Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Chey, It is not unimportant! My doctor believes that precipitating emotional trauma may be a BIG factor in developing MS. I have been a nervous wreck my entire life! I think you are on the right track!! I am trying to be stronger!! Marcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 I mean did you experienxe a trauma in the years BEFORE MS or an other illness broke out?? > I know exactly why MS showed it's head. I think I had it around 17 > but it was just a numbness near the waist that lasted a few days. > Then in my 20's my ankles would just let go and I'd fall. > > But my MS really woke up when I was under a lot of stress because I > went back to school after 15 years. > > I went to McGill university for a bachelor in teaching then spend > the next years trying to teach. > > But because I was not good in discipline I always got run over by > the students nomatter what their age. This caused a lot of stress > for me because I wanted so much to be a good teacher. I had to stop > in '95 because of MS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Yes… do I need to say more than that… Let’s just say I had huge emotional stressors pretty much all my life… From: cheystay [mailto:c_chey@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 3:06 PM low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] important question!! Maybe it seems unimportant to you, but its very important to my " resaerch " ; DID A TRAUMA OCCUR IN THE YEARS BEFORE YOUR ILLNES BROKE OUT? Can be a personal trauma, accident, operation, devorce, anything. Pls help me find out more. Chey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Hmmmmmmm........ Well, now that you mention it. I think the stock market/trading brought out a lot of it. ----- Original Message ----- From: cheystay low dose naltrexone Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 15:05 Subject: [low dose naltrexone] important question!! Maybe it seems unimportant to you, but its very important to my "resaerch";DID A TRAUMA OCCUR IN THE YEARS BEFORE YOUR ILLNES BROKE OUT?Can be a personal trauma, accident, operation, devorce, anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Trauma! hell yes I had two individual cases one case of whiplash and one where I clonked myself on the head so hard I actually saw stars, well bright pinpoints of light anyway.this was only two months before my first episode. My brother had whiplash about three months before his. Reg. -------Original Message------- From: low dose naltrexone Date: 01/27/04 13:07:46 low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] important question!! Maybe it seems unimportant to you, but its very important to my "resaerch";DID A TRAUMA OCCUR IN THE YEARS BEFORE YOUR ILLNES BROKE OUT?Can be a personal trauma, accident, operation, devorce, anything.Pls help me find out more.Chey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:05:32 -0000, you wrote: >DID A TRAUMA OCCUR IN THE YEARS BEFORE YOUR ILLNES BROKE OUT? No. It just slowly arrived over about 22 years. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Chey, I have always had emotional problems, too. I'm too sensitive and I've always had trouble getting by in life and I think the high stress I've experienced all my life finally caught up with me one day. Right before I was diagnosed, I was having a lot of stress in a job, due to some sarcastic people working in my dept. who would talk and make fun of people behine their backs and this caused me a lot of stress. Angie----- Original Message -----From: marciemjm@...Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:20:07 ESTlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] important question!!Chey, It is not unimportant! My doctor believes that precipitating emotional trauma may be a BIG factor in developing MS. I have been a nervous wreck my entire life! I think you are on the right track!! I am trying to be stronger!! Marcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 I have had the theory that ms is triggered by emotional issues. Everyone I have met on line with ms has emotional hurts. I know everyone in life hurts at one time or another, but I think ms people are more sensitive or their hurts are more severe or longer lasting. For me I was born and my sister hated me. (she was 4) I wonder where all her anger came from?? She was close with my mom, and we lived somewhat isolated. I remember being angry in Kindergarten!! That started a life long pattern of hurt and isolation. When I was 16 I found happiness in drinking...and the love I craved from guys. It wasn't until I was diagnosed with ms that I was able to break away from the abusive sister/mother situation...and then find women who could truly be my friends and accept me for who I was. Now, I feel that I am getting better everyday. Stronger emotionally, spiritually and physically. I have gone from a bitter person to a forgiving person, full of faith, love and friendship.... Now if I could only run!!! just wanted to share...these posts triggered something in me!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 I think that once we accept the fact that we have this damn disease we find another purpose in life. I know that I feel very alone so I do a lot of thinking. To keep myself occupied I started to write and found that I love it. They say that most authors don't start their career until they turn 50 so I qualify there. I've got to do something for a living because I've found that nobody wants to hire a person who has MS. I've recently heard that even the MS Society doesn't hire people who have MS. You can volunteer all you want but you can't get a pay check if you have MS. I'd like to find out if that's really true. I hope it's not but I can't say that it would surprise me. You never were life is going to lead you as those of us who have MS have certainly learned. We just have to pick up the pieces and move on as best we can. Best Wishes, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Chey, yes, I went through severe trauma many years before I developed MS. My life from about age 7 to 31 was fairly traumatic, but there was one event that was extreme. I wouldn't say my life has been particularly traumatic for the last 20 years, although there's always been a lot of stress. Galoux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Chey, a P.S. to my last message: I don't know if the time factor between trauma and development with MS has anything to do with your research, but I should point out that I had about 15 stressful but no longer traumatic years before the development of the MS. Galoux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 YOU MIGHT HAVE HIT ON SOMETHING, MAYBE WITH ME ANYWAYS. IT MADE ME STOP AND READ YOUR LETTER A FEW TIMES. LOVE YA BEANER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Thank you all so much for sharing. I'm making a list with just first names and a short discribsion of the trauma. I want to add the time between last trauma and first symptoms. Please Lori, Rag, , Cabbie and Galoux, can you tell me? So far I have 10 ppl in the list. Also I wanna make a list of ppl who did not have a trauma or don't remember. But so far, excluding Steve, it seems like I am on the right track. I'm going to present the list to a group of doctors (regular and alternative meds) and try find out if we can do something with it. Please keep your stories coming, for all the LDN user-stories are important, not just MS. Maybe better to my personal e-mail? c_chey@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 In 1984, I was involved in an auto accident. Six months later, I developed my first symptoms, which, at the time, were diagnosed as the result of spinal cord compression caused by a herniated disk. In 1999, while going through a particularly brutal divorce, I suffered my first and ONLY exacerbation. From: cheystay [mailto:c_chey@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:55 AMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: important question!! Thank you all so much for sharing. I'm making a list with just first names and a short discribsion of the trauma. I want to add the time between last trauma and first symptoms. Please Lori, Rag, , Cabbie and Galoux, can you tell me? So far I have 10 ppl in the list. Also I wanna make a list of ppl who did not have a trauma or don't remember. But so far, excluding Steve, it seems like I am on the right track.I'm going to present the list to a group of doctors (regular and alternative meds) and try find out if we can do something with it.Please keep your stories coming, for all the LDN user-stories are important, not just MS. Maybe better to my personal e-mail? c_chey@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hi Chey, We have discussed this in our PLS group and a significant proportion of us, myself included, had what we described as " toxic stress " in the 2 to 5 years before our symptoms started. Toxic stress was defined as unrelenting severe stress (or negativity) unlike that at any time previously in our lives. cheystay wrote: > Maybe it seems unimportant to you, but its very important to > my " resaerch " ; > > DID A TRAUMA OCCUR IN THE YEARS BEFORE YOUR ILLNES BROKE OUT? > Can be a personal trauma, accident, operation, devorce, anything. > > Pls help me find out more. > Chey -- . ,-._|\ Covington / Oz \ \_,--.x/ v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 I was going through a lot of stress plus working a lot of hard hours. then I got a divorce and one month after the divorce I got my first symptom. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: " cheystay " <c_chey@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 3:05 PM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] important question!! > Maybe it seems unimportant to you, but its very important to > my " resaerch " ; > > DID A TRAUMA OCCUR IN THE YEARS BEFORE YOUR ILLNES BROKE OUT? > Can be a personal trauma, accident, operation, devorce, anything. > > Pls help me find out more. > Chey > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 I know this is not true. A person with MS works for the Rio Grande All American Chapter in Albuquerque NM. I think if a person has a positive attitude and has faith, they can show the world that MS is not the most important think in your life. You are important and need to like yourself, then the world will like you too. Good luck ----- Original Message ----- From: chrdana7@... low dose naltrexone Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: important question!! I think that once we accept the fact that we have this damn disease we find another purpose in life. I know that I feel very alone so I do a lot of thinking. To keep myself occupied I started to write and found that I love it. They say that most authors don't start their career until they turn 50 so I qualify there. I've got to do something for a living because I've found that nobody wants to hire a person who has MS. I've recently heard that even the MS Society doesn't hire people who have MS. You can volunteer all you want but you can't get a pay check if you have MS. I'd like to find out if that's really true. I hope it's not but I can't say that it would surprise me. You never were life is going to lead you as those of us who have MS have certainly learned. We just have to pick up the pieces and move on as best we can. Best Wishes, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Helen, I'm happy to hear that someone who has MS is working for NMSS. I was shocked and disappointed when I heard that but I was hoping that it wasn't true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 helen, may I disagree with you? If one becomes very disabled, MS becomes your most important fight in your live. Positivity contributes to that fight and in your self-love. The world likes positive ppl, but not ppl who lie. For me my MS is very important, I am positive and, as far as I can see, liked by others. I know a lot of other ppl who have MS, are liked, but for whom MS is important in their lives. I'm glad to read that you work for the MS society. Chey > I know this is not true. A person with MS works for the Rio Grande All American Chapter in Albuquerque NM. > I think if a person has a positive attitude and has faith, they can show the world that MS is not the most important think in your life. You are important and need to like yourself, then the world will like you too. > Good luck > ----- Original Message ----- > From: chrdana7@c... > low dose naltrexone > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:38 PM > Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: important question!! > > > I think that once we accept the fact that we have this damn disease we find another purpose in life. I know that I feel very alone so I do a lot of thinking. To keep myself occupied I started to write and found that I love it. They say that most authors don't start their career until they turn 50 so I qualify there. I've got to do something for a living because I've found that nobody wants to hire a person who has MS. I've recently heard that even the MS Society doesn't hire people who have MS. You can volunteer all you want but you can't get a pay check if you have MS. I'd like to find out if that's really true. I hope it's not but I can't say that it would surprise me. You never were life is going to lead you as those of us who have MS have certainly learned. We just have to pick up the pieces and move on as best we can. Best Wishes, Chris > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 You must be kidding-- not this helen ----- Original Message ----- From: <chrdana7@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: important question!! > Helen, > I'm happy to hear that someone who has MS is working for NMSS. I was shocked and disappointed when I heard that but I was hoping that it wasn't true. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 I wasn't assuming that you worked for the NMSS. You clearly stated that you knew someone did work for the chapter in Arizona. Someone else assumed it was you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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