Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Hi to everyone! I'm new here. I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Maritoni & I'm from the Philippines, I've been diagnosed with hypothyroid more than 10 years ago. At the time of diagnosis, I really did not feel any symptoms, probably because I was not really aware or didn't know much about it although I had infertility problems & endometriosis. I just had a check up because a friend mentioned that my neck looked big (not swollen) that I might have a hidden goiter. Thankfully there wasn't one. The endo prescribed Levothyroxine 25mcg but she never told me that my thyroid problem could be related to my infertility problems. Over the years not really understanding much about the thyroid since I also did not feel any different taking the medication or not, I would sometimes forget to take the meds & did not follow-up regularly with my endo. My endo also didn't really explain much & whenever I had questions, she was always in a hurry to answer probably because she had a long line of patients waiting, so that didn't really encourage me to visit her. I now realize that I was wrong in not monitoring my hypothyroid because the heavy menstrual bleeding I'm experiencing now might be related to it. For the past few years my period has been acting strange-- there would be times that I would have bleeding heavier than normal w/c I thought was because my OB advised me to stop taking birth control pills which I was taking for my endometriosis. Last July the bleeding was so severe that the OB had a D & C done but the bleeding didn't totally stop. I'm now taking Primolut N, & Hemostan to stop it. Also, an ovarian cyst was discovered during the ultrasound. Now my OB wants to do a hysterectomy which I of course don't want. It seems to be the popular solution of doctors to heavy bleeding. When I told my endo about my heavy menses she upped my medication to 50 mcg then to 100 mcg. But I still do not feel any different with the change in dosage. So I was just wondering if anybody else had experienced the same thing? What did you do? Also, is Armour only available through prescription or can it be bought online? I don't think its available here & so my endo won't probably prescribe it. Are there any members who are from the Philippines too & would know if its available here? Are there any other alternatives to Armour which can be bought online? If there is, how will I know what dosage to take & how do I monitor it? Sorry for the long message but I hope someone can help. Thanks! Maritoni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Just something I noticed. I have hypothyroiditis, and also fibromyalgia. I happened to take magnesium because someone said that it would help with the fibromyalgia and my periods lightened up a lot. They also were heavy although I didn't have any actual problems like you had. They just were heavy. So you might want to try and add a magnesium vitamin for a couple of months to see if you also notice a difference. I also noticed with this one vitamin that my eye lashes started to grow and now look great...wierd side effect and also I usually always got up at 3 am to use the bathroom and now I usually always sleep the night through. I don't think you can over take magnesium also unless you took like a ton, so I believe it's one of those that are pretty safe to take. **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Hi! Thanks for your reply. Although I take a multivitamin with magnesium in it, maybe its not enough since it contains only 125mg. I read an article in the internet that women need at least 320 mg. How many mg did you take? Did you take a calcium-magnesium combination or just magnesium? One article mentioned that it causes one to become sleepy, did you become sleepy when you were taking it? Maritoni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I did become sleepy if I took it in the morning, so I took it in the late afternoon. Might want to take it before bed. I'm not sure the mg I take, but it's a product I bought from drugstore.com called slow mag. I heard if you get the slow mag, then it stays in your body longer because it usually tries to go through you quick. I really did notice a difference though......I wonder what thyroid does that probably causes us to have such heavy periods. I too had one of those cysts on my ovary. That was scary, because they didn't know at first that that was what it was. **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Maritoni, Ending your heavy menstrual bleeding is crtical to your ENTIRE health. To do that, you MUST re-normalize your body acidity. Write me or call (843) 455-9208 Dr. Dan On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Maritoni Eleazar < blacksilverphoto@...> wrote: > Hi to everyone! > > I'm new here. I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Maritoni & I'm > from the Philippines, I've been diagnosed with hypothyroid more than > 10 years ago. At the time of diagnosis, I really did not feel any > symptoms, probably because I was not really aware or didn't know much > about it although I had infertility problems & endometriosis. I just > had a check up because a friend mentioned that my neck looked big (not > swollen) that I might have a hidden goiter. Thankfully there wasn't > one. The endo prescribed Levothyroxine 25mcg but she never told me > that my thyroid problem could be related to my infertility problems. > > Over the years not really understanding much about the thyroid since I > also did not feel any different taking the medication or not, I would > sometimes forget to take the meds & did not follow-up regularly with > my endo. My endo also didn't really explain much & whenever I had > questions, she was always in a hurry to answer probably because she > had a long line of patients waiting, so that didn't really encourage > me to visit her. > > I now realize that I was wrong in not monitoring my hypothyroid > because the heavy menstrual bleeding I'm experiencing now might be > related to it. For the past few years my period has been acting > strange-- there would be times that I would have bleeding heavier > than normal w/c I thought was because my OB advised me to stop taking > birth control pills which I was taking for my endometriosis. Last July > the bleeding was so severe that the OB had a D & C done but the > bleeding didn't totally stop. I'm now taking Primolut N, & Hemostan to > stop it. Also, an ovarian cyst was discovered during the ultrasound. > > Now my OB wants to do a hysterectomy which I of course don't want. It > seems to be the popular solution of doctors to heavy bleeding. When I > told my endo about my heavy menses she upped my medication to 50 mcg > then to 100 mcg. But I still do not feel any different with the change > in dosage. > > So I was just wondering if anybody else had experienced the same > thing? What did you do? Also, is Armour only available through > prescription or can it be bought online? I don't think its available > here & so my endo won't probably prescribe it. Are there any members > who are from the Philippines too & would know if its available here? > Are there any other alternatives to Armour which can be bought online? > If there is, how will I know what dosage to take & how do I monitor it? > > Sorry for the long message but I hope someone can help. Thanks! > > Maritoni > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 One thing to do is decrease the amount of meat you are eating. This should slow the bleeding. Because you need a prescription for Armour it is possible to find a doctor who will work with you over the phone. Go to this site to find a Thyroid Doctor who prescribes Armour: http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/#nonus If you can't find a Doc locally, then call or e-mail others to refer you to someone. Be Well, Ali On Sep 11, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Maritoni Eleazar wrote: > Hi to everyone! > > I'm new here. I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Maritoni & I'm > from the Philippines, I've been diagnosed with hypothyroid more than > 10 years ago. At the time of diagnosis, I really did not feel any > symptoms, probably because I was not really aware or didn't know much > about it although I had infertility problems & endometriosis. I just > had a check up because a friend mentioned that my neck looked big (not > swollen) that I might have a hidden goiter. Thankfully there wasn't > one. The endo prescribed Levothyroxine 25mcg but she never told me > that my thyroid problem could be related to my infertility problems. > > Over the years not really understanding much about the thyroid since I > also did not feel any different taking the medication or not, I would > sometimes forget to take the meds & did not follow-up regularly with > my endo. My endo also didn't really explain much & whenever I had > questions, she was always in a hurry to answer probably because she > had a long line of patients waiting, so that didn't really encourage > me to visit her. > > I now realize that I was wrong in not monitoring my hypothyroid > because the heavy menstrual bleeding I'm experiencing now might be > related to it. For the past few years my period has been acting > strange-- there would be times that I would have bleeding heavier > than normal w/c I thought was because my OB advised me to stop taking > birth control pills which I was taking for my endometriosis. Last July > the bleeding was so severe that the OB had a D & C done but the > bleeding didn't totally stop. I'm now taking Primolut N, & Hemostan to > stop it. Also, an ovarian cyst was discovered during the ultrasound. > > Now my OB wants to do a hysterectomy which I of course don't want. It > seems to be the popular solution of doctors to heavy bleeding. When I > told my endo about my heavy menses she upped my medication to 50 mcg > then to 100 mcg. But I still do not feel any different with the change > in dosage. > > So I was just wondering if anybody else had experienced the same > thing? What did you do? Also, is Armour only available through > prescription or can it be bought online? I don't think its available > here & so my endo won't probably prescribe it. Are there any members > who are from the Philippines too & would know if its available here? > Are there any other alternatives to Armour which can be bought online? > If there is, how will I know what dosage to take & how do I monitor > it? > > Sorry for the long message but I hope someone can help. Thanks! > > Maritoni > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Welcome, Maritoni. 25 mcg is a starting dose under the old system, which should have been titrated upwards to 50 mcg in about 6 weeks under the procedure your doctor was following [assuming he tested and followed the TSH indications]. And then to 75 and 100 mcg, until your TSH was within range; and 100 mcg is still a small dose for women on average. I think... Do you have blood tests results you could post? Hopefully a full thyroid profile; but if not at least TSH [include ranges]. One problem with hypothyroidism is that sometimes you can go for extended periods of time with no treatment [or under treatment] and still feel okay. However, I suspect that organ damage is still being done in these cases, which MAY have the effect of making later treatment more difficult. Although many people swear by Armour the tests of which I am aware do not show better results in double blind studies; however many people do assert that they feel better with it. Theoretically you should still have no problem converting T4 to T3 even if you are hypo. Most people take T4 [Levothyroxine] only. I'll let others comment on your menses problems. Luck, > The endo prescribed Levothyroxine 25mcg but she never told me > that my thyroid problem could be related to my infertility problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Maritoni Eleazar wrote: > Hi! Thanks for your reply. Although I take a multivitamin with > magnesium in it, maybe its not enough since it contains only 125mg. I > read an article in the internet that women need at least 320 mg. How > many mg did you take? Did you take a calcium-magnesium combination or > just magnesium? One article mentioned that it causes one to become > sleepy, did you become sleepy when you were taking it? > > Maritoni I take magnesium citrate as it is one of the better absorbed forms. I vacillate between taking 320 mg/day and 640 mg/day. I get mine magnesium citrate in 1 gram (1000 mg) amounts and the amount of magnesium in magnesium citrate is 16%, the rest being citrate. I take mine in divided doses because it's less likely to affect bowels. Magnesium is a solution for constipation and if you were to get some from your local grocery or pharmacy, it would be a drink containing 17,000 mg of magnesium. One shouldn't start with a large dose since that will have bowel consequences. Most of the people who have met success with PVCs using magnesium were taking somewhere around 200-500 mg a day, sometimes more. I don't become sleepy but it apparently can do that. If so, just take it at night. While my multivitamin has some calcium, I don't take any additional calcium because I think the data is building that calcium supplementation is unhealthy in western diets. A recent New Zealand study with a large number of female patients showed that calcium citrate supplementation increased cardiovascular mortality dramatically. Additionally, countries with the highest calcium intake have a much higher number of cardiovascular deaths and bone fracture rates. Vitamin D however may be a significant component missing since most people in developed nations have very low blood levels. -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 you would really be helped by magnesium like http://www.magnesiumforlife.com it is expensive but works great also very important iodine http://www.optimox.com http://www.drbrownstein.com http://www.naturalthyroidchoices.com Gracia Hi! Thanks for your reply. Although I take a multivitamin with magnesium in it, maybe its not enough since it contains only 125mg. I read an article in the internet that women need at least 320 mg. How many mg did you take? Did you take a calcium-magnesium combination or just magnesium? One article mentioned that it causes one to become sleepy, did you become sleepy when you were taking it? Maritoni ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1669 - Release Date: 9/12/2008 2:18 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Hi Gracia, Thanks for the websites, I'll look into them. Maritoni > > > you would really be helped by magnesium like > http://www.magnesiumforlife.com > it is expensive but works great > also very important iodine > http://www.optimox.com > http://www.drbrownstein.com > http://www.naturalthyroidchoices.com > Gracia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 - The TSH test is Not a reliable test to titrate dosages to. She should be titrating to the frees Not the THS. Never treat to the TSH. And Always treat to her symptoms. Use the free T's as a guide, but not an absolute. Nancie -- Re:Heavy menstrual bleeding Welcome, Maritoni. 25 mcg is a starting dose under the old system, which should have been titrated upwards to 50 mcg in about 6 weeks under the procedure your doctor was following [assuming he tested and followed the TSH indications]. And then to 75 and 100 mcg, until your TSH was within range; and 100 mcg is still a small dose for women on average. I think... Do you have blood tests results you could post? Hopefully a full thyroid profile; but if not at least TSH [include ranges]. One problem with hypothyroidism is that sometimes you can go for extended periods of time with no treatment [or under treatment] and still feel okay. However, I suspect that organ damage is still being done in these cases, which MAY have the effect of making later treatment more difficult. Although many people swear by Armour the tests of which I am aware do not show better results in double blind studies; however many people do assert that they feel better with it. Theoretically you should still have no problem converting T4 to T3 even if you are hypo. Most people take T4 [Levothyroxine] only. I'll let others comment on your menses problems. Luck, > The endo prescribed Levothyroxine 25mcg but she never told me > that my thyroid problem could be related to my infertility problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 If I were Maritoni I would kick this doctor to the curb. He is keeping her hypothyroid, and he does not interview his patient well (the heavy menstrual bleeding and weight gain problems). He is leaving her at great risk for future heart disease and diabetes. TSH is only a guide along with FT3 and FT4. As a stand alone it's a joke. Neil Nancie Barnett wrote: > > - > The TSH test is Not a reliable test to titrate dosages to. She should be > titrating to the frees Not the THS. Never treat to the TSH. And Always > treat to her symptoms. Use the free T's as a guide, but not an absolute. > Nancie > > -- Re:Heavy menstrual bleeding > > Welcome, Maritoni. 25 mcg is a starting dose under the old system, > which should have been titrated upwards to 50 mcg in about 6 weeks under > the procedure your doctor was following [assuming he tested and followed > the TSH indications]. And then to 75 and 100 mcg, until your TSH was > within range; and 100 mcg is still a small dose for women on average. I > think... > > Do you have blood tests results you could post? Hopefully a full > thyroid profile; but if not at least TSH [include ranges]. > > One problem with hypothyroidism is that sometimes you can go for > extended periods of time with no treatment [or under treatment] and > still feel okay. However, I suspect that organ damage is still being > done in these cases, which MAY have the effect of making later treatment > more difficult. > > Although many people swear by Armour the tests of which I am aware do > not show better results in double blind studies; however many people do > assert that they feel better with it. Theoretically you should still > have no problem converting T4 to T3 even if you are hypo. Most people > take T4 [Levothyroxine] only. > > I'll let others comment on your menses problems. > > Luck, > > > > The endo prescribed Levothyroxine 25mcg but she never told me > > that my thyroid problem could be related to my infertility problems. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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