Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hey there no worries they got the powder n to make the capsules properly ReVia is the American and Candian maker of 50 mg tablets of Naltrexone which if bought in that form need to be crushed then made into the capsules with filler. This way no need to crush the tablets which someone mentioned had filler in them already… Just put the powder straight Naltrexone in the capsule with a certain amount of filler. Is your pharmacy crushing and then compounding instead of using the straight Naltrexone powder? From: Kathy Penrose [mailto:penrose@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:46 PM Cc: Hi everyone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Revia , I am doing revia. It is the Canadian Naltrexone. So same thing. Kathy Penrose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Just can't crush up a pill and take 3 or 4.5 MG of the powder, you have to measure how much powder you have then take .06 or .09 of whatever you have. If it's 200 MG total, then you'd take 12 MG or 18 MG of the powder per day. I guess making it liquid with 50 ML would match the 50 MG naltrexone, but you'd have 150 or so MG of filler in the mixture too. So that's the difference between getting pure bulk naltrexone powder, and the 50 MG pills which is made with filler already. ----- Original Message ----- From: I AM CANADIAN low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 14:08 Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Revia Hey there no worries they got the powder n to make the capsules properly ReVia is the American and Candian maker of 50 mg tablets of Naltrexone which if bought in that form need to be crushed then made into the capsules with filler. This way no need to crush the tablets which someone mentioned had filler in them already… Just put the powder straight Naltrexone in the capsule with a certain amount of filler. Is your pharmacy crushing and then compounding instead of using the straight Naltrexone powder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Larry I don’t understand why you replied to my thread with this selecting my last excerpt which had nothing to do with mixing with liquid etc… Also there are several in countries that can’t get powder form taking it that way successfully so it must work for some when there is no other choice no need to be a killjoy. It may not be as good as getting it with pure powder but in places such as Brazil where a member of MS Friends is located her only hope is to crush a pill right now and that’s better than no Naltrexone right? Right. This reply of mine you have replied to was to a person whose pharmacy is using ReVia to fill her prescription. I’d really like it if a doctor joined this thread and a compounding pharmacist so we could get actual medical views instead of say so views… I’m not saying this to be mean but I am kind of tired of seeing so and so says this well so and so says this it’s like there are separate camps with their own views that they try to put above another’s views instead of just getting along and enjoying the fact that in whatever way we each take it it works for us. So for some they take it with distilled water and it works. For some their compounders can only get ReVia pills that they crush and it works fine for them. For some they do it as per Bihari’s prescription. For some Lawrence. For some their own beliefs made from what many many people do and what works for them. Another thing that gets me is when people meet someone interested in the drug and the person practically speaks as though they have a medical degree telling them what specific dosage they should take instead of saying here join this group and this group learn from others and decide what you feel more comfortable with… and here are some info sites and doctors to talk to. Go and do your own research and decide for yourself… I wish people would be less biased and allow for others to make their own way without trying to belittle them etc… it’s almost as though Bihari is Catholicism and Lawrence is Protestantism… the two have a uniting belief but different ways of practicing and then there are non worshippers to specific beliefs like Bihari and Lawrence who do their own thing taking the best of the advice out there and making it work for them in their own ways… but main stream no no’s them… Okay my rant is over…. Sorry but I still don’t get this response to the thread at the point it is at. From: LarryGC [mailto:larrygc@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:52 PM low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Revia Just can't crush up a pill and take 3 or 4.5 MG of the powder, you have to measure how much powder you have then take .06 or .09 of whatever you have. If it's 200 MG total, then you'd take 12 MG or 18 MG of the powder per day. I guess making it liquid with 50 ML would match the 50 MG naltrexone, but you'd have 150 or so MG of filler in the mixture too. So that's the difference between getting pure bulk naltrexone powder, and the 50 MG pills which is made with filler already. ----- Original Message ----- From: I AM CANADIAN low dose naltrexone@groupscom Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 14:08 Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Revia Hey there no worries they got the powder n to make the capsules properly ReVia is the American and Candian maker of 50 mg tablets of Naltrexone which if bought in that form need to be crushed then made into the capsules with filler. This way no need to crush the tablets which someone mentioned had filler in them already… Just put the powder straight Naltrexone in the capsule with a certain amount of filler. Is your pharmacy crushing and then compounding instead of using the straight Naltrexone powder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 , Can you fill us in re your dad's cancer? What kind? Has he started LDN yet? Thanks Don Schultz -----Original Message-----From: pete/lisa [mailto:petelisa@...]Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:46 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] ReVia I had a look at the LDN website, and it says there, some pharmacies use naltrexone powder and some crush the 50 mg tabs to make 4.5 mg capsules. When the website editor returns from his holiday I will e-mail him to clarify this. My understanding is the 50 mg tabs are just that... 50 mg tabs. No filler. Any pharmacists out there???? My Dad is taking this for cancer, It is VERY important he gets the proper dose. Thanks in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hi Don, My Dad has had his kidney removed due to Renal Cell Carcinoma. That was in April 03. Kidney cancer is chemoresistant so there is no follow-up for RCC patients, just watch and wait (and pray for clear scans). He has been in remission now for 10 months, and appears very healthy. He started the LDN in June 03.(4.5mg.......I hope !) Of course we have no idea if it is the LDN that is keeping him in remission or his own immune system. I would love to think the LDN is helping and that in 30 years time we will all marvel that we were the early believers in it! Just let me know if you have any questions. in Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Schultz low dose naltrexone Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:15 AM Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] ReVia , Can you fill us in re your dad's cancer? What kind? Has he started LDN yet? Thanks Don Schultz -----Original Message-----From: pete/lisa [mailto:petelisa@...]Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:46 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] ReVia I had a look at the LDN website, and it says there, some pharmacies use naltrexone powder and some crush the 50 mg tabs to make 4.5 mg capsules. When the website editor returns from his holiday I will e-mail him to clarify this. My understanding is the 50 mg tabs are just that... 50 mg tabs. No filler. Any pharmacists out there???? My Dad is taking this for cancer, It is VERY important he gets the proper dose. Thanks in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Yep I think you are right. I can't imagine a 50mg tab would weigh that (not that I have seen one). I think I will call my Dad's pharmacist and try and figure this out. I will let you know what he says. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: LarryGC low dose naltrexone Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] ReVia That's what I want to know also. I haven't taken many drugs in my day, but I can't recall ever seeing any pill that was pure like that. I guess you'd have to crush up a pill and weigh it. If it's 50 MG, then it's pure naltrexone, but I'm under the impression you'd have like 150-200 MG of powder when you're done. I really don't know, but it's something that came to mind... it's something to take into consideration. I guess I'm going to have to order a 28 count from Mexico and see for myself what ReVia is. ----- Original Message ----- From: pete/lisa low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 16:45 Subject: [low dose naltrexone] ReVia I had a look at the LDN website, and it says there, some pharmacies use naltrexone powder and some crush the 50 mg tabs to make 4.5 mg capsules. When the website editor returns from his holiday I will e-mail him to clarify this. My understanding is the 50 mg tabs are just that... 50 mg tabs. No filler. Any pharmacists out there???? My Dad is taking this for cancer, It is VERY important he gets the proper dose. Thanks in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 WHAT are you talking about? I was SIMPLY pointing out that a 50 MG pill of ReVia is not equivalent to 50 MG of naltrexone powder. IN other words, I wouldn't want someone crushing up the pill and just taking 3MG of it. If they did, they would NOT be getting 3 MG of Naltrexone, they would be getting 3 MG of filler+naltrexone. It's something to be aware of. Wasn't a challenge, wasn't a comparison, was simple Mathematics. Something to be AWARE of if you're using 50 MG ReVia tablets, vs. getting naltrexone powder in bulk. Naltrexone powder can be mixed with filler in caps, or not. ReVia HAS Filler IN it, that's the point. You see to have totally missed my point. Your rant had NOTHING to do with what I was saying, at all. ----- Original Message ----- From: I AM CANADIAN low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 15:57 Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Revia Larry I don’t understand why you replied to my thread with this selecting my last excerpt which had nothing to do with mixing with liquid etc… Also there are several in countries that can’t get powder form taking it that way successfully so it must work for some when there is no other choice no need to be a killjoy. It may not be as good as getting it with pure powder but in places such as Brazil where a member of MS Friends is located her only hope is to crush a pill right now and that’s better than no Naltrexone right? Right. This reply of mine you have replied to was to a person whose pharmacy is using ReVia to fill her prescription. I’d really like it if a doctor joined this thread and a compounding pharmacist so we could get actual medical views instead of say so views… I’m not saying this to be mean but I am kind of tired of seeing so and so says this well so and so says this it’s like there are separate camps with their own views that they try to put above another’s views instead of just getting along and enjoying the fact that in whatever way we each take it it works for us. So for some they take it with distilled water and it works. For some their compounders can only get ReVia pills that they crush and it works fine for them. For some they do it as per Bihari’s prescription. For some Lawrence. For some their own beliefs made from what many many people do and what works for them. Another thing that gets me is when people meet someone interested in the drug and the person practically speaks as though they have a medical degree telling them what specific dosage they should take instead of saying here join this group and this group learn from others and decide what you feel more comfortable with… and here are some info sites and doctors to talk to. Go and do your own research and decide for yourself… I wish people would be less biased and allow for others to make their own way without trying to belittle them etc… it’s almost as though Bihari is Catholicism and Lawrence is Protestantism… the two have a uniting belief but different ways of practicing and then there are non worshippers to specific beliefs like Bihari and Lawrence who do their own thing taking the best of the advice out there and making it work for them in their own ways… but main stream no no’s them… Okay my rant is over…. Sorry but I still don’t get this response to the thread at the point it is at. From: LarryGC [mailto:larrygc@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:52 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Revia Just can't crush up a pill and take 3 or 4.5 MG of the powder, you have to measure how much powder you have then take .06 or .09 of whatever you have. If it's 200 MG total, then you'd take 12 MG or 18 MG of the powder per day. I guess making it liquid with 50 ML would match the 50 MG naltrexone, but you'd have 150 or so MG of filler in the mixture too. So that's the difference between getting pure bulk naltrexone powder, and the 50 MG pills which is made with filler already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 That's what I want to know also. I haven't taken many drugs in my day, but I can't recall ever seeing any pill that was pure like that. I guess you'd have to crush up a pill and weigh it. If it's 50 MG, then it's pure naltrexone, but I'm under the impression you'd have like 150-200 MG of powder when you're done. I really don't know, but it's something that came to mind... it's something to take into consideration. I guess I'm going to have to order a 28 count from Mexico and see for myself what ReVia is. ----- Original Message ----- From: pete/lisa low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 16:45 Subject: [low dose naltrexone] ReVia I had a look at the LDN website, and it says there, some pharmacies use naltrexone powder and some crush the 50 mg tabs to make 4.5 mg capsules. When the website editor returns from his holiday I will e-mail him to clarify this. My understanding is the 50 mg tabs are just that... 50 mg tabs. No filler. Any pharmacists out there???? My Dad is taking this for cancer, It is VERY important he gets the proper dose. Thanks in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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