Re: Low Iodine diet is good for Hashimoto's and relieve HypoT?

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no, low iodine diet would be dangerous for you. join the iodine group and

look at http://www.drbrownstein.com read his books.

Gracia

Hi, all.

There was research report that rich iodine diet for Hashimoto's suffers

would highly risk themselves for the progress of Hypothyroidism, and

intentionally Low Iodine diet would lower or delay the progress of

Hypothyroidism. Is it true? I am Hashimoto's and now dx as

Hypothyroidism, Would low iodine diet be better for me? Thanks

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i have had hashi's for years. treated with synthetic drugs, with persistent side effects. Switched to Armour and am on 50 mg of iodoral daily and have never felt better...

From: fragrance <fragrance_seen@...>Subject: Low Iodine diet is good for Hashimoto's and relieve HypoT?iodine Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:58 AMHi, all.

It is said that rich iodine diet for Hashimoto's suffers

would highly risk themselves for the progress of Hypothyroidism, and

intentionally Low Iodine diet would lower or delay the progress of

Hypothyroidism. Is it true? But others said that low iodine diet would be dangerous. I am really confused about it.

I am Hashimoto's and in an untreated overt Hypothyroidism condition for more than ten years, now just started replacement treatment of T4.

Would low iodine diet be better for me? Thanks

Fragrance

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I rest my case! [ggg]

..

..

>

> Posted by: " Gracia " circe@...

>

<mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Low%20Iodine%20diet%20is%20good%2\

0for%20Hashimoto%27s%20and%20relieve%20HypoT%3F>

> graciabee <graciabee>

>

>

> Tue Sep 9, 2008 9:06 pm (PDT)

>

>

> you are completely wrong here. There are many many thousands of peeps

> who use iodine therapeutically 50--100mg and more, with no harm and

> all the benefits that iodine docs talk about. our experience tells us

> that the credible peer reviewed literature is horse puckey. since we

> have already been poorly treated by the establishment with wrong

> meds/wrong tests, the iodine mythology seals the deal.

> and actually personal reports on iodine use suggest it does cure

> hangnails and cancer.

> Gracia

>

> Fragrance, please be aware there are at least 2 or 3 people on this list

> who take several hundred times the RDA of iodine every day, and

> basically swear by it. While it seems to work for them, there's no

> credible research to support those recommendations.

>

> Also be aware that there's a heck of a lot of credible peer reviewed

> literature that links iodine with Hashimoto's problems. I'd suggest you

> research both viewpoints and decide which is likely to be correct.

> Essentially, they support your exact statement.

>

> I'd suggest you Google " Hashimoto's +iodine " and follow up on some of

> the links. Here's a sample:

> >

> > Natural health practitioners who don't truly understand thyroid

> > function are often quick to tell you that " thyroid problems mean you

> > need *iodine* " or *iodine*-containing herbs or supplements, such as

> > kelp, bladderwrack and bugleweed.

> >

> > If you are truly *iodine* deficient, *iodine* may be able to help your

> > thyroid. One study done in 1998 found that over the past twenty years,

> > the percentage of Americans with low intake of *iodine* has more than

> > quadrupled. Currently about 12 percent of the U.S. population is

> > *iodine* deficient, up from less than 3 percent in the early 1970s.

> > So, for some people, *iodine* deficiency may be a factor in their

> > thyroid problem.

> >

> > But for some people, *iodine* or *iodine*-containing products make

> > worsen autoimmune thyroid problems, both *Hashimoto's* and Graves'

> > disease, and cause enlargement of the thyroid (goiter). Before you

> > start *iodine*, consider having urinary *iodine* measured to see if

> > you have an actual deficiency, and pay close attention to any symptoms

> > that develop after you start to take *iodine*.

> >

>

> You'll also probably find a number of sites where it is claimed that

> iodine will cure anything from hang nails to cancer. You won't find any

> credible research supporting the claims of these sites.

>

> Regards,

>

> .

> .

>

> >

> > Posted by: " fragrance_seen " fragrance_seen@...

> <mailto:fragrance_seen%40>

> > <mailto:fragrance_seen@...

> <mailto:fragrance_seen%40>?Subject=%20Re%

>

3ALow%20Iodine%20diet%20is%20good%20for%20Hashimoto%27s%20and%20relieve%20HypoT%\

3F>

> > fragrance_seen <fragrance_seen

> <fragrance_seen>>

> >

> >

> > Tue Sep 9, 2008 4:44 am (PDT)

> >

> > Hi, all.

> >

> > There was research report that rich iodine diet for Hashimoto's suffers

> > would highly risk themselves for the progress of Hypothyroidism, and

> > intentionally Low Iodine diet would lower or delay the progress of

> > Hypothyroidism. Is it true? I am Hashimoto's and now dx as

> > Hypothyroidism, Would low iodine diet be better for me? Thanks

[Guest guest]

,

I am really confused all about that...

Fragrance

>

> I rest my case! [ggg]

>

>

> .

> .

>

> >

> > Posted by: " Gracia " circe@...

> > <mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Low%20Iodine%20diet%

20is%20good%20for%20Hashimoto%27s%20and%20relieve%20HypoT%3F>

> > graciabee <graciabee>

> >

> >

> > Tue Sep 9, 2008 9:06 pm (PDT)

> >

> >

> > you are completely wrong here. There are many many thousands of

peeps

> > who use iodine therapeutically 50--100mg and more, with no harm

and

> > all the benefits that iodine docs talk about. our experience

tells us

> > that the credible peer reviewed literature is horse puckey. since

we

> > have already been poorly treated by the establishment with wrong

> > meds/wrong tests, the iodine mythology seals the deal.

> > and actually personal reports on iodine use suggest it does cure

> > hangnails and cancer.

> > Gracia

> >

> > Fragrance, please be aware there are at least 2 or 3 people on

this list

> > who take several hundred times the RDA of iodine every day, and

> > basically swear by it. While it seems to work for them, there's no

> > credible research to support those recommendations.

> >

> > Also be aware that there's a heck of a lot of credible peer

reviewed

> > literature that links iodine with Hashimoto's problems. I'd

suggest you

> > research both viewpoints and decide which is likely to be correct.

> > Essentially, they support your exact statement.

> >

> > I'd suggest you Google " Hashimoto's +iodine " and follow up on

some of

> > the links. Here's a sample:

> > >

> > > Natural health practitioners who don't truly understand thyroid

> > > function are often quick to tell you that " thyroid problems

mean you

> > > need *iodine* " or *iodine*-containing herbs or supplements,

such as

> > > kelp, bladderwrack and bugleweed.

> > >

> > > If you are truly *iodine* deficient, *iodine* may be able to

help your

> > > thyroid. One study done in 1998 found that over the past twenty

years,

> > > the percentage of Americans with low intake of *iodine* has

more than

> > > quadrupled. Currently about 12 percent of the U.S. population is

> > > *iodine* deficient, up from less than 3 percent in the early

1970s.

> > > So, for some people, *iodine* deficiency may be a factor in

their

> > > thyroid problem.

> > >

> > > But for some people, *iodine* or *iodine*-containing products

make

> > > worsen autoimmune thyroid problems, both *Hashimoto's* and

Graves'

> > > disease, and cause enlargement of the thyroid (goiter). Before

you

> > > start *iodine*, consider having urinary *iodine* measured to

see if

> > > you have an actual deficiency, and pay close attention to any

symptoms

> > > that develop after you start to take *iodine*.

> > >

> >

> > You'll also probably find a number of sites where it is claimed

that

> > iodine will cure anything from hang nails to cancer. You won't

find any

> > credible research supporting the claims of these sites.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > .

> > .

> >

> > >

> > > Posted by: " fragrance_seen " fragrance_seen@...

> > <mailto:fragrance_seen%40>

> > > <mailto:fragrance_seen@...

> > <mailto:fragrance_seen%40>?Subject=%20Re%

> > 3ALow%20Iodine%20diet%20is%20good%20for%20Hashimoto%27s%20and%

20relieve%20HypoT%3F>

> > > fragrance_seen <fragrance_seen

> > <fragrance_seen>>

> > >

> > >

> > > Tue Sep 9, 2008 4:44 am (PDT)

> > >

> > > Hi, all.

> > >

> > > There was research report that rich iodine diet for Hashimoto's

suffers

> > > would highly risk themselves for the progress of

Hypothyroidism, and

> > > intentionally Low Iodine diet would lower or delay the progress

of

> > > Hypothyroidism. Is it true? I am Hashimoto's and now dx as

> > > Hypothyroidism, Would low iodine diet be better for me? Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

You are receiving conflicting information. The credible peer reviewed

literature that Gracia considers " horse puckey " happens to be accepted

by the educated and intelligent people of the world. You will have to

determine which you consider reliable.

Luck,

..

..

>

> Posted by: " fragrance_seen " fragrance_seen@...

>

<mailto:fragrance_seen@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Low%20Iodine%20diet%20is%20g\

ood%20for%20Hashimoto%27s%20and%20relieve%20HypoT%3F>

> fragrance_seen <fragrance_seen>

>

>

> Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:44 am (PDT)

>

> ,

>

> I am really confused all about that...

>

> Fragrance

>

>

> >

> > I rest my case! [ggg]

> >

> >

> > .

> > .

> >

> > >

> > > Posted by: " Gracia " circe@...

> > > <mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Low%20Iodine%20diet%

> 20is%20good%20for%20Hashimoto%27s%20and%20relieve%20HypoT%3F>

> > > graciabee <graciabee

> <graciabee>>

> > >

> > >

> > > Tue Sep 9, 2008 9:06 pm (PDT)

> > >

> > >

> > > you are completely wrong here. There are many many thousands of

> peeps

> > > who use iodine therapeutically 50--100mg and more, with no harm

> and

> > > all the benefits that iodine docs talk about. our experience

> tells us

> > > that the credible peer reviewed literature is horse puckey. since

> we

> > > have already been poorly treated by the establishment with wrong

> > > meds/wrong tests, the iodine mythology seals the deal.

> > > and actually personal reports on iodine use suggest it does cure

> > > hangnails and cancer.

> > > Gracia

> > >

> > > Fragrance, please be aware there are at least 2 or 3 people on

> this list

> > > who take several hundred times the RDA of iodine every day, and

> > > basically swear by it. While it seems to work for them, there's no

> > > credible research to support those recommendations.

> > >

> > > Also be aware that there's a heck of a lot of credible peer

> reviewed

> > > literature that links iodine with Hashimoto's problems. I'd

> suggest you

> > > research both viewpoints and decide which is likely to be correct.

> > > Essentially, they support your exact statement.

> > >

> > > I'd suggest you Google " Hashimoto's +iodine " and follow up on

> some of

> > > the links. Here's a sample:

> > > >

> > > > Natural health practitioners who don't truly understand thyroid

> > > > function are often quick to tell you that " thyroid problems

> mean you

> > > > need *iodine* " or *iodine*-containing herbs or supplements,

> such as

> > > > kelp, bladderwrack and bugleweed.

> > > >

> > > > If you are truly *iodine* deficient, *iodine* may be able to

> help your

> > > > thyroid. One study done in 1998 found that over the past twenty

> years,

> > > > the percentage of Americans with low intake of *iodine* has

> more than

> > > > quadrupled. Currently about 12 percent of the U.S. population is

> > > > *iodine* deficient, up from less than 3 percent in the early

> 1970s.

> > > > So, for some people, *iodine* deficiency may be a factor in

> their

> > > > thyroid problem.

> > > >

> > > > But for some people, *iodine* or *iodine*-containing products

> make

> > > > worsen autoimmune thyroid problems, both *Hashimoto's* and

> Graves'

> > > > disease, and cause enlargement of the thyroid (goiter). Before

> you

> > > > start *iodine*, consider having urinary *iodine* measured to

> see if

> > > > you have an actual deficiency, and pay close attention to any

> symptoms

> > > > that develop after you start to take *iodine*.

> > > >

> > >

> > > You'll also probably find a number of sites where it is claimed

> that

> > > iodine will cure anything from hang nails to cancer. You won't

> find any

> > > credible research supporting the claims of these sites.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > .

> > > .

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Posted by: " fragrance_seen " fragrance_seen@...

> > > <mailto:fragrance_seen%40>

> > > > <mailto:fragrance_seen@...

> > > <mailto:fragrance_seen%40>?Subject=%20Re%

> > > 3ALow%20Iodine%20diet%20is%20good%20for%20Hashimoto%27s%20and%

> 20relieve%20HypoT%3F>

> > > > fragrance_seen <fragrance_seen

> <fragrance_seen>

> > > <fragrance_seen

> <fragrance_seen>>>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tue Sep 9, 2008 4:44 am (PDT)

> > > >

> > > > Hi, all.

> > > >

> > > > There was research report that rich iodine diet for Hashimoto's

> suffers

> > > > would highly risk themselves for the progress of

> Hypothyroidism, and

> > > > intentionally Low Iodine diet would lower or delay the progress

> of

> > > > Hypothyroidism. Is it true? I am Hashimoto's and now dx as

> > > > Hypothyroidism, Would low iodine diet be better for me? Thanks

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes. It is quite complicated thing.

Actually, I love to have sea food, eg. seafish,shrimp, etc. After I try

avoiding these things, I feel I am getting sick. How can I just have the

pork/duck/beef,,for protein? My daily diet since childhood is always

HIGHLY rich in iodine, and I have iodine salt, too.

Regards,

Fragrance

> > >

> > > I rest my case! [ggg]

> > >

> > >

> > > .

> > > .

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Posted by: " Gracia " circe@

> > > > <mailto:circe@?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Low%20Iodine%20diet%

> > 20is%20good%20for%20Hashimoto%27s%20and%20relieve%20HypoT%3F>

> > > > graciabee <graciabee

> > <graciabee>>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tue Sep 9, 2008 9:06 pm (PDT)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > you are completely wrong here. There are many many thousands of

> > peeps

> > > > who use iodine therapeutically 50--100mg and more, with no harm

> > and

> > > > all the benefits that iodine docs talk about. our experience

> > tells us

> > > > that the credible peer reviewed literature is horse puckey.

since

> > we

> > > > have already been poorly treated by the establishment with wrong

> > > > meds/wrong tests, the iodine mythology seals the deal.

> > > > and actually personal reports on iodine use suggest it does cure

> > > > hangnails and cancer.

> > > > Gracia

> > > >

> > > > Fragrance, please be aware there are at least 2 or 3 people on

> > this list

> > > > who take several hundred times the RDA of iodine every day, and

> > > > basically swear by it. While it seems to work for them, there's

no

> > > > credible research to support those recommendations.

> > > >

> > > > Also be aware that there's a heck of a lot of credible peer

> > reviewed

> > > > literature that links iodine with Hashimoto's problems. I'd

> > suggest you

> > > > research both viewpoints and decide which is likely to be

correct.

> > > > Essentially, they support your exact statement.

> > > >

> > > > I'd suggest you Google " Hashimoto's +iodine " and follow up on

> > some of

> > > > the links. Here's a sample:

> > > > >

> > > > > Natural health practitioners who don't truly understand

thyroid

> > > > > function are often quick to tell you that " thyroid problems

> > mean you

> > > > > need *iodine* " or *iodine*-containing herbs or supplements,

> > such as

> > > > > kelp, bladderwrack and bugleweed.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you are truly *iodine* deficient, *iodine* may be able to

> > help your

> > > > > thyroid. One study done in 1998 found that over the past

twenty

> > years,

> > > > > the percentage of Americans with low intake of *iodine* has

> > more than

> > > > > quadrupled. Currently about 12 percent of the U.S. population

is

> > > > > *iodine* deficient, up from less than 3 percent in the early

> > 1970s.

> > > > > So, for some people, *iodine* deficiency may be a factor in

> > their

> > > > > thyroid problem.

> > > > >

> > > > > But for some people, *iodine* or *iodine*-containing products

> > make

> > > > > worsen autoimmune thyroid problems, both *Hashimoto's* and

> > Graves'

> > > > > disease, and cause enlargement of the thyroid (goiter). Before

> > you

> > > > > start *iodine*, consider having urinary *iodine* measured to

> > see if

> > > > > you have an actual deficiency, and pay close attention to any

> > symptoms

> > > > > that develop after you start to take *iodine*.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > You'll also probably find a number of sites where it is claimed

> > that

> > > > iodine will cure anything from hang nails to cancer. You won't

> > find any

> > > > credible research supporting the claims of these sites.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > .

> > > > .

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Posted by: " fragrance_seen " fragrance_seen@

> > > > <mailto:fragrance_seen%40>

> > > > > <mailto:fragrance_seen@

> > > > <mailto:fragrance_seen%40>?Subject=%20Re%

> > > > 3ALow%20Iodine%20diet%20is%20good%20for%20Hashimoto%27s%20and%

> > 20relieve%20HypoT%3F>

> > > > > fragrance_seen <fragrance_seen

> > <fragrance_seen>

> > > > <fragrance_seen

> > <fragrance_seen>>>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Tue Sep 9, 2008 4:44 am (PDT)

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi, all.

> > > > >

> > > > > There was research report that rich iodine diet for

Hashimoto's

> > suffers

> > > > > would highly risk themselves for the progress of

> > Hypothyroidism, and

> > > > > intentionally Low Iodine diet would lower or delay the

progress

> > of

> > > > > Hypothyroidism. Is it true? I am Hashimoto's and now dx as

> > > > > Hypothyroidism, Would low iodine diet be better for me? Thanks

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

it is not really a complicated thing! allopathic medicine believes that you

don't need iodine/iodide.

i have taken Iodoral for a few years now (100mg) and it is the one thing that

has been huge for my recovery. ppl who take iodine/iodide have found it to be

very necessary, in spite of what docs say. you will have to decide for

yourself.

Gracia

Yes. It is quite complicated thing.

Actually, I love to have sea food, eg. seafish,shrimp, etc. After I try

avoiding these things, I feel I am getting sick. How can I just have the

pork/duck/beef,,for protein? My daily diet since childhood is always

HIGHLY rich in iodine, and I have iodine salt, too.

Regards,

Fragrance

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Gracia,

Do you have HASHIMOTOS and do you know if it¹s safe or even OK for a

hashimotos patient to take idoral?

I am thrinking of haivng an iodine load test but have Hashimotos and HypoT

with goiter.

sue

On 9/16/08 7:14 AM, " Gracia " <circe@...> wrote:

>

> it is not really a complicated thing! allopathic medicine believes that you

> don't need iodine/iodide.

> i have taken Iodoral for a few years now (100mg) and it is the one thing that

> has been huge for my recovery. ppl who take iodine/iodide have found it to

> be very necessary, in spite of what docs say. you will have to decide for

> yourself.

> Gracia

[Guest guest]

I don't know how many Hashi's people Gracia knows who are also taking

Iodoral or Lugol's, but I sure do know a whole passle. The things

they are doing that is working seem to be " properly " addressing

adrenals (both cortisol and aldosterone if needed), supplementing any

mineral/vit deficiencies, and taking measures to ensure (via salt

push and/or grams of vit c) any detox symptoms are minimal (detoxing

bromide can be interesting).

So far, from what I've seen, Iodoral and Lugol's appear to be helping

rather than harming. You're on the iodine group...ask them there. My

co-moderator on the thyroidless group has Hashi's and is on Iodoral

and doing very well.

But here's one thing I have to stress, everyone that considers taking

Iodoral or Lugol's needs to do the same...it's not just those with

antibodies. The 2 biggest, and most common, issues I hear about all

the time are directly related to not 'properly' addressing any

adrenal issues and not properly addressing detoxing of bromide.

Sam

>

> >

> > it is not really a complicated thing! allopathic medicine

believes that you

> > don't need iodine/iodide.

> > i have taken Iodoral for a few years now (100mg) and it is the

one thing that

> > has been huge for my recovery. ppl who take iodine/iodide have

found it to

> > be very necessary, in spite of what docs say. you will have to

decide for

> > yourself.

> > Gracia

[Guest guest]

I agree. Brownstein wrote a whole book about treating hashis with iodine.

http://www.drbrownstein.com

Gracia

today I did my first Dx of a goiter! I told the girl " do you know you have a

goiter? " and she said what's a goiter?! I'm starting her on iodine

Gracia

I don't know how many Hashi's people Gracia knows who are also taking

Iodoral or Lugol's, but I sure do know a whole passle. The things

they are doing that is working seem to be " properly " addressing

adrenals (both cortisol and aldosterone if needed), supplementing any

mineral/vit deficiencies, and taking measures to ensure (via salt

push and/or grams of vit c) any detox symptoms are minimal (detoxing

bromide can be interesting).

So far, from what I've seen, Iodoral and Lugol's appear to be helping

rather than harming. You're on the iodine group...ask them there. My

co-moderator on the thyroidless group has Hashi's and is on Iodoral

and doing very well.

But here's one thing I have to stress, everyone that considers taking

Iodoral or Lugol's needs to do the same...it's not just those with

antibodies. The 2 biggest, and most common, issues I hear about all

the time are directly related to not 'properly' addressing any

adrenal issues and not properly addressing detoxing of bromide.

Sam

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I am really amazed, all " official " medical books said that " high iodine

is the " possible cause " of Hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's), they quoted

examples of Japanese high iodine diet that proves they are prone to

Hashimoto's Hypothyroidism.

Fragrance

>

>

> I agree. Brownstein wrote a whole book about treating hashis with

iodine.

> http://www.drbrownstein.com

> Gracia

> today I did my first Dx of a goiter! I told the girl " do you know you

have a goiter? " and she said what's a goiter?! I'm starting her on

iodine

> Gracia

>

> I don't know how many Hashi's people Gracia knows who are also taking

> Iodoral or Lugol's, but I sure do know a whole passle. The things

> they are doing that is working seem to be " properly " addressing

> adrenals (both cortisol and aldosterone if needed), supplementing any

> mineral/vit deficiencies, and taking measures to ensure (via salt

> push and/or grams of vit c) any detox symptoms are minimal (detoxing

> bromide can be interesting).

>

> So far, from what I've seen, Iodoral and Lugol's appear to be helping

> rather than harming. You're on the iodine group...ask them there. My

> co-moderator on the thyroidless group has Hashi's and is on Iodoral

> and doing very well.

>

> But here's one thing I have to stress, everyone that considers taking

> Iodoral or Lugol's needs to do the same...it's not just those with

> antibodies. The 2 biggest, and most common, issues I hear about all

> the time are directly related to not 'properly' addressing any

> adrenal issues and not properly addressing detoxing of bromide.

>

> Sam

>

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[Guest guest]

That¹s like being amazed at the ³official Bible² on the

parts you don¹t want to believe to be true.

Just a thought.

sue

On 9/17/08 1:23 AM, " fragrance_seen " <fragrance_seen@...> wrote:

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> I am really amazed, all " official " medical books said that " high iodine

> is the " possible cause " of Hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's), they quoted

> examples of Japanese high iodine diet that proves they are prone to

> Hashimoto's Hypothyroidism.

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> Fragrance

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[Guest guest]

you can read about the history of iodine use at http://www.optimox.com click

on research.

Gracia

I am really amazed, all " official " medical books said that " high iodine

is the " possible cause " of Hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's), they quoted

examples of Japanese high iodine diet that proves they are prone to

Hashimoto's Hypothyroidism.

Fragrance

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> I agree. Brownstein wrote a whole book about treating hashis with

iodine.

> http://www.drbrownstein.com

> Gracia

> today I did my first Dx of a goiter! I told the girl " do you know you

have a goiter? " and she said what's a goiter?! I'm starting her on

iodine

> Gracia

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