri Dec 5, 2008 9:14 am (PST)

>

> I'm hearing people on the iodine board who are taking how much they are

> being told and they also where having swelling throat problems. I

> think it's too

> dangerous. I'm willing to give things a try and I'm glad I tried it,

> but I

> think if your having problems where you feel like your choking...it'

> s your body

> saying don't do it. I haven't taken any for a few days and my neck still

> hurts. I have a feeling that for some of us, the iodine is going

> there, but

> because our thyroid glad is shot, it's not leaving the gland easily.

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December 5, 2008

, what Gracia said about this is true.

Do you have a puppy? If you do, what would happen if you didn't feed

it for 2 days and then only gave it one little cooky? It sure would

gobble up that cooky pretty fast, and probably start begging an

crying for more more MORE! That's sort of what a thyroid gland will

do under the same circumstances...it will try to get more. That's

just what happens.

Maybe take 500-1000mg Vitamin C and that should help a wee bit.

FWIW, one of the signs that my sinuses were finally starting to clear

after starting Iodoral was a slight frontal headache and after that

my nose ran and ran for qute a while and they are perfectly normal

now.

....but also please don't forget that other parts of your body also

need " enough " iodine...skin, brain, bones, sex organs, eyes, stomach,

digestive tract, etc etc etc... The " RDA " of iodine is only the

amount to " prevent goiter " , and completely ignores the rest of the

body's iodine needs. Isn't that weird?

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

>

> I'm hearing people on the iodine board who are taking how much they

are

> being told and they also where having swelling throat problems. I

think it's too

> dangerous. I'm willing to give things a try and I'm glad I tried

it, but I

> think if your having problems where you feel like your

choking...it's your body

> saying don't do it. I haven't taken any for a few days and my neck

still

> hurts. I have a feeling that for some of us, the iodine is going

there, but

> because our thyroid glad is shot, it's not leaving the gland

easily.

>

> In a message dated 12/5/2008 8:23:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> circe@... writes:

>

> low dose iodine does not work. if your body is starving for

iodine your

> thyroid gland will swell to try and capture it. if you don't want

to take

> enough iodine, do not take any.

> iodine group is there to help ppl take iodine the right way, so it

works.

> gracia

December 5, 2008

My co-moderator on the thyroidless group also has Hashis.

But she's taking desiccated thyroid (Armour www.armourthyroid.com)

and has properly tested/treated her adrenals, AND she's doing GREAT!

Oh yea, she's also taking 50mg Iodoral (iodine/iodide).

In my opinion, at the very least, your adrenals will need to be

addressed. You can even get that tested yourself:

http://www.canaryclub.org

Really cute about the new kitties...

I have Basenjis (small barkless cat-like dogs) and one Greyhound

(who's big and barky and waggy). I, um, give themn all 2 drops of 5%

Lugol's iodine in their food every day...

Sam :-D

>

> Hi Sam,

>

> While it might be true that my body needs the iodine, I just can't

handle

> this pain in my neck. I also got the headache which wasn't bad, but

it was

> often. It really worries me about how much pain I was in due to

this swelling in

> my neck. I felt it was too dangerous to continue. I would like some

day to

> eventually buy that doctors book if I ever see it cheap enough to

see what he

> says about iodine specifically if you have Hashi's. It really

worries me that

> maybe other thyroid conditions could take the iodine, but hashi's

shouldn't. I

> think if I saw actual studies done that it was ok, I'd consider

it. I still

> also believe that there should be no reason not to use any form of

iodine as

> opposed to the expensive one that the company sells. That's my

opinion

> though.

>

> Oh and BTW, we are getting two little kitties for my son and

daughter on

> christmas morning. They don't know yet. We lost our long loved cat

of 17 years

> this past spring and we're just now ready to bring some new love

in. We have a

> poem for each kid that will be in a box with a webkinz cat that

matches their

> cat. Each poem is like a guess what your getting and you have to

go find it

> (they will be in our basement). Our neighbor is fostering them for

us till

> christmas eve.

>

> In a message dated 12/5/2008 11:20:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> k9gang@... writes:

>

> , what Gracia said about this is true.

>

> Do you have a puppy? If you do, what would happen if you didn't

feed

> it for 2 days and then only gave it one little cooky? It sure

would

> gobble up that cooky pretty fast, and probably start begging an

> crying for more more MORE! That's sort of what a thyroid gland

will

> do under the same circumstances...it will try to get more. That's

> just what happens.

>

> Maybe take 500-1000mg Vitamin C and that should help a wee bit.

>

> FWIW, one of the signs that my sinuses were finally starting to

clear

> after starting Iodoral was a slight frontal headache and after that

> my nose ran and ran for qute a while and they are perfectly normal

> now.

>

> ...but also please don't forget that other parts of your body also

> need " enough " iodine...skin, brain, bones, sex organs, eyes,

stomach,

> digestive tract, etc etc etc... The " RDA " of iodine is only the

> amount to " prevent goiter " , and completely ignores the rest of the

> body's iodine needs. Isn't that weird?

>

> Sam

> (thyroidless since 1990)

December 5, 2008

There is no support in credible research for any need to take massive

doses of iodine. There is no theory that I can find that explains why

anyone should need several thousand percent of the RDA of iodine. The

only exception I know is if you were expecting a massive radioactive

fallout in your area. What support there is comes from [to put it

politely] fringe groups and sites that sell iodine; as well as some

anecdotal reports.

I personally doubt that a " shot " thyroid gland would even remove that

much iodine from your blood.

..

>

> Posted by: " tyblossom@... " tyblossom@...

>

<mailto:tyblossom@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20no%20more%20iodine%20for%20me>

> tyblossom <tyblossom>

>

> Fri Dec 5, 2008 9:14 am (PST)

>

> I'm hearing people on the iodine board who are taking how much they are

> being told and they also where having swelling throat problems. I

> think it's too

> dangerous. I'm willing to give things a try and I'm glad I tried it,

> but I

> think if your having problems where you feel like your choking...it'

> s your body

> saying don't do it. I haven't taken any for a few days and my neck still

> hurts. I have a feeling that for some of us, the iodine is going

> there, but

> because our thyroid glad is shot, it's not leaving the gland easily.

December 5, 2008

This is science? You thyroid gland will swell to " capture " iodine you have

ingested. This sounds like something out of a Sci-Fi novel. Please show

me where I could read up on such a thing .

I wonder if my ovaries swell to capture the estrogen I take?

mse

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

>

> low dose iodine does not work. if your body is starving for iodine your

> thyroid gland will swell to try and capture it. if you don't want to take

> enough iodine, do not take any.

> iodine group is there to help ppl take iodine the right way, so it works.

> gracia

>

> That would scare me to try a higher dose when a lower dose has hurt my

> neck.

> I haven't taken any in a day and a half and I can still feel it in my

> neck.

> I do think my body felt a little better and I was less itchy, but the neck

> thing really hurt. I could see maybe taking a lower dose...like breaking

> up a

> tablet into halves or fourths if I could...but more...there's no way I

> would

> try that. I'd be afraid I'd suffocate.

>

> In a message dated 12/2/2008 8:50:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> circe@... writes:

>

> low dose iodine does not work. if your body is starving for it, you will

> need to saturate tissues. most ppl take 50--100mg. iodine/iodide.

> gracia

>

> I just don't feel good. I forgot to mention I had a slight headache too.

> The

>

> neck being sore is bothering me. My body feels ok and my stomach good....I

> know it's quick to judge, but I just think if this was the answer that I'd

> feel

> better all around.

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December 5, 2008

Nope, it's real...read your biology...

BTW, our ovaries also have iodine receptors.

Sam

>

> >

> > low dose iodine does not work. if your body is starving for

iodine your

> > thyroid gland will swell to try and capture it. if you don't

want to take

> > enough iodine, do not take any.

> > iodine group is there to help ppl take iodine the right way, so

it works.

> > gracia

> >

> > That would scare me to try a higher dose when a lower dose has

hurt my

> > neck.

> > I haven't taken any in a day and a half and I can still feel it

in my

> > neck.

> > I do think my body felt a little better and I was less itchy,

but the neck

> > thing really hurt. I could see maybe taking a lower dose...like

breaking

> > up a

> > tablet into halves or fourths if I could...but more...there's no

way I

> > would

> > try that. I'd be afraid I'd suffocate.

> >

> > In a message dated 12/2/2008 8:50:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> > circe@... writes:

> >

> > low dose iodine does not work. if your body is starving for it,

you will

> > need to saturate tissues. most ppl take 50--100mg. iodine/iodide.

> > gracia

> >

> > I just don't feel good. I forgot to mention I had a slight

headache too.

> > The

> >

> > neck being sore is bothering me. My body feels ok and my stomach

good....I

> > know it's quick to judge, but I just think if this was the

answer that I'd

> > feel

> > better all around.

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December 5, 2008

The whole body uses iodine... And you basically pee out whatever amount

of iodine your body does not need. The body really has no mechanisms to

store iodine. You can take 100mg iodine and if your body only needs

10mg, the other 90mg ends up in the potty...

Sam

>

> I'm just curious , do you know what happens to iodine when our

thyroids

> stop working? Does the thyroid still handle it like it would if the

gland

> hadn't stopped working? I'm wondering what other things pass through

the

> thyroid gland that might be effected by it not being up to par.

>

December 5, 2008

,

You wrote:

>

> I personally doubt that a " shot " thyroid gland would even remove that

> much iodine from your blood.

It couldn't. The one gland that would remove that much is the kidney,

and it is one that has been shown likely to fail when iodine toxicity

occurs.

Chuck

December 5, 2008

Hi ,

Throughout this entire discussion, I've seen no mention of a 'load

test' prior to your beginning iodine treatment...did you have one?

December 5, 2008

you are referring to a kelp tablet???? you guys do not know what you are

talking about.

I am a 60yo woman who is 5 ' 2 " tall and takes 100mg Iodoral daily.

Gracia

,

You wrote:

>

> I personally doubt that a " shot " thyroid gland would even remove that

> much iodine from your blood.

It couldn't. The one gland that would remove that much is the kidney,

and it is one that has been shown likely to fail when iodine toxicity

occurs.

Chuck

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your ovaries might swell to capture iodine, b/c they really need it too.

Gracia

This is science? You thyroid gland will swell to " capture " iodine you have

ingested. This sounds like something out of a Sci-Fi novel. Please show

me where I could read up on such a thing .

I wonder if my ovaries swell to capture the estrogen I take?

mse

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your doc won't have a clue about adrenals....or iodine.

gracia

Thanks for the info. I'm going to ask my doctor about the adrenals. Cool

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As do other parts of your body.

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> Get Rid of the Iodine, Get Rid of the Hypothyroidism?

>

> Thursday September 11, 2003

> One Japanese study looked at the frequency of iodine-induced

> /reversible/hypothyroidism. This type of hypothyroidism is not rare,

> and particularly in Japan, where iodine-rich seaweed is freqeuently

> eaten. In looking at 33 different people with hypothyroidism (25

> women, 8 men) ranging in age from 21 to 77, stopped taking any

> iodine-containing drugs and foods (i.e., seaweed products) for a total

> of up to 2 months. Their median TSH level, initially 21.9 was reduced

> to a median of 5.3 mU/L after restricting iodine. 21of the patients

> had a reduction in TSH of more than 50%, 11 became euthyroid, with TSH

> levels within the normal range of 0.3-3.9 mU/L.

>

> In the case of these patients more than half of the patients recovered

> from primary hypothyroidism after restricting iodine intake.

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I _did_ say interesting; not peer reviewed! [ggg] I'm sure not everyone

will agree with it...

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> Posted by: " Sam " k9gang@...

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<mailto:k9gang@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20no%20more%20iodine%20for%20me>

> stealthwind <stealthwind>

>

> Fri Dec 5, 2008 2:17 pm (PST)

>

> Nope, it's real...read your biology...

> BTW, our ovaries also have iodine receptors.

>

> Sam

>

> >

> > This is science? You thyroid gland will swell to " capture " iodine

> you have

> > ingested. This sounds like something out of a Sci-Fi novel.

> Please show

> > me where I could read up on such a thing .

> >

> > I wonder if my ovaries swell to capture the estrogen I take?

> >

> > mse

> >

December 6, 2008

I'm afraid I'll have to plead ignorance. But I believe that in some

percentage of cases the thyroid gland doesn't just stop working, it

totally disappears. And it's obvious that people like Sam who have had

their thyroid gland removed it doesn't work the same; it's gone.

You can Google " hypothyroidism " and find a lot of sites such as this

with good info:

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<http://mayoclinic.com/health/hypothyroidism/DS00353/DSECTION=symptoms>

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And you will find sites with unsupported claims about hypothyroidism.

Hopefully you can tell the difference. I don't know of any that deal

with how a dysfunctional thyroid gland would react to iodine. If it

couldn't get rid of it by converting it to T4 and/or T3 I would suspect

it would just fill up and afterwards have no effect. But that's just a

guess.

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> Posted by: " tyblossom@... " tyblossom@...

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> tyblossom <tyblossom>

>

> Fri Dec 5, 2008 2:16 pm (PST)

>

> I'm just curious , do you know what happens to iodine when our

> thyroids

> stop working? Does the thyroid still handle it like it would if the gland

> hadn't stopped working? I'm wondering what other things pass through the

> thyroid gland that might be effected by it not being up to par.

>

> In a message dated 12/5/2008 1:18:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net> writes:

>

> There is no support in credible research for any need to take massive

> doses of iodine. There is no theory that I can find that explains why

> anyone should need several thousand percent of the RDA of iodine. The

> only exception I know is if you were expecting a massive radioactive

> fallout in your area. What support there is comes from [to put it

> politely] fringe groups and sites that sell iodine; as well as some

> anecdotal reports.

>

> I personally doubt that a " shot " thyroid gland would even remove that

> much iodine from your blood.

>

December 6, 2008

There is no credible research of which I'm aware that supports the

validity of either the skin patch test or the urine loading test. The

skin patch test is totally bogus and the premise upon which the urine

loading test is based is AFAIK totally unsupported. For years

[decades?] the " iodine docs " and their proponents supported this

foolishness, most likely because [in the case of the iodine docs]

everyone fails the tests. And one of the iodine docs conveniently owns

a company that makes and sells iodine products.

But in an article recently posted by Gracia Dr. Brownstein admitted

that the iodine skin patch test " is not sufficiently accurate " [a vast

understatement; it's totally bogus], and further recommended against

using the iodine urine loading test.

If you ever find any credible research that supports the effacy of the

iodine urine loading test I'd appreciate a link.

Thanks,

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>

> Posted by: " cindy.seeley " cindy.seeley@...

>

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> cindy.seeley <cindy.seeley>

>

> Fri Dec 5, 2008 7:39 pm (PST)

>

> Hi ,

>

> Throughout this entire discussion, I've seen no mention of a 'load

> test' prior to your beginning iodine treatment...

> did you have one?

>

December 6, 2008

no. I did see mention of it on one of the sites. Is it something you have

done through your doctor or do yourself?

In a message dated 12/5/2008 7:39:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

cindy.seeley@... writes:

Hi ,

Throughout this entire discussion, I've seen no mention of a 'load

test' prior to your beginning iodine treatment...did you have one?

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Thanks for the information. I do wonder if I was having a bad reaction

to the iodine that most people wouldn't. I know others had it too. Maybe we

have something that's causing it and Gracia doesn't get that same reaction. I

know how it is to believe in something so strongly because it worked so

great for you...

In a message dated 12/6/2008 9:35:54 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

cindy.seeley@... writes:

It is doubtful that your doctor will agree to do it, but I suppose if

you can provide your doctor with a well reasoned discussion of why you

think you are iodine deficient, you may be able to convince him/her.

If not, you can get it done through here:

http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html

Regardless, you need to read the page I've just posted, and read the

page to Iodine Loading Test, just below where it says:

* 24 Hour Iodine Loading Test Now Essential

They tell you nobody should ever start an iodine supplement program

w/o first having an iodine loading test...and that iodine loading test

carries risks of its own to a very very small number of people. That

risk can include ultimately ending up worse than a person was to begin

with and possibly even anyphylactic shock. Anyone considering this

option needs to be fully informed of the dangers so they can make a

decision whether the risks outweigh the potential benefits in their

own particular case. Ideally, the loading test would be done under a

doctor's care, but unfortunately, most doctors will not have anything

to do with this testing (or iodine in general). Breast Cancer Choices

does (or the Iodine Research Project) does provide a list of doctors

who are actively involved in this research and will work with patients

interested in this supplementation, if you are fortunate enough to

live where you have access to one of them.

hth,

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> no. I did see mention of it on one of the sites. Is it something you

have

> done through your doctor or do yourself?

>

> In a message dated 12/5/2008 7:39:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> cindy.seeley@... writes:

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> Hi ,

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> Throughout this entire discussion, I've seen no mention of a 'load

> test' prior to your beginning iodine treatment...did you have one?

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