Re: Questions- Cod Liver Oil

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>

> Hello Everyone!

>

> Thank you Bee and Shari for replying to my previous post! I

appreciate your

> help.

>

> I see that I'll just have to start the diet slowly and see how

things go. At this point it is hard for me to imagine how the cooking

is going to work out!

>

> I want to order Cod Liver Oil and I'm still confused after reading

the Cod Liver Oil Folder. Which flavors do you all like from Blue Ice?

>

> Vit A- There isn't enough of it in CLO? So, I need to supplement

with

> Halibut Oil?

>

> And Vitamin D- there are different levels needed during the summer

vs. the winter.

>

> Can someone please clarify this for me? Thanks.

>

==>Hi Collette. Different people like different flavours of cod

liver oil, so it is an individual choice. Some have said they prefer

cinnamon. I take Garden of Life which is lemon flavoured.

Yes you need to take extra vitamin A because 1 teaspoon of Blue Ice

contains 11,500 IU of Vitamin A, and you need a minimum of 20,000 IU

and a maximum of 30,000 IU. So you need 10,000 IU of vitamin A in

addition. Vitamin A (alone, without vitamin D) is found in Halibut

Liver Oil or Shark Live Oil capsules.

No, you do not require different levels of Vitamin D during the

Summer versus Winter. During the Summer, IF you get enough vitamin D

from exposure to the sun, you only need to take fish oil (it contains

omega-3) plus a vitamin A supplement (and not CLO because it contains

omega-3 and vitamins A and D). In order to get enough vitamin D in

the Summer it means you need to expose 85% of your skin to the sun

during specific times during the day as written in my article.

Bee

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By far, the best tasting cod liver oil is Blue Ice Cinammon Tingle!!

To save money, I ordered 6 bottles of Quantam cod liver oil (one of

the 3 recommended brands on westonprice's website). It tastes like

that horrible smell of fish you might find at an ocean pier... but

it's worth it to me to save a little money.

From what I gather, if you do the Blue Ice CLO, you don't need to

supplement with D in the winter. In the summer, if you get a lot of

sun, you don't need to use CLO, you need to switch to fish oil, I

think.

And supplement with halibut or shark liver oil year-round.

Doug

>

> Hello Everyone!

>

> Thank you Bee and Shari for replying to my previous post! I

appreciate your

> help.

>

> I see that I'll just have to start the diet slowly and see how

things go. At this point it is hard for me to imagine how the cooking

is going to work out!

>

> I want to order Cod Liver Oil and I'm still confused after reading

the Cod Liver Oil Folder. Which flavors do you all like from Blue Ice?

>

> Vit A- There isn't enough of it in CLO? So, I need to supplement

with

> Halibut Oil?

>

> And Vitamin D- there are different levels needed during the summer

vs. the winter.

>

> Can someone please clarify this for me? Thanks.

>

> Collette

>

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> From what I gather, if you do the Blue Ice CLO, you don't need to

> supplement with D in the winter. In the summer, if you get a lot of

> sun, you don't need to use CLO, you need to switch to fish oil, I

> think.

Hi Bee, Doug, everyone,

FWIW, I've taken Blue Ice CLO for several years, including in the

summer, plus 1,000IU Vit D supplement in the winter and tried to get

sun in the summer (but don't think I got enough). I have a friend who

has taken Blue Ice CLO for several years (summer & winter) and swims

most every day in the summer & ends up with a nice tan (she doesn't use

sunscreen). She & I both were eating all non-processed foods &

accordign to WAPF.

We both tested severely defiicient for Vit D. She tested in October.

I tested last March. We were both 29 and normal is 50-60. I talked

with Dr. Cowan (of WAPF) and he said he's finding it hard to get Vit D

levels up to " normal " on cod liver oil alone. The Vit D blood test is

25 (OH) D.

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Hmmmmmmmm....... I think I'm going to begin supplementing with the Vit

D I already bought that I was saving! I usually get a lot of sun

in summer, and wasn't planning on supplementing.

Where did you get tested for Vitamin D??? I've never seen that as an

option on regular bloodwork. Thanks!

Doug

I talked

> with Dr. Cowan (of WAPF) and he said he's finding it hard to get Vit

D

> levels up to " normal " on cod liver oil alone. The Vit D blood test

is

> 25 (OH) D.

>

>

>

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... you said you supplemented with the Vitamin D in the winter on

CLO, and you were tested in March and STILL were severely deficient in

D???? Have you been tested since then???

Doug

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Hi Doug, most labs can draw blood for the Vit D test, but don't

perform it in-house. They send it out to reference labs that

perform more specialized tests.

Lora (Lab Tech)

>

>

> Where did you get tested for Vitamin D??? I've never seen that as

an

> option on regular bloodwork. Thanks!

>

> Doug

>

>The Vit D blood test

> is

> > 25 (OH) D.

> >

> >

> >

>

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>

> Hmmmmmmmm....... I think I'm going to begin supplementing with the

Vit

> D I already bought that I was saving! I usually get a lot of sun

> in summer, and wasn't planning on supplementing.

If you supplement, just make certain it's Vit D3 and not D2 which is

harmful.

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>

> > From what I gather, if you do the Blue Ice CLO, you don't need to

> > supplement with D in the winter. In the summer, if you get a lot

of

> > sun, you don't need to use CLO, you need to switch to fish oil, I

> > think.

>

> Hi Bee, Doug, everyone,

> FWIW, I've taken Blue Ice CLO for several years, including in the

> summer, plus 1,000IU Vit D supplement in the winter and tried to

get

> sun in the summer (but don't think I got enough). I have a friend

who

> has taken Blue Ice CLO for several years (summer & winter) and

swims

> most every day in the summer & ends up with a nice tan (she doesn't

use

> sunscreen). She & I both were eating all non-processed foods &

> accordign to WAPF.

>

> We both tested severely defiicient for Vit D. She tested in

October.

> I tested last March. We were both 29 and normal is 50-60. I talked

> with Dr. Cowan (of WAPF) and he said he's finding it hard to get

Vit D

> levels up to " normal " on cod liver oil alone. The Vit D blood test

is

> 25 (OH) D.

==>I believe there are many other nutritional factors that come into

play, particularly vitamin A, vitamin E, and minerals. See the

article " Tripping Lightly Down the Prostaglandin Pathways " by By

G. Enig, PhD and Sally Fallon;

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/tripping.html

Unfortunately it is extremely technical and so you'll need to keep

looking up words. Here's a snippet which gives you an idea; but do

refer to the chart with the 2 pathways too:

" Prostaglandins are a subset of a larger family of substances called

eicosanoids. Other subgroups include thromboxanes, leukotrienes and

lipoxins. Eicosanoids are localized tissue hormones that seem to be

the fundamental regulating molecules in most forms of life. They do

not travel in the blood like hormones, but are created in the cells

to serve as catalysts for a large number of processes including the

movement of calcium and other substances into and out of cells,

dilation and contraction, inhibition and promotion of clotting,

regulation of secretions including digestive juices and hormones, and

control of fertility, cell division and growth. The list of

biological functions involving prostaglandins is limited only by our

ignorance of their effects. As research continues, so will our

knowledge of these fascinating substances expand and grow.

Prostaglandins are produced in the cells by the action of enzymes on

essential fatty acids. There are two prostaglandin pathways, one that

begins with double-unsaturated omega-6 linoleic acid and one that

begins with triple-unsaturated omega-3 alpha-linolenic acid.

(I left out a lot of information here)

Research into prostaglandins holds enormous promise for the treatment

of disease with various drugs that selectively inhibit or stimulate

the production of specific prostaglandins. Such drugs might be

likened to police officers used to direct traffic or called on to

help at the scene of an accident. For most of us, however, the best

way to ensure adequate prostaglandin production along with proper

balance between the various series and their subsets is to follow a

diet that provides precursors to eicosanoid production, and keeps the

pathways free from blocks and potholes, a diet that provides fuel for

our prostaglandin cars and keeps the highways clear.

One of the most common blocks in the prostaglandin chain involves

delta-6 desaturase (D6D), the first sept in the production of

prostaglandins from essential fatty acids. When action of this enzyme

is blocked, so is the entire pathway. This vital enzyme is inhibited

first and foremost by trans fatty acids found in margarine,

shortening and hydrogenated fats.2 These should be avoided at all

costs. In addition, excess omega-6 fatty acids from modern commercial

vegetable oils inhibits the pathway that leads to the Series 3 group.

This is because both pathways begin with desaturation by the same

delta-6 desaturase enzymes. Too much omega-6 in the diet " uses up "

the delta-6 desaturase enzymes needed for the omega-3 pathway.3

The modern diet contains large amounts of omega-6 fatty acids

compared to that of a generation ago, because high omega-6 oils from

soy, corn, cottonseed and safflower have been introduced into the

food supply. They are used to make hydrogenated fats and as a

replacement for traditional fats and oils such as olive oil, butter,

coconut oil, goose fat and lard. The modern diet is also deficient in

omega-3 fatty acids compared to that of a generation ago because

modern farming methods have the effect of increasing the amounts of

omega-6 and oleic acid in vegetables, fruits, fish, eggs, grains and

legumes, while decreasing the amount of valuable triple unsaturated

omega-3. "

Bee

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Yep... I have D3

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By the way everyone....

Did you all know that Vit D2 comes from sugar cane and molasses

and Vit D3 comes from sheeps wool, from the lanolin?

It never ceases to amaze me where our supplements are derived from!

Happy healthy healing!

Debra NW

" Doug " <organyze@...> wrote:

Yep... I have D3