Guest guest Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 I have Hashi's and generally take 25 or more mgs. per day. I was at 50, but have gone to a smaller dose as an experiment. No breaking out, so I think I am ready for a smaller dose and will continue at 25+ mgs. per day for now. I was at 50 mgs. per day since last September; I think my antibodies went down because of it; I am also on 5 grains of Armour and 17.5 mgs. of HC, down from 22.5. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Did it cause any sweating?? I use to be cold now am hot dah!! > > I have Hashi's and generally take 25 or more mgs. per day. I was at 50, but have gone to a smaller dose as an experiment. No breaking out, so I think I am ready for a smaller dose and will continue at 25+ mgs. per day for now. I was at 50 mgs. per day since last September; I think my antibodies went down because of it; I am also on 5 grains of Armour and 17.5 mgs. of HC, down from 22.5. > > C. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Vinnie, I have been "hot" for years. Iodine didn't make any difference there. I am one of the hypo's that are heat intolerant, while cold weather such as we have in the winter here in Chicago I find invigorating, except when it is so cold that it aggravates and exacerbates my asthma. Otherwise I don't really mind the cold. I wilt in the heat, though; I feel like someone has picked me up and wrung me out; I get very fatigued when it is hot and humid. It is the combination of heat and humidity that is the worst for me. I have been to places where it is hot, but not humid and while it is uncomfortable, I handle that MUCH better than heat + humidity. I started feeling "hot" in my early 40's. I associated it at the time with peri menopause, but even though it is not as bad as it was, and I am now POST menopause, It is still there. So I am not sure why. As I said, taking iodine hasn't made a whit of difference. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Thanks ,It's just i have never been hot always cold weird course I am doing things differently like eating Selenium (brazil nuts from enriched soil) I am old 65 this summer so am past hot flashes lol.. > > Vinnie, > I have been " hot " for years. Iodine didn't make any difference there. I am one of the hypo's that are heat intolerant, while cold weather such as we have in the winter here in Chicago I find invigorating, except when it is so cold that it aggravates and exacerbates my asthma. Otherwise I don't really mind the cold. I wilt in the heat, though; I feel like someone has picked me up and wrung me out; I get very fatigued when it is hot and humid. It is the combination of heat and humidity that is the worst for me. I have been to places where it is hot, but not humid and while it is uncomfortable, I handle that MUCH better than heat + humidity. I started feeling " hot " in my early 40's. I associated it at the time with peri menopause, but even though it is not as bad as it was, and I am now POST menopause, It is still there. So I am not sure why. As I said, taking iodine hasn't made a whit of difference. > > C. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 I am still at 25 mg been for a month should i be higher?/ > > I have Hashi's and generally take 25 or more mgs. per day. I was at 50, but have gone to a smaller dose as an experiment. No breaking out, so I think I am ready for a smaller dose and will continue at 25+ mgs. per day for now. I was at 50 mgs. per day since last September; I think my antibodies went down because of it; I am also on 5 grains of Armour and 17.5 mgs. of HC, down from 22.5. > > C. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 My husband has hashi's and is on 37.5 mgs. (1/2 of a 50 and 1 - 12.5 mg). His Dr. is Dr. Brownstein too. >I am still at 25 mg been for a month should i be higher?/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Gamma Orizanol (from rice bran oil) works great for Hot flashes and also promotes production of growth hormone. Re: Iodine & Hashi's Thanks ,It's just i have never been hot always cold weird course I am doing things differently like eating Selenium (brazil nuts from enriched soil) I am old 65 this summer so am past hot flashes lol..>> Vinnie,> I have been "hot" for years. Iodine didn't make any difference there. I am one of the hypo's that are heat intolerant, while cold weather such as we have in the winter here in Chicago I find invigorating, except when it is so cold that it aggravates and exacerbates my asthma. Otherwise I don't really mind the cold. I wilt in the heat, though; I feel like someone has picked me up and wrung me out; I get very fatigued when it is hot and humid. It is the combination of heat and humidity that is the worst for me. I have been to places where it is hot, but not humid and while it is uncomfortable, I handle that MUCH better than heat + humidity. I started feeling "hot" in my early 40's. I associated it at the time with peri menopause, but even though it is not as bad as it was, and I am now POST menopause, It is still there. So I am not sure why. As I said, taking iodine hasn't made a whit of difference.> > C.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 I don't know Vinnie. What is right for me might be different for you. Try it and see. We all have to find our optimum dose of Armour, Iodine, HC, whatever that is right for us and works for our bodies. We all have basic nutritional needs, but after that, our needs vary and some might need more of one thing while someone else might need more of something entirely different. I can't tell you what is right for you. Iodine is safe enough, I would think, to experiment with as long as you're not taking HUGE doses, like 100 mgs per day or more. I am presently taking 3 iodoral per day. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Can you please tell me what good effects you've had and what type you take and how much? In a message dated 11/28/2008 12:38:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cccquilter@... writes: I take iodine and I have Hashi's. My antibodies on iodine are almost non-existant. I have had no ill side effects; only positive ones. F. http://catherineshypohelljourney.blogspot.com/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com www.naturalthyroidchoices.com http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/ www.thinkbeforeyoupink.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send blank message to: hypothyroidism-unsubscribe Web Sites: Curing Protocol: http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=842 Forum: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=25 Books: http://curezone.com/books/best/categoryx.asp?CAT=842 Cleansing: http://curezone.com/cleanse/ Liver Flush: http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/ Foods: http://CureZone.com/foods/ Diet: http://CureZone.com/diet/ Teeth: http://curezone.com/dental/ change status to digest: hypothyroidism-digest change to normal: hypothyroidism-normal To subscribe: hypothyroidism-subscribe Have a nice day ! Links **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I take iodine and I have Hashi's. My antibodies on iodine are almost non-existant. I have had no ill side effects; only positive ones. F. http://catherineshypohelljourney.blogspot.com/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com www.naturalthyroidchoices.com http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/ www.thinkbeforeyoupink.org   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 , How much do you take and what do you take? Thanks Venizia > > I take iodine and I have Hashi's. My antibodies on iodine are almost non-existant. I have had no ill side effects; only positive ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > F. > http://catherineshypohelljourney.blogspot.com/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com > www.naturalthyroidchoices.com > http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/ > www.thinkbeforeyoupink.org > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 , You wrote: > > I take iodine and I have Hashi's. My antibodies on iodine are almost > non-existant. I have had no ill side effects; only positive ones. That is the usual end course of the condition. It is the thyroid gland that is the main stimulus of the antibodies. The iodine only accelerates their production. Once the gland is gone, the antibodies subside, usually never to return. That is one reason why I suggested that increasing the antibody intensity might not be all bad. It hastens the eventual stability of a full replacement dose. However, if someone is just starting on the Hashi's roller coaster, stirring up the hornets' nest will probably not be considered beneficial. As many of the papers I posted indicate, excess iodine has been widely implicated in the onset of Hashimoto's. I would count that as an ill side effect. Whether high dose iodine helps with anything after the antibodies disappear is not clear. From what I have read, large doses do seem to act as a mild CNS stimulant. How much do you take, anywhere close to Gracia's 100 mg? Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 iodine does many many things and affects the whole body, but I did not find it to be a stimulant. in fact I was very tired on it in the beginning--maybe b/c I needed higher dose. I could feel it working in my brain, I can feel it in certain parts of my body and it makes me feel stronger/sturdier. Gracia Whether high dose iodine helps with anything after the antibodies disappear is not clear. From what I have read, large doses do seem to act as a mild CNS stimulant. How much do you take, anywhere close to Gracia's 100 mg? Chuck ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1805 - Release Date: 11/22/2008 10:34 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Gracia, You wrote: > > ... it makes me feel > stronger/sturdier. That is one of the effects of a CNS stimulant, probably because it boosts adrenaline and blood sugar. When my wife takes a nap, it is usually right after a cup of coffee. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 On any of the sites that you frequent that deal with iodine are there any explanation of the theory behind the benefit from megadoses of iodine? Pre-human ancestors probably didn't get as much as you take even when they lived in the iodine-rich oceans. And certainly not once they migrated to land. I'm trying to find any theory as to how it could work physiologically [beyond the obvious placebo/psychological/spontaneous remission/coincidence explanations]. Thanks, .. .. > > Posted by: " Gracia " circe@... > <mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Iodine%20%26%20Hashi%27s> > graciabee <graciabee> > > > Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:00 pm (PST) > > > > iodine does many many things and affects the whole body, but I did not > find it to be a stimulant. in fact I was very tired on it in the > beginning--maybe b/c I needed higher dose. I could feel it working in > my brain, I can feel it in certain parts of my body and it makes me > feel stronger/sturdier. > > Gracia > > Whether high dose iodine helps with anything after the antibodies > disappear is not clear. From what I have read, large doses do seem to > act as a mild CNS stimulant. How much do you take, anywhere close to > Gracia's 100 mg? > > Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 I have taken iodoral in the past; right now I am using up a different product I have on hand. Our financial situation is difficult so getting iodoral, which is my preference, is not an easy thing right now. I am hoping that next month I can get more. Iodoral is just one piece of the puzzle for me. As I have dealt with lifelong illness, I have had to do research to put the pieces of my particular puzzle together. As all my fillings have fallen out the mercury isn't such a problem any more; although it did contribute at one time. I now have fillings that are different (composite) and don't bother me like the silver ones did. When I am taking iodine I feel what I would term more clear headed and more functional than I do when I am not able to afford it. One piece of my puzzle was hypoT and getting that optimal was a large piece of my puzzle. I am thinking I am optimal at 3.75 grains. My doctor wants me to be taking iodine, but understands that it is not always financially feasible. I have had toxicity issues that have cleared up a lot with iodine usage. I also have asthma, but am treating that without drugs now VERY successfully; I am having the best Fall in many, many years on a non-drug asthma protocol and only a tiny amount of nebulizing. Tiny is compared to nebulizing several times per day, now down to one time daily some days none. I was mineral deficient and supplementing with minerals has caused my RLS to become non-existant. I have a number of issues from a very poor diet growing up; some of us seem to be more deficient than others despite similar backgrounds; I am one of those. I know what I doing now is working and I feel better than I have for a very long time. I can walk without pain (major accomplishment!!!) and breathe without wheezing (another major accomplishment!). I am still tired at the end of the work day, but jeez, I am 55, so I don't really expect to feel like someone younger; heck, I feel better now than I did at 25, so that is a plus. At 25 I was undiagnosed hypoT and miserable, now I am 55 and can do a full day's work and even overtime now. I couldn't have done that at 25; I was barely coping with life and small children and felt overwhelmed and dealt with mind-numbing fatigue and couldn't sleep. I sleep better now, but it is not perfect yet. All in all, I am very pleased with my progress since my descent into asthma/bronchitis/pneumonia hell last year. F. http://catherineshypohelljourney.blogspot.com/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com www.naturalthyroidchoices.com http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/ www.thinkbeforeyoupink.org   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 wrote: > On any of the sites that you frequent that deal with iodine are there > any explanation of the theory behind the benefit from megadoses of > iodine? Pre-human ancestors probably didn't get as much as you take even > when they lived in the iodine-rich oceans. And certainly not once they > migrated to land. I'm trying to find any theory as to how it could work > physiologically [beyond the obvious placebo/psychological/spontaneous > remission/coincidence explanations]. > > Thanks, > Genes - left overs. A theory to consider is that evolving genes work on the principle of mutation where most mutations are of no value but some give survival advantages that is ENVIRONMENT SPECIFIC. These genes don't necessarily go away when the environment changes except where they generate a survival disadvantage in the new environment, then they start to atrophy (appendix?). I suspect that genes that gave no survival advantages or disadvantages as environments changed may not be discard quickly, but hang around for a long time. Even, when said genes are being used in the current environment, they may provide additional benefits under some limited conditions. -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 hmmm no I am talking about the differene between feeling strong and resilient, like when you were 20yo, as opposed to 50yo Gracia Gracia, You wrote: > > ... it makes me feel > stronger/sturdier. That is one of the effects of a CNS stimulant, probably because it boosts adrenaline and blood sugar. When my wife takes a nap, it is usually right after a cup of coffee. Chuck ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1805 - Release Date: 11/22/2008 10:34 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Gracia, please note that your virus checker is out of date. .. .. > > Posted by: " Gracia " circe@... > <mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Iodine%20%26%20Hashi%27s> > graciabee <graciabee> > > > Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:43 pm (PST) > > > hmmm > no I am talking about the differene between feeling strong and > resilient, like when you were 20yo, as opposed to 50yo > Gracia > > Gracia, > > You wrote: > > > > ... it makes me feel > > stronger/sturdier. > > That is one of the effects of a CNS stimulant, probably because it > boosts adrenaline and blood sugar. When my wife takes a nap, it is > usually right after a cup of coffee. > > Chuck > > ------------ > ---------------------------------------------- > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1805 - Release Date: > 11/22/2008 10:34 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 is there a virus checker I can download for free? too bad I can't use iodine. Gracia Gracia, please note that your virus checker is out of date. . . Recent Activity a.. 5New Members Visit Your Group Health Asthma Triggers How you can identify them. Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Cat Zone on Join a Group all about cats. . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1805 - Release Date: 11/22/2008 10:34 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 You're already using the free version of AVG, which is the same one I use. But the message at the bottom of your post says the " Internal Virus Database is out of date " . You should be able to open the AVG user interface and click on " update " and have it do so. But sometimes there's a problem or corrupted file or maybe your firewall is interfering and it fails to work properly. If it won't update then you could go here for a free download: .. <http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320142.html> .. Or you could check into Avast. I've never used it but have heard good things about it. Note that my message to you probably has a message indicating everything is okay; but that is referring to my message to you. .. .. > > Posted by: " Gracia " circe@... > <mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Iodine%20%26%20Hashi%27s> > graciabee <graciabee> > > > Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:46 pm (PST) > > > is there a virus checker I can download for free? too bad I can't use > iodine. > Gracia > > Gracia, please note that your virus checker is out of date. > > > . > . > > Recent Activity > a.. 5New Members > Visit Your Group > Health > Asthma Triggers > > How you can > > identify them. > > Meditation and > Lovingkindness > > A Group > > to share and learn. > > Cat Zone > on > > Join a Group > > all about cats. > . > > > ------------ > ---------------------------------------------- > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1805 - Release Date: > 11/22/2008 10:34 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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